User talk:Phil Copperman

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Reviewing pending changes
Hello, Phil Copperman! Excuse me for popping in out of the blue, but something in your request for the PC reviewer bit caught my eye: “… on 50/50s it is required that the reviewing editor do some fact-checking ….” In fact this is not part of a reviewer’s mandate per se. Articles are placed under PC protection when they become targets for harmful anonymous edits, so the review process is directed at vandalism and other policy violations; reviewers are not expected to be knowledgeable about the content. If you question the veracity, sourcing, or appropriateness of an inoffensive edit that appears to be made with helpful intent, the more power to you if you follow it up—but this is in the role of an ordinary editor, so rather than rejecting the edit through the review interface you should undo or modify it in the ordinary way, with an explanatory edit summary. Please give WP:RVW a careful reading before applying again; with a longer ‘track record’ and a request that shows a good understanding of this guideline (among others), I expect you‘ll be accepted next time.—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  04:04, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the confidence, and for the advice. I basically cited the 50/50 business purely out of the need to produce some type of quality presentation when applying. Naturally fact-checking of recent edits never hurts anyhow even when not using tools, I was talking more the need to be careful when accepting a pending revision: factually incorrect information might just be real-life trolling or sneakier vandalism. Of course the standard procedure in uncertainty is, leave it!. After all, nobody knows you checked it! :) But thanks for all of the advice. The next time I apply I will have completed far more edits. --Phil Copperman (talk) 18:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
 Dewritech (talk)  18:17, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
Hello Phil,

Currently working on reverting vandalism; though I appreciate your commitment to policy. This user has a history of such thing. Currently appears to be removing references to the holocaust in this particular article. Has been reported for AIV. --PureRED (talk) 18:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It looked like content dispute, but the addition of "SHILL" is evidently nonconstructive. Sorry about that PureRED. Carry on! --Phil Copperman (talk) 18:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

ANI
Dear Phil, I notice that having accused me on my talkpage of misusing Rollback you then accused  of the same, but you made that latter accusation at ANI. I thought you were supposed to warn editors if you mention them at ANI? It seems to me that by making the claim, you did mention Ghmyrtle, but I don't see where you notified them of this. Never mind, rather overtaken by events anyway; plus I was probably wrong about the mechanics of notification. Sorry. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:15  15:55, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No worry. I am guessing the editor was more problematic than was originally realised. But there was some misinterpretation somewhere down the line. His disciplinary proceedings are down to the admins, whereas in your case, just move forward and keep an eye on things. Thanks for the good contributions. --Phil Copperman (talk) 19:31, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Edited to strike all my comments above - all overtaken by events DBaK (talk) 13:20, 26 May 2015 (UTC)