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Editing love & hip hop hollywood
Hey, could you flesh out the plots and details of the cast members of love & hip hop hollywood?, they need to be fleshed out too. Zhyboo (talk) 02:48, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Recurring characters of love & hip hop hollywood
The recurring characters of Hollywood's love and hip hop need to be fleshed out, also Zhyboo (talk) 23:33, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Love and hip hop hollywood and new york
Pinchofhppe, could you add notes to love and hip hop hollywood and new york, especially notes which tell what episodes k michelle didn't appear in and change the recurring characters to supporting if you have to. Thanks! ☺👍 Zhyboo (talk) 20:15, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

And atlanta
Don't forget to change atlanta recurring cast to suporting if you have to Zhyboo (talk) 21:46, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Love and hip hop new York and Hollywood.
Could you add notes to both new York and Hollywood and change new York's members from recurring to supporting?? Zhyboo (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

😯???? Zhyboo (talk) 00:05, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Dude, its takes a long time to flick through episodes and confirm my notes, it will get done, no need to fill up my box. This isn't my day job! Pinchofhope (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello pinchofhope how are you can I add some adjustments to the Love and Hip Hop: New York page instead of it saying "no|recurring" how about we change it to Crecurring where it's highlighted and the readers will know what recurring means I just want your approval before I go ahead and do it please and thank you oh and I can I add kaylin to the recurring list for season 3 only if it's okay with you

As a matter fact just leave it the way it is

Sorry, dude as soon as I responded back I said "well, it may take a while for it to get done" it takes long for me sometimes, so I feel you! 😕 Zhyboo (talk) 02:36, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for your thank yous
I'm always here to edit, whenever, wherever I can. You're more than welcome, always! 😀 Zhyboo (talk) 03:25, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

The haves and have nots article
Hey could you fix the format of the table of cast members in the article of the haves and the have nots? I Asked someone else but she didn't respond. Zhyboo (talk) 23:57, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me, but there's something not right with the character table in the haves and the have nots article. 1: "seasons" isn't wrote over the number of seasons and 2: Mitch (played by Brett davis) is only listed as "main" in season 4, when he had several recurring appearances in the third season. Could you fix it please. I cant, I only use phone to edit, until I have my computer repaired. Zhyboo (talk) 15:48, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't watch that show, sorry, but I'll look in to it. Pinchofhope (talk) 23:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

What happened to recurring?
You had "recurring" for love and hip hop cast members who appear in multiple episodes, but not in confessionals, why was "recurring" completely removed. "Guest" is for smaller roles Zhyboo (talk) 05:54, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Because we got in trouble with the other mods for 'stylizing' the cast lists. We had to go back to 3 categories and simplify things. Again, 'supporting' makes more accurate title than 'recurring' for those cast members, which is what I was discussing on the various LHH talk pages. People like Shirleen were always technically just 'guest' anyway even if they appeared in multiple episodes. Pinchofhope (talk) 06:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I understand Zhyboo (talk) 22:02, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Exactly which remy are you refering to?
I'm the article for love & hip hop new york, there's two cast members named remy l. Remy ma from the sixth season and remy from the fifth season, so it really didn't make sense to removed the section of the guest cast. Zhyboo (talk) 21:56, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I just read the wiki rules, but you should add each of their last names to keep away confusion Zhyboo (talk) 01:58, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Added a "cameo" template
Pinchofhope I added a cameo template for traci stelle, since I just found out they have one, that should be a fourth category for "if they appear in cameo roles". really unless it's a former main or supporting cast member, you don't necessarily have to add the cameo category to the table. Just note in the episode section if a person appears in a cameo, like you did before with bow wow, fabulous and tracu Zhyboo (talk) 05:58, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Love and hip hop atlanta
You should add Chris could back to the current supporting list, since she's gonalna be appearing in an upcoming episode Zhyboo (talk) 18:24, 5 July 2016 (UTC) I'm not sure if its an on-screen appearance though since she was so adamant that she was done on twitter and instagram after that other episode, we'll have to see until next week's episode previews or if its announced then i'll put her back. it might just be a one off ep tho.Pinchofhope (talk) 22:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Rah ali
You should add rah Ali back to the main cast table under tahiry, because she was once a main cast member, so thats what it goes by. Zhyboo (talk) 00:59, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Even if theyre recurring or Supporting out of the rest of the seasons, they still remain on the main table Zhyboo (talk) 01:01, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Love & hip hop hollywood
Are you ever gonna finish fleshing out the details of the former recurting cast members? They need to be finished Zhyboo (talk) 00:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes whatever you feel comfortable in so it's fine with me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashley168 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Pinchofhope I'm going to help you out a little bit with the love and hip hop Atlanta cast timeline for example Lil Scrappy and all of those who are not main cast members and etc. are recurring cause they have confessional screen Shirleen is an example as Supporting as she appeared as Rasheeda's mother for Season 2, Season 3 and Season 4 but now for Season 5 she's recurring cause she haves a confessional screen I'm going to make the changes if you don't like it please feel free to correct it I will see it as collective criticism okay and thank you  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashley168 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 19 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah I discussed it in the talk page and thought you already okayed it?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Love_%26_Hip_Hop:_Atlanta I said that we should use the term 'supporting' to instead describe the non-regulars who have a confession screen. So we are swapping the way the words 'supporting' and 'recurring' have been used. eg Shirleen is a recurring guest star for season 2-4 but a 'supporting' cast member in season 5. Supporting actually suits the other cast members more than the recurring label. In the hierarchy of credits it traditionally goes lead, supporting, recurring guest and guest so calling Shirleen 'supporting' and Scrappy etc 'recurring' wouldn't make much sense. Pinchofhope (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Vandals
Pinchofhope, i've been unediting a bunch of vandalisms and false information that anonymous users have added, now some anonymous user has removed the "do not appear" notes, "guest appearance" notes, "first appearances" notes and "final appearance" notes from season 1 episode list, we have to he more careful ego edits and maybe block each of the pages to prevenir vadalisms, cause theyre messing yo things Zhyboo (talk) 23:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Messing "up" things, typing error Zhyboo (talk) 23:37, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Fetty
It seems fetty wap will is a supporting cast member, according to the supertrailer, he may be appearing in the interview segments Zhyboo (talk) 22:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Rah
Rah ali hasnt been confirmed to leave The show, and youre suppose to put medeecees under joe budden and shay over benzino for love and hip hop atlanta Zhyboo (talk) 19:54, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Benzino and Shay first appear in the same episode it doesn't really matter the order and it looks better with Benzino on top considering he has a much larger role. IMO It looks cleaner with Mendeecees where he is. Sometimes we don't have to follow the rules we set for ourselves, other times its an aesthetic thing. Pinchofhope (talk) 00:23, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Episode notes
Could you add "do not appear" notes, "first appearance" notes, "last appearances" notes for main and "friend" cast membrrsand note down when a cast member is upgraded to supporting it guest stars in "the real housewives" episode details? Just do it one by one with each installment and see if you can find someone else to add the notes too. Zhyboo (talk) 22:38, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

????? Zhyboo (talk) 19:45, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

?? Zhyboo (talk) 19:48, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


 * That's a whole lot of work going through 10 shows and literally thousands of episodes. Why don't you get started? Pinchofhope (talk) 00:23, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

I'll try Zhyboo (talk) 14:39, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Where do you watch the episodes on hulu or television? I'm confused Zhyboo (talk) 02:25, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Vandalized tables
Pinchofhope an anonymous user vandalized the table for main and supporting cast members for love and hip hop atlanta, could you revert it back? Zhyboo (talk) 18:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Anonymous vandals
Pinchofhope, an anonymous user changed supporting to recurring and recurring guest to supporting, buts its fine because a lot of shows have recurring cast members and have more storylines and appearances than the main cast members, Tv tropes calls them "fake guest stars". Google "fake guest stars" it means a recurring character who appears in almost every episode and also has a main focus on the show Zhyboo (talk) 19:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Um no that not "fine"??? This isn't characters its a reality show with real people, these casts have main, supporting and guest. Its even in VH1 press releases. Three categories. NOWHERE ELSE in the entire wiki page do they use the term supporting as a "fake guest stars" or whatever you are talking about. Why are you pointlessly changing this now and especially siding with a random anonymous user who has decided to change it? I'm changing everything back. Pinchofhope (talk) 22:53, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, fine but I was just saying that all the other reality show cast tables go in the order of main, recurring and guest and I didn't say use "fake guest star" that's just a figure of speech people use for recurring characters or cast members of they appear in almost every episode and who also have a main focus within the show Zhyboo (talk) 23:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay, I understand, but if you don't want anonymous users to keep messing up things, you should keep them blocked, because I don't like them messing up things either, I tried to revert, but anonymous users don't listen and they rvert things back, so I just got aggravted and left it alone Zhyboo (talk) 23:23, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

LHH
Pinchofhope maybe you should've left it the anonymous user had it I didn't see nothing wrong with it again I'm going to explain to you "supporting" is a person who appears constantly on the show without a confessional screen while "recurring" are cast members with a confessional screen hence that's why you see other wiki pages like basketball wives la or mob wives using "recurring" they don't not have "supporting" on the cast timelines I think it's more understanding like that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashley168 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Ashley we've had this discussion, its literally on your talk page (from May of this year where we came to an agreement). "Supporting" is NEVER used within the context you're using. It is cast members right after "lead", NOT "guest stars without a confessional screen". Do you have any source where supporting is used in the context that you're describing? Are you and Zhyboo the same person? You know its against the rules to have multiple accounts. Pinchofhope (talk) 23:28, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay that's fine as long as they're not putting false information I don't see what the big deal is atleast I want no parts in editing this page just if you see something wrong it's all yours — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashley168 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Hold on, I am not ashley, I joined Wikipedia in May just last year, now you've just pissed me off, you're not making any sense here, ashley joined sometime before or after me, just cause she's agreeing with me or mentioning the same thing as me, doesn't make us the same person!!!! I'm a guy, she's a girl!!!!! I'm done!!!! Zhyboo (talk) 23:44, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Ashley joined in january!!!!! Look at my userpage vs her!!!!! Zhyboo (talk) 23:45, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

If you go to her talk page, you can see that I've sent messages to ashley a few times Zhyboo (talk) 23:53, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Use whatever you want, but you are not about to accuse me of anything and say I'm starting a war, whatever, you are not about to just make an enemy out of me, over a category, and then just accuse me of having another account, alot of users agree and think the same way. Zhyboo (talk) 00:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

And I apologize for not following the rules again Zhyboo (talk) 00:10, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The typing was similar but I apologize. No serious harm intended. Pinchofhope (talk) 00:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it's okay Zhyboo (talk) 00:52, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Protection
Don't you think we should protect the LHH pages from anonymous users, because they always mess up things, no one's done anything at the moment, but don't you think you could protect them, though? I mean, it's a good idea, because there's certain articles, like this, that need to be, once vandalisms are done literally numerous times! Zhyboo (talk) 04:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree! I just don't know how or which users to ask about that. Pinchofhope (talk) 06:17, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Head on over to Requests for page protection. Kelege (talk) 06:41, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Tammy
Pinchofhope, exactly how many episodes did tammy appear in during the fourth season, it's been a year since I've seen it and I just forgot, because i remember she wasnt at the season 4 reunion, cause I just don't have time to go through each of the old episodes, just wondering Zhyboo (talk) 23:04, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * 3. If you look at the IMDB pages, all that info is there. I update them as well.Pinchofhope (talk) 23:06, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay thanks Zhyboo (talk) 00:38, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Love and hip hop hollywood: fetty wap and ikey scene
I saw last week's episode of love and hip hop, and noticed that the scene between fetty wap and ikey included no confessionals, which is very odd. He was made the main focus (like supporting cast members) in the episode, and he should've appeared in a confessional, isn't that strange?? Zhyboo (talk) 19:34, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

? Zhyboo (talk) 20:01, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

If you have time to respond, just let me know, this is rediculous Zhyboo (talk) 20:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

????????? Zhyboo (talk) 20:44, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Whatever I did, I apologize I just asked a simple question Zhyboo (talk) 23:11, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry, what??? Yes, it is strange. Pinchofhope (talk) 23:16, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, they made fetty the main focus, in the scene with his friend ikey, as if was a supporting cast member and there were no confessionals featured in the scene, and they dont usually show people in a scene without a confessional, no reality shows have done with really, especially Love and hip hop Zhyboo (talk) 23:35, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

If he's only a guest, that doesn't make sense to give him main focus. He shouldve been in a confessional Zhyboo (talk) 23:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Winter
Winter actually appears in six episodes during the fourth season, not four Zhyboo (talk) 19:23, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

I mean in the third season of lhhny Zhyboo (talk) 19:23, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Current/former
Hey, pinchohope I noticed your rearrangements to the table of cast members, and how you removed "current" and "former", isn't that a little strange, because that's normally how the tables are arranged (please respond back) Zhyboo (talk) 00:27, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I discussed it in the talk pages and no one responded so I just went ahead and changed it. This is the format that the TV wiki mods encourage because it adheres to the rules (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Cast_and_characters_information). The "current" and "former" thing is outdated and only really on the Real Housewives pages (but they'll probably change soon too). I just thought we'd do it first before the mods start breathing down our necks. I think it works better anyway, it makes the timeline clearer. Pinchofhope (talk) 00:47, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay Zhyboo (talk) 00:50, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Format change
Hey Pinchofhope I was looking at the love and hip hop pages did a annoymous user did that to it do you want me to fix it for you so you won't have go threw the headache again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashley168 (talk • contribs) 06:40, 23 October 2016 (UTC)


 * No Ashley, the format has changed to fit the Wiki rules better. Pinchofhope (talk) 07:01, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Anonymous users
Pinchohope, I keep checking the love and hip hop pages, and the same exact anonymous user who keeps putting false information on this article, keeps putting it on the other pages, he needs to be blocked, runnyamiga has already warned him a few minutes ago but he won't listen! Zhyboo (talk) 05:06, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * We really need to get all three pages protected, this is getting ridiculous! Pinchofhope (talk) 07:52, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree! We need to find a user who knows how to protect the pages. Zhyboo (talk) 12:50, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Winter
Pinchohope is it correct that Winter Ramos appears in six episodes during the third season of love and hip hop new York, because I don't remember her appearing in the season premiere. and you noted that she appears in only four episodes and an anonymous user added that she appears in six, including the season premiere, via IMDb Zhyboo (talk) 13:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

?? Zhyboo (talk) 20:32, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes I checked she's at Joe Budden's party. Pinchofhope (talk) 22:00, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay thanks Zhyboo (talk) 22:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Link to cast update
Pinchohope could you give me the link, to the cast showing the updated cast info?, I've been looking for it Zhyboo (talk) 13:09, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

? Zhyboo (talk) 18:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Its here http://www.vh1.com/shows/love-and-hip-hop/cast  also you don't need to update with a question mark every time you ask something and I don't respond right away, I'll get to it eventually, our time zones are different and I'm usually asleep when you ask things Pinchofhope (talk) 22:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, i didn't i live in atlanta, so we're probably in different time zones Zhyboo (talk) 00:54, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, by the way Zhyboo (talk) 00:54, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Emily
Whoops, I didn't know, some sources labeled her as cuban/black and said that puerto rican and dominiqun was are nationality, although its really her ethnicity, as i just found out Zhyboo (talk) 00:31, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Was "her" nationality Zhyboo (talk) 00:31, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


 * That's ok, also kimbella's real name is kimberly, its her imdb name and on many of her official sites. i really need to update and flesh out the LHHNY bios in general they are quite spare compared to the ATL and Hollywood ones. i do that soon after the s7 press release comes out. Pinchofhope (talk) 01:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay thanks. Zhyboo (talk) 01:41, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Hosts
Pinchofhope, didn't Stephanie Gayle hosts segments with joseline and Stevie J at season 5 reunion? Zhyboo (talk) 13:41, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Let me know when you get a chance Zhyboo (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Um yeah I guess, Stefan did a bit too, its hard cause to really define a "host" in those scenes cause the format is so different from normal Pinchofhope (talk) 21:25, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Just got your message, Thanks. Zhyboo (talk) 00:22, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Peter interview
Could you give me the link to Peter's interview? Thanks if can. I like to keep Up with information of The show Zhyboo (talk) 23:27, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Please Give me The Link when you get a chance Zhyboo (talk) 23:37, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRLNoZtj2do he says they are being phased out of the show Pinchofhope (talk) 23:41, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay thanks Zhyboo (talk) 23:44, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Tweaking bios
I spaced out The bios in Love and hip hop atlanta, make sure you tweak all of them, by the way. Zhyboo (talk) 02:15, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for giving them individual pages, i've been wanting to do that for a while. Make sure you finish The season 4 and 5 individual pages for Love and hip hop: Atlanta. I always check in on the edits also. :) Zhyboo (talk) 14:52, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I'll just create the pages so you can add the photos and information. Zhyboo (talk) 20:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

LHH Individual pages
I created the pages for you, so you could just add the information. Zhyboo (talk) 20:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I created a page for the Fourth and fifth seasons. Make sure you add the rest of the information and the promotional photos Zhyboo (talk) 23:11, 11 November 2016 (UTC)


 * yes im doing it now thank you Pinchofhope (talk) 23:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

No problem, always happy to help, thank hoy also! ☺👍 Zhyboo (talk) 23:40, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you also, sorry for that Zhyboo (talk) 13:08, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Reunion
Pinchofhope, is reality check considered a reunion special, like exposed and unfiltered is?, i'm just wondering because i labeled it as one. Zhyboo (talk) 03:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * yes Pinchofhope (talk) 03:43, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks :-) Zhyboo (talk) 03:56, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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Storylines
In The article for each season, could you add a plot/storyline for what happens in each season, please? Zhyboo (talk) 19:39, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

? Zhyboo (talk) 19:03, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Its been days, thats why i added The question mark Zhyboo (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2016 (UTC)


 * yes ill get around to it eventually Pinchofhope (talk) 20:40, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Yess! Thanks so much 😃👍 Zhyboo (talk) 18:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Checking up
Hi, Pinchofhope i'm just checking up on you, because you've been mysteriously absent for days, i've been checking Up on the pages and recently Finished editing them. Let me know if you recieved my message, bye. Zhyboo (talk) 02:13, 29 November 2016 (UTC)


 * yup i've been out of town, will get back into it soon, thanks a lot Pinchofhope (talk) 03:38, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome :) Zhyboo (talk) 03:47, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Peter
I rechecked the season 3 finale For Love and hip hop hollywood and he was seen briefly and if you put it in slow motion you could see his face, so why did you remove him from The table?? Zhyboo (talk) 03:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

If they actually went to the trouble of removing him so much that you can barely see his face and literally replaced the camera shots that featured him prominently, I don't think it counts as a crossover or even an uncredited cameo ala Traci or Somaya (where they specifically had a big face shot but just didn't put up their names). Peter's "cameo" is more "deleted scenes" ala Kaleena in ATL season 1 (who was deleted and then not introduced til season 3) and Jhonni Blaze in ATL season 5 (whose scenes got deleted but you can see a half of her face and hand in the background) so I don't think its important enough to be included. Literally we are the only people who noticed it lol Pinchofhope (talk) 04:56, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Lol, true you're right that isn't really necessary to include. Zhyboo (talk) 13:55, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Correcting mistakes
Pinchofhope i just rechecked The season 3 premiere, and waka did appear in a green screen, introducing himself so he was already a supporting cast member from the start of the season. Zhyboo (talk) 13:27, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

I listed him after Kirk and after Stevie and Kirk in the season 3 article. I also listed him after dj drew on the supporting cast table. Zhyboo (talk) 19:03, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Wow I just checked again and you're right! Oops. It was brief so I must have accidentally skipped it as I was skimming through the episode for the info. Thanks! Pinchofhope (talk) 20:56, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

No problem! Zhyboo (talk) 21:26, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

I've rechecked episode 9 of the sixth season of love and hip hop: New York and DJ self was in the episode being confronted by yorma and her sister. I knew had already seen him in it before, but rechecked to really make sure. And he was also in the 8th, 10th and 11th episode also. Zhyboo (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

In the season 6 article, you added "6-7" for DJ Self instead of "6-11", just letting you know. Zhyboo (talk) 13:53, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

One Tree Hill character table.
Hi there, thanks for your recent edit on the Married to Medicine page, I am happy to be up to date with what complies with Wiki Rules in regards to tables and what doesn't, so thank you for providing a reason. However, if you do not mind, I would like to ask you to take a look at the One Tree Hill character table as I have been trying to update it to simple templates for a few weeks now, and another editor who created the tables claims that his tables is perfectly fine and its descriptive. Yet, I argue that it does not comply as it displays episode counts and its too specific, as they have listed the amount of episodes a character has appeared in for each season. So, I was wondering if you could help me out by taking a look at it and letting me know if it's something to worry about or if they are correct. I have gone back and forth with this editor, provided him with warnings of him overstepping the rules yet he is stubborn, so I have been asking other editors who are more knowledgeable on the Wiki Rules than I am to help me out. Here is the updated table I have provided for the page, that keeps getting reverted:

Main characters
The following is a list of series regulars from One Tree Hill.

Thanks for reading, and let me know if you are able to help. Thanks again! :) MSMRHurricane (talk) 21:54, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes per MOS:TVCAST "The cast listing should not contain an episode count, e.g. (# episodes), to indicate the number of episodes in which the actor/character appeared. " so that person is wrong and your table is more in line with what is acceptable on wiki. Link them to the rules and change it back. Unfortunately I'm not a mod so I can't do much more. Pinchofhope (talk) 22:10, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh great, thank you so much for helping. There is a talk going on on the character listing page if you want to join in, other than that I shall go with this and make sure he knows he's violating rules. Thanks again, have a great day :) MSMRHurricane (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Do you think the same should be done with the real housewives tables, that'd be good also. Zhyboo (talk) 22:43, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


 * You're right. Pinchofhope (talk) 02:13, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

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Pinchofhope, I recently checked the ending credits for LHH and I noticed how vh1 credited some of the cast. In season 4 of love and hip hop: new york Rashidah was also credited as "featuring" (supporting) despite not having any confessionals. In season 7 Moniece, Ashley and Asia, unlike the others, were credited as "guest" despite having confessionals. The same happen in the real housewives of Atlanta. In season 7 when Demeitra Mckinney joined as a "friend" (supporting cast member) she appeared in multiple episodes, without talking heads. And in season 8, NeNe Leakes later appeared in multiple episodes with her own talking heads, though bravo still credited her as a guest. We may have to change the cast details by how vh1 credits the cast. If they are "featuring", it means they're either main/supporting. And you may have to put Moniece, Asia and Ashley in the guest list. Also, like on other articles, we could add the list of notable guest stars to the main LHH pages. Just thought I'd let you know. Zhyboo (talk) 05:46, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

The ending credits are easier to notice if you pause during each list of credits or watch in slow motion. Zhyboo (talk) 05:48, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Jade was also credited as guest Zhyboo (talk) 05:49, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

And most of the cast members, like Sas in the fifth season of Love and Hip Hop: Atlanta, were already credited as "featuring" before appearing in confessionals. Zhyboo (talk) 05:54, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

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 * I don't really know much about the Housewives credits but for LHH I think we should keep it how it is. The confessionals is still the best way to make the distinction because the green screen cast members don't just do the episodes, they then start appearing in Check Yourself and in other promotional material while the guest stars don't. I guess Moniece and Asia would technically be considered "special guest stars" but I think we should just keep it simple, so green screen but not in opening = supporting. Moniece and Asia DID take on more of a traditional supporting role much more than say a guest star like Cam'ron even if it was just one episode/scene. I also don't think we should put guest stars in the main pages cause the cast list is long as it is and it also gives the season pages more unique content. Pinchofhope (talk) 00:15, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh, ok. You do have a point. Zhyboo (talk) 01:02, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

LHH episode lists
Maybe we should just stick to the notes within the episode summary, it wouldn't matter, but a lot of articles include both. Zhyboo (talk) 01:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Also, if you look in articles, like That's So Raven (season 4), List of Victorious episodes and List of Big Time Rush episodes, for example you'll see that they also include both the "(cast member) is absent for one episode" and "does not appear" notes. Zhyboo (talk) 05:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

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I wasn't able to figure out how the new source you added verifies the information. If it does, could you please indicated how with a quote or the like in the reference? --Ronz (talk) 23:16, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Its not coming up for me right now but there was comments like "my boo" etc. Its difficult because they've been together for years and years and very open on social media but I'm finding it difficult to find a source that outright says it in one sentence, i'll keep searching Pinchofhope (talk) 23:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Good luck. Sorry for any confusion my edit summaries may have caused. I didn't realize initially realize that three people were being independently described. --Ronz (talk) 16:22, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

LHHATL S6 INFO
https://www.ibtimes.uk/love-hip-hop-atlanta-season6-stevie-j-joseline-hernandezs-baby-drama-all-set-heat-1606006 It may be a press release or just brief info. :-) Zhyboo (talk) 04:34, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Moniece, Jade, Sofi reunion absence
P, is there anything confirming that Jade, Moniece and Sofi didn't film the reunion? Please let me know, thanks. Zhyboo (talk) 05:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Shouldn't either of them appear in part 2? Zhyboo (talk) 05:18, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

They all confirmed on twitter, Asia's the only one who came back out of the minor characters https://www.instagram.com/p/BPekVqhD_Z0/ Pinchofhope (talk) 05:30, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! :-) Zhyboo (talk) 05:33, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Supporting cast members notes
I think its a very good idea to change the notes over, it makes a lot more sense and is more simple. Zhyboo (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Anonymous vandals
Sorry pinchofhope, I meant to revert the anonymous users edit not yours. These anonymous users are really hard to deal with, smh. Zhyboo (talk) 21:10, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

That anonymous user is still being a troll, and its been literally months, it's like we keep repeating the SAME thing over and over again, smh. Zhyboo (talk) 04:10, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I know they keep changing their IP address non stop so we can't even block them. Its excruciating Pinchofhope (talk) 05:54, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

It really is, we need these pages secured. But then some of them create accounts simply to vandalize, it's so out of hand. Zhyboo (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Try this one, per Kelege's request -> Requests for page protection Zhyboo (talk) 23:55, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Pinchofhope, you should get back on your regular editing schedule, I will make sure the pages aren't messed with. Zhyboo (talk) 04:56, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Devintomas is also helping. Zhyboo (talk) 05:06, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm working different hours so I'm busy lately but will do what i can. Pinchofhope (talk) 07:06, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Link
Pinchofhope, could you link to the twitter page? Thanks Zhyboo (talk) 23:16, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * https://mobile.twitter.com/lhh_fights/status/837425409142706178 and a bunch of other places, like I've been seeing it in instagram comments, some people have a copy of the episode early. Apparently Scrappy and Joc might be added too but I haven't seen as much confirmation of that. Pinchofhope (talk) 23:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Production
The production sections are a great idea. You should do that with the other LHH pages, also. Zhyboo (talk) 01:58, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

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Whoops, that "thanks" was a mistake, I was searching through the history lol. Anyway, the LHHNY and LHHH need production sections too. Zhyboo (talk) 00:12, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

I thought that was Rod beside Jasmine, my bad. Zhyboo (talk) 14:32, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

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how do you know that the show has been cancelled and is not returning for a second season? source please. Pinchofhope (talk) 19:45, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

At NO POINT, was it stated that the show was cancelled. I changed "will premiere" to "premiered" because the date of the premiere had already long past (in fact the season had already ended and it still said 'will premiere'. You can't leave it in future tense if the show has already debuted.--Sixpacz (talk) 23:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I was actually referring to your edit adding a series end date to the main page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_%26_Hip_Hop&diff=prev&oldid=767644312 but ok. The first season finale is not confirmed to be the series finale. Pinchofhope (talk) 19:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Hey pinchofhope, it's been a while! I was wondering should we use italics for all of the new and original supporting cast members who don't have a green screen in their first episode appearance?? I did that with Kirk and Bambi in the season five articles since they were technically "guests" in the first and second episodes. Hit me up! Thanks! Zhyboo (talk) 01:51, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
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