User talk:PiRSquared17/Archive 1

Chinese people descend from Homo Erectus Pekinensis and NOT anatomically modern African Homo Sapiens Sapiens like everyone else
Thanks Again. Your help is muchly appreciated. Tlarco29 (talk) 00:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Dear PiRSquared17,

Thank you for your good faith edits! I am scientist specializing in the fields of anthropology and paleoanthropology. I am posting the following peer reviewed scientific journals which provide verifiable scientific evidence that the modern Han Chinese people have both the genes and morphological traits of their prehistoric ancestor, archaic Homo Erectus Pekinensis, and that they are NOT descended from anatomically modern African Homo Sapiens like the rest of humanity. Of course interbreeding between the Chinese Homo Erectus Pekinensis and the African Homo Sapiens has occured to some degree, but it does NOT mean everyone in China is descended from African Homo Sapiens. All of the following scientific studies are published in verifiable and reliable peer reviewed sources such as Genetics Society of America's Genetics Journal and Oxford University's Oxford Journals as well as BMC Biology Journal of Biology.

Please watch this video from the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which is also a peer reviewed reliable source:

Chinese Academy of Sciences

Please take some to time to read the following peer reviewed and published scientific studies:

1.) Genetics Society of America's Genetics Journal, "Testing for Archaic Hominin Admixture on the X Chromosome: Model Likelihoods for the Modern Human RRM2P4 Region From Summaries of Genealogical Topology Under the Structured Coalescent" by Murray P. Cox, Fernando L. Mendez, Tatiana M. Karafet, Maya Metni Pilkington, Sarah B. Kingan, Giovanni Destro-Bisol, Beverly I. Strassmann and Michael F. Hammer.

2.) Oxford University's Oxford Journals, Evidence for Archaic Asian Ancestry on the Human X Chromosome by Daniel Garrigan, Zahra Mobasher, Tesa Severson, Jason A. Wilder and Michael F. Hammer

3.) Oxford University's Oxford Journals Global Patterns of Human DNA Sequence Variation in a 10-kb Region on Chromosome 1 by Ning Yu, Z. Zhao, Y.-X. Fu, N. Sambuughin, M. Ramsay, T. Jenkins, E. Leskinen, L. Patthy, L. B. Jorde, T. Kuromori and W.-H. Li

4.) BMC Biology Journal of Biology "Y chromosome evidence of earliest modern human settlement in East Asia and multiple origins of Tibetan and Japanese populations" by Shi H, Zhong H, Peng Y, Dong YL, Qi XB, Zhang F, Liu LF, Tan SJ, Ma RZ, Xiao CJ, Wells RS, Jin L, Su B.

5.) National Geographic Society Peking Man (Homo Pekinensis) Lived in China 200,000 Years Earlier Than Previously Thought

Thank you! -- 71.68.251.209 talk
 * Uh, no. :| TelCo  NaSp   Ve :|   03:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Tom Murphy (artist)
Hello PiRSquared17. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Tom Murphy (artist), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Nancy talk  15:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It was tagged for CSD because it was deleted on simpleWP because it wasn't notable. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:40, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well this is complexWP and we have our own guidelines and policies. Perhaps it would help if you familiarised youself with our criteria for speedy deletion before tagging any more articles.  Nancy  talk  16:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Zxc123zxc123
User:Zxc123zxc123 has also made disruptive edits to the Jane Eyre article in addition to creating many inappropriate pages.--WickerGuy (talk) 00:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I am too new on this Wikipedia to report to AIV. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:41, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

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Should I move a page?
The move was requested by User:Lindenhurstlib (here), a user without autoconfirmed status. The page had previously been deleted. Should I move it to the article namespace? πr2 ( talk  •   contributions ) 17:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Which page? Diego Grez ¡aprende a llorar! 17:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * User:Lindenhurstlib/Lindenhurst Memorial Library πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 17:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think, but the article should be cleaned up. --Diego Grez ¡aprende a llorar! 17:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll try to clean it up. πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 17:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Don't agree
I disagree with your tag because you CAN get cans of Coca cola in large size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheEggs12 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll redirect it for you. πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 01:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Pengguna:Mauk111
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 * I just moved that to the user namespace. I, if I could, would have supressed the redirect. Just as a note, Pengguna is User in Indonesian. πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 17:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, there was no need to inform you of this. I should have done it manually. Christopher Connor (talk) 17:15, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. It also falls under the "redirect from article namespace to user namespace" criteria. πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 17:18, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer
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 * Thank you! πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 18:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Cruise lake wilderness park
Hello PiRSquared17. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Cruise lake wilderness park, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Does not rely on a page that does not exist. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a note: the article that it redirected to was created after the redirect, so my tagging was valid at the time. πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 21:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fine. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:08, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

speedy declined
Hi PiRSquared17!

I have declined the speedy deletion of Talk:Federal University of Petroleum Resource Effurun, as there was an acceptable revision to revert to. It's always a good idea to check the history of a page before tagging for speedy, as it may be a valid page that has been vandalized. In those cases it is almost always better to revert rather than delete. Regards,  (talk) 18:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

re: remember me?
no it was toxicwastegrounds or georgiegibbons MC JayQuinncool MC JayQuinncool 21:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Template:Cross-over leilo and stitch cango
That template was used in the article List of American Dragon: Jake Long episodes. It was initially blank and I wanted to know where the template linked to. Can you please help me find the correct non broken template. :P --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 23:13, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify? πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 23:46, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What I mean is that that article uses this template but I do not know what is the correct template. I tried going back in history but it seems all revisions use this template. I just wanted to know whether this template was previously deleted or not. --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 00:13, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up
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Reflinks
I noticed that you've used "reflinks" alot elsewhere. Does it work for cite book templates or just cite web? If it works with books, could you use it for Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime)? :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  04:11, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Cite web only (I think). πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 16:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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MOS:TR listed at Redirects for discussion
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Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Tiny Rascal Gangsters
Hello PiRSquared17. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Tiny Rascal Gangsters to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking....  23:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, but it has been recreated under many different names and deleted many times, even on other language wikis. πr2 (t • c) 23:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * Thank you very much! :) πr2 (t • c</i>) 04:45, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

 * Thank you and I'll remember to use cv next time. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 16:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Your creation of Ade Olufeko
You recently created Ade Olufeko through Articles for Creation, a submission which I previously declined as lacking substantial sources. The article still lacks substantial sources and I don't think it should have been created, therefore I nominated it for deletion, you can find the discussion at Articles for deletion/Ade Olufeko. Thank you. CharlieEchoTango ( contact ) 18:13, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * umm... Okay I guess. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 18:59, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Mataji Krishna Priya and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sri Sadguru Mataji Krishnapriya
I recently patrolled a new article called Mataji Krishna Priya, which I tagged for issues with its sources and neutrality. In trying to look up some background about the article, I came across Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sri Sadguru Mataji Krishnapriya, which is an identical article, which you declined on its creation. You also noted that there were issues with the sources. However, you also noted there may be issues with notability. Can you clarify and/or add tagges to the mainspace article as necessary? Thanks! Singularity42 (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Topic:SailTimer
SailTimer should not have been approved in current form (unless the explanation of their own product is incorrect, it should never be approved). Declined for good reason by: USer:Ktr101 USer:Chzz USer:GorillaWarfare USer:Alpha Quadrant

184.175.17.118 (talk) 16:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * Thanks! :) nom nom... <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 13:08, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help on the small wiki chat. It was extremely interesting and educational! -   &#x0288;  u coxn \ talk 03:23, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! You're always free to return to #cvn-sw (where you need to be "voiced" to "speak") or #wikimedia-gs (it's off-topic for that channel, but nothing ever happens there anyway :P). <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 03:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Greenpois0n article revision
Hi PiRSquared17! User:Cantaloupe2 wrote a question for you on Talk:Greenpois0n and I'm not sure whether you saw it, so just posting a note to let you know about it. Thanks. Dreamyshade (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm going to be busy this week but I'll look into it when I'm non-busy again. Thanks for notifying, <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 20:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

re:Creating pages about Chittagong on small wikis
Hi! Sorry about the vandalism! I have already stopped it! Yes, I created those with some translation tools. I wanted to have the article translated in those wikis! I'm not doing this anymore! You can reply to this message here at your talkpage! Thanks -- Zayeem (talk) 09:58, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: please check your translations more carefully! For example, your Yoruba translation uses the phrase "ilu titobijulo". I checked with a Yoruba friend of mine (i.e., a dictionary :P) and got this translation:
 * "ilu" means "city" and is correct
 * "titobi-" = "greatness"
 * "-julo" means "most or like 'est' in 'greatest' (superlative)"
 * So it's false, because Chittagong is the second largest city, not the largest one. I'm going to have to check all these translations. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 16:26, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops, it means "Second largest" (because of "keji"). You're getting good at this. :P May I ask how you're getting these translations? I'm the one who needs to "check translations more carefully", sorry. I'll write here only if I'm 100% of a problem. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 16:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I was actually taking the hint from the similar articles on a particular wiki and put it on creating the article on that wiki. I'm not using translation tools anymore! Is it okay? Thanks! -- Zayeem (talk) 12:36, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.5em;width:20em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;margin-left: 1.5em;width: 90%;"> Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved.
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 * Yes that is mildly bizarre. Still, as an editor of note, you probably appreciate getting Templated every now and again eh ...sorry 'bout that! <b style="color:Green;">Basket </b><sub style="color:orange;">Feudalist  17:27, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

yes they can be merged, akan vs twi
Akan is aka Twi. I think the early creators of the akan wikipedia and two wikipedia thought there was a difference in the two terms.

But in my own opinion, maintaining the akan wikipedia is instead good. If possible, the two wikipedia should be taken away.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkansahrexford (talk • contribs) 22:36, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Wikipedia by Language.svg
I've corrected the typo and moved it to commons. drewmunn talk 16:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 16:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Testing new messages notification thingy
... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirsquared17 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Meta: "a specific kind of mess"?
Hi. I saw your comment. I did not write that article. I only wrote some comments. At the top of the article it says "By Tony1". Maybe you could ask him to clarify the article concerning the number of pages in English on Meta. --Timeshifter (talk) 07:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Satyagraha House and Joburgpedia

 * reply ... small wiki monitoring team? Well done.

Hi PiRSquared (nice name), well this isnt my project. Satyagraha House is part of a Wikimedia ZA project called Joburgpedia. I have been helping a lot but its lead by three South Africans and sponsored by the Swiss chapter. There was a an editathon at Gandhi's house yesterday and that was where the six languages were started. The project is targetted at Soweto mostly, QRpedia and African languages. I was a $1000 flight away so I could only join then via an editor. If you are interested in the project then search for Joburgpedia and you should find the work so far. If you sign up or edit a few Joburgpedia articlers then that would make us all smile:-) Thanks for the interest. Victuallers (talk) 21:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Flow Newsletter
Hey PiRSquared17. I'm dropping you a note to let you know (or remind you) about Flow, the structured discussion system for Wikipedia that we're building. You may have heard about some of the longer-term vision for Flow in the past, but in the last two months we've been moving quickly to narrow down the short-term scope of the project, and we're keen to get feedback.

First: we've written up an explanation of the "minimum viable product" – the set of features that will be in the first, on-wiki deployment. Because discussions on Wikipedia are complex and varied, we're approaching Flow development as an incremental process of uncovering user needs for different types of discussion. The first release will be limited to a few WikiProject talkpages only, with the goal of testing out our first stab at peer-to-peer discussion functionality and improving it based on feedback from the WikiProject members who use it. If you've got any thoughts on the MVP, or on the philosophy we're trying to follow with this software, let us know on the Flow talkpage. If you know of a WikiProject that might be interested in testing this out, let Maryana know on her talkpage :)

Second: we're having a set of discussions around some experimental features we'll be trying in the first release. These include indenting and nesting of comments and comment editing. If you've got any practical thoughts on these, we'd appreciate hearing them. For background and feedback on the design, there are the ongoing set of design iteration notes, a Design FAQ, and a page for design feedback.

The software prototype is still in early development, and changing daily in small ways, with major goals updating every 2 weeks. If you've got comments about other bits of the software, we'll be holding an IRC office hours session in #wikimedia-office at 18:00 UTC on 17 November to talk about Flow as a whole, and fielding questions on the talkpage before and after then.

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Thanks, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * Just missed it? Well, I'll at least read the logs. :-( <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 22:29, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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define irony
I was visiting your talkpage on meta, to ask for some routine help with HardSecurity screwing up my work, but started getting 404 errors from the meta.wikimedia.org server farm. Like, a lot of errors. So, rather than post a message about my minor problems with some badly-thought-out bot, instead I switched gears, and wrote you a note about the MINOR EMERGENCY that at least some of wikimedia was effectively down.

Editing User talk:PiRSquared17 (new section) Jump to: navigation, search

This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Comment bot edits from IPs

Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be recorded in this page's edit history. Subject/headline:

MINOR EMERGENCY, have seen five three 404 errors when clicking show-preview-button, or add-topic-tab, on meta.wikimedia.org (but none over on en.wiki earlier today) during the past fifteen minutes

Clicking back button, and trying again, works. Maybe one of the webservers in the farm is busted, and when I randomly get directed to that one, I get the errors? ~

Ah. The same bot, that is elsewhere preventing me from working with a group founded to improve the friendly-ness of wikimedia, is also now preventing me from reporting a serious server outage/misconfiguration. At times like these, my heart swells with joy, that I can consider myself a member of the tribe of folks who love wikipedia, and will do anything to defend her, including metaphorically tear each other limb from limb, over the correct grammatical handling of the word 'been', and whether local television coverage in three states is as good of a reliable source as 'national' coverage via the internet in two fifth-tier news-zines. Well, I have plenty of gumption, so I tried quite a few edits, trying to trick the bot into letting me do what would help wikimedia.

(several attempts later)

MINOR EMERGENCY, have seen five three 404 errors when clicking show-preview-button, or add-topic-tab, on meta dot wikimedia dot org (but none over on enWiki earlier today) during the past fifteen minutes

Clicking back button, and trying again, works. Maybe one of the webservers in the farm is busted, and when I randomly get directed to that one, I get the errors? preceding signed message was blocked by the 'comment bot edits from IPs' rule, which is utterly ironic since I was *just* coming to this talkpage to complain about that damn thing which is hindering my constructive work *elsewhere* on wikimedia ... 74 dot 192 dot 84 dot 101, see my metawiki talkpage for my complaints about abusefilter rule fifty , see my en dot wikipedia dot org user colon talkpage if you want me to be able to respond. Let us try clicking submit once again, shall we?

But of course, bots being bots, there was no progress at all. I also got several more 404 errors, during my editing cycles; the problem appeared to grow worse over time.

So, I suppose I could have just registered a temp-account over at meta, and then trashed it later. Surely you jest? That would just lead to me getting banned, as a sockpuppet. Sigh.

I still had *some* gumption left, so I decided to visit the same admin over on the main wikipedia website. They are already in favor of SoftSecurity, they've already contacted me about some edit (one not blocked by a bot oddly enough) over on meta, they have the permbits necessary to get the 404 trouble fixed, plus are also a botmaster in an area related to the AbuseFilter rule that is screwing up my life now. Perfect, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PiRSquared17 "Please leave urgent messages on Meta for a faster response."

I tried. I did. I really tried. And was prevented.

So here I am, composing a nice note, about a server problem that will no doubt have long been resolved by now. Or maybe not... I guess it depends on whether the problem in question is somehow only triggered for not-logged-in editors, in which case, maybe those 404 errors have been happening for months. Nahh... surely the webserver-sysadmins have some kind of automated error reporting, which pulls 4xx and 5xx info from the raw apache and nginx logfiles, without penalizing anons simply for being anons. Well, I hope they do, anyhoo.

Anyways, my gumption for dealing with 404 problems on the meta server-farm is exhausted for today. If you cannot reproduce the trouble, give me a ping -- over on my en.wikipedia.org talkpage where I'll be able to actually you know so to speak respond -- and I'll see if I can capture you some HTTP headers, or the IP of the offending node in the server-farm.

As for my other difficulty, where the bot is blocking me from Righting Great Wrongs, that I would still appreciate assistance with. Prior to the fiasco documented above, I wrote up a somewhat-harsh, but methinks totally justified (especially in view of the saga above which had yet to occur) list of complaints about rule#50 and the bot which mindlessly enforces it, despite having no active owner anymore.

Please see over here -- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:74.192.84.101#request_change_from_disallow_to_warn_for_the_.27comment_bot_edits_from_IPs.27_rule_.2350_in_the_AbuseFilter

I will probably link from that page, to this one... but I will exercise incredible restraint, and avoid updating the now-to-my-eyes vastly inadequate suggestions therein, to correspond to my new understanding of the level of evil destructive pox on humanity enemy of all that is good and right in the universe 'comment bot edits from IPs' malware... perhaps you can understand this decision, I fear that the *new* rant I might write, were I to start editing the commentary over there about the poor design decision that is abusefilter rule number fifty, would quickly leave objectivity behind. I henceforth consider rule number fifty my personal enemy. Please alert it to the fact that its days are numbered, if I have anything to say about it. :-)    Oh yeah, nevermind, as if it will care... it is just a bot, after all.  Since you have the necessary admin-permbits, PiRSquared17, perhaps I can hire you to perform an assassination of a particular bot, which has crossed me one times to many?  I promise, this is not a vendetta, merely me trying to think of the good of the community, all the editors it will someday bite, the future of wiki.....   rrrrrr do i hate that little bot of wikipedia, what a wonderful world it would be if SoftSecurity were the norm, why cannot we all just get along?  I pay in gold.  SRSLY.

Sigh.

Thanks for your time. Sorry about the WP:WALLOFTEXT. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:46, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

p.s. moments before making this edit to my meta.wikimedia talkpage : 18:31, 22 October 2013‎ 74.192.84.101 (talk)‎. . (12,490 bytes) (0)‎. . (→‎request change from disallow to warn for the 'comment bot edits from IPs' rule #50 in the AbuseFilter: swap wansui for banzai since the latter is a disambig-page) (undo)

I had clicked save (the first time... above is the second time to click save), and was presented with this disconcerting-to-say-the-least message, instead of my expected page of talkpage conversations about bugs in the wikipedia codebase:

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User_talk:74.192.84.101#request_change_from_disallow_to_warn_for_the_.27comment_bot_edits_from_IPs.27_rule_.2350_in_the_AbuseFilter User talk:74.192.84.101 Jump to: navigation, search There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page.

Clicked back, clicked save again, and upon reload looked 'fine' again. No mention in the history of the page being deleted... so, not an editor or an admin trying to blank me, just a stupid misconfigured server somewhere.
 * Just noticed this message here. Already replied on Meta. Will be gone for 2+ hours. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 22:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I also got a reply from MF-Warburg, but I cannot reply on my meta-talkpage about 50% of the time any more. Anyways, although the 404 was reasonably urgent, my own bot-problems are not so urgent... because misbehaving bots like this only screw up the lives of editors by destroying WP:RETENTION, rather than screw up the lives of readers like the 404 errors.  I am pretty determined to get the bots fixed, however.  Thanks for reading my wall of text; I'll collapse it now.  If I fail to reply to you on the meta-talkpage, please check over here.  Or we can move the discussion to my enWiki talkpage, if you prefer.  Thanks 74.192.84.101 (talk) 23:11, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I replied on Meta. Summary: I disabled two filters that were getting lots of false positives, and replied about the others. I'm willing to consider disabling some of the other filters you mentioned, as they are frankly not very useful. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 02:00, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Appreciate it, as I mentioned over on the other page. But my real problem is not so much with any specific filter-ruleset.  My real problem is with WP:NICE and with WP:RETENTION.  I've become reasonably convinced that a big reason wikipedia has been stuck at 30k active editors (10% of them admins) for many years now is because of WP:BITE.  There is a vicious cycle in play:  admins don't have time to be nice, because they rush from fire to fire.  (This applies to acting-admins as well... wikipedians who volunteer on huggle/stiki/npp/afd/etc duty who do not yet officially have the admin-bit.)  Botmasters don't have time to be nice; their bots are the only thing keeping the overburdened admins sane, after all, and preventing wikipedia from descending into chaos.
 * But the result of this rush-rush-no-time-for-pillar-four culture among admins, and the similar who-cares-about-false-positives-it-is-only-a-few-n00bs-out-of-thousands-of-vandals culture among botmasters, is the cause of why admins and botmasters have no time. Incremental improvements in how WP:NICE the bots are, will help improve WP:RETENTION.  Anyways, at the moment my short-term goal is to get the abuse-filter-boilerplate-errmsg changed from YOU ARE HARMFUL into something actually friendly and helpful (i.e. links to a human talkpage or human IRC chatpage or both).  But my long-term goal is to start retaining 500 new editors per month, and go from 30k active admins 100k, then to 300k, then to 1m, then to 3m.  Most of them will not be RfA-qualified, but if we WP:AGF, all 3m of them will be qualified to be WP:NICE to each other, and to future beginners.
 * Plus, the shortage of botmasters and vandal-fighters and anti-spam-warriors will be solved, as a bonus -- there will be plenty of volunteeer militia to defend wikipedia then.
 * Anyhoo, I will visit the various talkpages, and see if I can answer your questions. Now that I can post on my own meta-talkpage once again, and yours as well, would you rather have conversation about 404 and rule#57 and rule#50 and such over at one of those?  You can ping my enWiki talkpage if I don't respond promptly, of course.  But I suggest we pick a place to centralize discussions, so the RFH reviewers (or anybody else I can get interested in bot-problems) don't have to read temporally-disconnected chunks of text in four different places.  Thanks, and thanks for improving wikipedia.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 14:04, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Flow Newsletter - November 14
Hi. This is a brief note to let you know about an update to the Main FAQ (the addition of a large table of Components of the discussion system), and also to specifically request your feedback on two items: our sandbox release plan, and a draft of the new contributors survey. We look forward to reading your input on these or other topics - Flow can only get better with your ideas! –Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:red; background-color:fff; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

 Pr at yya  (Hello!) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.  Pr at yya  (Hello!) 04:48, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message! :) But you don't need to give me templates here. Have a good day, <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 05:44, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Open all pages in edit mode
Village pump (technical)/Archive 121

Xaris333 (talk) 19:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * For example, a list of "What links here".
 * How Wikipedia:Linky_tutorial#Optimize_your_speed_using_Linky-lists works?
 * I did what you say but how I "paste in a list of page names separated by newlines". I can only write one page.
 * Maybe I'll look later. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 05:44, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Data again
Hi there! Coming straight to your talk this time as it doesn't seem like VPT needs to be the venue any more.

Could you please do another transclusion count? This time for redirects to Template:WikiProject* that do begin with "Template:WikiProject" or "Template:WP" (case insensitive). Thank you! —  Scott  •  talk  14:50, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for delay, was busy. paste/view/53ba6daa (although it seems some were deleted since you counted?) <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 15:32, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem at all, I thought that would be the case and waited to see if you were active on Meta before pinging you. Thanks again - and yeah, some have been deleted. —  Scott  •  talk  19:08, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Since you seem to be the man of the moment for wishlist bugs...
...I'd be interested to see your comments on the feasibility of (Special:WhatLinksHere should allow invert namespace selection). Best, —  Scott  •  talk  14:40, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It definitely seems feasible. I don't think it would be hard to implement. I might attempt it, but I'm busy for the next weeks. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 15:13, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You might not have noticed, but I did this on April 26. Just waiting for review. 129933. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 16:32, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I hadn't. You're the best! —  Scott  •  talk  16:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the code review taking so long. The only change since I first submitted over a month ago it was adding a period to the tooltip (which is not in the other tooltips anyway). I thought it would be merged by now. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 15:00, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

WD link counter not working
Hi last time you helped to solvemy problem, so I am again here. Since last few days the number is showing 0 zero, I am using Firefox 29.0 and vector skin. Please let me know what to do.--Mrutyunjaya Kar (talk) 17:43, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Try replacing the third line with:
 * , l = label.siblings.find('ul#p-lang-list li.interlanguage-link').length
 * If that doesn't work, remove the ".interlanguage-link" part. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 01:30, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, now I am able to see the total number again (after changing the third line).--Mrutyunjaya Kar (talk) 07:15, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Hakka Transliteration tool available?
Hi PiRSquared17,

I would like to know if a Chinese character --> Romanized Hakka (Pha̍k-fa-sṳ) transliteration tool has been set up online? For example, this Kyrgyz transliteration tool.

If it currently does not exist, would you be able to help set it up online?

In this way, any strengths and weaknesses of the transliteration tool can be identified, thoroughly tested and new chinese characters/words/vocabulary can be added in to the system database to further perfect it. --Hak-ngìn (talk) 03:37, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * here, or just test it on this wiki (you need to register an account there to edit; just enter "Nupedia" for the "Wikipedia's predecessor" CAPTCHA). What should the default variant be? Simplified, Traditional, or Romanized? <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 13:35, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the links! I am very impressed.
 * In answer to your question, Hakka Wikipedia currently allows both scripts (Traditional and Romanized) to be used although the simplified script can also be used if they choose to. I do know of other Hakka users in Taiwan and other countries which prefer writing in Romanized Hakka. However many Hakka in the Mainland China and Southeast Asia prefer writing articles in Traditional Chinese characters (with Hakka grammar of course). Therefore this conversion tool would be greatly useful in the long term on Hakka Wikipedia. --Hak-ngìn (talk) 15:30, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Could we please move this discussion to MediaWiki.org? I don't edit the English Wikipedia much and it's not relevant here. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 17:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem, I will discuss at MediaWiki.org in the future. --Hak-ngìn (talk) 19:42, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Footnote preview – a thank you
Hi, I promised to help pass on a thank you for your work on the footnote preview function. Thank you. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 14:01, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Seconded - that is a very handy feature. Cheers!-- Elmidae  (talk) 18:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll add my thanks as well!
 * &mdash; D'Ranged 1  VTalk  00:16, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 23:18, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you. I can't believe I finally got my first barnstar on enwiki, even though I rarely edit here. Sorry it took so long for the patch to be merged though. IIRC I wrote it a year or two ago. <b style="color:#f90;font-family:Arial">πr2</b> (<i style="color:#0f3;font-family:Arial">t</i> • <i style="color:#03f;font-family:Arial">c</i>) 23:21, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure which of the barnstars (This one or the citation one below) is more appropriate, but I'll happily support both. :)Naraht (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
In recognition of your making the addition of citations so much easier. Maproom (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

My thanks too. That was a huge improvement. Akld guy (talk) 18:15, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

I was delighted to come across this too - no longer have to enter