User talk:Piasevol

Getting started
Hey! I started this Wikipedia account in order to do a project for my Intro to Christian Theology class at Boston College. I'm a little overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of the site that I once described as my "easy and go-to destination for quick answers". I now see how much goes on in the community end of the site. Can someone please help me as I start a page for this project? I don't even know if this is the forum to address this but I guess I'll see what happens.

Filip Piasevoli 23:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I was patrolling new editor's contributions and I found your request. In the future, you can tag a help request on your own talk page with helpme and it will notify people that you are requesting help. I assume you want to write a new article. The best place to start is by reading Your first article. Some additional places to look for help include New contributors' help page, Editor assistance/Requests, and Help desk. I hope you find these useful. Good luck. Elizium23 (talk) 00:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Help request

 * This is re. - this help request was moved here from the article talk page; it's best to use  here, on your own user talk page  Chzz  ►  22:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

hey, i'm doing this page for a college project. please help me with any formatting errors you may notice since i'm new to this

Filip Piasevoli 17:29, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

am i referencing my sources correctly in terms of formatting?? {| class="wikitable collapsible collapsed" ! How references work
 * I'll take a look, back in a minute. --joe deckertalk to me 22:31, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile two tips;
 * Vector toolbar with signature button.png you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

Simple references
These require two parts;


 * a)

Chzz is 98 years old.

He likes tea.


 * b) A section called "References" with the special code " ";

Named references
Chzz was born in 1837, in Footown.

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates
You can put anything you like between, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals.

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.  Chzz  ► 22:39, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * }

Looks like Chzz has beaten me to answering, but here's my notes:


 * I've made a couple changes to the first two refs, and left the third alone but it could use a few touchups. Mostly what's there is pretty good, but here are some suggestions/issues.  First, I personally like to use the cite templates, like the article had for reference 2, even though they're a little hard to read, they really do help with the formatting. Here are a couple issues I did address:
 * Where you did use the cite web template, the publisher should probably be the name of the organization, something like "Boston College" rather than ".bc.edu". It's okay to (and even useful to) put that in double-square brackets if the organization has it's own Wikipedia article, and i've done that in the examples.
 * A couple things I haven't fixed:
 * The "author" in cite 2 should be the person who is listed as the person who wrote the web page, I'm not sure that's true for the second reference.
 * When I put a citation after a period in a sentence, I always get rid of the space between the two.
 * Now, while those templates are a pain to write out manually (okay, not that bad, but still a bit fussy), have you seen the various interface helpers that let you fill out cite templates like a form? They're really helpful, and it should be turned on by default for you, here is some documentation, but drop me a note on my talk page if I can help with this or anything else!  --joe deckertalk to me 22:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

One more thing, and I don't want to flood you with info, but this is actually important too, even though it's not about formatting. In general, we want to add references to sources that are secondary sources, typically newspapers articles and books, WP:SECONDARY talks a bit about this. While it's likely that Boston College's web site is reliable enough to verify that someone is a professor there, our notability guidelines usually require that someone be significant enough that multiple people independent from the article subject have written about him or her--the reasoning is, that gives us the best chance of having the article be written from neutral information, rather than (say) promotional. This isn't an absolute, nobody would look askance at you referencing a birthdate or a professorship from the Boston College sites, but it will help the article if you can base it on reliable, secondary sources. WP:RS is a lot to read, but it's really a core principle around here, and if you have any questions, feel free to drop me a line. --joe deckertalk to me 22:54, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot guys, i'll get right on tweaking all those parts you guys suggested. As for the secondary sources, I will definitely be bringing in secondary sources when confronting his ideals discussed through his works. I just figured for an accurate catalog of his degrees and previous employment info, the BC site would be ideal and as unbiased as a site can be when listing straight facts of where he studied and worked. Again, i really appreciate all the help.

Filip Piasevoli 23:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Help with David Hollenbach, S.J.
{tn|helpme}} am i referencing my sources correctly in terms of formatting?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piasevol (talk • contribs) 21:18, 6 April 2011

This request was moved from Talk:David Hollenbach, S.J., re:  Chzz  ►  18:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

i'm trying to cite parts of my article using sources i've already cited and i would like to keep wikipedia from creating a new number for a citation that i've already used. please help me

Filip Piasevoli 17:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

You can do that via the ref tag. The first time you make a reference, put all the information, like this:  The second time, just put   (replacing the word "Something" with any name for your reference.) Jsharpminor (talk) 18:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Named references example

Chzz was born in 1837.

Chzz lives in Footown.

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

See also Referencing for beginners  Chzz  ► 18:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Piasevol, next time you need help, please put the here, on your own user talk page. Thanks,  Chzz  ► 18:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * P.S. I have 'named' the reference to "Social ethics in the making: interpreting an American tradition" in the article; see this edit.  Chzz  ► 18:17, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Infobox for David Hollenbach, S.J.
can someone please direct me to how i can go about putting a box on the David Hollenbach page where i can add a picture and quick biographical information??

Filip Piasevoli 18:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that Template:Infobox Academic is what you're looking for. There's also an example on that page for you to see.  Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * If that one isn't suitable, there is the more general Template:Infobox person, or a whole lot more listed at WikiProject Biography/Infoboxes. A good way to find out how to use it is to find another biographical article and see how it is used there. JohnCD (talk) 20:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Piasevol - I went ahead and added the academic Infobox for you, filling in some of its parameters. You can keep it or not, but at least you can see what an Infobox looks like.  Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 20:25, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

hollenbach wiki
David Hollenbach, S.J. (born October 6, 1942 in Philadelphia, PA.) is both the current University Chair in Human Rights and International Justice and Director of the Center for Human Rights and International Justice at Boston College. Aside from being a full time professor of Theology at Boston College, Hollenbach has taught at Hekima College of the Catholic University of Eastern Africa, Nairobi, Kenya, The Jesuit Philosophy Institute in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, and the East Asian Pastoral Institute in Manila, Philippines. He is also a consultant to the Jesuit Refugee Service.

Education, Career, and Influences
Hollenbach first received his B.S. in physics from St. Joseph's University in Philadelphia, PA, followed by his Ph.L. from the College of Philosophy and Letters and his M.A. from the Department of Philosophy at the same institution in 1968. He went on to receive his M.Div. from Woodstock College in 1971 and his Ph.D. in Religious Ethics from Yale University in 1975.

After receiving his B.S. in 1968, he went on to teach at Georgetown University until 1969. From 1976-1991, Hollenbach was the Professor of Moral Theology at the Weston School of Theology in Cambridge, MA. Up until November 2009, Hollenbach held several positions in the Catholic University of Eastern Africa's Hekima College in Nairobi, Kenya. From there, he went on to assume his current positions of University Chair in Human Rights and International Justice and Director of the Center for Human Rights and International Justice at Boston College.

Regarding his membership in the Society of Jesus, he joined September 7, 1964. Hollenbach was ordained into priesthood on June 5, 1971. He acts as the Higher Education Secretary within the society, he is also the advisor on global collaboration of Jesuit universities on human rights.

Hollenbach draws from many theologians, including Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, and Jacques Maritain.

Partial Bibliography

 * Claims in Conflict: Retrieving and Renewing the Catholic Human Rights Tradition. (1979)
 * ''Nuclear Ethics: A Christian Moral Argument" (1983)
 * Justice, Peace, and Human Rights: American Catholic Social Ethics in a Pluralistic World (1990)
 * Catholicism and Liberalism: Contributions to American Public Philosophy (With R. Bruce Douglass)(1994)
 * The Common Good and Christian Ethics (2002)
 * The Global Face of Public Faith: Politics, Human Rights, and Chrisitan Ethics (2003)
 * Modern Catholic Social Teaching: Commentaries and Interpretations (2005)
 * Refugee Rights: Ethics Advocacy, and Africa (2008)
 * Driven from Home: Protecting the Rights of Forced Migrants (2010)