User talk:Phillip Black

Lindsay
Hi

I noticed your edit on the John Jesnor Lindsay article

Can you tell me where you got the info from so that I can add a reference for it?

Welcome to Wikipedia, I hope you will consider editing other articles as well as this one :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 02:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi don't know if this is how I should reply but I am the main reference for this edit. I worked at the laboratory that processed Lindsays films and had direct dealings with him. The technology of the time was that films were shot on 16mm reversal film (ektachrome) then edited and duplicate negatives were made from the edited master in what we called double rank were produced to mass duplicate 8mm prints two negatives were required as there were two 8mm formats std/regular 8 and super 8. I don't know of any web sources for what was the methodology of those days although a book called "Your Film and the Lab" would give some clues. I could write a page that explains the chain of production of package films as we called them if that would be useful. I altered the estimate of the number of films he made based on my memory of his throughput with us and other producers. While the number of copies was considerable the number of titles was limited. I don't know where the 4000 number comes from but my guess is that somewhere another zero has been added and 400 would be more likely.


 * Yup, if it was 4000 he would have needed to make one every 2 days for 20 years !
 * Unfortunately we need secondary sources, something along the lines of an interview in a magazine or a report on him would be best. We cannot use anything that cannot be verified so I am afraid using your knowledge would just get deleted on the grounds that it could not be checked :¬(
 * If you manage to find something, or remember anywhere it may have been published, then I would be more than happy to help you add it! Chaosdruid (talk) 22:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

You could cite the Intv with J Lindsay in the DVD "Naughty" where he is shown making one of his loops with an Arriflex ST 16mm camera if that helps.There were never any proffessional machines for bulk duplication from 8mm originals. I note that the 4000 figure has no quoted source.
 * I have already put that to 400, explaining that it would mean a film every 2 days etc.
 * I will see what I can do on the 16mm topic, though further info would be useful or a screenshot? Chaosdruid (talk) 00:13, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * how do I post a screenshot?
 * Here is a link to two pictures taken from the documentary "Naughty" by Stanley Long which shows Lindsay filming one of his shotrs with a 16mm camera http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=053534669_JOHN_LINDSAY_ARRI_01_122_443lo.jpg

You need to upload them with the link in the left of the screen, under toolbox in my view and "upload file".

Click the screenshot option (don't bother with commons as it is a much more complicated system and it will probably not be allowed) There will be some details coming up, to which you would need to put the answers as:

|Article          = John Jesnor Lindsey |Description      = Lindsey filming on 16mm camera (from documentary film) |Source           = Screenshot |Portion          = Full frame |Low_resolution   = No |Purpose           = To show that Lindsey filmed on 16mm camera as there are no sources available which demonstrate this |Replaceability   = None |other_information =

Lastly there is a drop down for licensing - select "movie screentshot" and a banner should appear with a clapperboard in it, now you can click the upload button at the bottom of the screen and it should magically appear :¬)

Once the image is on you can insert it with Chaosdruid (talk) 22:11, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi can't follow your advise as I don,t seem to be a confirmed or authorised user.


 * You need to have made 10 edits to articles to be auto-confirmed it seems, and then you can upload.
 * If that is a problem, getting those other 7 edits, you can always try working on some badly written articles and correct a few spelling mistakes or punctuation. There must be one or two on the Lindsey article...I am sure I can see at least four or five punctuations that can be changed there to start you off! Chaosdruid (talk) 16:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

OK thanks


 * I know I could also do it for you, but I really wanted you to be able to make the contribution. Your last comment looks almost like you are giving up, which I hope it not the case!. We need new editors and every little contribution is helpful. Chaosdruid (talk) 10:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)