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AfC notification: Draft:Timothy Freke has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Timothy Freke. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 22:14, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Timothy Freke (November 19)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 22:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Timothy Freke has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Timothy Freke. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
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Pieeternal257 (talk) 04:01, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

I am not sure why the last submission said that notability did not change since 2015. According to the rules of notability Timothy Frekes coauthorship of a very notorious/famous work "The Jesus Mysteries" should be enough to warrant him a Wiki page of his own. Its almost like the content of that work is being judged in order to not permit its author to not have a page. Let me know what you want me to change. I have looked at other authors in his field with less recognition who have Wikipedia articles of their own, some based on one work.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Timothy Freke (December 1)
{{subst:Afc decline|full=Draft:Timothy Freke|cv=no|reason=bio|details=|reason2=|details2=|comment=This draft, as written, does not appear to indicate that one of the biographical notability criteria is satisfied. If one of the criteria is satisfied, please revise this draft appropriately, with a reliable source, if necessary stating on the talk page or in AFC comments which criterion is met, and resubmit. It is the responsibility of the submitter to show that a subject satisfies a notability criterion.

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An article on this author was deleted after a deletion discussion in 2015, which found that the subject is not notable as an author (or otherwise). This draft was declined two weeks ago stating that it does not establish notability. In particular, it does not show that the subject has become notable since 2015. This draft has been resubmitted again without addressing either the concerns of the participants in the AFD or the reviewers. If the author thinks that the subject is notable, then they should explain what notability criterion is satisfied, in AFC comments, or on the talk page of this draft.

This draft has been declined because of notability concerns. This draft should be resubmitted by addressing the notability concerns in AFC comments or on the talk page of the draft. Do not resubmit this draft without explaining how it satisfies a notability criterion. Do not simply add references, or make minor changes, without explaining how it satisfies a notability criterion.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Timothy Freke (December 22)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 05:28, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Timothy Freke
Template:Timothy Freke has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. David Biddulph (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

December 2020: Please stop trying to get Freke into Wikipedia
User:Pieeternal257, for over a month, your sole intention, as a Wikipedia editor, has been to get an article on Mr. Freke published and live on Wikipedia. What that tells me is that you have no interest in Wikipedia, only in Mr. Freke. This is confirmed by taking a look at the draft you have written. The sourcing is very light, being primarily to an esoteric bookshop and an extremely uncomplimentary book review which, not favorably, compares Freke's book to the one being trashed. On a blog. The book you cite I am not familiar with, but if it's the most solid source you could find, I doubt it can support an entire article. The handwriting is on the wall. Please read it, and abandon your draft before things get any more ridiculous.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:05, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Timothy Freke


Hello, Pieeternal257. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Timothy Freke".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗ plicit  06:40, 22 June 2021 (UTC)