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DYK for Spy Princess
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DYK for Collingham Gardens
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Speedy deletion nomination of Epigenticist
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DYK for Trevor Hill (producer)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 18:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Patsy Pulitzer
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DYK for Indira Devi of Kapurthala
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Charing Cross Trunk Murder
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

"Kingdom of Enclava" listed at Redirects for discussion
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BBC broadcasters
Any chance on an image for Venu Chitale ?? please Whispyhistory (talk) 20:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you ... sorry to bother... how long do I have to dyk it... it still needs a lot of work. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:49, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You can nominate it under 5x expansion starting 21 August so you have plenty of time. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:53, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, fortunately a bank holiday may help. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Francois Balloux


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Not notable. kencf0618 (talk) 12:04, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you kindly. You spotted her and did most of the work. It just shows how much there still is to do. Far more than has already been done. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:17, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I would have never spotted her without your hint. Her mother is just as interesting ... her autobiography reveals much about herself, her daughter and several other princesses... FYI... Indira never wanted to extract finances from her family. She wanted to earn it herself and declined financial help from them (according to her mothers autobiography)..:) Whispyhistory (talk) 18:39, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I would like to see more about her personal life. Were there men or did she prefer women? Why did she move to Spain and her life there. She obviously had a somewhat exciting personal life judging from the drugs she took. Of course, we may never know. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The judge bought her explanation and requested that her trouble not be further influencing. Until someone writes about the rest.. it will remain secret, although it is very obvious. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think we will know. Her mother saw herself in Indira...did manage to perform in theatre and and nearly didn't marry the Punjabi prince, as she was in love with a blue eyed blonde French man who sadly died in WWI..Whispyhistory (talk) 18:54, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * What is "very obvious"? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:07, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for John Jarvis-Smith
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
One of your kind donations at the London Wiki meet-up, Côte d'Azur: inventing the French Riviera, has produced its first article, E. Virgil Neal. DYK possibilities abound. Edwardx (talk) 11:32, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Nearly missed your message - overshadowed by the idiocy below. Nice article. I am now regretting not keeping the book but I am sure you will mine it thoroughly. Pity it is too late to start a patent medicine cure-all business. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Was he a Euen? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * He seemingly did enjoy reinventing himself, but aged 1 in the 1870 census (and elsewhere), he was a Ewing. Edwardx (talk) 22:40, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * That was a fraudulent find and it would be good to see the book... well done. I found this image for Bhicoo Batlivala... is it usable? On the topic of books, you may both like Trevor Hill's Over the Airwaves, I think. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I will endeavour to pass the Riviera book on at a future London meet-up. As for Trevor Hill, I think it is lovely that he gets a wiki page while he's still with us at the ripe old age of 96. Of course, not everyone would want one. For example, Achilleas Kallakis. I was reading that on mobile yesterday outside his former home, 31 Brompton Square, having completely forgotten that we wrote it. Edwardx (talk) 19:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting and scary... anyway Hill should be classed as a National Treasure... simply delightful and witty. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I often find myself unknowingly reading my own work and getting a sense of déjà vu. The photograph is by Alexander "Sasha" Stewart (1898-1953) so we have to wait a little. I note she is described as an actress. Also, barristers only wear their wigs in court, never outside, unless posing for pictures. I knew one who had his wig stolen from the robing room, presumably by another barrister. They are made of horse hair and very expensive. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:28, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * They will typically buy only one during their entire career - so it's easy to spot those who are newly-called, because they have clean wigs. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 11:15, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Is that why they sometimes steal old ones ... to make themselves look more experienced? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:38, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You all may be interested in a book of curiosities Whispyhistory (talk) 17:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Members of the bar seem to have evaded the "swarms of French hair-dressers" referred to on page 785. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:26, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Batlivala has an obituary The Times (1983)... probably around mid-October. Do any of you have access to it? Whispyhistory (talk) 07:09, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of John Truss for deletion
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DYK for Walter E. H. Cockle
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Henry Graves
Hello... a question? Can an image of a print by Henry Graves (printseller and publisher) published in a newspaper in 1924 (UK) be used? Its for a painting. If you or others know how to access the Times archives, that would also be helpful? Whispyhistory (talk) 15:38, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If it's simply a reproduction of another work then it depends on the copyright status of that work. As Chandor is not 70 years dead it won't be able to go on Commons as it will still be in copyright. Fair use may be possible on Wikipedia. You can access The Times archive through the Wellcome Library and numerous others. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Douglas Chandor
Struggling to come up with a good hook for Douglas Chandor. Maybe he painted Roosevelt and Churchill, but Stalin refused. Or something about his garden. His father John Arthur Chandor has an obvious hook around "an adventurer of the most dangerous character", an "inveterate liar", and a "scoundrel in money matters", but the article needs more and better sources before even thinking about DYK. Edwardx (talk) 11:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Good article. Tricky as he wasn't at Yalta. DYK that Douglas Chandor wanted to paint Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin at the Yalta Conference but Stalin refused to co-operate? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:02, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ALT ...that Churchill and Roosevelt sat for portraits by Douglas Chandor, but Joseph Stalin refused? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I like the ALT. I am into the whole brevity thing. Edwardx (talk) 13:04, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Cool. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:06, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * and P...Are any of these any good ? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:54, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The second says the painting of Stalin couldn't be done because of the turn of world events, The third that Chandor was commissioned to do all three but couldn't get to Moscow before he died. Are we sure Stalin "refused"? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you Whispyhistory and Philafrenzy. Chandor died 13 January 1953, and Stalin on 5 March 1953. Will have to study the sources carefully. Perhaps "but never made it to Moscow to paint Joseph Stalin?" That much is true. Edwardx (talk) 20:20, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ... Some primary sources say he was born in South Croydon, as he says in the passenger list to New York 1927, but others eg 1939 Eng & Wales census he gives it as Warlingham, Surrey. I know the road where he lived. It may have sounded more well-to-do to be from Surrey ...IDK. Also may be a nice tribute for dyk... he did the first painted portrait of Elizabeth II following her accession. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will look into Croydon/Warlingham. Perahps South Croydon was the registration district? According to my passport, I was born somewhere nearly as grim as Croydon, even though I was actually born in a nearby village. Have added your fine Elizabeth II hook as an ALT1. Can we use the 1952 portrait in the hook? Edwardx (talk) 21:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed, distinguish the registration district in official sources from the real place of birth that people use on manifests etc. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Did she sit for it? If yes it is the best hook. If no and he just used a photograph to copy then it means nothing. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:58, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes! Have just added some sourcing that confirms she sat for it. Edwardx (talk) 22:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It should have a fair use image. He has not been dead 70 years so it can't be used in the hook. BTW the Eleanor Roosevelt picture almost certainly has the wrong licence. Paintings don't have "copyright notices". Philafrenzy (talk) 22:23, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 70 years in January, but the Queen won't be such big news then. Would be a nice hook for the day of her funeral. Edwardx (talk) 22:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for E. Virgil Neal
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Bhicoo Batlivala
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:20, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Douglas Chandor
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Books & Bytes – Issue 52
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DYK for R. H. Rodgers
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DYK for Wesley Tann
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Disambiguation
Hello... have I done this incorrectly please... not done one before? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:00, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It's ok, but you are supposed to put the years afterward and then a comma and what they did. See the others in the category if you can sita at your computer any longer. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:09, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly. Any better? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly. That sitas a lot better with me. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This Sita appears very different to this Sita... do I need to clarify it somehow at the top of each article so people are not confused with the two as I have seen on several websites? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:38, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a sitauation that must be rectified. Put a hat note as I did with Alfred and Alfredo Frohlich. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:47, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly. Please correct it if not done right. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:53, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well you have only done one of them? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:35, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * done the other but probably not in right place. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:15, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * They are both sitting pretty in the article. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:19, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Who is Andre Durst please? Whispyhistory (talk) 05:49, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Inter-war fashion photographer for French Vogue. Looks notable. See this. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:52, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that source... I just saw he has an article on French Wikipedia. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't notice you were contributing to Gray. Keep going if you have more. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * He is a bit of a challenge... which is good .. yes ?? Whispyhistory (talk) 20:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course. Whole thing came from a brief mention in the Antiques Trade Gazette, as did Hermann Marx. In my experience, collectors of expensive objects are often notable in some other field. Anders Cull, who I thought non-notable, turns out to have formed a pre-eminent collection of Chinese bronzes. Not to mention collectors of Sooty stamps who are a breed apart. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:28, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Is there a notable Sooty stamp collector? fyi... I have never seen a Sooty stamp. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:35, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The Royal Mail issued one in 1996, as part of a set for the 50th anniversary of Children's Television. Stanley Gibbons cat. no. 1941 is what to ask for at your local philatelic retailer. Or StampWorld cat. no. 1633. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 19:05, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Correct, but why did they omit Sue and Sweep. I always think of Sooty and Sweep, never just Sooty. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:17, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks Redrose64... May be they were controversial Philafrenzy. Trevor Hill's biography gives an excellent account of Sweep and Sue issues. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:32, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I will rectify that soon. Improvised PPE in 1913 looks better than what some had here recently. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:56, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually looks similar. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:10, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * But they had little to go on. I see a doctor who refused to wear a mask died as a result. How did he think it was transmitted? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:59, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This pandemic lasted from 1855 to 1960. (ref looks dubious) Philafrenzy (talk) 20:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Had a look... I don't know what some of those references are. Figuring out facts and citations there is like playing wordle... Whispyhistory (talk) 04:55, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Hermann Marx
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DYK for Sari-inspired dress
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DYK for George Douglas Gray
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Pigs in blankets
Now you know what to offer to bring to Christmas dinner this year. :D Valereee (talk) 14:31, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. BTW, you were right that they are definitely not kosher. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:43, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll work on some heart treatments you may need if you start eating them. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I will donate mine to the people of Stoccareddo. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * References need checking over there... Whispyhistory (talk) 16:43, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Sydney Domville Rowland
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DYK for Hickson Inc.
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DYK for Venu Chitale
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DYK for Sydney Simmons
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DYK for Alfredo Frohlich
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DYK for Hesper Mews
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Nomination of Vern Miyagi for deletion
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Books & Bytes – Issue 53
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