User talk:Picaroon/Archive 7

References to Advanced Fee Fraud (419) on the Nigeria page
Hi Picaroon,

I noticed that you moved the reference to Advance Fee Fraud to the Economy Section. Kindly review the (rather extensive) discussion on the Nigeria talk page which discusses how this information is not really appropriate under that section. Similar crime related information is decribed under "Demographics" and "Crime and Punishment" sections of other country, state and city pages e.g. USA. I have moved this information back for that reason. Ajisekanla (talk) 09:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Centralized TV Episode Discussion
Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a few) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here. --User: (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm involved in this issue? Picaroon (t) 22:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Nigeria
Hi. You appear to be one of the most active members of WikiProject Nigeria (and the only user name I recognize), so I'm letting you know that I created an assessment for the project. You can view the Editorial Team pages in Category:Nigeria articles by quality. I also added the assessment table to the project page, but you may want to move it around. Note, the statistics are not accurate as of yet. It shows 768 total articles, but this is far from the exact total (I suspect there may be upwards of a 1000 or more). The project will require multiple passes to get better numbers, and I suggest starting by emptying Category:Unassessed Nigeria articles and monitoring Africa-related regional notice board/New articles. You may want to request a Nigeria-related feed. Thanks. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 09:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There are at least 1500 Nigeria-related articles, but not all have WikiProject Nigeria on their talk pages. Picaroon (t) 22:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to the quality-rating, and might do it from time to time, but importance rating doesn't place on my to-do list. Picaroon (t) 04:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Disputed images and No original research
Hi Picaroon,

I've proposed an amendment to No original research that would strengthen (or more accurately, reiterate) the requirement of editors to reliably source interpretations of images in articles. This would particularly apply to depictions of allegorical or symbolic artworks or artifacts, where the meaning was not immediately clear or was subject to differing interpretations. You can see the text of the proposed amendment at Wikipedia talk:No original research - please feel free to leave comments.

Another editor involved in the discussion has suggested providing an example of "an actual ongoing dispute to illustrate the problem". I believe you're active in editing or monitoring articles in controversial subject areas, and I was wondering if you were aware of any such ongoing or recent disputes. It would specifically have to concern something like an illustration of unclear meaning, which editors were disputing what it represented, maybe because of a lack of reliable sourcing about the image itself or about its interpretation. If you've come across anything like this scenario, could you please chip in at Wikipedia talk:No original research? -- ChrisO (talk) 22:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No disputes over images jump to mind as fitting such a situation. Talk:Race of Ancient Egyptians/Archive 10 doesn't seem to be what you're looking for. Picaroon (t) 22:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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Military of Nigeria
This isn't helpful. Picaroon (t) 01:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree. --NEMT (talk) 01:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Let me be more specific: This isn't helpful to Wikipedia. Nor are other such edits, which you have made before. Please desist with the vandalism. Picaroon (t) 01:31, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's get one thing straight: that wasn't vandalism, it was a typo. Sorry for gate crashing, but WP:AGF.  I'm not speaking Swahili, here. --NEMT (talk) 01:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

JOG
Maybe this should be undone now? Leaving it up to you though since you did the initial blanking. User:Dorftrottel 10:18, January 26, 2008
 * Thanks for telling me. I'm unsure whether it should be reversed, so I've added a link to the history for the time being. Now, to find an arbitrator. Picaroon (t) 23:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

African Projects
To a degree, you're right about saying that there probably won't be a lot of interest in many of the African projects, until and unless something dramatic happens in the area. However, it is reasonable to try to make sure that all the articles are assessed, and that individuals interested in those articles be able to fairly conveniently access the articles relevant to their particular subject. In a sense, those so-called "projects" are actually just subprojects of the main Africa project with the bigger "WikiProject" name, much like the various subprojects of WikiProject Australia. And, like the Biography project has found out, it also makes sense to try to subdivide big projects into smaller ones so that the 1.0 bot doesn't get overpowered with the number of articles relevant to a given project. If there will be sufficient interest in each individual area to justify a project, I honestly somewhat doubt that to a degree in at least a few cases. As a form of "accounting function" for the various African nations for the main Africa Project, they do make sense. I personally anticipate most of the discussion will still take place at either the notice board or the main WikiProject Africa page for most of the nations most of the time.

To an extent, these might just be in many cases a way for a few number of editors to keep track of the articles relevant to a particular nation. If those editors are interested in the subject, though, then the articles on individual nations are clearly important enough to I think justify the various new groups. There are already more than a few religion projects which have few if any active editors, but those projects have in some cases managed to get several of their main articles to GA class or better anyway, and I think that if we can help improve the content of several of the important articles with a little extra emphasis on the nations, that it's probably in the best interests of wikipedia as a whole. I hope.

Also, by creating them all now, using the same banner, we'll help ensure that there aren't separate banners created for each of them later, and then maybe having the project go inactive and have the banners replaced or removed. Maybe that's not a good answer, but it's the one I had in creating them. John Carter (talk) 18:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Nigeria banner
I think it shouldn't be a problem integrating the parameters, although it may take a few days to get to it. I can also set up separate importance parameters for each African subproject. I managed to do it with South America, which has substantially fewer subprojects, and it shouldn't be very difficult to do it with Africa, if maybe a bit time-consuming. And I've changed the talk page archiving to 14 days. Thanks for calling my attention to that. John Carter (talk) 00:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

ArbCom Addition
Picaroon, I don't mind if the decision on my name being added to Ehud Lesar ArbCom is made by an administrator. By neither VartanM, nor Fedayee nor Eupator represent any authority whatsoever to do so, especially VartanM doing so by 2 reverts today. So can you please, explain this to the three fellas, who turned even ArbCom page into a battleground of reverts. Otherwise, it looks like they can feel free bossing around, and admins remain pretty much indifferent. Thanks. Atabek (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've left you as a party, added LaraLove, and sorted the groups of users so the reason you are listed as involved is clear. Picaroon (t) 00:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Not my sock
FYI, User:Librorum Prohibitorum is not my sock puppet, this throwaway account is my (Hkelkar's) sockpuppet. I have no idea who Lib really is. Nice move blocking him on dab's favor, btw. Run a checkuser and confirm yourself. Also please indefblock this account. Hkelkar4 (talk) 04:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This account blocked per your request, thanks. On the subject of Librorum, who besides you disruptively sockpuppets on both India and Judaism related articles, seemingly attempting to aggravate certain other users? The only other user I've had suggested to me as a puppeteer was a user who stopped editing around a year ago, with no apparent motive for returning with disruptive puppets. Nevertheless, I've replaced the tag suggesting you with {{subst:indef}} to indicate my uncertainty about which puppeteer this was.


 * And no, I didn't block him at Dbachmann's request - I suspect you won't believe me, but that's not my problem. Picaroon (t) 21:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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W. Frank
I suspect "Pularoid" is another sockpuppet of W. Frank. Check his contributions. Jose João (talk) 08:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * File another check here if you wish. Picaroon (t) 21:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Victoria Island
No I hadn't seen it. Thanks for pointing it out. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Africa banner
Please add the existing terms for the collaboration and infobox paremeters from the existing Nigeria banner with a "Nigeria-" prefix to get the articles placed in the appropriate categories. For the other terms, they're already built in for general usage. Sorry for the delay. John Carter (talk) 00:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Requests for arbitration/IRC
This arbitration case has closed and the final decision may be found at the link above. Giano is placed on civility restriction for one year. Should Giano make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, Giano may be blocked for the duration specified in the enforcement ruling. All parties in this case are strongly cautioned to pursue disputes in a civil manner designed to contribute to resolution and to cause minimal disruption. All the involved editors, both the supporters and detractors of IRC, are asked to avoid edit warring on project space pages even if their status is unclear, and are instructed to use civil discussion to resolve all issues with respect to the "admin" IRC channel. For the Arbitration committee, Thatcher 04:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Fatah flag.svg
Hello there, I'm the uploader of the Fatah flag image. The image was deleted about a week ago, so I re-uploaded it with a different license. I need to know how I could keep it. Do I have to lower the resolution? How do the Hamas and Hezbollah flags remain? Just need some advice. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 05:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I'll be honest with you. I added the license without really knowing what it means. But I think the image does meet the fair use criteria. Its certainly not replaceable, it will be used only when necessary, its significant to the subject, it was published outside wikipedia, etc. Anyhow I'll add a fair-use rationale tomorrow; I'm going to sleep right now. Thanks for the info, I think it could save the image. Good night Al Ameer son (talk) 05:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

A Quick Thank-You
Picaroon, thanks for telling me about that edit on my talk page. I checked my other edits, and some were missing parts of the articles. Thank you. --Lando5 (sign/talk) 16:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

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