User talk:Pharos/Golden Age of Aviation

El Senor Presidente
I agree that the play should be mentioned in adaptations, the only reason it hasnt been added thus far was because we did not have a reliable reference for it. That said, is there anything more that the book you found this information in said about the adaptation, was it well recieved, where it was originally performed, was it in English or Spanish adaptation? If these details are readily available to you and you wouldn't mind adding a sentence or two about the play adaptation I would really appreciate it. Thanks, --Mfreud (talk) 19:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for adding the bit about the play, it really helps round out the part on adaptations. I really appreciate the positive contribution! --Mfreud (talk) 05:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

My blog
Hey Pharos, thank you very much for the suggestion of putting my blog on Planet Wikimedia. I wasn't aware of that. I made the request, and have been exploring the other ones on there...good stuff! Thanks! -Pete (talk) 05:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes Manhattan! - usability suggstions for photos
I don't know if you've been monitoring the mention of this on the COM:Village Pump, but I made a couple suggestions there as to how to possibly preserve as many photos as possible for future use both here and on other language wikis and outside, beyond depicting the event. They deal primarily with how the participants document the code #s that specific locations/objects are tied to. Let me know what you think, since I haven't done one of these yet, so maybe I'm off. Broken Sphere Msg me 20:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes City question
Hi, I'm organizing the Wikipedia Takes Nashville event. I was just wondering how you went about getting sponsors, e.g. O'Reilly Media. Any other advise would be appreciated. Kaldari (talk) 22:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Pharos, I got your emails and they were very helpful. O'Reilly Media has already agreed to ship some books to us which is awesome! Thanks for sending me their PR address. What do you think of our Goals page? An improvement or too complicated? Kaldari (talk) 21:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've already started talking with some local photography groups and started planning the publicity work. Nashville's a pretty small city so I think word will get around. That's also why we don't have that many targets (that don't have photos at least). Kaldari (talk) 20:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No I don't understand the crazy templates at all. Perhaps you could write up some brief instructions for me :) Kaldari (talk) 22:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia takes the world 2008
I started this in hope for a larger event, but need your help possibly. Does it look good enough to go public? STORMTRACKER   94  Go Irish! 21:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your your comments. Could you help me organize this? And when should the date be? I was thinking sometime in June. STORMTRACKER    94  Go Irish! 09:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wikimedia regional blog
Hi Pharos and thank you for the kind invitation! I just thought that I would let you know that I have not organized any wiki-meetups in the past, I did however post the post-meetup summary (as small as it was). I believe that you would be looking for User:TexasDex, the organizer of Philly meetup 6, in this case. Regards and good luck with your project. --ImmortalGoddezz ( t/c ) 22:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Meetup thread?
Did I get incivil with David Shankbone? I thought I was presenting a legitimate concern. BusterD (talk) 04:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My primary concern is unintentional harm done to uninvolved parties, as was the case with Brad. One photographer's stridency isn't relevant to whether a user chooses to put others' safety at risk. No mere policy or page consensus is relevant to such an actual life or death issue. In my comments I never made a statement of policy, neither did I characterize anyone's motives. I simply reported my experience, and made a predictive generalization. Hey, I liked the idea of meeting some of those I know online, but all this drama will keep me from participating. You can run your events anyway you want, but be aware your choices will determine attendance. Sorry if this conversation has been negative; I've been paid to run large (somewhat political) volunteer-driven events before (and done it for free, too), and I thought I might offer a varying perspective, based on hard experience. BusterD (talk) 12:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, one paid political operative's dramatic "life or death in photos" and cluelessness is not going to trump our "mere policy or page consensus". Both Pharos and I have told you, in no uncertain terms, that it was Brad who put himself at risk, and that it was *not* a case of "unintentional harm done to uninvolved parties".  It was a case of Brad willingly being photographed, indeed, joining photographs.  What part of this do you just not understand, and how many more links to photos do I need to give you?  At this point, I just find you offensive and I am thankful you will not be there - the Meet-Ups are enjoyable social occasions, and we can do without your drama and your clinging to false notions, which have been dispelled repeatedly.  -- David  Shankbone  13:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Again with the spinning and characterizations. I wasn't talking to you, David Shankbone. I have heard quite enough from you. If you knew how highly I valued your opinion, you wouldn't waste your time expressing it to me. I was trying to explain my concerns civilly, outside of a more public discussion area, to the person who's been talking real-world responsibility for these events, the fellow who has to deal with consequences and with his legal name attached. BusterD (talk) 13:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm more concerned with you stoking undue fear in people. You aren't my target audience, BusterD, and you are not nearly important enough on the site to anyone who doesn't like Wikipedia to be a target.  The truth is, the vast majority of people on here have nothing to hide, and even people who are loathed by the enemies of Wikipedia, like User:Cberlet, User:JoshuaZ and User:David Gerard are out about who they are in real life, and haven't had their children, dogs or family members threatened with death.  If the stakes are so high for you, or anyone, in editing an online encyclopedia, you *really* should not be here.  Brad was targeted for his position as an ArbCom member and Admin, and, to be honest, because he had made it clear he valued his anonymity.  If editors act like there are consequences, then people will target them.  This is wisdom, and surely you must know that once you reveal a weakness in yourself, it gets exploited by people who don't like you.  You are starting to sound ridiculous, and if your hysteria is warranted, then I will put it to you plainly:  you shouldn't be here. Right now I see you stoking fear in 19 year olds who edit Pokemon articles, when there are people who have put far more on the line than you who would disagree with what you are saying (including, I might add, some of the people whose names you throw around - and I'm in a position to know).-- David  Shankbone  13:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oy vey. Look, I don't fully understand why the conversation between you two has devolved in this way.  I can only say (1) There is zero chance that anyone will photograph someone who does not wish to be photographed, for all the reasons explained, (2) we are not turning the chapter into a secret society (3) everyone always has been and remains welcome to come to the meetup, and (4) as interim Chapter President, I officially declare all New York meetups a wikidrama-free zone (you'd be amazed how the tone is shifted when human beings actually have faces).--Pharos (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Knowing your onions
Thanks for quickly reverting my most foolish edit to date. Live and learn! - Fayenatic (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Planning for the 7th Wikipedia Meetup
The planning for the summer Philadelphia meetup has begun. We would appreciate your input. You're getting this invitation because you're on Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Philadelphia meet-up invite list. BrownBot (talk) 21:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

ITN candidate page mockup
Please take a look at User:BanyanTree/Sandbox. I couldn't figure out a way to automatically update the Current events templates AND put conversation under the relevant day's template without getting someone to make a bot to create a specialize discussion template that transcludes each day's current events template. I also took a stab at a timer, though I'm not sure I got the coding right. Feel free to play around in the sandbox to make it conform more closely with your vision. - BanyanTree 01:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

NYC Meetup: June 1, 2008
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, elect a board of directors, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the last meeting's minutes).

We'll also review our recent Wikipedia Takes Manhattan event, and make preparations for our exciting successor Wiki Week bonanza, being planned with Columbia University students for September or October.

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

Also, check out our regional US Wikimedia chapters blog Wiki Northeast (and we're open to guest posts). This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 00:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I am likely to come but I have yet to make the arrangements. Sorry for being so out of the loop ... we got less nagging this time, which does help remind us. And yes, I should sign up for the mailing list; I don't have an excuse anymore.

As for video, my camera could do it but it only has 512MB on it, and I don't know how long that lasts. If someone else has, say, a 2 or even 4GB card, that might work. Daniel Case (talk) 21:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

ITN/C changes
Hi. I noticed you changed the format of ITN/C, in accordance with BanyanTree's suggestion. While I am not outright opposed to the change, I do not think it is a great idea to make the change without a larger discussion. I know the idea was fairly well-received on the ITN 2.0 talk page, but a larger discussion at ITN Talk would have been nice. Perhaps you could temporarily revert yourself until a more formal agreement is reached? Random 89  09:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, BOLD action is probably needed in the case of ITN, and seeing your comments on the ITN talk page, perhaps we should at least try it for a few days. On the other hand, many of the "regular" contributors which deal with ITN on a more ongoing basis had not necessarily commented on the format, which is where my hesitance stemmed from. Random  89  18:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, look at me commenting before realizing you had been reverted. The "I ignored your reminders of the ongoing discussion but because nobody asked me directly what my opinion is, so I'm going to revert"-aspect gets to me.  Despite my initial impulse to go risk my adminship, it looks like we're going to talk some more.  This is precisely why I have largely removed myself from policy/process discussions - you spend an eternity trying to get people to step outside their preconceptions and personalities rather than discussing actual topics. Though of course the same could be said of myself. Heh. - BanyanTree 00:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll follow your lead. - BanyanTree 09:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

DC-Baltimore chapter
I'm not really much involved in the chapter formation; Swatjester seems to be leading the effort. I've posted your note on his user talk page; if you don't hear from him, you might want to follow up directly. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes Nashville
Thanks for catching my cheat sheet errors :) I've made handouts and registration forms for the event that I'm going to genericize to put on Wikipedia Takes The City next week. I'll let you know how everything goes tomorrow. Thanks again for all your help! Kaldari (talk) 23:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

May, 2008
This edit was certainly unhelpful. You seem to know that the article in question is the subject of an WP:AFD. Blanking an article in the middle of an AFD discussion is, to say the least, improper. 09:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow. I see you're an administrator who has deleted this article before, no less.  You should know the proper procedure, I think.  Someone is rebuilding it constructively.  I would simply have reverted.  Wikidemo (talk) 09:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

ITN/C
Okay, thanks. Spencer T♦C 20:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

ITN
I suggest the wording of the first item be fixed to (changes in bold): "In the aftermath of the Sichuan earthquake, Chinese officials evacuate 100,000 people from Mianyang as engineers prepare to drain the landslide-created Tangjiashan Lake." It still may need to be tweaked and "drain" could link to drainage, but that's up to you. Spencer T♦C 23:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've modified it, taking your suggestions into account (some folks probably not like it, though, if I linked "Chinese" to People's Republic of China).--Pharos (talk) 23:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * One more thing: you might want to fix the landslide dam-created link to [[landslide dam|landslide-created]]. Spencer  T♦C 23:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I kind of like it the way it is, because it advertises to people that there is a distinct "landslide dam" article, and the link isn't hidden.--Pharos (talk) 23:27, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I find it somewhat awkward...the if it's the whole "landslide-created" thing...but it's okay for now, unless it seems really unbearable with others. Thanks again, Spencer  T♦C 00:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Fastest FA creation, nomination, promotion and featuring
Mentioned you and George Washington (inventor) at the discussion (very off-topic) towards the bottom of Featured article candidates/Peter Wall, and thought you might like to know. Carcharoth (talk) 21:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Discussion has been moved here. Carcharoth (talk) 22:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Main page
Hmm... is my screen too big? What size are we aiming for?--Pharos (talk) 19:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I feel as if I am answering Sphinx's questions. You see, the main page balance is not an exact science; it is dependent upon various factors, such as screen resolution, window configuration, font size and browser. I have been told so many different complaints by different users, I really don't know which tune I should dance to. I guess what we can do is to tolerate small, insignificant blank spaces on Main Page (on our screens), and fix any seriously big chunk of blank space. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit Feud Problem
Some time ago I received a weird email, requesting assistance; I tried to resolve the problem, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators% 27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=214315379 on administrators board. I tried to resolve the problem; User Mkil and somebody else have been at war with a guy named boxingwear.

You can see the history here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MKil&action=history
 * It is obvious privacy violation is a problem here, I do not think Mkil has the right to do what he is doing, doing this on purpose and he knows it. There is also 3kk warning on his site and many other warnings.

I am not sure what to do here, you are administrator so see what could be done.
 * In the above link edit feud has been reported but nothing has been resolved.

thank you for your time Whatsupdoggy (talk) 21:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course, Whatsupdoggy is none other than BoxingWear/Projects/Vesa/the George Reeves Person vandal. He likes to pose as other users to try and support his positions. His inimitable writing style gives him away every time, though.MKil (talk) 21:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)MKil
 * I have to say, the writing style makes it difficult for me to even understand what this is supposed to be about.--Pharos (talk) 21:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The above user thinks everybody is boxignwear, i simply reverted his page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MKil&action=history privacy vilation, mkil is using names, not name of the account he is not supposed to use, now he even posted same reply on noticeboard, this problem truly violates wikipedia rules, i simply reverted the name, nothing more and nothing else, is that a crime? 64.107.220.166 (talk) 21:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC) Antandrus as an administrator should enforce those rules, he is not, he is supporting mkil on this minor problem, i do not care if library or indonesia is blocked, privacy rules do not seem to matter to some people here...I reverted again name calling and mkil is responsible for his actions, he knows the rules, he has 3rr warnings on his talk page, he should not be allowed to edit, this is only about name calling, i am not reverting anything else! He had 3rr problem before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MKil#3RR —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whatsupdoggy (talk • contribs) 21:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Reeves, projects and the rest have nothing to do with each other, except boxingwear is one and the only and thank you so much for help, you cant even take care of simply privacy violation, such good deed will be always remembered...you are doing great job!