User talk:Philofiler

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Philofiler


A tag has been placed on User:Philofiler, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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November 2013
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Raymond Tallis. While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 14:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --Philofiler (talk) 14:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I've deleted the link to magazine. Happy now?

March 2014
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Philosophy Now info
You might want to find better ways of inserting your Philosophy Now links into several articles you recently edited. I've noticed you've provided one sentences and a link but little explanation of why those sentences are important. Explain more of the material. I reverted your mention on the Rilke bio because (a) you don't just say essentially "see this for more information" in the lede or body of an article, that's not how to write an article and (b) you need to talk about the idea and provide then support the claim with a reference. Approach it in the body as "Rilke's views, etc. etc...." to explain a little why it matters to understand Rilke better, then provide the link as a reference. As for Berdyaev‎, the material is inappropriate for a lede, I moved it to the section discussing his philosophy. I would advise you to add more about why Putin thinks it was important for his governors to read it. Right now just saying "Putin advised his regional governors to read it" without adding why it was important makes the sentence read like the type of trivia we seek to avoid. Consider this as you look at the dozen or so edits you've done today regarding Philosophy Now material. --ColonelHenry (talk) 15:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC) Thank you - that is useful advice, and I will seek to act on it in further edits. Philofiler (talk) 15:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

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Writing about and linking to Philosophy Now in every edit you have made
Hello, Philofiler. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Philosophy Now, you may have a conflict of interest.

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 * Thank you. Although I have a close familiarity with Philosophy Now, I believe the magazine contains many useful and relevant facts which need to be brought to the public attention.  However, I understand that you would like it that I do not highlight the magazine itself, which I can do (and will do).Philofiler (talk) 10:08, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not that I'd "like" it, it's just basic Wikipedia policy that an editor with a conflict of interest shouldn't make edits relating to that interest. Given that the one reference I checked had Philosophy Now misquoting a simple press release, perhaps it would be better to use other sources for whatever information you have learned from reading the magazine. --McGeddon (talk) 10:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello again. You still seem to be adding a link to the Philosophy Now website in every edit you make. Could you clarify whether your "close familiarity" means that you have any kind of conflict of interest regarding the magazine (either professional or personal), as defined at WP:COI? --McGeddon (talk) 11:28, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

I have no such conflict of interest.Philofiler (talk) 15:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for clarifying. Philosopher Michael Davis has noted that an apparent conflict of interest (where you don't have one, but you are behaving in a way that would cause a rational observer to think that you did) can be as damaging as an actual COI. If you're reading things in your Philosophy Now magazine and finding that Wikipedia doesn't cover them, that's fine, but I'd recommend a quick search for another source that backs up the same information before adding it, in future. --McGeddon (talk) 15:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Without wishing to labour the point, I don't believe I even have an apparent conflict of interest. While it is true to say that a majority of my edits on wikipedia are sourced from Philosophy Now, it is fairer and more accurate to say that a majority of my edits are on subjects and from sources which interest me - which is true for almost all wikipedia editors. If you feel any one - or more than one - of my edits are inappropriate in some way, then by all means re-edit them. But my concentration on a single source is not really different than a fixation with a particular sports team, or a myopic focus on a particular type of fauna etc. There cannot be a requirement that all wikipedia editors are generalists.

However, the separate point - that my edits might be seen to be promoting the magazine in some way, is more valid. If my edits are promotional, then this is inadvertant. I will try to reduce the number of links I make to the magazine, while still trying to distill the most useful information from it. This, we can agree, is exactly what wikipedia editing policy requires.Philofiler (talk) 15:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * So far as I can see, every single addition you have ever made to Wikipedia has either included a Philosophy Now link, or been an edit to the Philosophy Now article itself. Your personal user page also used to say "More information about Philosophy Now magazine is available on the webpage, here" until you were told to remove it. Up until the point where you explained that you didn't actually have a conflict of interest, this seems broadly indistinguishable from how a person might behave if they were trying to use Wikipedia to promote a magazine. --McGeddon (talk) 16:24, 23 July 2014 (UTC)