User talk:Phein

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November 2022
Hello, I'm Julietdeltalima. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person   on Clarence Gilyard, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''I hope you understand that this requirement is for the protection of article subjects and their families against hoaxes, which are unfortunately all too common. There must be a published source from an organization with a reputation for fact-checking; a press release, or the word of a family member, is not enough. Please address further questions to editors at WP:TEAHOUSE. Thanks.  Julietdeltalima   (talk) '' 18:29, 29 November 2022 (UTC)


 * If a press release is not enough then why is everyone assuming, because the press release came out yesterday, that was his date of death? Phein (talk) 18:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We can't assume whether they're going on inference (which by the sounds of it is what has happened here) or went and confirmed the detail for themselves through a rep or family. E! News and People Magazine are making the assertions of his dying on Monday, which is what I was basing my edits around. I've removed the specific day from his page for now. We need to be able to use a published source/obituary notice that has the exact day noted in order to put in the 23rd, this is the primary reason you have been reverted. Rusted AutoParts  18:50, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Clarence Gilyard
If you really are a family member please provide a death certificate or an official obituary at legacy.com or somewhere. DrKilleMoff (talk) 19:02, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not good advice. Wikipedia needs a published source known for fact-checking. Hasn't Variety or The Hollywood Reporter or The New York Times reported on this? Those would be appropriate sources: they are periodicials with reputations for fact-checking. User:DrKilleMoff and User:Phein, I kindly recommend reviewing WP:RS in this light. I sense a great deal of frustration on the part of User:Phein, but, again, with a relatively prominent popular-culture figure, we cannot assume anyone who claims to be a family member actually is. This is for the protection of Mr. Gilyard's memory, among other considerations. Thank you. -  Julietdeltalima   (talk)  19:09, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Legacy has been used before as a source ans is compleyley legitimate as well as death certificates. DrKilleMoff (talk) 19:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Legacy by itself is more of an obituary aggregation website, it's reliable when it is uploading an obituary from a funeral home. Rusted AutoParts  21:10, 29 November 2022 (UTC)