User talk:Philip Stevens/Archive 3

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Infoboxes
Is this a Wikipedia rule? If so, can you please provide a cite? Thanks. Jkp1187 (talk) 18:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I understand your position, and definitely want to work with you on this. However, your suggested guideline is creates bad results. For instance, it would lead to exclusion of two third party candidates who received a substantial percentage of the vote (Perot in '92 and '96, Anderson in '80) despite having an impact on the race. Indeed, Perot in '92 and Anderson in '80 participated in televised debates against major candidates during the Fall election campaign (Anderson against Reagan, Perot against Bush and Clinton). At the same time, it means that candidates who received electoral votes, such as Hospers in '72 and Byrd in '60 despite receiving minimal votes (Hospers) or, really, none at all (Byrd) SHOULD be included.

I suggest instead that Third party/independent candidates should not be included in the infobox unless either (a) they receive a substantial percentage of votes, or otherwise significantly affected the race, or (b) received any electoral votes. I suggest that Nader in '00 had an impact in the race (certainly many believe, rightly or wrongly, that his presence 'threw' the election to Bush. Don't want to debate that issue, but the idea is out there and I think that his candidacy should be recognized.)  I also suggest that Perot ('96 and '92) and Anderson ('80) either had an impact on the race, or received a significant portion of the popular vote (in all cases, more than 5%) to merit inclusion.

Of course, there are other candidates that could be discussed, but in essence I think that by not including any candidates that had an impact on the race (and the only case where there were more than 4 I think would be 1860,) a disservice is done to history. Jkp1187 (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/British Airways Flight BA38
I don't think this is eligible for speedy deletion, as the page history should be kept to prove that the comment was added by the user in question, rather than me adding random comments by other users to the project page. I have removed the notice rather than adding a template, because the latter creates Wikipedia talk talk:Articles for deletion/British Airways Flight BA38, and that's just silly. -- Roleplayer (talk) 16:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. --Philip Stevens (talk) 16:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Where's The Code?
Phil, when I click onto the link in your last post at Template talk:Infobox Officeholder it does not give me any code. Maybe you can fix the link or post the code on my talk page. --SMP0328. (talk) 22:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:SpaceShip1-patch.jpg
Because it's a copyrighted image, you need to fill out this little form here (see below) and put it on the image page or the WikiGods will throw a hissy fit. I'm telling you this because the jerk who tagged the image didn't let you know about it. I just happened to stumble across it. If you don't put the form up by Wednesday, they'll delete the image. I'll bring it up on the image help desk and tell them you weren't notified until five days after the image was tagged.

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Defaultsort vs. BD
Hi, Philip.

The Template:BD is rather controversial, see its talkpage. Deletion is suggested. Using the defaultsort template is preferred, as it acts on all catagories, including those that come via templates (like bio-stubs). That's why a parameter is not needed for the template recentdeath.

Regards, LarRan (talk) 08:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Paterson
I still disagree. See the Paterson talk page. (However, no worries, I will not revert you again until we have consensus either between us or from other editors) --Jaysweet (talk) 18:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

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User:Electrobe
Hi. Given this user's apparent inability to work collaboratively, I've posted this -- and since it mentions yourself, I thought I ought to let you know. Sigh. Sardanaphalus (talk) 16:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll monitor the discussion and join in if needed. --Philip Stevens (talk) 16:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Electrobe (2)
Please also mind the unconstructive edits of him to Archbishops of Canterbury. Thanks.Ngckmax (talk) 17:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've added this to the Alert post mentioned above. Whether it'll come to anything, I don't know.

The "Prince/ss X of Wales" Issue
Just thought I'd let you know that there's a discussion about the above at the WikiProject, and I'm inviting all of the members to join in DBD 13:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello Phillip Stevens
did you like my little bit of vandalism back then (samantha cameron). Was only having a laugh old chum, no need to get het up at all. Anyhow noticed you attend UoWB. Nearly went there myself as it happens but ultimately decided against it - too remote for my liking. Anyhow have a plesant day old chum and like i say, just a spot of highjinks but nonetheless i appologise. cherio. Lord Etchingham. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.238.59 (talk) 06:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Infobox
I appreciate your response. I have replied with my understanding of the situation. It seems you are the guy with the ability to change the template. I am hoping you will make it work for the issue I raise.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 12:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

UK Deputy PM
You seem to be one of the most knowledgeable people on the UK's government, so I think I'll go to you! Nobody has responded on Brown's page on who his deputy is. I've narrowed it to Harriet Harman because of the deputy position in Commons, Alister Darling because (from my point of view) he seems to be the next most powerful minister and Jack Straw because of his new, prestigious positions and how most of us thought he was actually given the Deputy PM and First Secretary of State position. Therequiembellishere (talk) 18:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There is currently no Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom - there's no constitutional requirement for one. Harriet Harman is the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party and would become Acting Leader if anything were to happen to Gordon Brown. Technically it would be up to the Queen as to who would become PM, but she'd probably call for Harman. Hope this answers your question. --Philip Stevens (talk) 19:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you think it'd be alright if I put her up in the deputy section of his infobox? Therequiembellishere (talk) 20:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to interrupt, but we could not put anyone in the deputy section — as Mr Stevens noted, there are reasons for Harman to be named as such, but equally, as you said, Darling is the Second Lord and Chancellor is without exception the second most powerful minister (even above the DPM when there is one)... It's just too nuanced to be expressed as "deputy is X" DBD 20:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well what if I put her in as deputy ad interim? That is effectively what she is. And if a DPM is ever chosen, would it be appropriate to place them there at all then? Tehy don't really have power and they don't necessarily take control either, right? Therequiembellishere (talk) 23:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Jack Kemp
Thanks for the help with the template. You may be interested in commenting on the current WP:FAC at Featured article candidates/Jack Kemp.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 02:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

McClellan
The merged infobox looks good. Is there a way the template can be modified so that the 'nickname=' field of the original Military infobox is displayed? Thanks, Hal Jespersen (talk) 16:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. --Philip Stevens (talk) 16:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. That solution was completely nonintuitive to me. Wouldn't it be better to modify the merged template to pick up all the relevant data from the templates you're merging from? Hal Jespersen (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I didn't see that field. --Philip Stevens (talk) 19:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure what you're saying. As I understood it, someone (you?) a few months ago took the contents of Template:Infobox Military Person and copied the unique parts of it into Template:Infobox Officeholder. That person neglected to include the nickname= field, which is actually rather widely used in military biographies. I don't understand these templates well enough (not do I have admin permissions) to modify the template. I have been assuming you were involved in this merger, based on some comments you made in the Officeholder template talk page. Hal Jespersen (talk) 20:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you'd like the nickname field added to Infobox Officeholder, add a comment to the talk page. --Philip Stevens (talk) 21:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Hal Jespersen (talk) 01:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

BBC News 24
Could you not redirect this until some concensus has emerged as to what it should be called...Zir (talk) 07:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I should have looked at the talk page before I moved the article. --Philip Stevens (talk) 07:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup - for future reference, never move a page before at least checking the talk page to see if a move is being discussed. Talk Islander 10:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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Unsourced statement about the Palace of Westminster
Greetings, Mr Stevens. On 4 March, you contributed to the Palace of Westminster article with a large section about customs and traditions (diff). I should like to ask you about one element in particular: do you have access to any source supporting that Spencer Perceval was officially pronounced dead at 10 Downing Street? The existing source does not make any mention of this, and if no source can be found the fact in question cannot be added back to the article. Regards, Waltham, The Duke of 20:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have heard and seen this before, but I couldn't find a source when I added the section to the page and I still can't find one now. So by all means, remove the comment if you think you should. If and when I find the source I'll return the cited comment. --Philip Stevens (talk) 20:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. It is an interesting fact, but cannot stay until a source is found; I'd like to see it back in the future, though. Thank you for your prompt reply. Waltham, The Duke of 23:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Infobox election
its because some forgot to put  nat.utoronto 22:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. --Philip Stevens (talk) 22:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Nominations
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Kudos...
...on all the MP work. Darrenhusted (talk) 15:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, not having a life helps. --Philip Stevens (talk) 15:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Salmond
Because the Banff and Buchan (Scottish Parliament constituency) info was already included in the MSP office part of the infobox see Gordon Brown's page for a similar layout it saves space and stops the infobox from becoming unwieldy thanks Barryob   (Contribs)   (Talk)  16:40, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The page already has 4 offices I do not think there is a need to list the MSP office twice if anyone wanted to know who was the successor and predecessor for the Banff and Buchan seat all they would have to do it click on it. Barryob  (Contribs)   (Talk)  18:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

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A Problem?
Hi Philip. I don't know why the seats carried (number) of third/forth party is in bold while the others are not except the first (leading) party which usually indicates the party that gets plurality or forms the government (e.g. Canadian elections, Bloc Québécois - third party - did not join in the government after that, but its seats carried is in bold -- Conservatives formed a minority government instead). Is there a problem in the Infobox Election template? How to unmake/remove the numbers boldened? Isaac Ching (talk) 13:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Has that fixed the problem? --Philip Stevens (talk) 13:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you very much!!! --Isaac Ching (talk) 13:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Election templates
Hi Philip. I've reverted your changes to the templates British elections (1707-1800)‎ and British elections, largely on the basis that they do not cover the same entity - it was not just a name or area change - the UK is a merger of two separate kingdoms (Ireland and GB), so I don't believe elections just for GB should be in the UK template. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  21:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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Henman Hill
Thanks :) Have done - JVG (talk) 15:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

List of British Prime Ministers by nicknames
Lists cannot be Good Articles, so this nomination will fail unless you withdraw it. If you want List of British Prime Ministers by nicknames to be a higher class, you'll have to take it to Featured List candidates. Nikki 311  22:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

An interesting list, but the GA process doesn't deal with lists. I suggest that you nominate at featured lists; there's no "good lists" process. I'm going to remove this article's GA nomination, and wish you luck with it at FLC. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

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Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice
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As a regularly contributing UK Wikipedian, we were wondering if you wanted to contribute to the Oxford bid to host the 2010 Wikimania conference. Please see here for details of how to get involved, we need all the help we can get if we are to put in a compelling bid.

We are also in the process of forming a new UK Wikimedia chapter to replace the soon to be folded old one. If you are interested in helping shape our plans, showing your support or becoming a future member or board member, please head over to the Wikimedia UK v2.0 page and let us know. We plan on holding an election in the next month to find the initial board, who will oversee the process of founding the company and accepting membership applications. They will then call an AGM to formally elect a new board who after obtaining charitable status will start the fund raising, promotion and active support for the UK Wikimedian community for which the chapter is being founded.

You may also wish to attend the next London meet-up at which both of these issues will be discussed. If you can't attend this meetup, you may want to watch Meetup, for updates on future meets.

We look forward to hearing from you soon, and we send our apologies for this automated intrusion onto your talk page!

Addbot (talk) 20:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

List of Prime Ministers of Bangladesh
Do you know how to put solid black lines akin to those in the Brown Ministry? Therequiembellishere (talk) 23:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Children of Dune 1.jpg
Thank you for uploading Image:Children of Dune 1.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Inara Serra1.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Inara Serra1.jpg. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of fair use, but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets Wikipedia's requirements for such images. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check


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 * That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Media copyright questions. --FairuseBot (talk) 01:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Hugh Gaitskell.jpg
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Hugh Gaitskell.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Richard Pinch (talk) 14:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Time for resolution
Hiya. For several months now, the article naming for 18th Century British royals has been ever-which-where — all over the shop. In an attempt to solve this, I have prepared a page for discussion: here. Please, please, please come and discuss, even contribute to the Poll. Cheers! DBD 15:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Tony Blair at PMQs.jpg
Thank you for uploading Image:Tony Blair at PMQs.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stifle (talk) 11:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Ambassador/Minister
Thanks for the excellent solution to the minister/ambassador problem on George W. P. Hunt. I have never used that governor template before, so I did not know about its possibilities. •Life of Riley (talk) 19:46, 31 December 2008 (UTC)