User talk:PetroAntonio

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Bacondrum (talk) 03:48, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose their editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you.


 * Hey mate, welcome to Wikipedia. You need to stop edit warring as per WP:EDITWAR. Your addition to Bruce Pascoe has been reverted a number of times now, this would usually result in a block, but as you are new you should be given a few chances to understand what the issue is and to correct this behavior. Please read up on WP:BRD - You've been bold, your bold edit has been reverted and now you are expected to discuss it at the talk page rather than edit war. Here's the relevant talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bruce_Pascoe. Cheers Bacondrum (talk) 01:14, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Scrap that - You need to declare your https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest and recuse yourself from editing relevant articles including Bruce Pascoe as writing about your own work is not permitted. You cannot promote your own work here. Bacondrum (talk) 01:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Welcome!
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 * Hey . This guy is the author of the book they are writing about Bitter Harvest. As you can see they have been made aware that they are prohibited from adding their own book and editing this article in a conflict of interest. I think this complete lack of ethical understanding, after previously having had the COI issues explained to them, warrants an ANI report for violating COI rules. Bacondrum 11:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, yes, you could be right - but I wanted to ensure that they have the rules set out in front of them clearly and that they understand that good faith has been extended. (See also the DE talk page.) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:12, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I know this for certain, they've both had it brought to their attention in the past, they know they should not be doing this. Bacondrum 11:18, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

COI and defamation
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Bacondrum 11:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021 indefinitely blocked
This is a disruption only account. Jehochman Talk 14:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:.

Is anybody considering this request? PetroAntonio (talk) 04:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC) Full discussion that led to block here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1056#Serious_conflict_of_interest_issues,_blatant_advocacy_and_defamation Bacondrum</b> 00:49, 27 January 2021 (UTC) This is a very telling opinion piece penned by this editor: https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2020/09/something-wiki-this-way-comes/ <b style="color: blue;">Bacon</b><b style="color: Orange;">drum</b> 00:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The "You may request corrections on or suggest content here on the Talk page for independent editors to review" thing applies to editors in good standing, not those who have repeatedly abused their privileges to push their own agenda. Oh, and you made your unblock request logged out, making it invalid. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

"Individuals with a conflict of interest, particularly those representing the subject of the article, are strongly advised not to directly edit the article .... You may request corrections on or suggest content here on the Talk page for independent editors to review..." also applies to editors in good standing, not those who have repeatedly abused their privileges to push their own agenda. Editors are frequently topic banned, formally, from specific subject areas, and I doubt anyone will unblock you without such a ban being either agreed by you or decided by community consensus. Would you like me to ask the community whether you should be subject to a topic ban? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes please PetroAntonio (talk) 20:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm busy with real life right now, but I'll do that shortly (and there's no need to place replies in new unblock requests). Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you PetroAntonio (talk) 20:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Topic ban proposal
Looking carefully at this: and in particular this op-ed PetroAntonio penned in order to attack other editors offwiki (they refer to me as a sub-category of human and a dog eating it's own vomit):
 * I have proposed a topic ban at Administrators%27 noticeboard. If you have any comments you want to add, please post them here and I or someone else will copy them across. Please note that the topic ban would not automatically result in an unblock, and and unblock would still need to be negotiated separately regardless of the topic ban outcome. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:50, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1056#Serious_conflict_of_interest_issues,_blatant_advocacy_and_defamation
 * https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2020/09/something-wiki-this-way-comes/ they should remain indef blocked, their behavior here and offwiki has been totally and utterly appalling. If they are to be merely topic banned then that should be broadly construed to include all topics relating to Aboriginal Australians and the Australian culture wars, at the very least. Though I think their behavior here has been so far beyond the pale that they should remain indef blocked. They've made numerous unblock requests yet they still have not even began to address their problematic behavior, they have not acknowledged it in any meaningful way, instead they are still carrying on about WP:NOTTHEM. <b style="color: blue;">Bacon</b><b style="color: Orange;">drum</b> 21:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You should make your comments at the AN discussion. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Cool, sorry I mistakenly thought this was the appropriate place. thanks . <b style="color: blue;">Bacon</b><b style="color: Orange;">drum</b> 21:57, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * No. When an editor has only shown an interest in topic related to their disruptive editing, a topic ban is not appropriate.  Jehochman Talk 22:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi I've been advised that we should raise objections here: Administrators' noticeboard. Cheers <b style="color: blue;">Bacon</b><b style="color: Orange;">drum</b> 22:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * And, I'm not proposing a topic ban as an alternative to a block, but in addition to it (which would cut off one avenue of appeal). Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Jesus wept, WP:NOTTHEM. This is the fifth unblock request and again it does not address the behavior that got them blocked, in-fact they seem to think they did nothing wrong. I think it's time they were also blocked from their talk page, they've wasted enough of the communities time now, surely? <b style="color: blue;">Bacon</b><b style="color: Orange;">drum</b> 20:26, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Community-imposed topic ban enacted
Hi, PetroAntonio. This is to notify you that, irrespective of the block/unblock matter being considered above, per a community discussion (permanent link), you have been indefinitely topic banned from the subject matter of Bruce Pascoe and Dark Emu, broadly construed. The sanction has been recorded at WP:EDRC. Regards, El_C 18:05, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * If any further evidence is needed


 * https://quadrant.org.au/?s=peter+obrien <b style="color: blue;">Bacon</b><b style="color: Orange;">drum</b> 02:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

What is happening with my unblock request, please?