User talk:Phin68/archive

ANI thread and reply
First of all, I'd like to let you know that I have filed a thread at the Administrators' noticeboard/incidents here regarding your edits. I know you likely want to help the project — after all, it's not like you're vandalizing or creating hoaxes — but you've just made so many mistakes in such a short period of time that it's very concerning. As for the list, I tagged it with db-author (speedy deletion criterion G7) since you, the page's author, requested deletion. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 19:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I once said if I get blocked again I'll leave Wikipedia. I'm leaving now and bye. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 19:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that. My intent was not to scare you off, just to steer you in the right direction since you seemed to need a lot of guidance. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 19:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't see you were ever blocked, according to the log. One admin discussed it as a possibility, but that's not the same thing. Frank  |  talk  19:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * When I ANI report and a block I said I think I should leave. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not sure I understand. It's always your choice to stay or go; even when someone is blocked it is through their own action, not because someone wants them gone. If you'd like to learn how things work and contribute, there are many folks who are more than eager to help. Several of them have been trying right here on your talk page. At any rate, for the moment, you have not been blocked, and if you don't do anything to warrant a block, you won't be. If you disrupt the project long enough, enough times, or in serious enough ways, you will be. The integrity of the project comes first. Frank  |  talk  19:58, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I was about to say the same thing. You haven't been blocked yet, and if I were an uninvolved admin looking at this case I'd probably give you a little more time first. What concerns me the most, though, is that you seem to show no interest in doing anything different, despite the very many warnings you've received. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 20:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Even my warning today about the copyright issues with the list was using the boilerplate text to explain why I removed the episode summaries from the list. It mentions blocking as a possible consequence of repeated infringements, because the Wikipedia Foundation takes copyright seriously. However, I don't see where you've repeatedly committed these infractions, so I have no intentions of blocking you based on your conduct to date.
 * Remember also that a lot of us have been around here for several years and have seen things before. Take the userboxes: several of mine used to have logos and pictures, but they got purged when the crackdown on use of non-free images happened several years back. So, the part of the explanation of "This has happened with userboxes before, and here's why it's not allowed" might have been missing, but the core of the explanation - you can't use non-free images in userboxes - was conveyed. (Comment: the dachshund picture I have in one of my userboxes? I looked long and hard for a free one in the Wikipedia image library.)
 * There are a number of editors who've shown themselves to be vandals, and I've quickly shown them the door. You are not one of those types of editors. The comments on your talk page are here to try to help you. I made the comment to another editor in a discussion that I think you've got good potential, and I still think that. I also think that there are aspects of Wikipedia that you don't have a good grasp on yet - and the early close of the AfD mentioned today is one of them. We're here to help you, whether you want to formally get a mentor to guide you through the process, or whether you want to informally ask one of us any "Why can't I...", "How do I...", or "What's the best way to..." questions that come up in your editing. —C.Fred (talk) 20:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * To late. blocked indef and if you unblocked me they would undo it. after all, the truth is that I'm a bad editor. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 01:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You were given ample opportunity to contribute constructively, and while I think the block came a little too soon after this thread, you should understand that "indefinitely" does not mean "forever" - it means "for an undetermined period of time". If you have a real interest in contributing, you can go through your talk page, your "complaint" page (which is highly provocative in itself), the contributions others have made that you have removed from both pages, and think about ways you could contribute constructively. If you do that, and wait a while (not an hour, not a day) and show that you have some idea of how to move forward in support of this project, you can certainly try for an unblock again, below. I am not saying it would be granted, but it has happened in the past. You should also be aware that if you make multiple frivolous requests for unblock, this page will be protected as well, and you would not be able to make further requests here. Frank  |  talk  01:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for encourgement. I've seen many blocked users go crazy with the { {unblock} } template and I never ever thought of using it more then once. I might use the template one more time if you say so. by the way, Thank you again for good admin advice. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 01:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * (outdent) I'm sorry to see that you have been indefinitely blocked. I've added my opinion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents in your favor. It appears to me that the most of the other editors are encouraging you to request an unblock after a waiting period. So my suggestion is:


 * 1) Wait a couple of weeks. (Do not edit WP from your IP address because that would be block evasion.) I know it may be frustrating to wait, but you must have patience. This has been one of your problems. You seem to want Wikipedia to function with speed, but it doesn't happen that way. Discussions on WP always take time and need to run their course. While you are waiting, take to heart all the great advice the editors above have given you.
 * 2) After you have waited patiently, then request an unblock with a straightforward reason of why you want to edit WP and where you think you can best help. In your request, I would suggest that you also ask for the help of a mentor.
 * 3) If the block is lifted, stick to editing the articles that you know and like best, for example Toon Disney cartoons. Keep it simple while you are learning all the policies. I think with a little patience and the willingness to learn from other editors, you can certainly develop into a fine editor. Good luck. — Cactus Writer |   needles  14:12, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I would add that you can certainly spend some time reading instead of trying to edit. It will be beneficial to read policies, follow edits of articles by other editors, and generally find your way around here. Frank  |  talk  15:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Blocked
I have just blocked you indefinitely due to disruptive editing per consensus on WP:AN/I. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text  below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. —  Aitias  // discussion 20:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Help me
I'm not trying to hurt anyone on Wikipedia. I've been over the top the past few days and today I thought that being adoudted may be okay. I am curruntly blocked indef and I think the only article I'll be editing will be my talk page. By the way, can you please help me?

I'm not placing this { {helpme} } up to be unblocked to help edit my talk page smoothly. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 02:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Firstly, don't subst the helpme template, makes it hard to remove. Secondly, to be adopted you'll need to be unblocked otherwise it's a pointless endeavour. Point is this, nobody will help you whilst you're indef blocked and until an admin unblocks you through the unblock template there's no point asking. If you're not looking for an unblock then you're being needlessly disruptive after your statement saying how you'll leave if your request for unblocking is declined and I don't see why you shouldn't be prevented from editing your talkpage either. Listen to what people are saying for once and take their advice because if you leave it to yourself to figure it out that hole you dug just gets deeper. For clarity, please know that I feel you're simply not competent enough to edit here, maybe it's your age or maybe it's your attitude, I don't know and really don't care but what I do know is you have shown a staggering inability to listen to anyone or learn from mistakes. You cry for help but never heed it so why bother with you? I have long since passed the threshold for AGF regarding you so yeah, leave if you're going to leave. treelo  radda  02:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)