User talk:PianoPedagogue

Welcome!
Hello, PianoPedagogue, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, your edit to Feldenkrais Method‎ does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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November 2020
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Feldenkrais Method; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, PianoPedagogue. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Hemiauchenia,

Thank you for your message! PianoPedagogue (talk) 00:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Further to this, reviewing your edit history I notice Feldenkrais-related material being added to Dorothy Taubman, citing pages at alanfraser.net which are not accessible to our readership, and also (and this is curious given your stance elsewhere) citing blog posts. Please be aware of Wikipedia's policy on WP:PROMOTION. Also, since it is known off-wiki attempts have already got Feldenkrais providers to try changing this article, be aware of WP:CRONY. Alexbrn (talk) 09:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Alexbrn,

I have exactly zero conflicts of interest, financial or otherwise. The additions you are referring to are simply reverts to the previous version of the page which existed up until August 7th, 2020.

Nice try though. PianoPedagogue (talk) 15:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * So from your comments you've been editing before with other accounts? Alexbrn (talk) 16:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

What? No.

I was not involved in any previous edits, nor do I have the slightest clue who wrote the version of the page that existed for many years.

You seem to be trying awfully hard to police my contributions. PianoPedagogue (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

A bit on refactoring your own comments
Hi PianoPedagogue. Thank you for working on improving your RfC. You should review WP:REDACT and WP:REFACTOR before going much further, as it's inappropriate to simply change your own comments after someone has replied to them. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 04:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Wiki allows editing for clarity and readability. The content has not changed.

PianoPedagogue (talk) 16:18, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Please remove . I'm afraid you're grossly mistaken at very best. Thank you. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 17:15, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Googling for that text I find what PianoPedagogue is referring to - quite an effort of "opposition research" to ferret that out!, you do understand that many Wikipedians - especially those editing in controversial areas - attract imposters who post shit on the web to try and discredit them? A moment's thought should clarify what you think you've seen is fake. Alexbrn (talk) 06:57, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't consider doing a simple Google search of "" to find previous comments, only to be barraged by advertisements for his services "opposition" research."

That written, it took exactly as much "opposition" research as it took to wrongly accuse me of being a Feldenkrais Practioner and having edited under a previous account.

When you remove you comments, I will remove mine. PianoPedagogue (talk) 16:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Asking questions is not the same as falsely "noticing" things about others. What goes on between you and Ronz is now up to you, but I would advise leaving a known false allegation to stand is not a good look. Alexbrn (talk) 16:31, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Neither is your concerted effort to get Gorski quotes put in as many articles as possible.

What is your relationship with Gorski? How often do you communicate with him privately? Have you ever met him in person? Do you stand to benefit, either financially or otherwise by aggressively promoting his work and acting as his defence any time there is a conflict over one of his citations? PianoPedagogue (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No/None × 4. I'm very happy to be transparent about who I am - you can find out pretty much everything about me quite easily (hint: nothing's remarkable or suspicious, at least Wikipedia-wise). I'm not sure how that relates to your false statements about other users though. Alexbrn (talk) 16:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Take the up with the poster of this advertisement:

PianoPedagogue (talk) 16:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You crossed a line when you started posting quotes from off-wiki sources. Please do not do it again. Primefac (talk) 20:05, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

PianoPedagogue, please refactor. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

A lengthy welcome
Hi PianoPedagogue. Welcome to Wikipedia. We seem to be having some difficulties communicating. I hope you don't mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as a new editor on Wikipedia:

If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Wikipedia by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You'll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily in collaboration.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

If you have a relationship with the topics you want to edit, then you will need to review Wikipedia's Conflict of interest policy, which may require you to disclose your relationship and restrict your editing depending upon how you are affiliated with the subject matter. Regardless, editing in a manner that promotes an entity or viewpoint over others can appear to be detrimental to the purpose of Wikipedia and the neutrality required in articles.

Some topic areas within Wikipedia have special editing restrictions that apply to all editors. It's best to avoid these topics until you are extremely familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines.

If you work from reliable, independent sources, you shouldn't go far wrong. WP:RSP and WP:RSN are helpful in determining if a source is reliable.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 20:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Hipal,

Thank you for your welcome. PianoPedagogue (talk) 20:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)