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Muammar al-Gaddafi
I've removed the GA tag you added. These are only supposed to be added by people uninvolved with the page. Furthermore, the article has multiple unsourced statements. Picaroon (t) 22:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough: I didn't notice the four "fact" tags. However, I'm not a primary editor of the article!Phase4 22:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I know, but I think the goal of the GA process is to get somebody completely uninvolved. Picaroon (t) 22:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That's the ideal. But in practice nobody is completely uninvolved.Phase4 22:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Wrong. It's call conflict of interest. We have rules for granting articles with GA status. I contributed some articles that I think should be promoted to GA, yet I stay my hands off the promotion process because of the rules. And please provide comments on the review if you wish to give an article GA status. See Talk:Rachel Carson as example. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Good articles
Hi Phase4. Thanks for showing some interest in the GA project. Please review the project page if you wish to participate, and also the nomination page. Also check out the criteria. GA reviews must be done by editors who have not significantly contributed to the article, which must first be nominated. The article must also meet all of the criteria. Complete reviews with notes must be included with each review. Additionally, there is more to listing an article than tagging it's talk page. All articles you have tagged are being delisted. Please refrain from doing this in the future. Thank you.  Lara  ❤  Love  03:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for this advice.Phase4 11:12, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Louis Pienaar

 * I didn't know that a fact about Louis Pienaar would be featured today. But, I do now!Phase4 20:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

 * Thanks for letting me know.Phase4 20:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * I've said on the image page that there can be no other image to replace this one: Shirley McKie against a background of a fingerprint!Phase4 20:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Lothar Neethling

 * Thank you for letting me know.Phase4 10:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Black's blog
Here's the scoop. Article talk pages are for discussion of articles. That's where we write - this is what should be in the article, this is what shouldn't, this is how to phrase it, this is what style to use, and so forth.

Article talk pages are not to discuss the truth or falsity of what the subject has to say, only what our article has to say about it. Imagine if it were otherwise: would we want the talk page on, say, Pol Pot or Joseph Stalin, to be covered with the very justified wailings of the relatives of their millions of victims? Hopefully not. We're an encyclopedia, not a chat forum.

Now, unless you want to discuss how a specific Wikipedia editor has edited the specific article on X, that talk page of article X is not the place to discuss it. Repeating the article subject's attacks on a specific Wikipedia editor is participating in the attack. Just because the article subject is on a crusade, and feels entitled to steamroller the editor's feelings, that attack is not justified here.

I can assure you that the issue that the subject refers to about the editor has been investigated by large numbers of Administrators, and multiple members of the Arbitration committee, and I even doubt it has escaped the attention of Jimbo Wales. They've done what they're going to do. If you want to keep bringing it to their attention, I don't think it will be appreciated, but at least I won't block you for it. They may get annoyed, and may well tell you that they've heard it before, or they may appreciate it. I can't speak for them. :-) It will, at least, be closer to the right forum.

However restoring it on article talk pages after it has been deleted is verging on a personal attack. Please don't. --AnonEMouse (squeak) 23:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I accept your assurances about the investigations made, and do not propose to bring the matter to their attention again. Thanks for your explanation.Phase4 09:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Swedish iDAG newspaper articles
Assuming a likely copyvio, you (CBM) have today blanked the three Swedish iDAG newspaper articles from Talk:Alternative theories of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103/Archive 2. These articles were written by Swedish journalist Jan-Olof Bengtsson who has given permission to former British diplomat Patrick Haseldine to use them in any way he chooses (see Patrick Haseldine):


 * Haseldine got in touch with Swedish journalist Jan-Olof Bengtsson about three articles Bengtsson had written in the iDAG newspaper in March 1990 about UN Commissioner for Namibia, Bernt Carlsson. The main thrust of these Swedish articles appeared to be that South African pressure had been applied to Carlsson so that he would take Pan Am Flight 103. Bengtsson mailed the articles to him from Malmö following a fax dated November 23 1995:
 * "Dear Mr Haseldine, Have just received your fax and you'll have copies of my three articles published in iDAG in the mail at once. As you understand they are in Swedish so you have to translate them.
 * "The articles were published as follows – 1990-03-12, 1990-03-13 and 1990-03-14.
 * "I would very much like to have the articles/letters you've published in The Guardian before and after the explosion.
 * "I don't know the British regulations of how to use articles and press materials in your court system as evidence. But if you find my articles and 'digging' helpful supporting your theories, you have my permission to use them in any way you want.
 * "Yours sincerely,
 * "Jan-Olof Bengtsson"

I think you will agree that this is not therefore a copyvio. I should be grateful if you would reinsert the iDAG articles at /Archive 2, and undo your edit to the Alternative theories of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 article. Thanks.Phase4 (talk) 13:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The copyright for the articles almost certainly belongs to the newspaper, not the original author of the story. We would need permission from the newspaper to republish their content in translation. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 13:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Mark Malloch Brown
Hello. You deleted an entry I made to this article noting a well-publicized recent controversy about MMB's use of a grace and favour residence. The entry was factual, and (I would suggest) surely relevant to the reputation and career of one now serving in the public eye in political life. It had also been rather carefully drafted to be neutral in tone. Please explain your deletion, which might be interpreted as verging on censorship... Nandt1 (talk) 04:16, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I reverted the edit because it fails the WP:V test, and does not provide an inline citation.Phase4 (talk) 11:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I wonder how you would have reacted if all your unreferenced controversial material in Alternative theories of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 had been deleted? You should add the "fact" tag before making a deletion to allow the editor a chance to correct the issue.  Socrates2008 (talk) 12:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

There is a higher threshold for controversial material added to biographies: that is why I removed it rather than tagging the MMB article.Phase4 (talk) 12:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

The entry is now sourced. I have referenced The Times, as I encountered some difficulty over online access to The Spectator's original article. Incidentally, while the interpretation one places on the story might I suppose be described as "controversial", the material facts as I have stated them (which have been widely published) do not appear to be in dispute.Nandt1 (talk) 15:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this revised edit: I've expanded it a bit.Phase4 (talk) 16:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Safia Aoude
You wrote:
 * In order to defeat the "deletionists" would you be prepared to keep Safia Aoude's article?Phase4 11:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess its a moot point now, but thanks for the opportunity. I've been on extended wikibreak. Mattopaedia (talk) 01:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Another keep vote would have been symbolic and couldn't have changed the outcome!Phase4 (talk) 12:02, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Pan Am Flight 103
You said: "(cur) (last) 23:05, 25 November 2007 Phase4 (Talk | contribs | block) (69,017 bytes) (rv: edits by WhisperToMe need prior discussion and agreement on talk page) (rollback | undo) "

I say: Careful, that prior discussion and agreement may become invalidated by the fact that "This media has no author information, and may be lacking other information. Media should have a summary to inform others of the content, author, source, and date if possible. If you know or have access to such information, please add it to the image page."

Look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PA103cockpit4.jpg

I can put the image on IFD and have it deleted if there is no more information about where that image came from.

Now, I shall look at the discussion and see how valid it is. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

By discussion, Phase, is THIS what you are talking about: Talk:Pan_Am_Flight_103/Archive_6 ?

I do not see much of a discussion there. Anyway, I nominated the image for deletion on Commons. It is likely that the image may be deleted from Commons BUT re-uploaded to EN IF you can find where the image is from (it likely is not a "GNU" image) WhisperToMe (talk) 17:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This is all conspiratorial stuff. I have disputed your nomination for deletion.Phase4 (talk) 22:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

"An editor is of course entitled to challenge the copyright status of a Wikimedia Commons image. It is strange, however, that WhisperToMe tried surreptitiously to remove this image from the Pan Am Flight 103 article in the past few days. I am somewhat concerned about the editor's motives in regard to this image."

Let's see, what I actually did was replace one image with another... ONLY in the infobox. If you examined this edit, you would find that I only replaced one (not two) instance of Image:PA103cockpit4.jpg - After all, why repeat the same image twice ? It would make more sense to have one image in the infobox and one image outside.

However, we have one image that has a clear copyright status (Image:PA103cockpit4.png) and one that has no copyright status (Image:PA103cockpit4.jpg) - Why keep the latter on Commons) if we do not know the copyright status? Commons is only intended for GNU and public domain images. See, many Wikipedias ban Fair Use altogether, so Commons does not accept fair use. WhisperToMe (talk) 22:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You made three other edits to the Pan Am Flight 103 article on 25 November 2007. Can you explain why?Phase4 (talk) 22:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Explained - See the talk page :) WhisperToMe (talk) 23:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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 * The challenge "Just because Hebrew wiki may be in error, we should not be" is vitiated by Avi's use of the word "propogate", which as we all know does not exist. The challenge should therefore be withdrawn (with or without apologies).Phase4 (talk) 22:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL, spelling error fixed [[image:Face-smile.svg|25px]] -- Avi 16:27, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the typo.Phase4 19:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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 * Please see "Concerted attack by Deon Steyn and Socrates2008" section below. I'd be most grateful for your help in getting me unblocked.
 * Please also see Talk:Alternative theories of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103Phase4 (talk) 12:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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Why didn't Socrates2008 sign these warnings that administrator Arthur Rubin says were mistakenly placed on my user page? Please see the following section "Concerted attack by Deon Steyn and Socrates2008".Phase4 (talk) 12:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Because he forgot to. However the edit history clearly shows I posted them here, and a bot auto-signed them too.  13:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Concerted attack by Deon Steyn and Socrates2008
I should be grateful for administrator User:Arthur Rubin's views on the past week's aggressive concerted attack by Deon Steyn and Socrates2008 on the Alternative theories of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 article and its linked articles (including State-sponsored terrorism) which has somehow resulted in MY indefinite block from editing by Rlevse (see Conflict of interest/Noticeboard).

If blocking is appropriate, surely it ought to be Deon Steyn and Socrates2008 who should be prevented from editing.Phase4 (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

RFD: South Africa luggage swap theory
South Africa luggage swap theory is now listed at Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 December 24. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 13:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

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