User talk:Philcha/Archive 9

Ostroumov on Mollusca
You wrote in an edit summary: 'now you reverted what seems a good source' - It's a highly specific article on the effect of a particular chemical on filtration activity. It is not a good article for further reading for people who are interested in general info on molluscs. In addition User:Mytilus, who added the paper, appears to have a conflict of interest with respect to the paper's author, Ostroumov. - MrOllie (talk)


 * It's only in "Further reading". I'd look harder if I were going to use it at for a citation.
 * If the publisher has management that is independent of Ostroumov, it would qualify as a RS.
 * A chemical that inhibits filtration in molluscs looks important. --Philcha (talk) 22:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm with MrOllie here. (Apologies incidentally for a malformed edit - not sure what happened there - the intention was simply to remove the link.) Even if this wasn't reference spam, which it strongly appears to be, it is certainly research which Wikipedia is not. I see no evidence for re-quotation in the scientific press of corroboration elsewhere. I strongly suggest the link goes  Velela  Velela Talk  20:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


 * As I said at 22:51, 16 July 2010, the source seems to qualify as a RS since the publisher has management that is independent of Ostroumov. IMO excluding the source per se would be WP:POV, as there's no evidence that casts doubt on Ostroumov's source. If there were a contrary article and/or a criticism from a RS, one could then say say that the issue was disputed. If there were a few articles and/or criticisms, Ostroumov's source would be in the minority or even refuted. --Philcha (talk) 22:24, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Long-term abuse report on Consist
The long-term abuse project is currently being revamped and integrated with the abuse response project to provide a more effective and centralized project to effectively counter long-term vandalism. As part of this cleanup, old inactive reports are being deleted. I see that you created on report on User:Consist back in November 2008, but from what I can see, this user is no longer active. Could you verify that he is no longer active so we can delete the report? Or, if he still is, please help us update the report. Thanks. Netalarm talk 13:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll respond at Long-term abuse report on Consist as others may also want to comment. --Philcha (talk) 14:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem =D. Netalarm talk 14:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Visionholder
Not sure if this was meant to be directed at me or someone else, but either way, complaining about discourteousness while backhandedly calling other editors "bastards" is not the way to solve problems. If you have an issue with an editor's behaviour, please speak to them directly. Have a nice day. --erachima talk 02:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * How amusing. "don't let the bastards wear you down" is a well-known UK idiom. Perhaps you could find how many USA cultures and dialects there in the USA. --Philcha (talk) 03:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm quite curious as to how "don't let the bastards wear you down" qualifies as an idiom, given that it is a perfectly understandable English phrase, albeit one which contains the idiom "wear you down". Perhaps you were thinking of the word motto? Regardless, a phrase to be cautious in using due to the potential to come across as uncivil.
 * Grammatical quibbling aside though, I see nothing untoward about this statement, nor about politely asking a user to change their signature when it is contrary to the relevant guideline in multiple respects. Explain your concerns, please. --erachima talk 04:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I suggest we both abandon this conversation, as we both can probably find more uses of our time. --Philcha (talk) 06:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Main Page article
Congrats on Noronha skink making it to Main Page FA. All that hard work of yours paid off. AshLin (talk) 04:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

4X page re: Civilization and overruling by the senate
There's an html copy of the Civilization manual at civfanatics, not sure about the original publication information of the Civilization manual. But the relevant statements are at http://www.civfanatics.com/civ1/manual/civ1_man.htm#3d

98.206.218.218 (talk) 01:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

edit: whoops, disregard the second part re: grammar. 98.206.218.218 (talk) 01:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm afraid this copy of the Civilization manual can't be used - see V -Philcha (talk) 03:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Unbelievable numbers
Fangorn-Y (talk) 17:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC) Hello! I'd like to speak about my deleting of some statements in the article "Microbial mat".

At it's talk page two editors already wrote their disagreement:

"They colonize environments ranging in altitude from 10 km above sea level to more than 20 km below the surface of the oceans and as much as 30 km below the surfaces of rocks and sediments, and in temperature from from –40°C to +120°C."

Highest mountain is less than 9 km high. Do microbial mats fly?

Deepest ocean trench is some 11 km deep.

Kola Superdeep Borehole was about 12 km deep. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.232.200.115 (talk) 17:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

There's still no land anywhere on earth ten kilometres up. Someone is going to have to fix these numbers.Punkrockrunner (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)punkrockrunner

Therefore those numbers are impossible. There is no abundant life buried deep under rocks, or flying in high troposphere. Even if such life can survive without food sources, at temperature ~1000 K (at 25 km deep), we would not be able to research such deep rocks.

The estimations of total biomass of mats also are unbelievable. Photosynthetic microbial mats are restricted now to very specific conditions and very rare - that is good described in this article, and in article Stromatolite. Ocean floor is very "soft" and is not covered any films. But even if whole Earth is full covered by biofilms, these films would not be able to have such mass. Total biomass of known, "eucariotic" organisms is about 2•1012 tonns. If mats are "thin coatings of 99% organic matter", their mass would be >2•1014 tonns. Earth surface is 5•1014 m2. Thus thickness of such "film", covered ALL Earth, would have to be >40 cm!

Therefore these numbers are IMPOSSIBLE and must be deleted, even if they are written in "reliable" books. I don't know what observations these numbers appear from. Maybe the authors mixed mass of biogenic matter (limestones, coal, oxygen :) and mass of living matter (organisms)??

I think such impossible numbers must be excluded from all articles of Wikipedia, even if they have "reliable" sourced and citations (maybe except citations by world-known scientists). If other editors disagree me, let them explain please how such numbers were calculated!

Kimberella
Hello Philcha! I have noticed that you want to perfect the article about Kimberella. I think this article can be interesting and useful for you. http://vendian.net76.net/Ivantsov_2009_Kimberella.pdf

I gradually (about half a year) compound the scheme “Oldest occurrences of skeletal fossils of some groups of Metazons” on the base of reliable firsthands and some personal researches (Vendian traces and tubes). I do not trust the generalizing publications; they are full of errors, speculations, a juggling of facts (conscious and casual), and ignorance of modern information... Possible, it too will be interesting for you. http://vendian.net76.net/scheme.jpg

Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 13:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC))


 * Hi, Aleksey. New Reconstruction of Kimberella, Problematic Vendian Metazoan is excellent. I'm busy at present, would you be able to do the update. Then I'll check things like English phrases. --Philcha (talk) 14:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Presently, I have no time to do this. Tomorrow I again go to excavations of the Vendian traces and tubes fossils. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 14:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC))


 * And I think Martin is also busy at present. --Philcha (talk) 15:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Awards I have given

 * The Invisible Barnstar to Dispenser - 06:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The Tireless Contributor Barnstar to Stemonitis - 16:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Barnstar of Diligence to NYMFan69-86 - 23:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Guidance Barnstar to JimmyButler - 22:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * InvisibleBarnstar to SunCreator - 17:43, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The Cleanup Barnstar to Rjwilmsi - 15:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar to Visionholder - 22:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The Barnstar of Integrity to Teancum - 01:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The Good Friend Award to Malleus Fatuorum - 07:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The Good Friend Award to Geometry guy - 07:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The Good Friend Award to Mattisse - 07:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The Reviewers Award to hamiltonstone - 07:07, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The Barnstar of Peace to Ottava Rima - 16:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Bio-Star to Rusty Cashman - 12:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Bio-Star to dave souza - 12:03, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Good Article Reviewer's Barnstar to Mattisse - 09:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The Cleanup Barnstar to Michael Devore - 12:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The Mensch's Barnstar to TimVickers - 19:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 *  The Barnstar of Peace to SyG - 22:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 *  The Barnstar of Diligence to SyG - 19:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 *  The Working Man's Barnstar to Quale - 11:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Joe Diffie peer review
What kind of table are you suggesting? I don't usually see tables in musical BLPs beyond what's already there: a summary of his discography and an awards table. I've looked all over and confirmed that those are his only awards/nominations. I checked Flickr to see if I could find another usable photo of him to break up the text, but no luck. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, TenPoundHammer. A tabe for chronology, with year and event in each row. For example there's one in Dragon's Egg, in seconds because 1 race lived 1M times faster than the other. --Philcha (talk) 20:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What? I have never seen a musical BLP with a timeline like that denoting events in a musician's or band's career. I checked a whole bunch of musical GAs and FAs and the only time they use timelines is if it's a band that's had a lot of membership changes. Can you show me one musical BLP GA/FA that uses such a timeline? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * We agreed at the start that you could with my comments. One last try then I really will shut about this - to me it looks very like a band that's had a lot of membership changes. --Philcha (talk) 05:35, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've addressed everything else in your peer review. Don't know if you have it watchlisted or not. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 23:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've watchlisted the article and review - I should clean up my watchlist more often. :-) Let's go on with the review. --Philcha (talk) 05:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for being much more thorough this time. I'm working on some of the issues you've brought up right now. As for his place of birth, the majority of sources say Tulsa, including Allmusic's sidebar, the Whitburn book and the Opry profile. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, TenPoundHammer. I think my work is done - while you're continues, since you need to get the article 100% in terms WP:WIAGA before nominating. However, please call me if you want occasional little bit of help. --Philcha (talk) 06:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. I won't be able to do much today because my Internet provider is down right now (had to use a friend's wireless). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 00:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Diagram of sponge body types
I am in the process of writing a zoology lab manual and would like to obtain permission to use your sponge body types diagram. What do you say? 74.128.208.126 (talk) 04:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

New to this so I don't know if my first message posted or not. I'm writing a zoology lab manual and need a diagram of sponge body types. Found a diagram of sponge body types that you posted on Wikipedia. I would like permission to use this diagram. What do you say? ACS557 (talk) 04:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Go ahead. And if you and/or your colleagues/friends get interesting in contributing to Wikipedia, send a message to this Talk page - I know ways to make the early stages easier. --Philcha (talk) 06:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

North Sea
 has smiled at you! Thank you for taking the time to review the North Sea, your comments have both helped the article to come along, and have increased my understanding of how to edit an already started article. Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Γειά!
Σε ευχαριστώ! I don't speack Greek really, but, I studied Koine Greek. Thanks for signing though. And a favor, can you review Trombiculidae?

WP:Areas for Reform
Last week i left a message about this. I recognize you simply may not care. But since then a range of editors have been working on it, and so far with no personal conflict. I was hoping I could get you to check it out. You care about good content, and policies, so perhaps you can make a constructive contribution here? Slrubenstein  |  Talk

Steinitz revert
You are aware you reverted to wrong info version, you allowed wrong info, I already explained same issue on buba73's page,   why is it so hard to think before  rv? Try it sometimes, it will be nice, keep article accurate!

Morphy world champion 1858-1860
I've been following your comments on anderssen page, it's safe to say Morphy played in 1860:
 * http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?page=15&pid=16002&eresult=
 * if kolisch did not play anderssen, due to retirement or not, morphy remains champ until somebody plays anderssen, second best player in the world, now number one for many more years.

Main interests that are relevant to Wikipedia
(the first 4 since I was a kid)
 * Paleontology (strictly armchair)
 * Space travel (armchair, alas!)
 * Chess (also armchair, since I wasn't good enough to make a living out of it)
 * Science fiction (one day I must write some).
 * Computers (I've worked with them for long enough).
 * Computer games, especially Turn Based Strategy and Real-time strategy games.

DYK masjid al darir
hi, in the article, i have mentioned that the mosque is located at quba, and it is not the mosque mentioned the the black stone article.

Plants Vs. Zompies
Plants Vs. Zompies "An addictive casual/strategy game, Plants vs Zombies forces players to defend their houses---and their brains---from wave after wave of an undead invasion. The zombies are hungry for brains, and they attack ... Difficulty: Moderately Easy"

I need top sources for a GA. Your block it very difficulty to prevens a GA --Philcha

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Spiders + Redundancy
Hi Philcha,

great to see that people are working on the spider section of Wikipedia these days! I put a lot of effort into it some years ago, but couldn't find the time in the last years.

The species lists in genus pages are almost always taken from Platnick's WSC (Source given at end of article). I see that you have done some great work, but am worried a bit about redundancy; you're very often putting very generic information into very specific articles (eg. general spider anatomy into species articles); I don't think this can scale, because then in the end you'd have to duplicate these infos in all 40,000 species articles (once they're there ;). Much better to put only the information pertaining to a single species on its species page, only put information specific to a genus on the genus page, and let people interested about general spider anatomy visit the Spider page. Keep up the great work! :) --Sarefo (talk) 09:17, 2 June 2012 (UTC)