User talk:Phantomsteve/Archives/2009/November

References for Singapore International Energy Week
Dear PhantomSteve,

I am writing in response to the notibility alert on Singapore International Energy Week's article. My colleague Tanya corresponded with you previously on this article.

There are a few references for your consideration that could be added to the list.

"MM Lee says ASEAN can cooperate to have common grid and pipeline". Channel News Asia. 4 November 2008. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/387629/1/.html

"Lee Kuan Yew ponders nuclear energy option". The Malaysian Insider. 5 November 2008. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/business/11808-lee-kuan-yew-ponders-nuclear-energy-option

"Spotlight on Singapore: Building an EV economy". Cleantech magazine. Sept/Oct 2009. http://www.cleantechinvestor.com/portal/spotlight/2930-spotlight-on-singapore-building-an-ev-economy.html

Aaron Yeo SIWW (talk) 10:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Aaron Yeo SIWW
 * Thanks for those, Aaron. I have added those to the relevant sections of the article. Hopefully, when this year's SIEW takes place, you will get lots of mentions in reliable sources which can be added to the article. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 12:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt response and well wishes PhantomSteve!

Could you also advise me on what else I could provide to improve the notability of the article?

Many thanks Aaron Yeo SIWW (talk) 12:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Aaron, the main reason for the doubt on the notability is that it's a new event! It only started last year, and this is the second occurance. However, as it stands, there is sufficient information that I have removed the "notability" tag - although this would not prevent another editor re-adding it should they feel it was necessary.
 * Basically, coverage of this year's event in reliable sources would help to show its notability, as will confirmation that the event will be held next year (also from reliable sources). --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 13:37, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning up of Editor Review
I also recently filed a request to be reviewed, but the project seems to be falling apart. So... I guess I'll go ahead and cleanup the project now before it gets even worse? (I have had previous experience cleaning up dying projects WP:ABUSE) It would be great to someone to work with, are you interested? Netalarm talk  23:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I think I might be able to do this pretty fast, so please tell me what you think of it (feel free to help out =D) Netalarm talk  23:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm going away for a week, so can't do anything for the next week (I've just quickly logged into Wikipedia to check messages, I might get a chance to tonight or in the morning, but if not this will be it until 2nd Nov!). When I get back, I intend on looking at some of the backlog that remains and doing some reviews. The thing with the reviews is that many editors do not know about it, and I think that most of the editors who do tend to be busy on Wikipedia! As I say, I'll do some reviews after my holidays. Once an editor has had 1 review, it will automatically be archived 30 days later, so if reviews get done then they will be archived within a month! However, I have removed aserisks from editors with a review - the ones I left were when the comments seemed like criticisms about one action rather than a review of overall actions. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 06:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've started working on reviews - I'll try to get more done during the week! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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From Aaron Yeo
Many thanks! I will be sure to keep you posted with new material for the references. Aaron Yeo SIWW (talk) 06:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

From Ruger24
I am sorry mate, truly. But the change I made was correct. And I understand that he may have assumed that I was vandalizing some more but I wasn't. He should get his facts straight. The reason I edited his page is because I don't know how to send a proper message. If possible, could you tell me how to in return for me promising not to vandalize anymore? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruger24 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You send a message by editing his page, but you should not use abusive language. Your 2 edits on the The Hutchins School article were vandalism, as were your edits on the The Friends' School, Hobart and Special Forces (United States Army) articles. Your first edit on Utility Monster's page was vandalism, and your final edit there was a personal attack. With the exception of your edit to this page, none of your edits were constructive. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 01:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

From 67.121.145.89
Can you please stop editing the User:Yavari Govain page. It's not your page, it's in fact mine. Can you please stop? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.121.145.89 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If that is indeed the case, I suggest that you sign in and then no one will revert any changes you make. As a rule, if this kind of thing is removed by another editor, it is generally assumed to be vandalism. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 01:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback from Tyw7 (04 November 2009)
You have messages on my talk page! --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 01:58, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And thanks for the review. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 02:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
For this bit of tidying up. I haven't seen your sig much while working recent changes. Maybe we're on drastically different time zones. Anyway, it's good to see you lurking about watching over things. Keep up the good work  Tide  rolls  02:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome! I did a big of Huggle-ing - I'm not quite tired enough to go to sleep yet! Normally I would be fast asleep a few hours ago. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 02:24, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Xeno's talk page
I undid your edit where you removed the block quote. It was working and there was a closing half to it. I also meant for the heading to be "===" because, at the time, I wasn't sure if it would mess up the archive bot. If you're sure it won't though, I'll leave it be. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 12:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, regarding the others being notified, I was planning to do that after I'd sorted out whatever's gone wrong. Thanks, though. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 12:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries. With regard to the archive bot, it looks at the last date stamp, not the level of heading. In Xeno's case, if the last date stamp in a conversation is more than 2 days old, it gets archived. Xeno has deliberately made the first entry with a date far into the future so that that thread doesn't get archived.
 * With regard to notifying others, I noticed that they hadn't been done, and assumed that you had been distracted by Real life! Hope you don't feel I was treading on your toes! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 12:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's no problem, I appreciated it. As for the level of heading, wouldn't that count as leaving two separate threads, one of which is unsigned? With my own experience of unsigned comments, it doesn't get archived. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 12:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, you might be right there! Feel free to put it back to how it was before I stuck my oar in! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 12:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * BlazerKnight already did. Don't worry, I can understand what you were trying to do. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 12:20, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

&larr; Thanks for the closure and the semi-support, saying you at least understood what I meant to do. I had the feeling that I'd just made a spectacular fool of myself... I do that so often it wouldn't surprise me if I had. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 15:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If I had a (insert unit of money here) for every time I'd done something foolish, I'd not need to work ever again! If no one had done something on the Project in a year or so, then it could be counted as dead - but as others said, there's plenty of reason to keep it! Anyway, at the end of the day, no harm no foul. It's experience if nothing else (for me, it was only the second time I've done a closure - and I forgot to subst the template!) --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks anyway. -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 16:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks a lot for the editor review.. Cheers.. :D --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome! If you want to try doing a review on another editor (especially one with a star next to their name, as they have no reviews yet) that'd be good (and help with the backlog), but if not - I hope my comments were helpful. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll try and do one, if I get time this week.. And thanks a lot. I thought I was a really really bad editor.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * No more than most of us! I have seen some editors on here that I think are not too good (and I don't just mean the vandals) - but your contributions seem to be constructive to the encyclopedia, so you have my support! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Psssst
Between you and me, I don't think the IP is "new": surreptitious edits claiming them to be "sourced" that are completely different than the source says, running to ANI and then Jimbo ... that's someone who's been around as they seem to know how to do things. I will WP:AGF though. (<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  BWilkins  <font style="font-variant:small-caps">←track ) 11:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have my suspicions too, with the ANI and Jimbo - but like you I gave the benefit of the doubt as per WP:AGF. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for giving me a review, and yes, I haven't been editing because of school. :( Parker1297 (contribs, talk) 23:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. As you weren't signed in, your IP address was left instead of your user name. I have altered that - do you want the IP address removed from the page's history, so other editors cannot associate the IP with your user name? If so, let me know and I will contact an Oversighter who can get it removed so that not even admins can see it. If you are OK with it staying in the history, let me know that too! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 23:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Test of signature css
If this works, my signature should be here! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 02:08, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

newbie and editing
Hi, Im new to wikipedia and am interested in editing a sentence in an existing article. I had a go at the sandbox, though doesn't help much. When I went to edit the page, a blank box appeared which scared me from doing anything, as i wasn't sure if i would wipe out the original article??? I assumed that editing would have brought up the original article and i would edit/replace the sentence in question with the correct information. btw i don't know what a talk page means though it feels as if i have read pages and pages of info re editing and guidelines, i hope this makes sense and i sign off properly, kind regards julietteJuliette Rose (talk) 13:27, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If you are on the article page, you can click on edit at the top of the page, which will come up with an editing box like the one you used to put the message on my page. On an article, it will show the current text and markup (those are things that look like blah and.
 * If you tell me what article you were trying to edit, I can give a bit more specific advice!
 * With regard to talk pages - these are pages where people can discuss things. Each article can have one (if one doesn't exist, the discussion tab will be red. If you click on this, you will get an empty box similar to what you described - that just means that there is nothing on the page, and anything that you add is new! Users have one (like this one) - your one is (at the moment) showing as a red link, as yours hasn't been created yet. I am about to add a welcome message with useful links on your one, so it will no longer show a red link, but a blue one - one of the links there is "how to edit", which might be useful to read!
 * Please feel free to contact me with any other questions. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 13:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, if you're worried you'll mess things up, use the edit summary to make it clear you're not sure about what your doing (preventing accusations of vandalism) and then go to the history page and check the article diffs. If you've truly messed something up, the original article is only a click of the undo button away. -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 13:59, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank-you Steve.
Just a note to say thanks for the time you've put into keeping me focused on Wikipedia ideals and on developing some of the articles I started. Kernel.package (talk) 00:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You're too kind! If I recall, our common articles were Wabigama and some of the fouding members! I remember we had a disagreement about the notability of the club! However, I rmember helping find information about a couple of the founders (and I'm glad that those article are still present!). As I said at the time, I don't aim to get articles deleted - if reliable sources (even if it's just a couple of them!) are all I look for - and I quite enjoy finding them. As I said before, if you ever have any questions, please feel free to contact me - I'll do my best to help out, or direct you to where people more knowledgeable than me can be found! Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry
hi i didnt do dat wrong revisions in Kanpur article. thnx for undo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urprakhar (talk • contribs) 08:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment! I know that it wasn't you - it was a vandal. I sometimes do "vandal patrol", and the page is one which came up! Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

newbie and editing :)
Thank you for answering so quickly, I will give it a go now, hopefully i did it correctly. cheers Juliette Rose (talk) 08:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome! One of the things I like doing on Wikipedia is giving advice and help - I hope you got sorted OK! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:37, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking at your contributions, I see that you managed to get your edit to work on the Karen Kay (TV personality) article - well done! If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask! Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

75.141.100.115 user talk page will be deleted.
That user talk page will be deleted because there is no longer a user in the future. I will have to put Strike-through text on the user talk page called 75.141.100.115. 12.239.22.131 (talk) 05:58, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: both of these IPs (12.239.22.131 (talk) and 75.141.100.115 (talk)) are blocked for 1 month, with their user pages blanked. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

IRC Cloaking Request
My nick is Phantomsteve (no surprise there, eh?)! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:39, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Moving an article
Hello Phantomsteve. Very clear they were! Lumenlitt (talk) 23:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

completing my note
Phatntomsteve. Its getting late here and mistakes happen. I meant to thank you for your instructions which helped a lot. Lumenlitt (talk) 23:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries! I'm glad I could help! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 23:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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William A. Dembski article
Please refer to the talk page of the specified article and look to the second half, where most complaints as to the biased nature in which the article was created and is kept are stored. Some are years old. I do not appreciate being directed to an opinion grave. I have read the criteria for speedy deletion, as I also have WP:NOTPERFECT. WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 08:14, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * At least 3 admins do not believe that this is an attack page. Although admins are not perfect, that does not mean that they are always wrong!
 * Yes, some of the discussion points on the article's page are up to 2-1/2 years old. However, many of those points appear to have been addressed. Again, I highly recommend that you leave a message on the talk page giving specifics about why you feel that this article is an attack page. What exactly do you feel is inaccurate? Can you provide reliable sources showing this to be the case? If you re-insert a speedy deletion tag, you are running the risk of being blocked - you have been made aware that you should not do this, and your replies indicate that you have seen the messages about this.
 * Again, I strongly suggest that you discuss this on the article's talk page. It is very rare that an article that is this old (more than 6 years old) requires deleting in its entirety - it is certainly possible that specific words/sentences/sections might need removing or improving. However, this is a discussion for the talk page of the article, rather than unilateral action.
 * You said that you have read the criteria for speedy deletion - I do not see where in the article it disparages or threatens Dembski, which are the words used in the Speedy Deletion policy. However, for a speedy deletion to be required, all (or the vast majority of) the article needs to be disparaging or threatening Dembski. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Would you like me to quote for you the alleged bias? By the way of your comments, you seem to have not noticed that I had already posted comments to the aforementioned talk page. Also, I knew the risk of posting all that I did. I will take such risks if warranted. WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 08:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I did see your 2 comments on the talk page (left just over 2 hours ago) - and to be honest, I do not know enough about this subject to comment on it - and I have no desire to use the limited time I have available at the moment to look into it. I would suggest that you leave more than a couple of hours for people to comment! As the editors on Wikipedia are from all over the world, I would leave it at least 24 hours before deciding that no one is paying attention. Also, I noticed that in the "Perakh quote/piecemeal treatment of writings" section, you did get a reply (from dave souza), who indicated that your opinion was against that shown in reliable third-party sources. I would again suggest that you take this up on the talk page - respond to dave souze (I realise that their reply was only made about 20 mins ago, so you may not have seen it yet); wait for a response to your comment at the "Peer review, Nature, and UD" section. As I say, I do not know this subject well enough to be able to comment, and as I have to go out soon, I do not have time (or if I'm honest, the inclination) to look into this in the detail which would be required.
 * However I do know that there is no reason to delete the entire article! As I have previously said, if there are specific sections that can be improved, that is one thing - wholesale deletion is not a viable option, I would venture to suggest!
 * Continue to discuss it, allow people the chance to respond - and go from there. As this is an article about an American, I would expect that most of the editors with the relevant knowledge will be in America - and as it is the early hours of the morning over there, they are unlikely to have seen your comments yet!
 * As far as I am concerned, I have said everything that I am going to say about this article. However, if you have any other questions (about editing other articles, Wikipedia's policies, etc), please feel free to contact me again. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 09:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am in Hartford, Connecticut, the United States of America. I have read every article that you have prompted me to read, incidentally, before you did prompt such. Also, there has been discussion concerning exactly what I am concerned about. The article has already been put for speedy deletion by other contributors. The speedy deletion flag was put down by other contributors. The article is consistantly biased and only speaks of controversy regarding the man's beliefs and prose. If that is not bias in your opinion, then I need to, ironically, provoke you with WP:NOTPERFECT. I am not speaking to the innaccuracy of the article. I am speaking to the bias of the sources, the obviously absurd unreliability of the sources, and the consistancy of the article it self. The article is about the man, not about how his life's work is controversial to groups of peoples. A section regarding a study or book of his should not only be concerning it's opposition. By ignoring these bias, you are very much WP:NOTPERFECT. WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 09:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am also very much not an admin! I am not ignoring bias - I do not know anything about this person, his life or his work. To be able to comment in a reasoned way, I would need to spend time looking into it - and to be honest, I have more important things (to me) to do, than spend hours looking into this subject. My advice to you would be to address (on the talk page) the specific sources. Explain why you consider them to be biased, something along the lines of "The book Fred Blogs by John Smith is biased/unreliable because...", "The article Am I Biased? written by Mark Jones in the September 2009 issue of "Issues in Bias Monthly" shows bias/is unreliable because...". Please note that I am not being flippant here! If you can provide specific examples with reliable, independent sources backing up your arguments, then you are more likely to get reasoned responses - people can respond to specific allegations of bias. Use reliable sources to back up your contentions of bias/unreliability - can you find independent sources to back up what you are saying?
 * As to whether the focus of the article is correct or not, I would leave that to people with more knowledge on the subject - which may or may not include you, I don't know! All I do know is that I am not one of those people! My gut instinct is that showing that a person is considered controversial by other people is a valid part of an article about a person. Sometimes it is in a specific "critical response" or "criticisms" section, sometimes it is not - but the mention of any controversy is part of a balanced coverage, I would have thought. If some people feel (and there are independent, reliable sources) that there are criticisms to be made, these should be mentioned in the article.
 * If you have any questions on other articles, please feel free to leave them! I will not comment any further on this particular article, as I think I have made my position quite clear - please do not take it as rudeness on my part! However, any other articles you want to discuss, or advice about editing, I am quite happy to respond to. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 09:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Over seventy and five percent of the one hundred and twenty-one cited sources are in direct opposition to the man, including those that are used for the early history of his career. I have already made two simple edits in the first two paragraphs, removing blatant bias. That is to ignore the fact that many of those sources are biased by nature. WP:VALID mandates that there must be equal weight given to both sides of any arguement, those sources cited must be credible, there must be sources cited, etc.. I did not give specific examples before. You do ask why? There are so many! The whole article is biased. You are responding under the assumption that the administrators were justified by their flippant decisions regarding my speedy deletion flag. I really believe that the issue is that they themselves are biased, they are flippant, they are ignorant, they are lazy, and they are too scared to consider serious deletion or major deletion of such an old article!WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 10:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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Oops!
Sorry; I was trying to notify a spammer and hit the wrong link. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * My bad - I should have SUBST'd my template, as it uses headings! I've corrected the template so that if I don't SUBST it, there's an error. Otherwise, if some clicks on edit, it edits the template, not the user page! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your recent RfA
Note: Sebwite copied this from their talk page.

I just wanted to let you know that although I opposed your RfA at this time, this does not mean that I think you should forget about it forever!

Although I was concerned over your answers to two of the questions (as I said in my oppose) please take this as a learning experience. I see no reason why you should not become an admin the the future - I just believe that at the moment you are not quite ready for it!

Keep up the excellent work on Wikipedia. Hopefully you will consider re-applying for adminship in the future. During the time until you do, read up on the policies about deletion and about alternate accounts!

Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I do indeed plan to try again in the near future. I am not jumping into immediately; first comes the post-mortem. In any case, I never expected to get it on my first try. Had I gotten it, I would have been really shocked. Sebwite (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

COPY RIGHT
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/d-find-number?csbdesign=3017175

THIS IS NOT VANDALISM THIS IS MY Intellectual property RIGHT THIS BADGE IS COPYRIGHT IP UK Patent Office Reg No 3017175

THIS IS NOT MOD OR CROWN THIS IS MINE YOU WANT TO MAKE HISTORY

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/d-find-number?csbdesign=3017175

THIS IS NOT VANDALISM THIS IS MY Intellectual property RIGHT THIS BADGE IS COPYRIGHT IP UK Patent Office Reg No 3017175

THIS IS NOT MOD OR CROWN THIS IS MINE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.71.232 (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

You may be interested in this RFC/U
As you were involved in the earlier discussions and commented in most of them, you might be interested to know of Requests for comment/Dbachmann 4. I'm letting all of the major participants in the discussions know, regardless of position.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Copyright and Fair Use - more
Incidently, I should point out that the SBS logo (as are all armed forces logos) is British Crown Copyright - the copyright is legally owned by HMSO and the MoD on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen. If you belong to one of these two organisations, then you need to follow the "Owner" advice I gave you above - if you are the designed of the logo, then you will know that you released the design to Crown Copyright. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC

Incidently this is my copy right so unless you want to have the cost of compensation sent you you as well keep out off this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.71.232 (talk) 21:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am copying the guidelines I referred to on your talk page below.


 * <p style="font-size:130%">Are you the copyright owner?


 * * If you are the copyright owner or represent the copyright owner, we can assist you best via e-mail. You may contact us at [mailto:info-en-c@wikimedia.org info-en-c@wikimedia.org] with an informal request.  Please cite the exact URL (the "address" or "Location" of the page as shown by your web browser, as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ), and provide enough information to substantiate your claim of copyright ownership.  Correspondence is answered by a small team of volunteers.


 * I trust that this will enable you to sort out removing the images. On a personal note, I must say that I am disappointed that you are so against Wikipedia using the image, as it illustrates the SBS article beautiful (after all, it is a beautiful design).
 * I am choosing not to construe your last message as a legal threat - if it is indeed a legal threat, then I will need to report it to the administrators of Wikipedia, who will have to block your IP pending resolution of the situation. I realise that you are angry, and so I am assuming that you are merely lashing out at an editor who is trying to explain the situation on Wikipedia, and why we feel that the image can be used under "Fair Use" guidelines.
 * I trust that the WikiMedia Foundation will be able to resolve this to your satisfaction (please do contact them, as above). Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Two other points come to mind - I am not a legal expert, but others who are may know the answers to these:
 * 1) You may be recognised as being the "Intellectual Property Owner" - but I am not sure if that is the same as the copyright owner? I was under the impression that the IPO was recognised as having made the design (the "intellectual" bit), but that this was not necessarily the same as the copyright owner. For example, an author is recognised as the IPO of their written work, but the copyright owner is usually the publisher.
 * 2) The design in your IPO and the design in the article, while similar, show differences. The one the IPO refers too appears to be the original SBS design - whereas the one we have in our article is the current, slightly modified design. Again, I don't know the legalities of this.
 * I will be referring this to the Administrators' Noticeboard for Incidents for further advice. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Does that previous comment from the IP count as Wikilaywering? -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 21:41, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

y is it so hard to get this sorted this is my copy right not crown thank you for your help so far

86.157.71.232 (talk) 23:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)deltaopp
 * I'm discussing with the user. -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 23:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Thejadefalcon. As you may see, I've also left another message for the user, with further advice about what we need proof of in order to be able remove the logo. Hopefully, they will follow the advice. I am also leaving a message on your talk page with regard to this. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Copyright and fair use stuff

 * Is this needed anyway, or do you have my page on your watchlist? -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 14:44, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

non-admin closure
It's something I've never dared attempt myself (moving a tag from mainspace to a talkpage is about the closest I get to taking on administrative tasks). --Paularblaster (talk) 17:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've only done it three times! It's not something that should be done very often - basically only when the nomination is withdrawn and there are no "delete" or "redirect/merge" votes (see the guideline Deletion_process and the essay Non-admin closure). --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Great job!

 * Thank you! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Messages from humans to User:Jj102786
Hi there! Just wanted to thank you for your message on this user's talk page, I think it was very helpful. I hope you didn't think I was having a go at you for leaving the templates, they do serve a function. It's just new users talk pages can get overwhelmed and then they never come back. Cheers Ged  UK  12:59, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It's a fine line between sticking to the guidelines for user pages/articles and WP:BITE! Hopefully they will follow my advice - in which case I will withdraw my nomination. However, I think that whatever happens, the other page (the one which would take me all year to type in) should be deleted, as it is a duplicate of the main user page, and the title is too long! Anyway, thanks for contacting me! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 13:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I totally agree about the second page, only because it's a copy of the first. I'll keep my eye on all three, and see where we go. Ged  UK  14:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Singapore International Energy Week references
Dear Phantomsteve,

Good news, the Singapore International Energy Week started this week with international energy expert Daniel Yergin addressing the audience at the Singapore Energy Lecture. Several media have reported on this. Would we be able to share the reports below as references for the Singapore International Energy Week article?

Jennifer Tan, (16 November 2009). "Oil reflects dollar moves, not market dynamics: Yergin". Reuters. http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Oil/idUSTRE5AF1JQ20091116

Rachel Kelly, (16 November 2009). "Demand for natural gas set to continue". Channel NewsAsia (Mediacorp). http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/marketnews/view/1018603/1/.html

John Richardson, (15 November 2009). "Technological innovation key to sustained oil supply - Yergin". ICIS. http://www.icis.com/Articles/2009/11/16/9263894/technological-innovation-key-to-sustained-oil-supply-yergin.html

(16 November 2009). "SIEW 2009: Singapore Energy Lecture by Dr Daniel Yergin". Green Business Times. http://www.greenbusinesstimes.com/2009/11/16/siew-2009-singapore-energy-lecture-by-dr-daniel-yergin/

(17 November 2009). "Alternative energy on the agenda in Singapore". Irish Sun. http://story.irishsun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/3a8a80d6f705f8cc/id/566219/cs/1/

Thanks! Regards, Aaron Yeo (Singapore) (talk) 06:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Aaron here is what I think of the above:
 * Reuters: This does not mention the SIEW, so cannot be used (it says "Yergin told reporters on the sidelines of a conference.", without saying which conference)
 * Channel NewsAsia: Looks good - I will incorporate this
 * ICIS: Looks good
 * Green Business Times: Looks good
 * Irish Sun: Looks good.
 * I will look at those four later today, and add to the article. Thanks for pointing them out to me - as further news reports are available, list them here, and I will check them and add information as necessary. If you think that I have neglected something from an article, let me know! I can then either add it to the article, or explain why I feel that it shouldn't be there!
 * Regards, and thanks for your work - and for asking me here, rather than just adding it yourself! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 09:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know - I've not forgotten this! I will be dealing with it before I sign off for the night! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:20, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: I'm now going to do it in the morning - I'm tired, it's time for bed! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 00:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

ACC
Hi there, I'm sorry I stole your reserved request...I got a bit excited about handling my first request. Looking back though that may have been a mistake...-- SKATER  Speak. 15:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, Skater. No worries - just remember that the ACC tool only shows if a user has refreshed the screen or clicked on a tab or something in the last 5 mins. When I am looking at a request, I tend to take a while - clicking the links opens new windows, as you know, so it doesn't refresh to show that you are working on it!
 * Also, if an editor has to go to the toilet, get a coffee, etc - they may be away for more than the 5 mins! In general, if it is marked as "handled" do not touch it - if the time stamp is like 50-60 mins ago or more, it might be worth asking on the IRC channel about it.
 * Anyway, everyone has to learn! Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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Barnstar from Ilyushka88

 * Thank you - that is both unexpected, and very nice of you! Thank you for the help you do on the IRC channel too. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for your comment at Articles for deletion/Kim Chestney. As you said, I did search, because I'm really an inclusionist at heart--though obviously one who should be kinder to his fellow man. Drmies (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I thought their comment was unfair. If they'd singled you out, and you had not looked up sources - or if it had been a rant against all of us who had !voted "delete" - it would have been different. I hope that I didn't sound rude - it was about my fourth draft of my comment, before I finally "save"d it! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 22:00, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Singapore International Energy Week references
Thanks Phantomsteve. Looking forward to the additions. I will also compile fresh updates which mention SIEW for your consideration. Cheers,Aaron Yeo (Singapore) (talk) 05:23, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have added the information from the 4 sources. As you get more sources about this years' events, they can be added. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 10:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your soothing answer on "Quinceanera (film)"
I just happen to find it : I had "turned the page" as we say in french. Truly, I think my text can be of some use for those interested in chicano culture & that Shiver of recognition is just a ... T.y.  Arapaima (talk) 09:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Although I have had correspondence with Arapaima in August, it wasn't on the Quinceanera (film) talk page (it was via a query on the Help Desk) - and the last message I got from them was "Thanks again & farewell.I comute to WProject Germany Arapaima (talk) 06:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)". I think they are referring to this edit at 20:03, 26 August 2009 which you made! I have also removed the "red-linked..." name-calling, as I don't think that should be here, as it could be construed as a personal attack! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:30, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Account Creation
Just so you know, I created the account that you were handling since you were no longer on the site. Sorry for any inconvenience that might have developed because of this. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 18:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just so that you know, the site only shows whether I opened the request within the last 5 minutes. I take my time to evaluate it (especially at the moment when I've got a slower connection than usual) - but as a rule, if it's marked as being "handled", please do not take over. As you will know, when you click on the links for block lists, etc, it opens a new window. This means that you haven't refreshed the page, and if the checks take longer than 5 mins, it will show you as not being on the site. This does not mean that the editor isn't doing anything! In future, leave it, and assume it is being handled - if it has not been closed within 45-60 mins, that'd be different - but I'd been handling it for 10 mins, and had almost finished checking (I had to do the "List" and the "Google" checks first, and then I was going to create it. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 18:08, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Amazing...
I never heard that there was more than one character for the ó with an acute accent!!! :) --Againme (talk) 20:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I was vaguely aware of it, but haven't really come across it! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Bravo
The whole episode has given me my first episode of wikistress and it's been very heartening to see your exemplary civil, considered, and calm handling of the situation. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:46, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind Award :D
 * I try not to get too stressed out here - after all, no one on here knows me in real life (I'm not aware of any friends or family who are editors) and I don't know them. At the end of the day, Wikipedia isn't the most important thing in my life - my partner and kids are.
 * I also try to be civil and reasonable as much as possible. I have left a message on the creator's page with advice - hopefully they will pay attention to it when their block is up. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me,  My Contribs ) 13:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

contacting OTRS on my behalf - cheers
Hi Phantomsteve,we chatted through live chat last week whereby you said write to you here. reminder of conversation: modbot had picked up on the fact that i had used word for word text from this sites page: http://www.goldstarpr.com/artistsDetails.php?gid=293 The wording/text in question was provided by me to the website (its the main article text below the large photo - this is what i want to use on my wiki page) you said i should ask you to contact OTRS on my behalf re this - im greatful for your help. one last question - id like to use a photo for this wiki page,for which im the copyright holder,i dont want to use a creative commons license for this as i dont want the potential for the photo to be adapte.How do i go about this so it can be cleared to go up on the wiki page? thanks. i will need a talkback as to notify me you have replied to this message,regards,Nick0Name —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick0Name (talk • contribs) 15:22, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have access to an e-mail account at the domain (i.e. something@goldstarpr.com)? If so, don't tell me what it is here (although a user page, it is still very visible!) - just basically say yes or no! Once I have that answer, I can advise you further!
 * With regard to the licensing - unfortunately, whether the picture goes on Commons or Wikipedia, the licensing that we require the image released under means that you can't prevent people from "adapting" the photo! I see from the IRC chat (I wasn't monitoring it at the time, being busy with other stuff) that this was discussed with you by AJCham.
 * Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 18:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Lee RFC
Where do I give my side of the story? --Malkinann (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just go to the talk page, and add a comment in the RfC section. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ta, I've said my piece. Hope my formatting's ok.  --Malkinann (talk) 10:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me, Malkinann. Thank you for contributing to the discussion! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 15:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

German Article
hi folks, I'm writing to see if you can allso add my write up story on me in the English Free Encyclopedia Section Home Page, as I am in your Deutsch home Page, and would love to have as well in English Section of the Encyclopedia. Sorry but I have pasted it, I hope its ok, as I just wanted you to see that it is there, Thanking you in advance, Wayne Cogswell —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wayne cogswell (talk • contribs) 19:44, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Article Wayne Cogswell aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie Wechseln zu: Navigation, Suche Wayne Cogswell (* 12. September 1937) ist ein US-amerikanischer Rockabilly- und Rock-’n’-Roll-Musiker sowie Songschreiber. Cogswell schrieb Ende der 1950er- und Anfang der 1960er-Jahre Hits für Stars wie Chet Atkins, Skeeter Davis und Floyd Cramer.

Leben [Bearbeiten] 1954 zog Wayne Cogswell, der damals bereits verheiratet war und fünf Kinder hatte, nach Memphis, Tennessee, auf der Suche nach Jobs als Musiker. Zwischenzeitlich hatte er den Bühnennamen „Wayne Powers“ angenommen. In Memphis arbeitete Cogswell zunächst als Verkäufer von Unterdruckreinigern und traf im selben Jahr noch Ray Harris, der gerade auf der Suche nach einem Gitarristen war. Cogswell schloss sich Harris‘ Band an und in den nächsten vier Jahren spielten die beiden zusammen. Mit Harris nahm Cogswell bei Sun Records in Memphis auf und war Co-Autor mehrerer Songs von Harris (Come On Little Mama, Where’d You Stay Last Nite, Foolish Heart).

Als Ray Harris Sun 1958 verließ und das Label Hi Records gründete, blieb Cogswell bei Sun. Er bekam nun die Gelegenheit, selbst für Sun ein paar Songs einzuspielen, von denen My Love Song und Point of View unter seinem Künstlernamen „Wayne Powers“ bei Suns Sublabel Phillips International veröffentlicht wurden. Es sollten jedoch seine einzigen Aufnahmen für Sun bleiben. Stattdessen arbeitete Cogswell für Sun als Studiomusiker und neben Jack Clement und Bill Justis als weitere „rechte Hand“ für Sam Phillips, den Besitzer des Labels. Zu seinen erwähnenswerten Arbeiten zählt die Betreuung von Mikki Milans Session, während der Milan Somehow Without You einspielte.

Anfang der 1960er-Jahre begann Cogswell sich mehr auf das Schreiben von Songs zu konzentrieren. Für Chet Atkins schrieb er die Hits Teensville, The Slop und Rainbows End sowie Skeeter Davis‘ Someday Someday. 1964 hatte Cogswell in kommerzieller Hinsicht seinen größten Erfolg. Al Hirt machte den mit Ray Peterson geschriebenen Song Night Theme zu einem Hit, der auch von vielen anderen Künstlern gecovert wurde. Cogswell nahm den Song selbst auch mit Peterson unter dem Pseudonym The Mark Two auf seinem eigenen Label WYE Records und 1967 bei Roulette Records auf. Er komponierte Songs auch als Wayne Powers und als Winston Cogswill.

In der Gegenwart tritt Cogswell immer noch auf.

Diskographie [Bearbeiten] Jahr Titel Label # 1958 My Love Song / Point of View Phillips Int. 3523 196? Night Theme / Confusion WYE 5-1001 1967 Night Theme / Confusion Roulette 4784 Unveröffentlichte Titel What Will I Do Sun Records

Weblinks [Bearbeiten
 * (multiple) If you want to do this, you need to go to the edit screen and copy that, not the output. This appears to be meaningless gibber, even if I did understand German fluently. I also had a ton of edit conflicts and I have no idea if I just deleted anything important or not... -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 19:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Wayne - I'm not sure why you contacted me (especially as you have made no other edits on Wikipedia, apart from the one to this page!). I don't read or speak German - I used Google Translate to see what all that was about. So, I can see that you are "American Rockabilly- And Rock 'n' roll musician and songwriter. Cogswell wrote in the late 1950s and early 1960s hits for stars such as Chet Atkins, Skeeter Davis and Floyd Cramer." The problem that I see with this article is that there are no sources of information! I don't know what the policies on the German Wikipedia are, but on the English Wikipedia, we like to have sources of information from reliable, independent sources, which confirm the information in an article.
 * What we would need from you are some sources of information which confirm the details in the above article's text. A quick search on Google News revealed no hits; Google News Archive revealed a few - but none about you'; Google Scholar had a few hits, but they all basically had one-line entries along the lines of "Wayne Cogwell wrote... "; Google Books results are similar to the Scholar results. Google Search had a few mentions about you, but I didn't notice any sites we would count as reliable for our purposes.
 * Without reliable sources, there can't be an article.
 * Perhaps you could contact the 3 editors on the German Wikipedia who created and edited your article? Perhaps they could tell you the sources they used.
 * So, regretfully, I am not going to do anything further on this - I have spent a bit of time looking for information about you, and not finding the significant coverage which is required by our policies and guidelines. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Team Touchdown
I created a SPI case which is linked to the discussion you were participating in. MajorMinorMark (talk) 23:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know. I saw your link on the ANI thread, and was going to have a look later! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 23:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Team Touchdown.
TEAM TOUCHDOWN IS AWESOME AND YOU SHOULDN"T HAVE DELETED THEIR PAGE YOU BASTARD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Millsy360 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude, DNFT an' all that - A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">l i e  ❤ 08:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * (does his best Yul Brynner impression): "So it is written, so it shall be done" --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Rfa?
Re this comment - if you would like to be an admin, I would be more than happy to nominate you. I have seen you around enough to know that you know what you are doing and display the requisite knowledge of policies etc. Let me know. – ukexpat (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind words. However, I am currently doing admin coaching with Juliancolton, and if/when he feels that I am ready, he will nominate me. I've still got quite a few areas to work on - I've only just started the coaching! I must admit, having seen so much of you around, I thought that you were an admin, so was surprised to see that you aren't! Anyway, once again, thanks for the kind words. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I meant to say before - contact Juliancolton: perhaps when/if he decides I am ready for nomination, he might be happy for you to co-nominate? I don't know how this kind of thing works! As I say, though, it wouldn't be for a while any way --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 21:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You can have co-noms, I had SoWhy and Camaron at mine. I look forward to seeing you at RfA sometime, I've a good feeling about it! Ged  UK  14:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comment! So, if someone wanted to co-nom me at some unspecified date in the future, do they contact Julian and ask him, or can they just add to his nom if he puts up an RfA for me? As I say, it won't be anytime too soon, as I've only just started admin coaching! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:32, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think there's any hard and fast rules/procedures on that, but it seems sensible that the two co-noms are in contact with each other. I seem to remember that I approached my first nominator to tell him someone else had offered to nom as well, and did he mind co-noming. Something like that (it's buried in my talkpage archive if you're bored!). Have you done an editor review, by the way? They can sometimes be helpful, though under far less scrutiny than RfA. Ged  UK  14:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have a review here - please feel free to give a second review if you want to! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There are admin training classes? -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 14:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, see WP:Admin coaching --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I hope to get to your editor review this weekend. :o) Ged  UK  22:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be very welcome, if you have the time! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 06:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

"I don't like this game!"
"You rotten swine you, caughted me!" Here's a picture of the Queen and her bum. Sorry all I have is 2/6 and the lurgi. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 17:37, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, she must have been paddled with something really strange as a child to have a derriere in that shape. >.> -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 17:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thank you very much for this barnstar - I'm glad that I could be helpful --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 06:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Your Eald Englisc user page text, translated
Mīn hāmƿici is en: hƿær mīn brūcendsīde en:User:Phantomsteve is.

—<b style="font-size:medium; color:#000000;">ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ</b> ( ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ ) 05:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I have placed the translated text on my user page. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 06:30, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Singapore International Energy Week 2009 concludes
Hi Phantomsteve,

Thanks for the reference updates! The Singapore International Energy Week concluded last week with many energy experts discussing and propelling the drive for sustainable energy.

As such, could we trouble you to edit "is taking place" to "took place" in the following line? 2009: "Clean Energy: Sustainable Solutions for Urban Cities" Singapore International Energy Week 2009 is taking place from 16 - 20 November at the Shangri-la Hotel in Singapore.

Additionally, there has been more media coverage on the event. You could consider the following for the references:

Cheam, Jessica (20 November 2009). "Energy's the topic of the week". The Straits Times. http://blogs.straitstimes.com/2009/11/20/energy-s-the-topic-of-the-week

(19 November 2009). "Singapore hosts inaugural Clean Energy Expo Asia". People's Daily Online. http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/6817552.html

Thanks again!Aaron Yeo SIWW (talk) 07:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Aaron, I've altered the tense of the sentence to the past tense! I'll look at those refs later today (I'm on my way out now!). Incidently, you can edit the article yourself (for example, you could have changed the sentence to the past tense) - although I am quite happy to continue looking at (and adding) references! Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 09:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Aaron, I see that you altered one of the other tenses to be past tense - well done! I have also done another verb tense correction.
 * Onto your 2 references: the Straight Times one is an interesting read, but I will need to read it carefully to see what facts can be used in the article! A lot of it is Cheam's opinions, which cannot be put in the article - but I will glean the facts and insert them!
 * The People one is more useable - it is a factual report, and so I can insert facts from this more easily!
 * I will do this during the next few minutes. Thanks once again for coming to me with these references - the fact that I am inserting the information helps to ensure the article's neutrality. I know nothing about the SIEW, and have no particular interest in it - so I can write in a neutral way!
 * Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

secret pages
Actually this sort of stuff was determined to be deletable a while back (where if I recall correctly, I did not feel them as evil as others did) -- I generally weigh in where I feel the reasons so far given on a topic are insufficient for the result sought by those already posting. With the mass deletion of secret pages in the past, it is difficult for me to expect a different result now. Collect (talk) 00:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response - I wasn't expecting you to !vote on the MfD, but I was interested in getting your take on the issue. As I said at the MfD, most times I would !vote delete on these kinds of pages, as the vast majority of them are done by editors who have little (if any) article work or Wikipedia namespace edits. In this case, I felt that the editor in question is working towards bettering the encyclopedia elsewhere, and so should be given leeway. As I noted at the MfD, the policy does not say "Games will not be allowed" - it includes the phrase about "particular if they are not contributing to the encyclopedia". Concensus has never been reached on this issue - otherwise the policy would just say "Games are not allowed." with no provision of a grey area!
 * Again, thanks for your comment here --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:25, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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Timothy Lin article
Dear PhantomSteve:

I need a talkback on this.

Please contact my attorney, Mr. Osher. He is putting finishing touches on the copyright and permission issue. This all should be worked out this week. Mr. Osher's e-mail is. If you have any further questions, please deal with my attorney regarding them.

Very Truly Yours,

EMarley —Preceding unsigned comment added by EMarley (talk • contribs) 21:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Nice work on organizing and cleaning up this article. Still needs work, but at least it looks all Wiki now. :) Mitchell k dwyer (talk) 19:11, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't know if you've seen the message I left on EMarley's talk page, but I have contacted both the church and the other individual (whose name I have forgotten) requesting permission to use the pictures (or even one of their choosing if they want) - along with the consent form for them to fill in. If they give permission, I will forward that to permissions (although they might send it directly themselves, as I gave the details of how to). If they refuse permission, I will remove the images.
 * Oh by the way, thanks for the advice that you have given EMarley - even if they aren't really paying too much attention to it! Keep up the good work --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 19:23, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Dr. Timothy Lin photograph
Hello PhantomSteve-

I am writing in regards to a photograph of Dr. Timothy Lin that my client has attempted to upload onto Dr. Lin's Wikipedia article. My client owns the copyright to the photograph by virtue of an assignment of copyright he received from the individual that took the photograph. On November 13, 2009 and again no November 20, 2009, I submitted a copy of the photograph and a copy of the assignment of copyright to Wikipedia via the e-mail photosubmission@wikimedia.org. I have not heard back yet regarding my request to have the photo displayed on Dr. Lin's and Dr. Hymers' website. Can you assist me in this regard?

Thanks Jeremy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckjo (talk • contribs) 22:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * With respect, I have no verification of your identity. I have already contacted the Church requesting permission for the reproduction of the photograph, as they are shown as the copyright owner of the image.
 * However, on the assumption that you are indeed Jeremy O. Osher of Boren,Osher & Luftman, I assume that when you created you account here (for which your edit to leave this message is your only one), you created it using your work e-mail address? If you did, then on the left hand side of this page, you will see a link E-mail this user. If you click on that, and send me an e-mail confirming your identity. It will show the e-mail address that you registered with.
 * If you did not, put your work e-mail in the e-mail address on the my preferences, and then send the e-mail. Please note, I will use WHOIS tools to identify where it came from (I would suggest that you send it from a computer in your office). Once I have confirmed your identity, I will e-mail you with detailed instructions as to how to notify the WikiMedia Foundation about the copyright situation of this photograph.
 * As I have already said, I have contacted the First Chinese Baptist Church of Los Angeles requesting permission to use the photograph (or one of their own choosing, if they prefer).
 * I await your e-mail. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 22:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

PhantomSteve-

I just sent you an e-mail; hopefully I did it right.

Thanks Jeremy Osher —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckjo (talk • contribs) 23:09, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You did indeed do it correctly! I have sent you a return e-mail to your work e-mail address, detailing how to contact the WikiMedia Foundation to confirm that the images may appear on Wikipedia.
 * May I especially recommend that you carefully read the licencing conditions which I have referred to (although with your special emphasis on Intellectual Property, you will no doubt already be familiar with them) - and especially ensures that the copyright owner is aware of them, and what permissions they are giving when they say Wikipedia can use the image.
 * Also, should you contact the Foundation directly (rather than through me), could you please send me a copy of your e-mail for my records?
 * Thanks for the quick response, and I look forward to sorting this out to everyone's satisfaction --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 23:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Singapore International Energy Week 2009 concludes (2)
Thanks Phantomsteve! Really appreciate your effort in making the article more informative.Aaron Yeo SIWW (talk) 04:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome! If more reliable sources are forthcoming, let me know! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
For the review)) Regards Jprw (talk) 11:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome. I hope that it helps. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:09, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

UAA
Hey, nice work at UAA! Just one quick note: generally, we don't (or at least, I don't) block promotional usernames unless they've made explicitly promotional edits. Thus, I've tagged a couple of your reports with. Just something to keep in mind. :) Regards, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) I'll bear that in mind. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 02:16, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Columbus Symphony Orchestra
Greetings,

I'm a long time member of the Columbus Symphony. Some years ago the name was changed from Columbus Symphony Orchestra. I'm not sure why. If you need more confirmation I can put you in touch with the new CEO Roland Valliere if that would help.

I've fixed the Symphony Musicians link.

Cheers, Chris Saetti Administrator of The Musicians of the Columbus Symphonyweb site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.228.150 (talk) 15:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for contacting me, Chris. A while ago, someone else from CSO contacted me about the same thing. At the time, I checked on the official website, and there was no mention of the fact that they were now known as "Columbus Symphony". Now I see that most of the referencs on the website appear to say "Columbus Symphony" rather than Columbus Symphony Orchestra. As such, I am going to move the article to "Columbus Symphony Orchestra" to "Columbus Symphony" to reflect this (if someone types in Columbus Symphony Orchestra, they will be redirected to CS). I will also amend the wording in the article to reflect that they are known as CS, but that their full title is CSO. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 15:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Captain ...
Your initial instincts were right - though it may not be a hoax it's been deleted before here. Keep up the good work. 7 01:14, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The official website doesn't mention it, but doesn't appear to have been updated in a while! I can't find any reliable sources for the title though, but plenty of mentions - that's why I removed the SD! -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 01:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, plenty of ghits but this is one of those strange times where google will say there are 13,000 hits, but then when you go to results page 5 or 6 it says there are only about 60 - none from RS.  Either way, with no new info the prior AFD makes it a moot point.  Thanks.   7  01:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Kind of Blue (TQ album)
Hello Phantomsteve, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Kind of Blue (TQ album) - a page you tagged - because: A9 doesn't apply as there is an article for the artist ;o) Needs to be AfDed or PRODded. WP:HAMMER will almost certainly apply. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know.  Ged  UK  16:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That was my own fault - I read the conditions as being "or" not "and" as it clearly states! I'll remember next time. I am starting to patrol the backlog of unpatrolled new pages - even if all I do is add a little bit of information, tags or tidy up (although if it looks like an SD/PROD/AfD candidate, I will do that too!) I think a lot of people look at the newest pages, but I don't think so many people go to the backlog! -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 16:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Before I got mopped, I used to patrol the back end of the list. It felt less rushed somehow (how much time did you waste patrolling an article at the front when someone else was doing it too, or it getting deleted, like I did!). The back of the list never gets enough attention, so keep up the good work! Ged  UK  16:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Problem with my watchlist
Hi Phantomsteve - thanks for your help on my watchlist issue. However, I have tried deleting them from my watchlist several times in the ways you suggest, and they just re-appear again. I think it may be some kind of virus. Also, they are deleted pages (I have never visited or added the pages to my watchlist before). The pages are called HÁGGER? and H A G G Ë R ? ? . I am concerned because I recently read a page about an anti-social, disruptive editor called Grawp, who apparently uses these names to create sock-puppet accounts. Is there anyone who can look into this? Thanks. Pexise (talk) 17:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Pexise. I'm sorry but I can't find those pages, as the first one was deleted in April 2008, and the second was deleted in November 2008. I would suggest adding your message above to your question on the help desk, as I do not know where else to direct you for further help. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 18:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Excuse me while I facepalm. (facepalms) Okay, my astonishment over Grawp is over. The watchlist problem seems... odd. Without knowing what Phantomsteve told you, I can only guess, but it might be that you forgot to save the edited watchlist (I've done it before). If you know you saved, try deleting them from the raw watchlist. If you've done that and they're still there, run a full anti-virus scan. According to xeno, if Wikipedia starts screwing up like that, it's almost certain to be an issue with your computer rather than Wikipedia. I know that's not exactly a comforting thought. If nothing shows up, trying deleting your cookies or clearing your browser's cache. Sorry, but that's all the help I can think of. -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 18:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Huggle Edit Summary
I don't know whether it was you or not, but my instinct tells me it was you. Was it you who had a False Positive attached to the Edit summary while using Huggle? If No, then ignore, if yes, then plese tell me how to do it. Regards, and sorry about the opposition on the AfD.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think it was me - I haven't used Huggle in a couple of weeks! As for the AfD - that's why we have them, for discussion. I am sometimes in line with concensus, sometimes not - but everyone has to write what they perceive to be correct! -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 07:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Newbie Question
History of your Talk Page shows an unauthorized deletion of texts without your consent. Is it legal at wikipedia?--Newbiex (talk) 07:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. It is generally to remove vandalism, though occasionally mistakes can be made. A user has the right to say what they do or don't want on their talk page (unless they use it for vandalism themselves, in which case, they get their page blanked and themselves blocked), but a little extra help cleaning out the stables never hurt anyone. Hope that answered you question. -- Thejadefalcon <sup style="color:#03C03C;">Sing your song <sub style="color:#00A550;">The bird's seeds 07:33, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * As Thejadefalcon says, it is perfectly ok for other editors to remove vandalism. I check my history regularly, and if someone has removed something which I think should not have been removed, I just re-insert it. However, this has only happened once or twice - all the other occasions are when it was vandalism, and was right to be moved. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 08:02, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Help desk
Hmm, I don't think we missed anything =p SpitfireTally-ho! 20:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Great minds think alike, they say! Mind you, they also say that fools seldom differ ... -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 20:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)