User talk:PhilKnight/Archive101

A heads up at COI
Hi PhilKnight, I know you just unblocked one of these accounts, but I've opened a thread at the COI noticeboard which may be of interest. Cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:11, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Justlettersandnumbers • L235
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Bgwhite • HorsePunchKid • J Greb • KillerChihuahua • Rami R • Winhunter

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Cyberpower678 • Deryck Chan • Oshwah • Pharos • Ragesoss • Ritchie333

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Guerillero • NativeForeigner •  Snowolf • Xeno

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, the process for appointing interface administrators has been established. Currently only existing admins can request these rights, while a new RfC has begun on whether it should be available to non-admins.
 * There is an open request for comment on Meta regarding the creation a new user group for global edit filter management.

Technical news
 * Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
 * The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
 * Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
 * The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
 * Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
 * Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:13, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello PhilKnight
Hello User:PhilKnight, My account has been accused of sockpuppetry and i don't know why. Please look into the matter. Thanks ~Inked Soul~  ( talk  •  contribs ) 06:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello User:PhilKnight, Thank you for unblocking my account. I am very exited for posting my first article and would like to follow all guidelines and rules so that the article can stay up. I would like to know if you could maybe guide me a little so that everything goes well(ATAVLATIN (talk) 10:39, 14 March 2019 (UTC)).
 * I suggest you follow the advice of Your first article. PhilKnight (talk) 22:18, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Why?
I would give you a thanks for deleting baldi's basics page because not much wikipedians know about it,but do you actually know the game? many people like that game. :P i'm sorry if this offended you. - TheBendly — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBendly (talk • contribs) 22:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No sorry, I don't know the game. PhilKnight (talk) 20:17, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2018).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Sir Sputnik
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Kudpung • Liz • Lourdes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Everyking • Jackmcbarn

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Dinoguy1000

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg AGK • Ivanvector • Stwalkerster • TonyBallioni

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Amorymeltzer • Oshwah • TonyBallioni • Vanamonde93
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Keilana

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment determined that non-administrators will not be able to request interface admin access.
 * A request for comment is in progress to determine whether the Mediation Committee should be closed and marked as historical.
 * A village pump discussion has been ongoing about whether the proposed deletion policy (PROD) should be clarified or amended.
 * A request for comment is in progress to determine whether pending changes protection should be applied automatically to today's featured article (TFA) in order to mitigate a recent trend of severe image vandalism.

Technical news
 * Partial blocks is now available for testing on the Test Wikipedia. The new functionality allows you to block users from editing specific pages. Bugs may exist and can be reported on the local talk page or on Meta. A discussion regarding deployment to English Wikipedia will be started by community liaisons sometime in the near future.
 * A user script is now available to quickly review unblock requests.
 * The 2019 Community Wishlist Survey is now accepting new proposals until November 11, 2018. The results of this survey will determine what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year. Voting on the proposals will take place from November 16 to November 30, 2018. Specifically, there is a proposal category for admins and stewards that may be of interest.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors will be invited to nominate themselves as candidates in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections starting on November 4 until November 13. Voting will begin on November 19 and last until December 2.
 * The Arbitration Committee's email address has changed to arbcom-en@wikimedia.org. Other email lists, such as functionaries-en and clerks-l, remain unchanged.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Antisemitic canard page hijacking
appears to be hijacking the page and has moved it to  The pages move history is getting convoluted. Cheers Jim1138 talk 09:13, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. PhilKnight (talk) 11:46, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Proposed low-bandwidth editing app
May I ask your views on a proposal for a low-bandwidth editing app which I made in the Community Wishlist Survey? The app is for editing wikis over slow or expensive internet connections. You're listed as a member of WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Global perspective, and it seems as if you might have relevant knowledge. The deadline for changes to the proposal is the 16th of November. Thank you for your time. HLHJ (talk) 22:21, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Al Ameer son • Randykitty • Spartaz
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Boson • Daniel J. Leivick • Efe • Esanchez7587 • Fred Bauder • Garzo • Martijn Hoekstra • Orangemike

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svgk Chan

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
 * A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
 * A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
 * A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.

Technical news
 * Administrators and bureaucrats can no longer unblock themselves unless they placed the block initially. This change has been implemented globally. See also this ongoing village pump discussion (permalink).
 * To complement the aforementioned change, blocked administrators will soon have the ability to block the administrator that placed their block to mitigate the possibility of a compromised administrator account blocking all other active administrators.
 * Since deployment of Partial blocks on Test Wikipedia, several bugs were identified. Most of them are now fixed. Administrators are encouraged to test the new deployment and report new bugs on Phabricator or leave feedback on the Project's talk page. You can request administrator access on the Test Wiki here.

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 3 December 2018. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous
 * In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
 * Wikipedia policy requires administrators to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.

Obituaries
 * (Raymond Arritt) passed away on 14 November 2018. Boris joined Wikipedia as on 8 May 2006 and was an administrator from 30 July 2007 to 2 June 2008.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Home Lander (talk) 23:29, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year, PhilKnight!


Happy New Year! PhilKnight, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

Donner60 (talk) 07:35, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Galobtter
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Orangemike
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg BorgQueen •  Davidruben • Ocee • Revolving Bugbear • Theda • There'sNoTime • Timc • Tijuana Brass • Tristessa de St Ange

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Addshore



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Joe Roe • SilkTork
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg AGK • Joe Roe • SilkTork
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Guideline and policy news
 * There are a number of new or changed speedy deletion criteria, each previously part of WP:CSD:
 * G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is db-disambig; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
 * R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion).  This is db-redircom; the text is unchanged.
 * G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use db-blankdraft.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
 * Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.

Technical news
 * Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length . All accounts must have a password:
 * At least 8 characters in length
 * Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the [//github.com/wikimedia/password-blacklist Password Blacklist library])
 * Different from their username
 * User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
 * Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
 * Copyvio-revdel now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.

Arbitration
 * Following the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee:, , , , ,.

Miscellaneous
 * Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
 * Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi PhilKnight! I wanted to apologize for the delay responding to your ping on the user's talk page regarding the unblocking of the account. It looks like you managed to get everything sorted out, but just know for the record that I won't be offended if you undo an admin action that I took earlier; no need to ask me for permission first. Just let me know that you did so and why is all I ask, just so I know about it. Other than that, if it benefits the project or if you believe the user can be unblocked - have at it! Doesn't bother me! :-) Cheers -  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:08, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Oshwah, thanks for your note. PhilKnight (talk) 21:10, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Enterprisey • JJMC89
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg BorgQueen
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Harro5 • Jenks24 • Graft • R. Baley

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svgprisey

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment is currently open to reevaluate the activity requirements for administrators.
 * Administrators who are blocked have the technical ability to block the administrator who blocked their own account. A recent request for comment has amended the blocking policy to clarify that this ability should only be used in exceptional circumstances, such as account compromises, where there is a clear and immediate need.
 * A request for comment closed with a consensus in favor of deprecating The Sun as a permissible reference, and creating an edit filter to warn users who attempt to cite it.

Technical news
 * A discussion regarding an overhaul of the format and appearance of Requests for page protection is in progress (permalink). The proposed changes will make it easier to create requests for those who are not using Twinkle. The workflow for administrators at this venue will largely be unchanged. Additionally, there are plans to archive requests similar to how it is done at WP:PERM, where historical records are kept so that prior requests can more easily be searched for.

Miscellaneous
 * Voting in the 2019 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2019, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2019, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
 * A new IRC bot is available that allows you to subscribe to notifications when specific filters are tripped. This requires that your IRC handle be identified.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Suppress edit
Hello, are you able to suppress an edit done by another editor? this edit contains the supposed phone numbers of a model, and that's a bit too personal/promotional. If you are not able to, where might I report such a request? Thanks. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:19, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. PhilKnight (talk) 02:21, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Zinnober9 (talk) 02:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Logo montrail.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Logo montrail.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 03:40, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Bemben17
Thanks for cleaning that chaos up. They seem to be evading the block at 31.0.66.47, though. Best, Wham2001 (talk) 22:27, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, and 46.7.231.125. I'm going to leave it to you, it's late here... Wham2001 (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've blocked both IPs. PhilKnight (talk) 22:44, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

IP block
Thank you, can you also block the IP they hopped to. Thanx, -  FlightTime Phone  ( open channel ) 20:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)


 * NVRMND, thanx. -  FlightTime Phone  ( open channel ) 20:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Francois bon.jpeg removal
Hello, Why did you remove the file? I tried to comply to everything which was required in both the file page and my talk page, but still the file was removed without anymore warnings.

The policy for applying fair use on files is extremely complex to understand and use (I know that you are not the one who created it). Even if you try to comply with it, it is very easy to fail. In my case I still don't know what was incorrect in the last version of the file page. For example some file pages I tried to look at to understand what I had to do had much less informations compared to this page, but they are still there. I'm not saying that they should not be removed, but it is almost impossible to understand the correct approach for fair use Hervegirod (talk) 20:48, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Hervegirod, the image depicted a living person, and so was replaceable with a free image. PhilKnight (talk) 20:56, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Admitting
I want to come clean, I am CaptainDanger25, I use to have Mayme08 then later became known as FetchFan21, 1mikie19, MikeySalinas17 are my accounts along with Bigteddy after my ip changed from the BeeBliss16, ip block for 3 years. Here are my other ip's.

These included Those are some of my Ip's. I have also created many accounts I also have used ip's that are blocked 2600:1700:8FC0:8C30:7557:F38A:233F:F9BA
 * 72.178.214.79
 * 2605:6000:A507:A300:795F:B003:F097:D073
 * 2605:6000:A507:A300:E9A5:4697:CC9F:40CE
 * 24.170.90.146

Once again, I am sorry and thought I want to come forward. I have also submitted many sock cases in order to set up admins — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.255.3.108 (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Evad37
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg There'sNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Alex Shih • Brian • Mushroom • Nakon • Oscarthecat • PeruvianLlama • Ragib • Reaper Eternal • Rossami • Tom

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Evad37 • Galobtter
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ritchie333



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg There'sNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Keegan • Ks0stm

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg There'sNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ks0stm • Sphilbrick

Guideline and policy news
 * The RfC on administrator activity requirements failed to reach consensus for any proposal.
 * Following discussions at the Bureaucrats' noticeboard and Wikipedia talk:Administrators, an earlier change to the restoration of adminship policy was reverted. If requested, bureaucrats will not restore administrator permissions removed due to inactivity if there have been five years without a logged administrator action; this "five year rule" does not apply to permissions removed voluntarily.

Technical news
 * A new tool is available to help determine if a given IP is an open proxy/VPN/webhost/compromised host.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
 *  has been set up to receive private evidence related to abusive paid editing.
 *  has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.

Miscellaneous
 * Following the 2019 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Base, Einsbor, Jon Kolbert, Schniggendiller, and Wim b.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Immabacklosers
Hi Phil, you blocked Special:Contributions/Immabacklosers for block evasion a few days ago. Now, Special:Contributions/71.203.46.85 is making similar edits to the same or similar articles. I don't know who the master is, or I'd try to make a SPI report. Can you look into this? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Now using Special:Contributions/2601:703:200:F9A:B09E:AC11:E7B1:22B8. Both IPs locate to the same area. - BilCat (talk) 21:53, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi BilCat, I've blocked the IPs. PhilKnight (talk) 22:07, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 22:08, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi again, Phil, see Special:Contributions/HenriquePT for similar airliner photo changes by a registered users with only a few edits. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 18:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi BilCat, I've blocked the account. PhilKnight (talk) 21:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Special:Contributions/71.203.46.85 is back. - BilCat (talk) 18:13, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi BilCat. I've re-blocked the IP. PhilKnight (talk) 20:43, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Mail
Struway2 (talk) 21:55, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Struway2 (talk) 09:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Iamthebestuk
Bad timing?

just declined my AIV report. Adam9007 (talk) 17:26, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Either way is fine with me. No worries. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:27, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * My mistake - I've unblocked. PhilKnight (talk) 17:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Reaper Eternal • ThaddeusB
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Bogdangiusca • Christopher Parham • Necrothesp • Schneelocke • Siroxo • Sarah
 * Pictogram voting rename.png →

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Mr. Stradivarius

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg DeltaQuad
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Kingturtle

Technical news
 * In Special:Preferences under "Appearance" → "Advanced options", there is now an option to show a confirmation prompt when clicking on a rollback link.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Please see meta:Community health initiative/User reporting system consultation 2019 to provide your input on this idea.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee clarified that the General 1RR prohibition for Palestine-Israel articles may only be enforced on pages with the ARBPIA 1RR editnotice edit notice.

Miscellaneous
 * Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
 * As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Question
What was the reason for these two edits? 51.7.34.203 (talk) 11:17, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Simple really. I made a mistake. PhilKnight (talk) 11:19, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. Just wondered. It seemed to be in some way related to an insulting and totally spurious accusation of vandalism by User:BabbaQ. 51.7.34.203 (talk) 14:16, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * IP drop the stick while you are ahead. I will go my way, I recommend you do the same. Your edit at my talk page has been reverted both by me and another user independetly from each other, for a reason. Regards.BabbaQ (talk) 14:40, 30 April 2019 (UTC)