User talk:Philg88/Archive 22

Quanzhou
Thank you for reverting my edit to Quanzhou. There was a bunch of ugly text where an image should've been, and I tried unsuccessfully to fix it. You succeeded.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 05:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Do you have another picture of Quanzhou? The current one is a bit naff. If so it should be straightforward to swap over the pics and add a new caption. Let me know if you need any help with that. Best ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 07:38, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I thoguht you were referring to Quanzhou entry on List of cities proper by population. I did replace the image there with a nicer one, Lingshan. I am not sure what do about the image at top of the QZ article itself.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 08:23, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah ... No problem. Looks like the Quanzhou article can stay as it is until a better pic comes along. ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 08:30, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Jardine Matheson was indeed a drug cartel
Hi, As per wiki's definition of a drug cartel JM were exactly such: Their primary income was the smuggling of illegal drugs into china. I know they didn't view it as illegal, but most internet pirates are of a similar mind, and indeed it's down to the legal authorities of the country into which said commodity is being imported as to whether it's legal or not. China made the import of opium illegal from 1729 (over a century before JM&C was formed) until the end of the second opium war, when the opium smuggling countries forced them to legalise it.

Here's Wikipedia's definition: A drug cartel is a criminal organization developed with the primary purpose of promoting and controlling drug trafficking operations. They range from loosely managed agreements among various drug traffickers to formalized commercial enterprises.

Sure, drug cartel is a modern term, hence the "see also", but if the cap fits... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.140.78.205 (talk) 11:02, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Please type your message title here
Thank you very much for putting the photo of President Alessandri for my President John F Kennedy is my political hero but only want to ask you a favor can put a photograph on the right side thanks greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esteban 147 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, but I think that the photo should stay on the left, as there are already a lot of photos on the right. If you want to change it just alter "thumb|left" to "thumb|right" in the article. Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 16:12, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

John F Kennedy and Jorge Alessandri
I have a problem, I'm not allowed to move the image from left to right will not let me, not wanting to bother you but you would have the kindness to make your eses change? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esteban 147 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No hay problema mi amigo, pero usted lo ha hecho :) ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 04:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Guanyin edit
I don't understand why you undid my edit to Guanyin. The note currently reads "Google Books," which is not informative and does not conform to the format prescribed by Wikipedia's source citation guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Womanbyday (talk • contribs) 05:39, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It looked like you changed "Cosmic" to "Comic", and since we get a lot of vandalism on Wikipedia I reverted it. I can see now that you made a spelling mistake and were trying to improve the reference, so my apologies. I will remove the warning from your talk page and fix the reference in the Guanyin article. Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 05:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firedragonknight (talk • contribs) 05:45, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Philg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebanobre (talk • contribs) 11:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey Philg88, thanks a lot. The table definitely looks much better. I am going to add in citations soon.

Rollback
Sorry about that – clumsy fingers when using a tablet. Kanguole 15:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * NP :) I did wonder ...► Philg88 ◄ star.png 15:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

My recent edit
Hello Philg88: You asked about my recent edit. My recent edit was just correcting a typo - removing a superfluous closing parenthesis mark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ardeshirmehta (talk • contribs) 15:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, your recent edit on what? Forgive me, but you don't have a talk page so I could not have left you a message. The edit must have been from an IP address and I see hundreds of those every day, please let me know which article you are referring to. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 15:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Naming of township-level divisions
I hope you are not (knowingly or due to being unaware) circumventing established conventions WP:NC-ZH. You are welcome to revive discussion on said conventions, but conventions are in place for a reason and WP:IAR is not appropriate or applicable here. GotR Talk 18:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for picking up on that. It wasn't an attempt to circumvent the naming policy or WP:IAR, rather it was in good faith because I didn't read the policy properly, assuming that since "Subdistricts" are called "Subdistricts", "Towns" would be called "Towns", which seemed logical. Anyway, I've moved the article diff'd above back to where it was - there are also a few other moves/creations that I will move accordingly. I think it would be good to revisit the wording of the "Towns" stuff in WP:NC-ZH as it could be presented more clearly. I will start the relevant discussion as and when at the NC talk page and let you know. Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 04:17, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia
Hello Philg88 I was wondering if you will tell me how to edit a page because i have this school project and it is about how to edit wikipedia so if you talk me back and tell me what to do that would be ok P.S Brebre9151 Bye! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brebre9851 (talk • contribs) 02:46, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll certainly help you but you might want to start of with a few sandbox edits before trying your hand at a real article. If you let me know what your project involves then I will give you some more info. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 04:31, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Re Scarborough Shoal
The paragraph you are trying to revert is an inappropriate content in the Philippine claims. It is saying as if the Philippines has no effective claims on the Scarborough shoal at all. If you want to revert it, just put it in Chinese/Taiwan claim. It is stated there that in comparison with the Philippine claim, so I guess there will be no trouble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markxvi (talk • contribs) 17:44, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This is not about judging what is appropriate, the issue here is your removal of content without explaining why. Now that you have done that, I have moved the paragraph in question to the bottom of the Philippine section, which makes things more balanced. Part of what you want removed is a referenced quote and is germane to the Philippine claim - the fact that it is not particularly favourable to them is neither here nor there if it is supported by a reliable source. To avoid this sort of issue in the future, it's really important that you use the edit summary to explain changes (and sign your posts on talk pages using four tildas ( ~ ). Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 05:55, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

South China University of Technology
Why you delete other's information? It is not poilet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.2.10 (talk) 10:45, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This is nothing to do with politeness. I have explained why on your talk page. ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 10:52, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Re: Scarborough Shoal
I'm not yet familiar with wikipedia editing that's why I wasn't able to provide explanation. However, the subject paragraph is neither germane nor in favor to the Philippine claim. the subject paragraph is contradictory to the whole stated Philippine claim in that page thats why I tried to remove it, for instance the Philippine claim includes year 1900 (Treaty of Washington) and 1957 ( the Philippine government conducted an oceanographic survey of the area and together with the US Navy force based in then U.S. Naval Base Subic Bay in Zambales, used the area as an impact range for defense purposes. An 8.3 meter high flag pole flying a Philippine flag was raised in 1965.) It would be absurd if the author will say that the Philippine claim is new. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markxvi (talk • contribs) 06:08, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. Please see the discussion on the Scarborough Shoal talk page. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 10:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Please type your message title here
I think you can refer to the chinese version. The actual link you can also refer to http://baike.baidu.com/link?url=Yzl6NHhwE-5HS8kJ4XMlS9FykAIqHwMrUK1-zCmaAdsQUmbe2bSyDS8tokKgLHbQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.2.10 (talk) 10:56, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * In that case the content you added is a violation of copyright and most definitely not permitted. ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 11:02, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Please type your message title here
I have add the links. You can help to make the words better. The word best and good is used by the news. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.2.10 (talk) 12:01, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Since I objected to the addition of this content in the first place, I would have thought it blindingly obvious that there is a snowball's chance of me helping "make the words better".► Philg88 ◄ star.png 13:37, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the new content is just too long to be improved. Anyway I posted a message on the article talk page about this. See you there! Madalibi (talk) 13:50, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Please type your message title here
It seems you are from a bad university which Chinese people call it yeji. So, do not just do some useless things! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikihalper1942 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * 野鸡吗？当然不礼貌. 我不在乎但是这是"personal attack",不允许. ► Philg88 ◄  star.png 05:50, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Please Answer
Hello this is brebre9851 you have not answered my talk so please talkback. Thank you. P.S brebre9851Brebre9851 (talk) 19:24, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I did answer. See the message above under the heading "Wikipedia". Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 19:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

project
So my project details are to edit wikipedia on the article about Christina Aguilera and it will not let me edit it can you tell me some ways to get help thank you P.S.brebre please leave it on my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brebre9851 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

No you have not
Hello philg but i made a new post you have not answered and are you a computerBrebre9851 (talk) 19:41, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have answered on your talk page as requested, and no, I am not a computer quite yet. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ star.png 19:49, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Naipaul galleries
Thanks for you edit and for the links to MOS. Although I removed the multiple issues tag, as the article is under construction, I've taken your gallery-related advice to heart. I'm changing the gallery to a rotation template, which will show only one image at a time. Thanks again, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  10:06, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem, I have put a note on the Talk:V._S._Naipaul page detailing the current issues with the article. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ star.png 10:12, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello Philg88
Hello Philg88, will you mind if I ask you not to use the image file in your signature due to this reasons. Thank you for your understanding.  J i m Carter  ( talk ) 14:49, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do mind, there are far more important matters that require your attention than my signature - I suggest that you start with your contribution history. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ star.png 15:08, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if you feel bad. I told you assuming good faith but I think you have taken my words negatively. Anyway, thank you for keeping my contributions on your watchlist. I don't wanted to hurt you in this case; actually my network connection is so week that I cannot load pages properly. And I have seen earlier that image files slows down the connection speed so I asked you. And BTW I felt your words are little bit rude. But I can't do anything it is upto you how you behave with others.


 * I retracted my earlier comments. I don't know the reason why you feel bad, but still I'm sorry.  J i m Carter  ( talk ) 15:43, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * There, I've changed it. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 15:49, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Good job. And again I'm sorry if you feel bad. BTW It will be helpful if you let me know which issues of me you are talking about ?  J i m Carter  ( talk ) 15:57, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't feel in the slightest bit bad so I wouldn't worry. That aside, this is not the place to go into what concerns me about your contributions - I will try and give you some helpful pointers in the right places that I hope will be useful. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 16:13, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Nawanagar (village) case
After a bit investigation, I have found that is a possible sockpuppet of the actual creator of the article,. There are two possible reasons; firstly both the names are Indian and the meaning of both the account names are almost same. (Anshmanraj312 = rajansh''') Secondly, a new editor (only two edits on the same page) will surely not edit a page which don't have much traffic. And lastly, both the accounts were accessed from India. So, I think this case must be taken directly to SPI. I'm not productive this days so I request you to do this onbehalf of me. Thank you for bringing this on my notice.  J i m Carter  ( talk ) 15:34, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jim, Good work. I'm not so sure about starting an SPI investigation though, as neither user has done anything untoward (yet?) I'll keep an eye on it. Cheers, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 16:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Huizhou University - Trying to avoid an edit war
Thanks for the comment. You are right, I wrongfully said vandalism when I should have said 'continuation of last year's edit war. There is a ton of backstory to what is going on with the Huizhou University page, but essentially a disgruntled employee (user 59.41.252.229) constantly tries to add negative poorly sourced materials to the page to make the institution look bad. He did this last year until the page was semi-locked down. I have to admit that I have a conflict of interests myself, as I have once again come to be employed by the school, but I am trying to keep a neutral tone while not having my employer disparaged based on rumors and groundless accusations. I just saw that the edits I removed have in fact been restored by said user, so feel free to go have a look at the differences yourself. In fact, I'd appreciate it more users could review the changes to weigh in on the edits. AndreGallant (talk) 12:55, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * thanks for the message, I've restored your version of the article and posted a comment on the talk page. Cheers, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 14:02, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing
Hi Philg88. Thank you for reviewing Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_origins_of_political_order. I have taken your suggested improvements. This is both the first time I try to DYK an article, and the first time I try to review a DYK. It is a bit of a learning experience for me. Star Lord -   星王 (talk) 15:30, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, . If you want some guidance on rearranging the sections please let me know. I have created one or two Wikipedia articles so I'm fairly familiar with what's what. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 15:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I would be grateful for your guidance, Philg88. Star Lord -   星王 (talk) 15:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem, let me think about it overnight and I'll have a go at the article tomorrow - if you don't like what I do then you're welcome to revert it. Cheers, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 15:58, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Wolf Evolution
Please check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#Map_of_wolf_evolution regarding the question of copyright. Thanks.--DLommes (talk) 17:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Destruction of opium at Humen
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Opium
Interesting article on Destruction of opium at Humen! I started Opium production in Burma a while back! I've asked if he'd be interested in starting the forts in the area.♦  Dr. Blofeld  12:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Why thank you! Information on the forts is sparse from what I've seen (I made a list of some of the Canton ones here), but such articles would certainly be welcome improvements. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 13:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Sites, landmarks and capitalization
Hi, I noticed that you moved a bunch of articles about China's Major National Historical and Cultural Sites to Major national historical and cultural sites (Major national historical and cultural sites (Guangxi), Major national historical and cultural sites (Shaanxi), Major national historical and cultural sites (Tianjin) Major national historical and cultural sites (Hebei), etc.).

I'm wondering if the moves are appropriate for such articles, considering articles such as United States' National Historic Landmark or National Register of Historic Places are using the capitalized format, see examples such as List of National Historic Landmarks in New Mexico, List of National Historic Landmarks in New York, List of National Historic Landmarks in Wisconsin, and National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota. Many other similar articles, such as Canada's List of National Historic Sites of Canada in British Columbia are in the same format. What do you think?--TheLeopard (talk) 10:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, interesting question. I used to be a great fan of capitalising things until I started reading up on the whole issue. The key is in deciding whether something is a proper noun or a collection of entities forming a "class", which is sometimes but not always a list. So, with the "Major national historical and cultural sites" the individual members are in some cases proper nouns but when they are presented together they are not. By the same token, something can be a "National Historic Landmark", but a class or list of "National historic landmarks" never is. The "National Register of Historic Places" is a proper noun but "List of national historic landmarks in New Mexico" etc. are not and should be lowercase. Similarly, "National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota" is correct because the first part is a proper noun and the second part is not, except for the state name. Sorry if this appears a bit rambling but there is logic in the whole thing, which leads to a definitive set of grammar rules. WP:NCCAPS could really do with some additional info on this important topic. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 10:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I do think these articles (list of sites and landmarks in China, United States, Canada, etc.) really ought to have a uniform format.  The differences in capitalization between the list of landmarks in the United States and the list of Chinese sites doesn't make much sense.--TheLeopard (talk) 13:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The reason I haven't started on any other similar changes per the Chinese culture/history articles is that it takes an awful lot of time. Each list has to be done pretty much at the same time to avoid ending up with an inconsistent mess. Cheers, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 13:37, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Re: History of opium in China
Regarding this, 香 is never pronounced "xian". You can check any Chinese dictionary, and I will assure you that you won't find such a reading. Here's 香 on Wiktionary as an example. -- benlisquare T•C•E 15:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * And here is CEDICT. -- benlisquare T•C•E 15:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Sorry about that, I thought that you just added the tone marks. It should of course be xiang. Now fixed, Cheers 15:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

GOCE March 2014 barnstar
Moved to User:Philg88/Barnstars

more wolf evolution
please check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#Map_of_wolf_evolution Thanks! --DLommes (talk) 21:09, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Moved to User:Philg88/Barnstars


 * Thank you, much appreciated. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 13:35, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Great map!
Great opium map! Would you be willing to explain how you do it, or, even better, do a good looking version of a dumb looking map I have made? It's a map of the salt producing regions of China based on several maps I scanned and tried to redraw. ch (talk) 18:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you like it —it was a pain converting all the piculs to metric tons but I thought that would make the data more accessible. As for your map, I'm happy to help but trying to explain the arcane nature of Adobe Illustrator is likely to cause a great deal of frustration on both sides. Alternatively, if you're happy for me to create the map, please email it and I will create a first draft. There will probably be a couple of revision cycles but that's no big deal. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 04:48, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chien-Shiung Wu
Thanks for the help; the solution makes a lot of sense. Do you know if the use of a bibliography in articles is reserved for this kind of specific case? I can't find mention of it in WP:MoS; or are these conventions drawn from a more general academic style manual? Thanks again. → (talk·contribs) 10:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, you can use a bibliography like this in any article and it's not really a question of style, hence why it's not in the style guide. Be aware though, that where an article has a citation system established by consensus you should discuss proposed changes before jumping in. You can find more info on using shortened footnotes here. Happy referencing! Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 11:29, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Moved to User:Philg88/Barnstars

Recent edit to Papaver somniferum
Quote:

''Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edit to Papaver somniferum does not have an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history.''

Hi Philg88,

Thanks for getting in touch and thank you for all the work you do for Wikipedia. My apologies for not providing an edit summary - I am barely computer literate, and my ability to edit to Wikipedia is very rudimentary. I added the 'cocaine = snow' reference as it acts as a counterpoint to the 'poppy = opium = sleep' mentioned in the article. It is almost 20 years since I read this factoid and chasing down the reference is a bit time consuming for me.

Anyway, you have prompted me to improve my Wikipedia skills. I see the cocaine reference has been removed which is fine by me.

Best wishes

John

(NZ)

(Philg88 Signing unsigned message sent by at 18:55 on 7 April 2014‎)


 * Hi and thanks for your message. I appreciate you taking the time to write an explanation of what happened. After a bit of research, I think that the idea of snow representing cocaine in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is an urban myth based on an opposite relationship between the two (i.e.  cocaine got the association from the book, not the other way around). According to this, "snow" as a colloquial term for cocaine arose from the '"magical snow", which awoke Dorothy.' There is no suggestion in any sources that I can find that Frank L. Baum had any connection with drugs and if it is anything more than a childrens' story, the book is a political allegory. As a result, I'm afraid your suggested factoid can't be added to the article as it is a fringe theory for which there are no reliable sources. Best  <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 05:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Understanding "Wikified" language
Hi, and thanks for taking the time to "Wikify" the language I added to "Ballast Point".

If you don't mind, I would like to ask a question so I can better understand this; I am new to this, still learning.

The background is that in the 1800s, the European settlement of the Sydney area was in its early days. Place names were informal, and often duplicated. There were at least two, probably three places on Sydney Harbour known as "Ballast Point" then. This is what I attempted to clarify with my comment that it was another site also known by that name. The revised wording gives me the impression that there was only one place of that name in the 1800s, and it changed. So can you please indicate why the new wording is preferred, so I can adopt the best approach in future? --Gronk Oz (talk) 13:00, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Good question! There is no actual semantic difference between "For another area that was also known as "Ballast Point" during the 1800s" (Your version) and "For the area known as "Ballast Point" during the 1800s" (My version). The key difference is that my version is more concise. It is also the conventional way such informational notes are usually written in Wikipedia. This is called "copyediting" in Wiki speak. If there was more than once place known by the same name at the same time then you would change it to "For other locations known as "Ballast Point" during the 1800s see PLACE, PLACE1 and PLACE2". As it stands, there is only one location so obfuscating the language in case another one pops up is unnecessary —the hatnote can be changed as and when other locations are known. Hope this helps. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 13:31, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for that. I will read more about copyediting...--Gronk Oz (talk) 13:45, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata
You should link all Chinese town and subdistricts article you created to zhwiki via Wikidata.--GZWDer (talk) 14:11, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing that out, but it's done automatically if the corresponding Chinese article exists. That's why use of the former cross-wiki link syntax is now deprecated. 您明白了没有？还是要我写汉语？ <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 15:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I may be wrong about that ... Trying to find out. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 06:41, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Update It is automatic, there are a number of bots carrying out the task. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 06:57, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You have not added any interwikilinks in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hengbei,_Wuhua_County&action=edit&oldid=598102565 your created version], so no bot will automatically link it. You should:


 * 1) Link articles after creating manually;
 * 2) Or use deprecated link syntax, and a bot will import these sitelink to Wikidata (not recommended, because the bot only check sitelinks periodically ).

--GZWDer (talk) 09:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Bots only checks existed sitelinks, they don't check new articles.--GZWDer (talk) 09:41, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed, but new articles get added to the corpus of Wikidata, which is non-static, then the bots go to work. It may take longer than doing it manually but eventually it happens. In future I will check. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 09:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello
It me again and I am wondering if you can telll me about some facts about Wikipedia and how it started it my class project please place it on my talk page

P.S. Brebre9851 Brebre9851 (talk) 03:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . I'll answer here if you don't mind to keep the conversation in one place.


 * Wow, that's a big question! If you want some information on Wikipedia you can find it here. For the details on how Wikipedia started have a look at the History of Wikipedia article. If that doesn't provide what you need then let me know. Don't forget, if you cut and paste any information from Wikipedia for your class project you must add a note saying where you got it from. Good luck! <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 04:42, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow that was a good topic for school projects! I like it.   J i m Carter  ( talk ) 05:59, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

...Something in Chinese?
Thanks for the ping on Burns and Trauma :D I see on your user page you have a note about if anyone has a question about something in Chinese. I frequently update and cleanse this list of individuals who are alive on the English WP, but are showing as being dead on other languages. Under the section "Living people" there are several Chinese biographies with this discrepancy. I was wondering if you were able to address any of them? Thanks!  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 09:47, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'd be happy to take a look. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 09:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * That should be all the Chinese inconsistencies in the living dead list fixed up - I'll check it from time to time for updates. Now I think I will tackle the rinpoche issue I accidentally exhumed - if you don't hear from me again that may well be as the result of a fatwah issued by a disgruntled Tibetan Lama ... :) <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 13:29, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for your help with this.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:52, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing. Here is the explanation of my original topic that I think it's better not to change.
The topic of my article is "missing women of China". You helped me with reviewing it and gave me a suggestion that it's better to change my topic to "Gender imbalance in China". I'm very thankful for your reviewing and suggestions. While I think I want to keep the original topic. The reason is that gender imbalance is a broader idea. Missing women is just one aspect of gender imbalance. The reason I talked sex-selective abortion a lot is that it is one of the main reasons of missing women of China.

My article focus on the missing women, which is narrower than gender imbalance. That's the reason I think it might be better to keep my original topic.

I'm not sure if I make it clear about keeping the topic unchanged. If you still think it's better to change the topic, let me know please. Thank you so much! I'll keep improving it. More suggestions are welcomed. ^o^ Thank you again for reviewing and suggestions. Thanks! Yangtana Li (talk) 01:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi and thanks for your message. A title like "Missing women in China" is potentially confusing and misleading, since it implies that such people are somehow "lost", which is not the case since they were never there in the first place. That is why I suggested "Gender imbalance in China", which is the broad topic, and in that article you then have a section using your title, "Sex-selective abortion", to which "Gender imbalance in China" currently redirects, is also a subtopic of "Gender imbalance in China". So, what we should end up with in an ideal world is an article on "Gender imbalance in China" with  sections on "Sex-selective abortion" and "Missing women". The "Sex-selective abortion" section will have a main link to that article while your section ... well ... it depends how long it is. For now, there is a further issue, which is that as it stands your proposed article reads like a an essay and contains original research, neither of which are permitted under Wikipedia guidelines. I suggest that you sort those out first and we'll move on from there. 顺便，我看得懂中文, Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 09:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Philg88, sorry for the late reply. I was busy with my Wikipedia draft and other course exam last week. Missing women is a terminology in gender area coined by Amartya Sen, a Nobel Prize winner. There is already an article called "Missing women of Asia" in Wikipedia, so I think "Missing women of China" is ok as well. I hope you don't mind I explain it in Chinese. 根据我的instructor的建议，我已经把 topic 改成 Missing women of China 了. 之前的 Missing women in China 确实容易产生误导. 改了之后看起来应该会好一些. 我还是觉得 Missing women of China 比 Gender imbalance in China 更合适. Gender imbalance 是广泛的性别比例失调，可以是男多女少，也可以是女多男少. 但是 missing women 就是被定义为由女性的性别歧视产生的性别比例失调. 所以我理解的gender imbalance 范围要大一些. 在中国，没有女多男少的情况，只有由于性别歧视产生的missing women, 所以我认为missing women更准确一些. However, now I have a big problem with my Wikipedia page and I really need your help. According to the writing center of our university and my professor's advices, I made a lot of changes with my Wikipedia page from last Friday to Saturday. Then I moved it to the namespace on Sunday according to my course's requirement. But now I find it has been deleted. It's said, "the page is not ready for Articlespace and Please do not move it back untill it passes AFC)". I'm so worried that my course gonna end this week and the due date of the Wikipedia contribution will coming soon. Could you tell me how can I make it moved to the namespace successfully without deleting? If you need to see my revised article, I can send it to you.(through email or something else?) I really need your help. Thank you so so so much! Yangtana Li (talk) 14:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi and thanks for the message. 不要担心， your article hasn't been deleted, you moved it to the article space before it had been reviewed at AfC when you should have waited. That isn't allowed under the AfC guidelines so another editor moved it back to the draft space pending completion of the review. You can now find it at Draft:Missing women of China. I understand that you have a pressing requirement to get this into main space so first of all you need to resubmit the article for review by clicking on the "Resubmit" button at the top of the draft page. Before you do that, you will see that I have put two requests for clarification in the first paragraph. Please address those before you resubmit. Once you have done the resubmission, leave me a message here (don't forget the "ping" to tell me its done) and I will do the review either later today or first thing tomorrow. Let's make sure that we get you through this course requirement! Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 04:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Philg88. I saw your reply on Hasteur's talk page just now. I'm sorry for that. I don't know that it's not good to leave messages on others' talk page before you told me that. I just too worried to do that this afternoon. Sorry for that. I've seen your two comments in my article page. I'm trying to revise it to make it more like an encyclopaedia rather than an essay. For another problem you mentioned, the title, I still prefer to keep "Missing women of China". I have two reasons for that. First, "missing women" is a more academic phrase. Since there already exists the terminology, I think it is better to use it. People will search "Missing women" instead of "Gender imbalance" if they are trying to get some relevant informations. There are many journal articles on google scholar talking about missing women. I think this is the most important reason. Another reason is that "gender imbalance" includes two side: males are far more than females or males are much less than females. "Missing women" is the former one due to discriminations against females. You know, in China, females are much less than males. 不知道我是不是把我的想法表述清楚了. What do you think of that? You also mentioned sex-selective abortion above. I saw the article you linked above and sex-selective abortion indeed caused the imbalanced sex ratio in China. Therefore, it can also be a subtopic of missing women of China, right? ^o^

It is 00:03 a.m. now In Salt Lake City. I gonna sleep now. Good rest can help study. ^o^ I will keep working on the article tomorrow morning and finish revising as soon as possible in tomorrow. By the way, what is "ping" you mentioned above? Thank you for helping me with the article and giving me advices! Thanks! Sorry for leaving message anywhere again. Yangtana Li (talk) 00:03, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi . 我明白你的意思，没问题. Let's leave the article title as it is for now - it can always be moved later. The most important thing is to get the article fixed up and into the main space. I will carry on going through it, making changes to fit Wikipedia guidelines and leaving notes where appropriate. Once you have addressed these, resubmit the article and I will review it. The "ping" I mentioned is to alert me to a new message from you (which you do like this:  ) - normally you don't need to do that on a user talk page because notification is automatic, but as your requirement is urgent it means that I'm more likely to see a message from you. 祝你好睡觉, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 06:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Philg88, Thank you so much for your revisions on my article yesterday. I just saw them today. Thank you so much for that! I'm really appreciated! Based on your revisions, I made some other tiny changes on my article (deleted some words and sentences, added some in-text citations), deleted one subsection ( in consequences section), and instead added another subsection (still in consequences section). I'm not sure if the article now can match the Wikipedia guidelines. Could you help me to check please? Thank you!! The most worried thing for me is whether the article still looks like an essay. >< If there are still something need to be changed please let me know. I'm always staying here until late midnight. Thank you!! Yangtana Li (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi . OK, I've made some further final revisions. Once you have addressed the one request for clarification the article should be good to go. You will need to resubmit it then I will do the review. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 05:53, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Philg88, thanks for your current revisions! Thank you! I've changed the second sentence in "Aging population effects" and added the citation there, but I'm not sure if I made the citation in the right place (the citation I made is after the comma). Is it the request you said above? I'm so sorry for one thing: I just want to change the "in" to "of " in the first sentence you added for me, because changing "in" to "of" will seems to be the same with the article title. But I accidentally deleted part of the sentence and I don't remember what is you revised expression. So I can just rewrite it. So I'm not sure if the first sentence now looks ok. So sorry for that! So could I resubmit the article now or do it after you check the first sentence of the article for my deleting by mistake? (sorry again.) Do I need to notify you after I resubmit? Yangtana Li (talk) 01:03, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've fixed up the first sentence - please do not change it as the grammar is correct. You can go ahead and resubmit the article - you don't need to notify me as I am watching the page. I have also listed myself as the article's reviewer on the coursework page. Cheers, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 07:28, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I'm really appreciated about your helping! Sorry for taking your busy time, but I still have to questions: (1). Is it means that all I need to do after resubmit is to waiting for reviewing? And could I move the article to the namespace by myself? when could I do that? or anyone else will do that but not me? (2). I just click the resubmit button and then click the save button in the new coming out page. Have I finish the resubmission with this two steps? I've seen nothing changed in my page except a reviewing waiting box at the very bottom of the page. The top of the page after I resubmit is still with "Draft". Sorry for so much questions at your busy time. Yangtana Li (talk) 01:51, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I will do the review now. As for moving the article, because you previously moved it to the main space when you should not have, only an administrator can now move the article. Don't worry, I will ask the administrator involved to do it. Now all you have to do is wait. Please be a little patient :) <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 08:01, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much Philg88!! ^o^ This is my first time to work on Wikipedia. Before my move was taken down, I didn't know that it's not allowed to move in that situation. Sorry for that. My mistake made the thing a little troublesome. Fortunately, the good news is that everything goes well now with your great help! Thank you again! If there are any other problems with the article when you are reviewing, let me know please. I'll also keep on improving. Thanks!!! 谢谢你！Best, Yangtana Li (talk) 02:14, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 不用客气. I am waiting for an admin to unprotect your article, then I will move it to the article space. Please do not edit it further until that is done. Cheers, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 08:34, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

嘿嘿！好的！听你的. I won't edit it before it's done. Thanks! ^^ Have a nice day Philg88! Yangtana Li (talk) 02:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

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Greater Shanghai Plan
Didn't know this article existed. Another nice surprise from you. Thank you! -Zanhe (talk) 15:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Why thank you u|Zanhe. The plan I drew for that article is probably my favourite out of all the map's I've created over the years. I have another new article up my sleeve, which I think you will also enjoy. Should be finished by next week at the latest. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 16:07, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I eagerly look forward to that. The map is awesome. I didn't realize you're also good at making maps. Would you be interested in creating the missing location maps for some of the Chinese provinces (Beijing, Gansu, Hunan, Jiangsu, Zhejiang, etc.)? They can potentially be used in tens of thousands of Chinese towns and villages like the ones in this template. I looked into cropping the map images from www.openstreetmap.org and adding coordinates, but my ineptitude with graphics tools makes the task too daunting. -Zanhe (talk) 18:56, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I like text and maps - they complement each other beautifully. As for the location maps you mention, I'm not quite sure what you mean. The idea with towns and villages etc. is not to create an individual map for each location but rather to use a provincial map template in an infobox then add the coordinates for a pushpin. There is an example at Fumian District using a topographic map that I created. Is that the sort of thing you mean?


 * FYI there is a gallery of all my maps here. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 04:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. I actually wrote Fumian District using the Guangxi map, without realizing you created it, so thanks! But if you look at Category:China location map templates, quite a few provinces are missing. created most of the existing ones, but did not do all provinces. I remember  (one of his previous incarnations) requested his help a while ago, but he was too busy with other stuff. -Zanhe (talk) 05:28, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Hmm ... this being Wikipedia, there appear to be different interpretations of what format a location map should be in - some are topographic whilst others use the standard yellow with boundaries. The Jiangsu template (which uses a map created in 2009) is way outside existing conventions —horrible numbers ruin it, its not an SVG and adding a pusphpin would make it even uglier. Alas discussion of the map guidelines has been stalled for a year so there is no policy in place. Personally, I prefer the "yellow" variety as it's more informative. Thoughts? <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 05:50, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I prefer the standard yellow ones too. Yes, the current Jiangsu map looks ugly, and so are Hebei and Henan. The Shanghai map is a crop from openstreetmap.org. Better than nothing, I guess. -Zanhe (talk) 06:17, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll add it to my todo list but I'm not quite sure when I'll get around to it. Best, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 06:20, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Do it whenever you feel like it. -Zanhe (talk) 07:13, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Illustrated Treatise on the Maritime Kingdoms
Is this what you were talking about earlier? You're right, I enjoyed it very much indeed! -Zanhe (talk) 18:07, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I guessed that you'd pick up on it after I added a link from some of the articles we both watch. Glad you enjoyed it, awesome book and its a shame that Lin Zexu never got the credit he deserved for it. Should make DYK sometime soon. Cheers, <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 18:56, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Congrats on a great and much needed article! I added links at Xu Jiyu and copied your reference to the Cambridge History and added it there. One question, though: I couldn't find the Wikidata 海國圖志. ch (talk) 19:08, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * It's here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11150428. I've already added a link there to Phil's article. -Zanhe (talk) 19:12, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks to both of you for your kind assistance. <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 19:19, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I guess I thought the text would be there, but now I see that it's an invitation for somebody to enter it? ch (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2014 (UTC)