User talk:Philg88/Archive 17

Duke Jing of Jin
Hi. Looking at the Duke Jing of Jin article, I see a broken link; rather an absent link. The note at the bottom “Modern day Tunliu County in Shanxi Province” is not linked from anywhere in the article with a footnote. This is a common problem with the cref2/cnote2 and similar templates that don't use cite.php (which is what drives the usual ref tags). Please see these edits to and. I've updated them to use efn and notes which are a better method of doing explanatory notes. They generated refs tags and will complain if a note is defined but not used, just like with ref tags (other way, too; used but undefined). I can't fix Duke Jing of Jin because I'm not sure where to put the footnote in the prose. The notes section would look like this:

with  placed at the appropriate spot in the article (with "place name" best changed to something more apt). I'm thinking this will be trivial for you, so thanks. Alarbus (talk) 08:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Your edit to Hainan
endemic, restricted or peculiar to a locality or region

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/endemic

Just FYI. --Seduisant (talk) 19:58, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, dictionary I used thought differently :) ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 07:18, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Easy coords
Hi. Long time. I saw this. There's an easy way:

When you "what's here" at google maps, and it gives you, say 19.983964,110.329278 you can just copy it, double click the zeros to highlight, and paste in the 19.983964,110.329278 Then, all you need to do is swap the comma for a | easy. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:06, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Could use some coords here: Haitang Bay.

Also, if you have a picture of Phoenix Island, let me know. Google maps show that it sure has developed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Long time indeed :) I am in the old country so if you need anything done that circumvents the GFW let me know.


 * For coords I found this site that gives the decimals - quite cool really.


 * I have no pics of Phoenix Island but when I was there last year it had really developed - most of the "gherkin" was complete.


 * Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 15:29, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hainan related questions
Hello, my friend. A couple of things:


 * Looking for official websites for: Hainan Exhibition & Convention Center and Haikou Great Hall of the People
 * Is this Hainan Television? If not, what is it, and how does it fit into the scheme of things?
 * Talk:China National Highway 098
 * Talk:Chinese table manners (last two threads))

Many thanks for any help you can provide. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:44, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

1） No websites for these two as far as I know or can find out - Hainan International Exhibition Center (Chinese: 海南国际会展中心) has an entry on Baidu.

2) Not sure what you mean by the question "is this Hainan TV?" If you mean does the info relate to the local station I have no idea as I never watch TV :) There is no Chinese Wiki entry for Hainan TV (海南电视台).

3) Highways - not sure as I don't have a copy of a certain book with a map to hand.

4) "Etiquette of Chinese dining" is probably the most concise way to do it - section order seems fine.

Sorry, not much useful information I'm afraid. Now, if you were to ask me a question about this ... :) ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 14:28, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * 1) Ok thanks.


 * 2) Is HBN the owner of Hainan Television? Is Hainan Television and Hainan TV the same? Pass on that question if TV is a foreign concept to you. (It's an electric box with a glass front. Most restaurants have one going.) :)


 * 3) No worries on that one.


 * 4) But it's sort of about the whole dining experience. Would love a catch-all title.


 * Thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:34, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I am Really Confused!
I have no idea what you are talking about. This is a shared IP. I know NOTHING about Scorpions much less Striped ones!

Thanks! My email is msteaross@gmail.com Please use THAT for further dialogue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.125.60.115 (talk) 18:48, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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Qin, again
Hi Phil, mind weighing in on a dispute at Talk:Qin (state)? The issue is one user's use of a website-based citation (guoxue.com) in the article. You can read more over there. Thanks for your input.  White Whirlwind  咨   10:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi WW, will take a look now. Let me guess ... man under starlight? :) Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 14:37, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Jayne Mansfield
I saw that you were listed at PRV. Would you mind coming by to help Jayne Mansfield? Her article needs a lot of work. The problem remains that she existed a long time ago, so sources are lacking, but I noticed many sentences are awkwardly written. The article seems misleading or even confusing in some parts. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! ★ Dasani ★ 04:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Zhou Dynasty

 * Hello, Philg88. I am Michelle. I don't think we should keep articles about those kings about whom we know only their dates. We should redirect their pages to the main page. This is not my personal idea, but an opinion of one other user.--Mychele (talk) 08:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Michelle, thanks for the message. The idea of Wikipedia is to build an encyclopedia, not to finish it. Maybe today we only know a little bit about some topics, but over the next 100 years and beyond more detail will be added. Creating stub articles is a necessary part of this process. Once created, deleting these articles is counter-productive and also tends to create circular links (as did your edits on the Zhou articles. Best regards, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 09:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, OK, then. User:KAVEBEAR is the user I mentioned above. He deleted many articles about Hawaiian chiefs because some of them were stubs. Would you tell him to create articles again? You see, it was not my wish to delete Zhou articles.--Mychele (talk) 09:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Please don't delete any more Zhou articles. A number of editors have put a lot of effort into improving coverage of ancient China and deleting their work is impolite to say the least. If someone "tells" you to do something on Wikipedia please check that it fits with existing policies first. I will contact User:KAVEBEAR. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 09:26, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you. I don't want, however, that you have problems because of me.--Mychele (talk) 09:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Mychele, this is not the way to get attention on wikipedia. You don't use what I did and apply it to other articles to get other users to placate me to restore my deletions of articles that have major problems. I never told you to delete any articles on the Zhou kings, who are more notable than mythological Hawaiian kings and queens. The articles I deleted were in violation of copyright rules of Wikiepdia; they mix fact with fiction; and they should have never been created in the first place. Also the method of numbering the rulers is actually a made up concept by the author of the Royal ark site that no Hawaiian historian would agree with. I move them to my userspace, so I can still refer back to them if I ever decided to recreate them but as of now they can't exist on wikipedia in their current state and shouldn't be linked to other articles.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 09:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I didn't know that situation was so bad. Now I understand that many of Hawaiian chiefs were pure mythical beings. I just had a wrong opinion about you, Hawaii and Zhou. I am sorry. Forgive me, KAVEBEAR, we shouldn't be enemies anymore.-Michele — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.138.96.156 (talk) 11:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Mychele, I've reverted all the Zhou article stubs you redirected. Please take Kavebear's comments (and mine) on board to avoid situations like this in the future. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 14:56, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like the issue has been settled. The only thing left was the Geng Ding redirect, which I reverted.  The Zhou kings are on my to-do list.  It's just there are so many other ancient rulers that need articles. -Zanhe (talk) 06:29, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, everything now back under control. Thanks for spotting the article I missed. ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 06:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Lai (state)
你会中文吧？“齐东野语”出自古汉语，其中的“野”不是“野蛮”的“野”，而是“乡野”的“野”. 不是“野”是乡下人，而是“野人”. 古汉语的“野人”与标准现代汉语的“野人”意思不同. --113.227.222.242 (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, it means peasants, not wild people. It was me who did the incorrect translation though, not Philg88's fault. -Zanhe (talk) 04:53, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. Thanks for replying. --113.227.222.242 (talk) 05:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

啊，明白了，对不起, 就是因为我是洋夷 :) ► Philg88 ◄  star.png 06:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Elizabeth of Bosnia copy-editing
Hello! I saw your name on Peer review/volunteers and noticed that you are interested in history and biographies. Could you please do some copy-editing at Elizabeth of Bosnia? I've spent several months working on the article both in 2010 and in 2012. I am not a native speaker of English so the article might benefit from your attention. Let me know if you have time to deal with it. Thanks :) Surtsicna (talk) 19:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, that's a nicely structured article, well done! I've copyedited about half of it but unfortunately I have other things that need my attention. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 06:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! I suppose I should contact another editor to do the rest. Cheers! Surtsicna (talk) 17:20, 21 June 2012 (UTC)