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Obsidian Key
If you can just add the appropriate independent references to demonstrate the band's notability, I can reinstate it.Deb (talk) 11:15, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the huge delay of my answer, here is a complete list of appropriate independent references to demonstrate band's notability:


 * Information Resources and pedias (these should be reliable as they check the info they pubblish):

Last.fm - http://www.last.fm/music/Obsidian+Key MusicBrainz - http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0cd5bd95-ab8f-499d-9ce0-50e605b2ccf4 Sonic Bids - http://profiles.sonicbids.com/artists/ObsidianKey Let's Rock Music - http://letsrockmusic.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/obsidian-key-official-website/ (this blog is in Spanish language) Artistopia - http://www.artistopia.com/obsidian-key


 * TV/Radio/Music Stations websites (These are commercial websites who usually publish info from wikipedia and so should be reliable) :

BBC Music - http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/0cd5bd95-ab8f-499d-9ce0-50e605b2ccf4 MTV Artists - http://www.mtv.com/artists/obsidian-key/ Jango Radio - http://www.jango.com/music/Obsidian+Key Rdio - http://www.rdio.com/artist/Obsidian_Key/


 * Specialized Web sites and Archives (These are Progressive Rock/Prog Metal dedicated web sites with reviews/info/music releases):

MusicMetric - http://artist.musicmetric.com/obsidian+key/633412 ProgStravaganza - http://www.progstravaganza.com/obsidian-key/ Power of Prog - http://powerofprog.com/profile/ObsidianKey Metal Kingdom - http://www.metalkingdom.net/band/6188_obsidian_key Spirit Of Metal - http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/groupe-groupe-Obsidian_Key-l-en.html Get My Band - http://www.getmyband.com/bands/obsidian-key


 * Internet Music Listening websites (These websites contains band's music released for sell or commercial internet listening):

Spotify - https://play.spotify.com/artist/2Ge3gNsBT2tsWDn9PTln9f Rhapsody - http://www.rhapsody.com/artist/obsidian-key/ SoundCloud - https://soundcloud.com/obsidian-key


 * Live Events specialized websites (not sure if the following resources are 100% reliable as reference, but the usually have correct gigs info):

Concert With Me (NL) - http://concertwith.me/artist/Obsidian+Key (this resource is in Dutch Language ) The Phoenix (USA/Boston) - http://events.thephoenix.com/Boston/Concerts/Artist/Obsidian+Key/

None of the previous resources is managed/pubblished/edited/directly connected to the band.


 * Social Networks (these are pages managed by the bands, but i give you the URL because of the massive number of followers that should clarify that the band is known in Progressive music world):

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Obsidian.Key.Music (now with more than 16.000 followers ) MySpace - https://myspace.com/obsidiankey (now with more than 12.000 followers ) Google+ - https://plus.google.com/+Obsidiankey/posts

There are also about 48 on-line music shops who sells Obsidian Key's music which includes amazon.com (and all the international amazon on-line stores, google play, iTunes and others)

Hope this is good enough, thanks for your help.

Phantomz73 (talk) 00:49, 17 January 2014 (UTC)User:Phantomz73 (talk) 00:27, 17 January 2013


 * I think you need to read the notability and verifiability guidelines again. Social networks are not acceptable, and the BBC page you quote only says that it does not have any entry for this band - which is counter to your suggestion of notability.  I would recommend you submit a new version of the article to Articles for creation rather than risk having it repeatedly deleted. Deb (talk) 12:17, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks, will check Articles for creation. Please note: mtv.com and others do have content for the band (and it is not created from the band, so they are compliant to wikipedia verifiability), while bbc.co.uk gets content from wikipedia, and, even if wikipedia is not a relevant and important source for progressive rock music, to feed these music websites like bbc.co.uk, we now need to publish an article on wikipedia. That's really all the need for a page. while for wikipedia social networks are not important, they are now vital for music industry, so are specialised music websites, so really not trying to force any presence on wikipedia, just being pressured by these new form of certain relevant music websites to get content from wikipedia instead from typical google's structured data and such... Thanks. Phantomz73 (talk) 19:59, 20 January 2014