User talk:Phoenix Apollo

Talk:Shinji Ikari
I'm not sure what more proof you want. In End of Evangelion, Misato explicitly states that humans are "the eighteenth angel" which means that Kaworu, also being an angel, is still the same species as Shinji. Furthermore, aside from the repeated mentions of it by Carl Gustav Horn, the writer of the English version of the manga (who includes his letters inside the volumes of the manga themselves), there is also the quote from Shinji at the end of Episode 24 of the anime. In English, it goes: "Kaworu said...he loved me. I liked him, too." While he does not say love, the quote still most definitely signifies a level of attraction. Going back into End of Evangelion, let's analyse the scene where Lilith rises up to face the crucified Unit 01. When Lilith takes the appearance of Rei, Shinji reacts by screaming and struggling against what is happening to him. However, when Lilith changes into the form of Kaworu, even though it's only for a couple mintues, and asks "is this better?" Shinji responds with "Have you been right there...the entire time?" He then smiles and submits to being used to start Instrumentality. Again, this only happens after seeing Kaworu again. Obviously Shinji is still conflicted, since he never has a fantasy about Kaworu in the same way he has one about Asuka, Rei, or Misato. He also rebukes Kaji's joking advances (the "I'm a boy" line also references that he's a minor while Kaji is a grown man) and has the "Guys don't like guys!" line in the manga, but this latter bit is most definitely contradicted in Chapter 75 of the manga when he explicitly talks about how he was attracted to Kaworu after all - suggesting denial on his part as he sorted out his feelings. As for the Kaji line, there is a moment in Episode 25 of the anime, where she comes onto Shinji in bed and he says "Stop! Misato, please don't do this." Of course, due to the confusing nature of the episode, and it being established that this is coming either from his mind, or hers, or a combination of both, this is not the best evidence, it certainly is worth noting that while he may fantasize about Misato, and Misato may kiss him and promise to do "the rest" (said in End of Evangelion as she's dying and trying to motivate him into Unit 01 no less), there is still the conscious factor that a sexual relationship between them is wrong and would not happen. Taken with the "I'm a boy" line to Kaji, it's my conclusion to say that Shinji would not actually have a sexual relationship with any adult, no matter what his sexuality or feelings towards them actually is. So any evidence for or against his bisexuality using either Kaji or Misato's actions as a reference should be looked at with scrutiny.Phoenix Apollo (talk) 18:05, 29 December 2014 (UTC)