User talk:Pilotmichael

Bias against paid editing
Paid editing is allowed as long as the person creating the article declares they are paid, on their User page. There are paid editors who promise more than they can deliver - if the person, company, whatever is not notable according to Wikipedia's standards, then an article about same is at risk for deletion. David notMD (talk) 01:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exploring Wine Regions (September 14)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DGG was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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 DGG ( talk ) 23:46, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Exploring Wine Regions has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Exploring Wine Regions. Thanks! Salimfadhley (talk) 22:51, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exploring Wine Regions (October 14)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Delta fiver was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Exploring_Wine_Regions Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Delta_fiver&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Exploring_Wine_Regions reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 13:48, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exploring Wine Regions (January 31)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Eternal Shadow was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Exploring_Wine_Regions Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eternal_Shadow&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Exploring_Wine_Regions reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Eternal Shadow  Talk  03:19, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Exploring Wine Regions has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Exploring Wine Regions. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 20:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Theroadislong Thank you for the feedback. What sources are reliable sources for films? Curious, Wikipedia has an article on IMBD which gives the impression it is reliable. No where in the Wikipedia IMBD article does it say it is not reliable. And if it is truly not reliable, why is it accepted in Wikipedia? I want to get this right. Thank you for your help. Pilotmichael (talk) 00:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

I found a couple of independent movie reviewers and added their reviews. Pilotmichael (talk) 01:53, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Exploring Wine Regions has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Exploring Wine Regions. Thanks! Fiddle  Faddle  21:59, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
Hello Pilotmichael. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Pilotmichael. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. ''I note the comment by at the head of your talk page. I had considered that as a level one warning, but have decided to assume good faith and lack of understanding of Wikipedia'' Fiddle   Faddle  22:15, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

FIRST: This assumption is NOT correct. I AM NOT BEING COMPENSATED, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, FOR MY EDITS. SECOND: Also not correct. I am not adding any personal information about other contributors.

Pilotmichael (talk) 23:03, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Are you the book's author? If so then you are being compensated, broadly construed, and must make that declaration
 * Your release of personal information on the AFC Helpdesk has been redacted by a member of our oversight team. See WP:OUTING, something I have now mentioned to you for the fourth time. Fiddle   Faddle  23:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I have already disclosed my conflict of interest from the beginning prior to starting on this page. However, I am not compensated!

Pilotmichael (talk) 23:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I have not released any personal information, and certainly not for the fourth time. You keep making broad statements, nothing specific about what you think I am doing. I do not know any personal information about any of you, so there is nothing to release.

Pilotmichael (talk) 23:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Now that it has been clarified at the articles for creation help desk that the anger and attacks are not necessary and the anger deleted, we can get on with getting this article properly formatted. Pilotmichael (talk) 21:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

So Basically
If you keep doubling down at this rate you may be seen as an editor not here to build an encyclopedia and you would get indefinitely blocked from editing here. If, which is by far one of the most tolerant and accommodative editors in this collaborative project is getting tired of your manner of editing it says a-lot about you. Just stop already. Celestina007 (talk) 01:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Doubling down on what?

Pilotmichael (talk) 01:31, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Exploring Wine Regions has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Exploring Wine Regions. Thanks! Worldbruce (talk) 14:55, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Exploring Wine Regions has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Exploring Wine Regions. Thanks! Worldbruce (talk) 15:36, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021
In your recent edits to Draft:Exploring Wine Regions you removed two reviewer comments. These remain part of the review history and are there to guide other reviewers. They are not to be removed. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 12:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Exploring Wine Regions has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Exploring Wine Regions. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 20:39, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Exploring Wine Regions
Draft:Exploring Wine Regions, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Exploring Wine Regions and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Exploring Wine Regions during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 21:43, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Exploring Wine Regions (April 19)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Exploring_Wine_Regions Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reasons left by Timtrent were: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Wikipedia is not a platform for advertising your book

Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 22:01, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Your email
Yes as I was not required to. If you look a couple of sections up you were notified about Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Exploring Wine Regions. That was the place to discuss it. You should have followed the link and explained there why the draft should not have been deleted. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 23:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

I am trying very hard to make the page comply with Wikipedia standards. In my view it meets and exceeds the criteria. You will notice that the person initiating to delete my page has a serious conflict of interest. Above you will see his partial attacks on me. I simply asked for help and all I got was attacked. Then finally, another Wikipedia editor stepped in and clarified. After that, this attacker deleted many of his attacks. I asked that now that this is resolved, lets get back to the original request for help. No one ever responded. No conversation. No help. Everyone disappeared when they could no longer attack me, and now help. You can see this above. Also, this attacker in a different page said to join the conversation regarding this deletion, yet no conversation happened occurred. Further, I made several attempts to converse with the editor who rejected the page last time; however, he never responded. Even another Wikipedia editor said they pinged him, and yet he still ignores. I am trying to get help to do this correctly. I thought everyone was suppose to work together in the spirit of helping each other, a culture of collaborative editing? That is not what this aggravator is asserting. This book series is quite notable and meets Wikipedia's criteria. How do we get back to a professional conversation where we work together to meet the criteria to everyone satisfaction? Pilotmichael (talk) 00:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)


 * You need to retract your baseless allegations. You also need to read with care what has told you below. Your behaviour here has been of the tyoe that does not endear you to the community.
 * You will find that nothing here is deleted, It is all a matter of record in the history of the various interactions you have had with others. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 09:59, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Pilotmichael/Exploring Wine Regions


A tag has been placed on User:Pilotmichael/Exploring Wine Regions, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 12:44, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for declaring your conflict of interest. That doesn't mean you can write what you like, you must follow the guidance below:
 * you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation or company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company or organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
 * The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
 * significant coverage in
 * independent,
 * multiple,
 * reliable,
 * secondary sources.
 * Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.


 * You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.
 * There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article.

Looking at your activities here, I seriously considered blocking you in view of your combative and disruptive engagement with other editors either as not here to create an encyclopaedia or as a persistent spammer making little attempt to follow our rules. I've given details of what is required in terms of independent third-party sources and notability, and I'll tell you now that a promotional blurb is not the same as an article, we want real facts, not opinions or spam. Take this as a final warning Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:58, 29 April 2021 (UTC)