User talk:PhotoandGrime (Pieke Roelofs)

Deletion discussion about Steve B
Hello, PhotoandGrime (Pieke Roelofs),

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Slatersteven and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Steve B should be deleted. Your comments are welcome over Articles for deletion/Steve B.

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Slatersteven (talk) 08:29, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Crime
Please read WP:PERPETRATOR.Slatersteven (talk) 08:31, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey there, wanted to let you know
You mentioned that you're an activist, and while your cause is very good - per WP:NOTADVOCACY, Wikipedia is not a place for advocacy. "An article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view". Your recent articles and edits suggest you feel very strongly about the topic and you may have a conflict of interest. You can contribute to articles you feel strongly about, but please refrain from making bold statements, using strong and suggestive language, and trying to sway opinions with your articles. Specifically, I want to point out a few cases I've noticed:


 * The Jos B article - It has since been removed. As was explained to you, he's not a notable figure.
 * The Steve B article - Its' removal is being discussed. He's also not a notable figure.
 * Julie Van Espen - She's also not a notable figure. The good news is, from my research, it seems her murder may be a notable event! You can make an article about that, but please keep it neutral.
 * You Know Me Movement - This is not a notable movement. It's a trending hashtag. For now. I plan on suggesting it for deletion.

Cheers, Alex.osheter (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Alex.osheter, it's fine to give constructive criticism, but suggesting that there is a conflict of interest while I objectively wrote all articles from a neutral point of view, provided resources and quotes with resources (and I provided many of them, all news articles), is framing. Everything I wrote in the articles came from other resources - police statements, facts from the the news - and all language was not coloured. I can be passionate about subjects and write them objectively as well, and saying 'please don't do' while I have not done so, is not a constructive way of criticism. Having an interest in a specific topic and providing resources on it and factual information, does not showcase a conflict of interest. I provided original work in bioluminescence articles as well and just because I like those topics doesn't mean there's a conflict of interest. I clearly stated my background on my user page to make sure it was known, and wrote all articles objectively, to show that regardless of my activistic work, there isn't a conflict of interest concerning the writing, which cannot be found in the writing as well.

On the You Know Me Movement: This hashtag campaign is a second wave of a previous movement that already started in 2015. Claiming it's just a trending hashtag and not a movement while it's gone over the world already (they even wrote about it on Dutch state news here) and has a previous similar movement, and the massive impact the movement is having, seems ridiculous. The literal definition of movement is 'a change or development' and 'a group of people working together to advance their shared political, social, or artistic ideas.' Stating it's not a movement is inaccurate based on the definitions of movement, and it shows on your part potentially bias towards the movement, and the person who added the article. Do you have a conflict of interest maybe when it comes to suggesting deletion of specifically the You Know Me Movement? Because I objectively wrote it, and you seem to specifically mention any writing I did related to women's rights, crimes against women, and the male offenders in these situation, and you are attempting to frame my writing, while it was objectively written.

PhotoandGrime (Pieke Roelofs) (talk) 21:38, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You have a supporter here. The best place to have an impact discussing is the section for this article on the Delete page.Dogru144 (talk) 02:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Dogru144 Thank you! To add to the above, maybe Alex.osheter should think twice before making comments such as 'She's also not a notable figure. The good news is, from my research, it seems her murder may be a notable event! You can make an article about that, but please keep it neutral'. A little more respect when talking about women who were murdered would suit you Alex. PhotoandGrime (Pieke Roelofs) (talk) 12:07, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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friendly reminder
No matter how justified you may be in objecting to what someone else has written about you, anything on-wiki that suggests you would pursue the matter off-wiki is considered a violation of WP:NLT. This is generally interpreted very broadly, and some of what you posted about a third party on my talk page might be so interpreted. It's a common way of abusing WP process for A to bring about an exchange which frustrates B into doing something we consider inexcusable. B is then blocked, and A wins. Be careful not to fall into the trap.  DGG ( talk ) 21:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the advice DGG, I appreciate it. I've been dealing with constant harassment 24/7 (as you can probably tell if you search for my name in Google News) and I can't believe it has extended to here - this felt like a safe place. I do know people try to provoke me constantly, and your reminder is honestly appreciated. I'll keep it in mind and am going to distance myself from this discussion because frankly it's not good for my mental health to have a community I enjoy ruined like this. I hope you can look into what's going on - I just noticed this specific user has also tried to undo edits (and reverted it) by the user who contributed to the page about me and who called out their bullshit, and they did so on a completely different page. It almost seems like they want to let the user  (and maybe me) who contributed factually and well sourced to the page about me, subtly know they are watching the people who contributed to that page.. This scares me because it is a somewhat similar pattern my abuser (a public person) has done too of which there is evidence. My abuser would 'let me know' he was watching me or people who associated with me in very subtle ways. For example, he would 'follow' (with his public person account) a friend of mine on Twitter; a subtle way to let me know he 'watches' me and people around me or anyone associating with me in some way. I won't link to it here, but if you search online for my blog, the evidence is shown in a post there. At any rate - thanks for the reminder.