User talk:Phaedrx/Archive 1

Speedy deletion nomination of Quantonics


A tag has been placed on Quantonics, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an acceptable page. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this page is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit |the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You are welcome to edit the page to fix this problem, but please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. As well as removing promotional phrasing, it helps to add factual encyclopaedic information to the page, and add citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the page will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Phaedrx (talk) 00:20, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Quantonics for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Quantonics is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Quantonics until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 06:38, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Other socks
In addition to the socks listed on the userpage, F09nj-0k and 108.227.134.169 are socks of this user. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Pinkbeast, I was actually trying to get that last one (F09nj-0k) for my list just as it was being clarified to me to stick to one name. And I wasn't sure about listing the IP but now it's all up on my user page. --Phaedrx (talk) 17:04, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You forgot Oifejiojef, and god knows how many more. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks again Pinkbeast, and sorry again for all this from a mistake I had made. I honestly did not know it would be problem let alone a big one and I feel bad about it. All of this has been made clear as to me why it was wrong etc. so it won't be a problem from me- though I understand vandalism and such is an issue here. I am doing my best to make up for that by voluntarily making daily contributions however I can which means editing which I have do professionally for years, and filling out content with valid new pages on subjects with no entries. Eventually, hopefully, this might include stopping other people's socks and vandalism which would be great. --Phaedrx (talk) 17:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * So far since your Damascene conversion your contributions seem to consist of once again editing the page about yourself. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:33, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you have it out for me? I am really trying. I have a sandbox I am working on the page I said I would. This is haarrassment if you go further. I was never as malicious as I perceive you to be right now. I mean I've already shown sincere remorse repeatedly, I already felt bad about it, and you're still questioning that. Please examine your motive and realize your harshness is not neede at this stage. Good new people with a desire to give here, you push them away like that. I have so much energy and desire to give here and you're sucking it dry Pink. Please stop it. There's no more I can do. I refrained from the non-malicious behavior, I am giving and contributing as best I can. If I am new and limited in my skills, you can perhaps offer to be of help, help me learn, or you can simply continue to criticize something I did in the past as you have. Your choice. Will you ever get past this or no. --Phaedrx (talk) 17:40, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Phaedrx, I'm afraid I just missed you on IRC (where I am Rihan) - I was editing something. You need to add the other one Pinkbeast found: Oifejiojef. Are there any others, apart from IPs? Otherwise, carry on editing under this account; creating the new article in the sandbox is good. (Sorry, it's the nature of a wiki - people can see what you have done and do look. Feel free to look at what I've done '-) ) Yngvadottir (talk) 18:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Pinkbeast didn't find it so much as when I was in the IRC with you (Rihan) I tried to grab the oif.. username from the page talk on the article (on me) and it was taken down by pinkbeast which I guess was the job of someone suspecting socking but as I contributed to the socking page the phaedrx axiom of socking - you can't sock if you don't know what it is it would then be something else cuz socking means intent to harm harming without intent is something else bein stupid I guess --Phaedrx (talk) 02:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!
'''Congratulations! You have earned the'''

Thank you for introducing yourself and contributing to Wikipedia! ~ Anastasia (talk) 18:50, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

More about the socking thing by the way I remembered how I acquired the quite innoncent behavior of logging in here with multiple accounts. I was customizing the screen and display settings certain ways, and I'd lose or forget the account and just start a new one, I never once even thought of editing, I was needing to find out about some random place in the world usually.

From the Quantonics Delete talk where I got crushed like 10 to one: I'm fast learnin to shut my mouth more because I have to revalidate everything unclear which includes the stuff you didn't intend. I guess that's every single romantic comedy crisis point ever. Well, phaedrx's quantonics is like edselian but that's my exaggerating it now. It's just a non-encyclopedic virtually unsourceable subject at the moment. I feel better. Thanks to all, as far as the shut my mouth comment I just meant by the way when I was accidentally sockpuppeting my airtight alibi is this: I was in the habit of customizing the appearance of my desktop when I was using this ref as a invaluable tool at work. But never once in my wildest dreams or in any of the more boring ones actually did I ever think when I signed into the Wikipedia I would be doing anything special like editing. I consider this activity a special thing by the way making Wikipedia happen is a real thing, anyway, when I started 'socking' or whatever I was used to making new accounts variations of my name etc, but eventually I just made up new ones quick so I could get in and do what I neede to do in the interest of time at my job. So I forgot all this when I was being attacked by multiple people about multiple things that spun this newbs head. So, the delay ended when I just realized now that I was doing that, signing in to make the screen look how I wanted. Does that also show up in the history?? Does my browsing pages publically affect or effect shanges in my standing in the wikipedia community I have a zillion questions. --Phaedrx (talk) 19:58, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Your page browsing history is 'essentialy' private (or as private as US law allows). A few Wiki adminstrators have the ability to 'unhide' the IPs hidden behind registered user names, specifically in order to detect sockpuppetry, but that abiliy is rarely used and it's use is very carefully audited. Revent (talk) 07:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You can ask some of those questions at the Teahouse :-) But basically: go on doing what you have been doing - i.e., editing only under this one account, drafting the new article, copyediting (we do very much need copyeditors as well!), and anything else constructive that strikes your fancy. But do please add Oifejiojef to the list at User:Phaedrx - and any others that you remember. It is a very large project that has developed not only a lot of rules, but a lot of customs and acronyms; believe me, we all understand it can be confusing. In addition to the teahouse, remember you can ask questions at other people's talk pages. And one further option is to type here on your talkpage, followed by a question; that will summon someone sooner or later. But the Teahouse people are really friendly and helpful. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * A belated happy yesterday to all here UTC wise --Phaedrx (talk) 00:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

update 0446utc20130424
I am enhancing the Wikipedia where I can with sourcing, wording, and the like. (the Robert Pirsig page for example).

I have located additional reliable sources for the disputed Dennis Donaghy page including original video footage on YouTube of at least 3 live performances containing said subject. None of these videos will be found to have copyright issues.

Blue Gelati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0PbQLj5ec&list=PL3A470B9CA42ACF75

throughout, subject is bassist. the youtube account user documents the month and year of the performance. YT acct user was also the singer of the band.

Blanket Statementstein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bF9cy6Zf4s - see from 1:04 (subject is drummer).

White Shabbos
http://www.myspace.com/video/shabasa-records/white-shabbos-the-knitting-factory/4079778

The google screen capture thumbnail has me and my gf at the time, wife now (she's private please). google "white Shabbos" "knitting factory" an early show by the band not sure if SHS album even came out at that point

The vid is not available but I remember seeing it besides actually being in it, the person who uploaded it with the band said this "The old line­up, with Den­nis and ********, at the Knit­ting Fac­to­ry, 2004."

Moving impending "chat' from article talk page
Wow, your talk page has grown. :) You've attracted attention. I'm just saying that because it's surprising, and a good thing. Welcome to Wikipedia!

I hope my butting into the edit warring last night didn't contribute to your frustration. I was trying to be neutral and calm things down, but... well, you remember. Please feel free to add links (social media and such) to your article, and don't get overly stressed about the formatting. I'll keep an eye on the page until you appear done with it, and then Wikify the links (templates and such). Stuff you cite in the text automatically goes into the references, and that's not really appropriate for things like performance videos.

Revent (talk) 06:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Well thanks Revent. Respecting Wikipedia to me also means not worrying about the motives of others sometimes. You guys were sticking up for what you love and I feed off passion like that, that shouldn't change, and what changed is what I think/feel about it. Which is, I owe it not just for permitting the encyclopedia entry given its rocky beginning, but seriously I've read this Encylopedia daily for years and the totally different way of thinking about it was gimme gimme. Now it's like how you guys probably were the whole time I was reading- not gimme gimme but gimme gimme something to do here --Phaedrx (talk) 07:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Dalton Stevens1.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Dalton Stevens1.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:42, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you the same person as User:108.227.134.169
Are you the same person as User talk:108.227.134.169? This edit suggests that you and he/she are the same person.--Toddy1 (talk) 07:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is, as listed on my user page that IP/username. I was informed as to the 'sockpuppeting' people do and why it's not allowed so of course now that is a dead account. I also did Button King, cleaned up Al Cisneros and Dirt Bike Annie among other pages and I have a few more to research and post is there an issue with my contributions here? Am I being 'investigated' again? --Phaedrx (talk) 15:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks--Toddy1 (talk) 21:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

By the way, the first article I wrote for Wikipedia was speedy deleted.--Toddy1 (talk) 13:24, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * FACT Claim or what . kidding this is a _____ experience. fro ma form-a mad-libber. Anyway BUTTON KING plays the banjee I forgot. gotta go --Phaedrx (talk) 17:23, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Dennis Donaghy article
Removal of flags added by another editor without discussion isn't really appropriate. The article /does/ need copy-editing, and the statement that it is currently largely autobiographical is correct. Similarly, the article is currently improperly categorized, for the reasons I mentioned, and the 'jewish' comment was merely a question as to if the article belonged in that category. It would have been appropriate to edit the template to remove it for the reason you stated, but not to delete the entire flag. After noticing that you are again working on the article, I'm going to stop touching it for now to avoid edit conflicts, however, the flags I placed on the article belong there. Revent (talk) 20:35, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No go ahead, just got out of a chat where I was and now not confused anymore. I wasn't sure what was happening and why the tag was there, I thought it got automatically applied or something because I was editing it to cut it down when my computer crashed and when I got back on the tag was there. The two pages refered to in the tag aren't really that well suited to compare to as far as a subject. They didn't play in several bands on several instruments, getting notable that way, nor did they write, record, and perform on all instruments over 30 rock songs as an outsider. --Phaedrx (talk) 21:06, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I was merely using them as pointers to the 'style' of an article re verbosity, etc, mostly as an indication to you. Revent (talk) 21:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I've had the same idea exactly since early today, but I wanted to work on other articles (Sound of Urchin) for a little while before peeping over here. What you and my wife both said, I agree, yeah it was too long, too essay-like and the tone is not encylopedic enough. The tags I'd probably put right now if not, and certainly on yesterday's version, would be

--Phaedrx (talk) 21:24, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

You are correct, and I did not take the time to dig out the 'specific' templates, and just added the generic flag, mostly as an attempt to do it quickly and avoid edit conflicts. Revent (talk) 22:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Button King
Nice job! :) Revent (talk) 06:11, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Poke. :)
Don't bother alphabetizing categories.....there's a bot that does it. :) Revent (talk) 07:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I saw your msg earlier as well, did my first ever collapsible sortable table. That wasn't bad at all I like wiki markup better in some ways than html --Phaedrx (talk) 07:27, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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