User talk:Piotrus/Archive 18

Polish-French relations
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 * Oh silly me, I see you've already nominated it. Good work! --JayHenry 22:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem. I like DYKs :) Keep up the good job! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 22:08, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I've seen your signature a million times, but it wasn't until you replied on my talk page that I realized your sig went with this user name. You've written over 100 DYKs and here I am inviting you to contribute with a form letter!  Oh, the faux pas.  Cheers! --JayHenry 04:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Teresa Maryańska
Thanks for that fix. I can't believe I forgot to change it and then missed it. Well, that's what you get sometimes when you copy/paste. J. Spencer 14:18, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

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Re:Castle and palace stubs
Yes, it's been long enough and what discussion there was was positive. Feel free to recreate them and start using them whenever you like. Grutness...wha?  00:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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pl-fr rel
Good shot, very interesting :-) I'll do it for frwiki (no more involved in plwiki, though). --Beaumont (@)  12:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Started just a stub (not quite direct translation, though ;-) ).
 * And then found this Discussions des Alliés sur la question polonaise. Do enwiki has an equivalent? Any thoughts, comments ? --Beaumont (@)  08:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Le saviez-vous? ;-) BTW, I do hope your stress-o-meter has not exploded yet... --Beaumont (@)  16:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

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Teutonic Order
My greetings, Piotrus! I've responded to a question on the Humanities Desk on the Teutonic Knights, which has some bearing on Poland. You see, I never forget a promise! Clio the Muse 15:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC

request to move to kyiv
Hello,

I have set up a request to move the page Kiev to Kyiv.

I have outlined four key reasons for doing so in the discussion section of the page.

Looking through the archives, I saw that you had contributed to this page earlier. I would like to hear what you have to say on this topic.

Thank you

Horlo 02:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)Horlo

Thank you
Piotrus,

Thank you for your reply. It seems that you have been the only completely unbiased, NPOV person here.

Horlo 19:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Category:Allied occupation of Europe
Seeing your interest in the category, you might be interested to know that it, along with its companion article, Allied occupation of Europe, have been nominated for deletion on WP:NOR grounds. Digwuren 02:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Question
I was wondering, maybe you know about a Polish scouting organizations in Galicia "Stsheltsa Ogzhelets, Zwionzek" (not sure about spelling, I transliterated from Uk.). It was founded in Galicia or Lviv before WWI? I am more intersted in spelling of these names and if you have more info on them. Thanks.--Hillock65 02:45, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am expanding the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen article, and was wondering if you could have a look at it. Maybe you'd have some suggestions or comments? --Hillock65 12:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Unsuitable applicant
Ha ha (laughs nervously, runs off and hides behind the bushes)! From your cautious tone, I expect you've guessed that I'm too tunnel-visioned to be suitable for that job. It's very flattering that you thought of me, though. The truth is that, while I adore burying myself in books and editing articles until I am blue in the face, I can't think of anything more boring than administrative duties. I know that makes me selfish, and I really admire the admins for all the work they do (without which I'd have no articles to edit), but that's the way I'm made, I fear. I suspect I would make about as good an administrator as Henryk Walezy was a king of Poland. You've made my day by mentioning it, though. :) qp10qp 11:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Szymon Pawłowski (footballer born 1986)
Hello. I noticed your prod tag on this article, and I have removed it. I believe this player meets the notability criteria for professional footballers, and I have cleaned up the article a little bit to indicate notability (i.e., he has played in a fully professional league) although I'm struggling to find sources since I don't speak Polish. Best regards. Jogurney 21:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Re Sikorski
Hi, thanks for suggestions. I'm willing to take care of various fr wikilinks :-) Now, I have to finish pl-fr realtions (epoque napoleonienne not yet completed!). Still, the "busy" banner on my talk holds true :-( But please remember, you're welcome to put interesting articles on my talk! --Beaumont (@)  09:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Proto-Ukrainians
I was wondering if you had an opinion on this Articles for deletion/Proto-Ukrainians? Your comments will be appreciated. --Hillock65 02:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Stanisław Chełchowski
Dziękuję za przetłumaczenie artykułu o Stanisławie Chełchowskim z pol. wikipedii. Była to dla mnie bardzo miła niespodzianka. Przygotowuję właśnie małą książeczkę o Chełchowskim w związku z obchodami 100-lecia jego śmierci. Mam pytanie: czy będzie można wykorzystać Pański tekst jako jej streszczenie w języku angielskim? Oczywiście, z zachowaniem praw honorowych? Jeden egzemplarz będzie dla Pana. Pozdrawiam. Piotr Kaszubowski (Pikasch 07:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC))

Berlin
PBS assumed ownership of the articles and is fanatical about "reliably" sourcing just everything. If something's not in his books, it' "not reliable" and he will delete (even the really, really obvious things - including these wjere it's explained on their own pages, for example the fact the HJ were young and the VS old folks).

I hate the wiki bureacracy, so maybe you'd do something about it. --HanzoHattori 12:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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DYK updating
I wonder if you could make your DYK updating debut? Because we always seem to lose ground on weekends. I am not there so I can't really help, but this past weekend we went from the five day lag to a six day lag and before that, we went from a 3 to a 5 day lag. That way lots more things get on :)  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 06:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Whitney-bobby.jpg
Witaj. Na en: wiki załadowane jest takie oto zdjęcie, które na pewno nie jest, co nawet potwierdzone zostało wszystko mówiącym wpisem personal scan przy pierwszej edycji. Ponieważ latam po różnych wikipediach i poluję na grafiki, które można przenieść na commons, proszę, abyś coś z tym zdjęciem zrobił (albo usunął, albo zmienił licencję), bo pomimo PD nie nadaje się ono do wgrania na commons. Pozdrawiam pjahr 08:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

HoR
Hey thanks for the email - yeah it was getting kinda intense with Irpen. I'm not really sure why - I mean it was a fairly blatant uncivil comment - and I just said try to avoid making those - however apparently he was upset that I told him (however he never actually defended the comment itself...) and then said experienced editors shouldn't be told they're not being civil. "please consider that citing them to experienced editors does not help in encouraging the civility climate". Eh? Well hey, hey nice user page by the way - I gotta figure out how you do that box... Good luck on the History of Russia page-- daniel folsom  20:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Np. As I wrote - as long as you don't get such sniping get to you, it will all be fine. Take care, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:58, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Diachenko
Article existed. In the furure I suggest google search in wikipedia site, with different transliterations, too (like, [ dyachenko site:en.wikipedia.org] ). I detected quite a few duplicate articles in this way, especially in arabic/persian names, which can have dozens of spellings and variants. ... Hehe; I wanted to give you a very well known example, and turned out to be a missing redirect even today: Al-Khwarismi. `'Míkka 18:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Czy jesteś tym nienazwanym Polakiem?
Cześć,

robimy małe dochodzenie kto jest tym Polakiem, który mówił o Mayors of Warsaw z wywiadu Jimbo dla NYT:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/jimmy-wales-2-million-articles-down-and-more-to-do/

Wiesz coś na ten temat ?

Pozdrowienia, Kpjas 08:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Weygand
I find them similar to each other; in some regard the French version is more neutral, as it makes attributed claims. Neither version uses citations, BTW ;-) Here goes an abstract of the fr version, 4 paras respectively.


 * Weygand sent to Poland where the war is at its critical point.
 * French intervention helps win the battle of Warsaw [maybe this straightforward claim is not the best wording in fr, but look at what follows]
 * The role of Weygand is deprecated by some Polish officers. [comment: here goes one murky sentence that I spotted in enwiki too.  In fr it's more understandable as attributed: "Some *Polish* *officers* deprecated the Wyegand's role by claiming that Poles won the battle themselves before the mission could return and make its report". In English this puzzles me, as it says "indeed, the battle was fought and won before the mission could return and make reports". This does not make sense to me, given its context.]
 * This view (i.e. "minor role of Weygand") is shared by well-known historians of the subject, as e.g. N. Davies. *French* *historians*, while admitting that he's role wasn't crucial in fighting (as he wasn't there), still put an accent on his role in reorganizing and instruction of the Polish army and remark that the Polish aircrafts were piloted by Americans and French.

BTW, in the English version I spotted some general unfriendly tone. It's you who wrote it? ;-)

--Beaumont (@)  09:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Election sejm of 1632 - DYK copyedit
I tried to disambiguate the orthodox and catholic links in your suggested hook (currently at Template:Did you know/Next update), but am not too sure of my accuracy since the article itself is ambiguous: are Eastern Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic Church correct? Circeus 21:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, a far as I can tell, it's either that or Oriental Orthodox Church, which I highly doubt. Circeus 21:59, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

The Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd Class
Thank you for the The Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd Class, you have made my day. Anyway - I know a gentleman whose uncle overheard at a barbershop that Wikipedia Barnstars come with free booze and stacks of cash. Thank you in advance (I like Guinness most of all) Tymek 04:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

HoR
Sure, but I'd be surprised if that cut material wasn't available in sub-articles already since it wasn't particularly detailed. For instance, as far as I can see after a quick read-through, the Treaty of Georgievsk article deals with the Russian annexation of Georgia pretty adequately. --Folantin 08:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Marek Papała
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RE:Reverted your speedy
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 * Oh. So that's why I tagged it (I forget) :-) I have no problem with it being kept, though. It's not like it's taking up a huge amount of space :-) Happy editing! -- Boricua  e  ddie  23:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)



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Molobo
Piotrus, please have some talk with Molobo. We can't continue this content discussions as long as he continues all this disruption. I want to avoid calling for any outside interference since with his history he is already standing on a very thin ice. Something needs to be done with this. Otherwise, any progress in editing or talk page discussion is impossible for the articles he choose to insert himself in. --Irpen 00:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Which specific edits (diffs) do you find problematic? I don't have tome to monitor his every edit.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 10:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * His activity at talk:Polonization. --Irpen 10:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The last time I checked users, Molobo included, were allowed to discuss issues at talk pages. Is he violating WP:CIV? Diffs, please.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 10:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

He is turning a discussion into a mess. Please see for yourself his edits there. he was also edit warring on keeping a lengthy peace he pasted there when I replaced it with the link. The page is already a mess. In order to be able to have any progress in the discussion, we must be sensible. Not only he repeats the same thousand times and ignores questions on topic. In addition to this repetitive rant, he pastes external text not accepting even the replacement by external links. Diluting editor's exchange of opinions by kilobytes of text only obstructs the discussion. So do repetitive statements pasted in every section. Read it for yourself. --Irpen 10:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Need to talk with you
Hi, please send me an E Mail -berndd11222@yahoo.com -Barney Dombrowski --Woogie10w 12:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Math
Polish minority in Vilnius county:

466,296  216,012 + 98,790 + 30,491 + 9,055 + 2,896 + 490 + 1,678 + 579 + 874 + -- 827,161 = 216,012   827,161 ÷ -- 0.261148676013497 =

Or, 26.11%. Please use a calculator next time. Renata 18:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Daszewo, Poland
Piotrus, Thank you for your help in the past. I just created an English translation (Daszewo) of the polish language article http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daszewo. I would appreciate it if you or one of your colleagues would review my translation. Thank you in advance,--Dan Dassow 23:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Notification of discussion: Guideline/policy governing lists
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User:Kpalion/Template:National symbols of Poland
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User:Wiki Gestapo
Thanks for the heads-up. Regarding my mail account, I received a mail through the system from another user minutes ago, so it *ought* to be working. (Never trust a smiling computer). I have no problem with this person editing using a more normal username. Valentinian T / C 21:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

WIEM encyclopedia
the article in WIEM is a piece of garbage, without a single source written by unknown author. It is not a valid reference for wikipedia for any facts, and your question is ridiculous. It is your duty to prove that such order existed. I am sick repeating: during the pervious discussion I diligently lookd thru original documents and found nothing even close. I am not less than you interested to present chronology of events of these times. Soviet move westwards started to trickle immediatly after the abrogation of the Treaty of Brest Litovsk, when German army was in disarray after German revolution. The Western Front was created postfactum. `'Míkka 23:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

You cannot provide the reference to the original document, it is hearsay. Enough already that it propagates dubious term "Operation Viwtula", we may quote WIEM for it. But to refer to an unknown order by Lenin is unconfirmed hearsay and there is no urgent nessessity here. I am no longer continue this silly bitching: I demand you give me exact ref to document and I find it hardly unreasonable. We are talking about little-known detail, not about "Vistula drains into the Baltic Sea". re: your "we cannot find other source": CAN YOU READ IT OR YOU ARE BLIND: I repeating 4th time: I SPENT SEVERAL HOURS looked thru ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS of 1918 (Red Army ORders and Lenin's Complete Works), not some stupid google search. And dont give me bullshit about original research. `'Míkka 00:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Re: "I find it quite plausible that there was some order, speech, memo or such text, written by Lenin at that time, telling the troops to go "West" and mentioning Vistula; there were certainly quite a few such orders then."
 * I find it quite not. You under an impression either Boslhevik or Western propaganda that Lenin was either superhero or supertyrant. May I remind you that at these times it was Trotzki who gave orders to the Army. `'Míkka 00:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Polish translation
Your translation of Battle of Grudziądz looks incomplete. I would appreciate if you could finish it, so that I can complete a list of WWII battles. Thanks, ¿SFGi Д nts!  ¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review! 21:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

commons vote
the voting had concluded at Commons by the time I tried to log on to the page this AM, sorry that you did not make it. --Woogie10w 23:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Reply:Image Request for Maps of Foreign Relations of Poland
Sure, I'll make those images, I've already made the one you specified (France). Just give me a bit of time to make and upload them. Thanks! - DWR (Dancingwombatsrule).

Żródła map
Witam, co źródeł do tych map z commons o których pisałeś na stronie moje dyskusji. Jak mam je podać?:) Mapki były robione na podstawie map wykonanych przez Zubera, http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_grafiki:Monarchia_Henryków_Śląskich_(1201-1241).jpg, i przy ścisłej współpracy z nim, dlatego jako autorów wpisałem nas obu. MariuszR

Zdjęcia Łodzi
Witam! W Wikimedia Commons znajdują się zdjęcia między innymi Łodzi autorstwa Marka i Ewy Wojciechowskich (na przykład ). Na zdjęciach były pierwotnie wstawione znaki wodne, które jednak przed pojawieniem się zdjęć w Wikimedia Commons zostały zlikwidowane. Jeśli owa procedura jest zgodna z zasadami Wikimedia Commons, prosiłbym o pomoc przy usunięciu znaków wodnych z paru innych zdjęć (zostaną one wykorzystane w artykułach o Łodzi) z tej samej strony państwa Wojciechowskich. Wedel

Props
I just read your article on beta coefficients (well it looks like you wrote the bulk of it) and thought it was great. I'm trying to understand some issues in statistics, and this was the clearest article on a stats topic I've run across so far. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.61.67.157 (talk • contribs).

Assistance
Thank you for your assistance. I hadn't submitted to Wikipedia before. I am currently writing a book on the history of Polish churches in Milwaukee, WI. I have found some interesting information during my research and a friend suggested I post some of it to Wikipedia. Best regards, John Smallshaw Chicago, USA

Argos Translation
hi! i have no idea why u deleted my articele about Argos Translations. it happend already a couple of times, thats why to experiment and stricltly stick to the rules of wikipedia i created the article the same way as lionbridge (the same branch company ) was done. and what is the result? lionbridge is in wikipedia for a long time, meanwhile u deleted Argos several times. its not fair, especiallly when i put the article into a category about companies established in 1996. sorry, next time try to do the same with the rest of artcles having the same content. or maybe u r just simply paid by lionbridge? cheers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mkrzyskow (talk • contribs).

Essay on how 3RR hurts the project and a proposal to fix it.
Hi! I would appreciate it, if you could give me your thoughts on this essay: Accusations of collaboration: 3RR hurts Wikipedia --Alexia Death the Grey 09:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Tylko admin
Mógłbyś dodać interwiki do szablonu Template:DANFS do pl:Szablon:DANFS ? Szablon jest zabezpieczony "tylko dla adminów". --Pmgpmg 13:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Piotrus
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Eve-Wiki.net reference
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GA pass for Smolensk War
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Little context in Corporate capitalism
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Kraków
User:Charles has been making unilateral moves of Kraków-related articles. He has changed the redirects so I can't revert him. Can you look into this? Appleseed (Talk) 15:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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RE: self-revert; wrong person, sorry :)
No problem. Try again in a month ;) --Aarktica 00:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge
Thank you for your comment, but because of sensitivity to Wikipedia's rules on COI, I have not made any edits to certain family articles for over a year now, and it is probably best if I continue that practice. However, if you would like to make any changes, please feel free. :) --Elonka 04:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Free City
Certainly, if you cannot keep your temper, you should not; I had hoped you might have some influence on PoeticBent. However, I hope the RM is not inundated by WP:ILIKEIT votes like Talk:Wilhelmstraße has been — WP:IDONTLIKEIT would be worse, but there was a time when the two would balance and leave room for rational consideration of the issue. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 14:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Cracow
Likewise, for the both of you! This behaviour will be reported if it starts or continues. Those article were moved undiscussed by the both of you (AS and Piotr) undiscussed and with shady or insufficient reasoning to do so. Charles 22:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, it is inappropriate to unilaterally rename historical articles to Polish names given: a) they have English names and b) this is English Wikipedia. Polish Wikipedia is that way. I am not over there changing Kanada to Canada, which is the native form. Cracow is also the form which most English editors said they have recognized on various votes. Charles 22:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You are some piece of work Piotrus. First, twisting around words, second, twisting around evidence. The article is about the HISTORICAL ENTITY and you abused your administrative powers and showed your bias by moving it back. It is NOT about the article "Krakow". Charles 06:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Look forward to an RFC on this. Charles 06:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you honestly and truly need to acknowledge things like this, on the talk page (which you seem to be avoiding) before you initiate problems by changing articles around to forms that have little or no support in scholarly literature:

"I don't see a consensus or a vote to keep it at Krakow, so I made a bold move and changed it to Cracow, which was backed up with evidence from the Encyclopedia Brittanica. I see no rationale for this move and for others in the history where a reversal of a well-intentioned editor's move goes without so much as an edit summary. I have always tried to assume good faith, but I am finding it to be increasingly difficult. I do not think, Piotrus, that you are showing NPOV. I had faith that you would turn a better leaf and work toward a better English Wikipedia and made note of such after you came to talk to me on my talk page. I have been silently been observing various shenanigans with regard to English/native naming and I found it to be an incredible affront to my intelligence to be told to have the Krakow article moved first before moving anything else. Absolutely unreal. Charles 06:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)"

"Increasingly does not mean overwhelmingly. Indeed, the EB uses 'Republic of Cracow' and that name is all but discounted for the sake of the location of the article on the current city. Unbelievable. I have only come into seeing Krakow recently in the article on Wikipedia, never before in any text or manuscript that I have read. Charles 06:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)"

And yes, Piotrus, I am drawing your attention to something you did in the past because you have not learnt from it. I can be fully certain now that you have read it. An answer would be much appreciated. Charles 18:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Refusal to acknowledge one's faults in an attempt to even better one's self as an editor and an administrator is a very grievous error. The fact that you acknowledge what I said by replying, but reply so begrudgingly and with very vague things to say, shows that there is still an issue with you being an administrator. You have learnt little, if nothing, from the events aforementioned which only now seem as if you were only paying lip service to all who gave you a chance to better yourself. The fact that I came upon that article and was able to recognize that something was not right is my contribution to Wikipedia. Your disparaging demeanour and the way you interact with those who oppose you overshadows the merits you claim for yourself and others (of whom this discussion has little to do with). That will follow you around, Piotrus. Everyone knows you for it. You cannot say that the EB is wrong on this matter and that you are right. Charles 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Piotrus, you keep on falling back on the use of Cracrow/Krakow in terms of modern usage (which is the modern city). The fact is we are not talking about today, we are talking about the historical entity. I urge you to read the naming conventions on historical entities. This is not Cracow vs Kraków, this is Free City of Cracow vs Free City of Kraków. Now, which is used more in scholarly literature? I urge you to comment on the evidence on the talk page as PMAnderson has gently asked. Refusal to comment on it or ignoring it is well, ignorant. It is a very weak argument on your part. Charles 19:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * BTW, I am not disputing RM or anything, I am disputing the editing and the practises that are going on. That is the issue I have. This is a civility issue and it hinges on manipulation of existing conventions to suit an acknowledged POV. Also, WP:OWN frowns on telling other editors they have little to stand on for not dedication more time to editing certain articles. Charles 19:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Free City

 * Congratulations on the above. Would you comment again on the Cracow disaster (do excuse my Anglicism), and see if you can get these frantic national champions to lay off. I mean it; if I didn't like one of them and regard another as a newbie, I would have reported the lot of them to WP:AE already. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm curious, which one am I? /:) Charles 22:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be telling, wouldn't it? ;-> Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I am disappointed, Piotrus; I do not see how your !vote is compatible with WP:NCGN. I would respect, and possibly be persuaded by, an argument for Krakow, which is indeed becoming more common; I would welcome more evidence; but your reasoning endorses WP:OWN. (I'm not sure that it is factually correct either, but to enquire into that would give the argument more weight than it deserves.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for answering. How is this the name of WP:NCGN? for that matter, what modern scholarship? Krakow may be, but not (in this context) Kraków. Please set Matthead a good example, and argue from the facts, not justified annoyance with him. I think his latest stunt, of dragging in Auschwitz, is a violation of the ArbCom decree; but PoeticBent really is just as bad. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I reply because I happen to be on; let me know if you want to walk away. I wrote you only because I would like to see what your analysis is. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Please note that I am not discussing, and do not intend to discuss unless there is a complete change of sentiment, the name of Kraków itself.Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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Piotrus, I written a number questions for you at the article talk page. I feel it would be beneficial to the discussion if they were answered and it might provide credibility or support for your choice of the article name. Charles 17:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Just a note
Hi, I just wanted to say that I was sorry your RFA on Commons failed. You have given a tremendous amount of good to this project. Way more then anyone else that I have seen. I am personally staying out of politics here, as I have not seen anything that I am very impressed with. Just the same people making all the decisions, while spewing their judgmental crap. - Epousesquecido 22:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Prośba o tłumaczenie: WP:ASSESS na język polski
Witam. Zapewne mój login i wkład nic nie mówią, ale jestem z pl.wiki i przygotowuję po cichu pewną pracę/raport. Mam zamiar przeanalizować w niej system oceny artykułów i możliwe rozwiązania, także przykłady z innej wiki. W związku z tym zwracam się z serdeczną prośbą o tłumaczenie tutejszego systemu oceny. Czy jest na to szansa? Pytam, gdyż rozumiem problemy czasowe. Najpóźniej potrzebuję mieć tekst ok. 15 września, gdyż muszę go jeszcze przeanalizować. Zwracam się jednak ze swoją prośbą tu, gdyż najlepiej przetłumaczy tekst człowiek, który się na tym zna. W dodatku mam pytanie o wersjach tego systemu dla różnych Wikiprojektów, bo coś takiego też zauważyłem. Mam nadzieję, że ten tekst nie będzie wyrzucony za użycie języka polskiego... Jednak w języku angielskim nie potrafiłbym jeszcze opisać sytuacji.

Matyt 12:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Dziękuję za odpowiedź. Niestety, chyba muszę wystosować tutaj kolejną prośbę: tym razem o umieszczenie tej pierwszej w Portalu:Polska. Powody:

Przepraszam za poszerzanie problemu. Matyt 13:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Mam niestety mnóstwo zajęć (sytuacja ta się nie zmieni prawdopodobnie do 7 września. A później mało czasu i nauka.
 * 2) Nie potrafię szybko znaleźć odpowiedniego miejsca do umieszczenia omawianej prośby.
 * 3) (Dosyć ważne:) Chciałbym uniknąć polskiej dyskusji na ten temat.

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Witaj. Wedle tej strony (MSWiA) jest to State Public Prosecutor's Office. Możesz mi wskazac jakiś przykład, który świadczy że jest inaczej? Pozdrawiam. OldEnt § 19:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Skoro mówisz, że tłumacz przysięgły mówi, że jest tak jak mówi... :') to ja wierzę. Poszukam może jeszcze. Pozdrawiam. OldEnt § 19:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Zastanawiam się, czy nie wysłac listu do Prokuratury Krajowej z zapytaniem odnośnie tego. I tak muszę jeszcze skopletowac listę Prokuratorów Krajowych (jest niekompletna). OldEnt § 19:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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Learned Estonian Society
Hi Piotrus, please take a look at this Learned Estonian Society Talk:Learned_Estonian_Society and see what you think. Your take on the issue would be appreciated. Thanks!--Termer 17:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Władysław Kiełbasa
Hello,

Thanks for cleaning the article up (and enhancing it!).

I was thinking about putting this plaque as an image on the page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gheywood/1275858947/

In your vast experience, is it suitable (after cropping) for Wikipedia?

Cheers Greg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heywoodg (talk • contribs) 20:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Translation request :)
Translation/Rabka-Zdrój.

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Narutowicz

 * 1) I'm not trying to convince the Lithuanian ultras to my POV. I'm trying to convince them to find a single source to support theirs.
 * 2) There's no point in creating any longer article on Wikipedia. If the Lithuanians let the article live long enough for us to finish, there'll always be Dan and other trolls. // Halibutt 06:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Lately I tried to create several longer articles. All of them were vandalized before I could even finish writing them. And all of them were vandalized by the same bunch of morons, so I doubt what you write is true. Sure, I envy your belief in the project, but I'm afraid I've lost mine. Perhaps in 10 years time, when the idiots grow up and abandon their 19th centurish nationalism, but definitely not now.  // Halibutt 17:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately in my areas of interest there's barely anyone but extremists. Sure, it was fun to browse through hilarious delusions by Nico, Zyvinbudas or Dr.Dan, but it is fun no more. Once I had plenty of time to write articles - and some of them must've been nice. However, currently my time is limited and I really don't like the idea of wasting it on writing articles for the bunch of hammers to vandalize just for the sake of it. Ever seen Lokyz, M.K. or Dan provide a single piece of evidence to their claims? Nope. Then why should I be better then they are? If they can do harm to this project and go unpunished, then there's no place for me here. Sad but true. I'll let them play their games in peace. Mądry głupiemu ustępuje, or something along those lines.  // Halibutt 17:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * What would it change? The presence of the bunch of blinded ultras who slander me all around and destroy my work without even intending to improve my articles makes me tired with this project. It doesn't really matter whether all of my articles are affected or only some of them. Wiki's like a restaurant: it doesn't really matter whether you find a fly in every meal or only in the dessert. It's still the same disgust and disappointment.  // Halibutt 22:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Better yet, wiki is like a town where you can visit all sorts of restaurants with different cuisines. Plenty of Polish pierogi bars, pizzerias, stylish French bistros, English fish'n'chips eateries, and so on. However, there's only one Lithuanian restaurant with flies in every dish and a psychopathic chef running with his knife from one bar to the other, just to kill some clients here and there.


 * Perhaps it's my problem that I like Lithuanian cuisine and would love to visit the restaurant. Yet, apparently I shouldn't. And I shouldn't even get near, as it's dangerous. The only remedies I know are to either kill the crazed chef (but I'd have to do it alone as there's nobody else to see the problem), open up my own Lithuanian restaurant (impossible, as the crazed chef would kill me) - or move to another town. I chose the latter option. I regret it, but what could I do?


 * In other words, I can live with the fact that outright violation of wiki's rules is accepted. My skin is thick enough to stand an insult or two every now and then. I could also live with the fact that there's a bunch of idiots who make Wikipedia a place where extremist views are preferred over stable, impartial knowledge based on sources. However, I've simply had too much of both at the same time. The Lithuanians want to reinvent their own history and write it from scratch, convincing the entire world that there is only one true vision - that's fine with me. But I don't want to be a part of such a project. I have a name to defend and I can't risk that some day someone's going to point his finger at me and say "Look, that guy was among those who wrote all that rubbish". It's an either-or situation: either all of us accept the rules and try to make this project a great encyclopaedia, or there's no place for my name on the list.


 * As a sidenote, it seems to me that Wikipedia has become yet another proof for Copernicus' Law. I certainly feel driven out of circulation.  // Halibutt 23:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it's not all I like. But it's a significant part of what I like. And I'd rather be active in places I fully enjoy than in places I enjoy only partially. Wikipedia is not my country, I can chose to take part in it, or chose to stay away.
 * You're right, which doesn't change a thing. When a psychopath goes berserk on the streets it really doesn't matter whether people condemn him in their conscience or not. What matters is what he does - and whether he remains unpunished. In other words, as long as he's out there, I'm staying away. No need to waste my time and my nerves. Sure, not all food is bad here, but the bad food in this particular corner spoils all the fun, at least for me. Perhaps giving up Lithuanian cuisine would be a nice option, but why exactly should I? Why a honest, decent editor should give up subjects he's interested in and leave them up to idiots who have little to no knowledge, but plenty of complexes, will to fight and delusions? Does it make WP a better place? Nope. Does it make me feel more happy? Nope. Does it make them feel at home in places they shouldn't be welcome in the first place? Yup.
 * Perhaps one day the bunch of hammers will grow up or someone will finally force them to abide by the laws of Wikipedia. Until then it's not a place for me. And, sadly, I don't think it's a good place for anyone who opposes their ways. Remember Boziewicz's Codex (or should I say Codex of Bozevičius)? Being part of a group of people lacking honour makes you lose yours as well. A journalist working for a tabloid, even a decent guy who never libelled anyone, is not honourable by definition.  // Halibutt 01:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Expedition of 1018
My sympathies. Your only mistake was in submitting to GA in the first place. Their advice and demands are often this silly; I went directly to PR and FA, but FA is worse than it was.

It would do no harm to check a Russian source, if you have access to one and can read it (possibly in English translation); but NPOV doesn't kick in until the point is shown to be controversial. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the invitation. But I see no point to discussion with an editor whose feel for English is so limited that he omits the definite article when mandatory and fails to capitalize English; especially when he invents his facts. (And, no, of course I don't mean you.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I just noticed the part of your message FA status of Kraków. You may not be pleased with my response; but I am prepared to negotiate a compromise. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Włoskie okręty
Czy patrząc na tę dyskusję mógłbyś zablokować User talk:Gaetano56 ? To co on robi strasznie mnie wpienia a dodatkowo niszczy sieć interwiki. Pmgpmg 11:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * On dodaje nieprawidłowe interwiki - robi interwiki z okrętów (po stronie angielskiej) powiedzmy Balao (czyli II wojenny typ gdzie powstało 132 okręty) robi link do typu włoskiego który stanowiły dwa ex-amerykańskie Balao. Włosi sobie te dwa okręty nazwali od pierwszego typem Evangelista Torricelli ale ten raczej niewiele ma wspólnego z np. drugowojenymi okrętami. Po prostu robi link z 2 okrętów do 132 . Włosi jeszcze (przynajmniej niedawno) nie mieli tekstu o całym typie Balao - więc po prostu ten link jest nieprawidłowy. A ja nie jestem na tyle często na en wiki żeby tego przypilnować zeby nie dodawał tych interwiki. Już sie na tyle zrobił cwany ze do polskiej wiki nie dodaje - więc ja tego bezpośrenio nie widzę. Ale to co on robi mnie strasznie irytuje. Mógłbyś mu coś napisać na dyskusji i przypilnowac te trzy teksty ? Bo ja tutaj tak często nie zaglądam ( tylko zeby interwiki do polskich/moich teksów dodawać i zdjęcia przenosić na commons). Pmgpmg 18:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

A food for a thought
Regarding recent discussion at Jimbo's talk page, similiar issues and patterns at Occupation of Latvia and Soviet occupation of Romania and so on, I came to belief that indeed they are certain specific issues regarding the history and articles concerning members of Eastern Bloc that touch us all, no matter if we are Ukrainian, Pole, Romanian, Lithuanian, Estonian Latvian or Russian. Also-despite this there seems to be little cooperation between those editors and exchange of information, that would vastly expand the quality and value of articles concerning our past and topics involved with it. Perhaps a message board for History of Eastern Bloc would be in order where editors concerned could engage in discussion and coordinate improvement of topics associated with the issues involved. Of course I am only giving this as something to think about. --Molobo 15:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That's quite an interesting idea. Do you have any specific suggestions? Digwuren 15:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * There is the Eastern European Wikipedians' notice board.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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Dual names
I expect there will be move wars about which goes first, just like the unhappy Bozen-Bolzano nonsense, documented on WP:LAME; at that point you should see which English uses. I would bet the cheese is known by an Anglicized name, probably closer to the Polish than the Slovak, since more Poles have immigrated to English-speaking countries; but I don't know. But we may get lucky. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Applicability of Requests for arbitration/Piotrus to Occupations of Latvia
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Your message
I just contacted my friend in the Czech Republic… The word ZABEDNENEC used by your friend Darwinek means IDIOT in English… Mine was an assumption not a slander. Am I the one who is at fault here or is the arrogance of the above editor? FYI – he is the one who is destroying my work!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolekpolivka (talk • contribs) 19:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

With all the respect, you are not correct. As an author of this box, I made this table to list all historical settlements in the region. Darwinek bases his opinion on a marginal and incomplete table on the Czech Wikipedia. So, what Darwinek thinks does not really matter much, as his conclusions are based on wrong information. As I said already, I have much more experience as far as this topic is concerned than about anyone still alive – see my contributions to various books on the subject. Regards L. G.

See my message on the template page - Regards L.G. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolekpolivka (talk • contribs) 20:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Leaving
Well, agreed. I could have handled myself better. I got mad over his comments above; those were really civil and professional. Just... somehow I did not see you handing out warnings to him or removing those attacks from your own talk page. Renata 19:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Further, I strongly suggest looking at talk page correspondence between two users as private: if you were not invited, don't join in. Same goes to you. Renata 20:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Kiev
Hey - so I was planning on reading over Kiev Expedition just now and likely passing it - but I just noticed the huge discussion going on. I'm required to review it tomorrow since tomorrow will be a week since the hold tag was placed on- but the problem is if I review it now I might have to fail it because the article has to be stable. Regardless - I'll definitely take a look tomorrow, and assuming all is worked out you'll have yourself a GA!-- daniel folsom  03:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well - while I'm not supposed to wait longer than a week - I think given your note I will, I mean to me there's no problem in giving a bit more time - and that "no more than 7 days" line is probably more to prevent the reviewer from forgetting about it than to prevent the reviewer to give extra time. Could you just give me a heads up when it's all sorted out? Thanks! Oh and by the way - very nice job on that article, I'm not sure if I said this or not but you definitely did a lot of great edits - nicely done, -- daniel folsom  23:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Górecki
Hi Piotrus, qp10qp posted the below during the FAC for Górecki's 3rd symphony. I have tried to resolve but do not have enough knowledge on the subject and the sources I have are vague. An openion from you would be appreciated. Thanks Ceoil 16:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * ''"Some critics have seen the symphony as a memorial to victims of the Nazis in Poland and during the Holocaust, particularly in light of Górecki's choice of texts." Why do critics think it is a memorial to victims of the holocaust? And do they mean just the Polish holocaust? The critics' views could perhaps be quoted here to make this clear, because it is not obvious to me from the description of the texts that they refer to the holocaust specifically.
 * ''The fact that one of them was taken from a Gestapo prison wall was a major factor in peoples' interpreting it in that way, coupled with the overwhelmingly sorrowful mood of the piece. If there's a way we should reword that to make that more clear, I'm all for it. Chubbles 23:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * We have to be careful. Because there's a feeling in Poland that emphasis on the holocaust, however essential, may obscure the fact that a vast number of non-Jews died or were imprisoned in Poland too. And Gorecki may share that view, which might be why he resists the holocaust interpretation. He may be lamenting the war dead, Jew and non-Jew alike. I don't think the fact that this was inscribed on a Gestapo cell necessarily connects this to the holocaust. The Gestapo were responsible for largescale arrests and interrogations of the civilian population as part of the Nazi administration of Poland, a major undertaking. However, this could all be fixed by a direct quote or two from critics. Shall I ask a Polish editor to comment?qp10qp 12:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I took your advice and posted to the board. If you fine time to comment, great, but no hurry with this. Thanks. Ceoil 16:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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added to "History of Polish Intelligence Services" talk page

 * It is not a mess; it is going through translation-pains and will shape up quite nicely. Go find another barrel! Would also like to see the opening expanded. Will pitch in where/when-ever I can. Shir-El too 13:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. I'm on board for copyediting for the duration on this article. Whom should I contact when translation is obscure/idiomatic? Thank you in advance. Shir-El too 13:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Templates for UNDUE?
Unbalanced does that. Incidentally, merging it with POV has been proposed, which I believe is a bad idea. —AldeBaer 17:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Template:Topheavy may also be of interest. —AldeBaer 17:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

For cases not covered by Unbalanced, I have created Irrelevant. Digwuren 17:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I was observing some articles and I've found low-consensus support for Prague Groschen, which I think is a nonsense. I proposed a move here if you don't mind please take a look there.  ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 20:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: On English names
I think it isn’t possible, see - discussion on each article. Polaco77 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polaco77 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Howdy, sorry to butt in but perhaps You'd care to comment at Category talk:Churches in Warsaw --212.76.33.79 21:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

contact
You have been elected as contact. See here. Wandalstouring 09:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a relly cool thing to talk about, don't you think? (Write Back) —Preceding unsigned comment added by My Dady's girl101 (talk • contribs) 10:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Stefan Czarniecki
Hi Piotrus. I'm afraid I don't know anything about the period in question so I doubt my input would be of much value. Thanks for asking, though. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 16:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

stand by
I'll show you what ... look in 5 mins ... "how" will take another 10 or so Victuallers 18:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC). Sorry there is an error and I lost my internet connection for 10 mins. If you lose patience then roll it abck to a good version but I am still working on it. Victuallers 19:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

As promised. It is done. The tool I have used is here ... there appears to be a bug as I could not get it to take Polish filename ... I had to load a duplicate into commons. The tool should explain itself, but I'd be happy to help. I see you have some Javascript on your page ... looks good Victuallers 19:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Captions in imagemaps
Its a "known bug". The software people say they have a fix, but not installed here yet.... but I'm not chasing it... I think its 97% OK and I can live without the captions. Glad you liked it Victuallers 14:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC) Oh ... have you thought about moving it to the Polish version? There would not be much to translate or adjust ... we use the same maths! Victuallers 14:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

That occupation article
Best to keep it from moving at all while things are sorted out. And Ghirlandajo moved the page like three times during his attempt to repurpose the page into something completely different. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 21:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Stole your box! :)
I hope you don't mind... I stole your floating box :) SQL(Query Me!) 07:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Copernicus
¿Why does Copernicus was not a Polish and Dürer and Beethoven were Germans? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nationalism Patrol (talk • contribs) 13:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the note at our notice board. Good stuff. --Poeticbent talk  00:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Nguyen-ngoc-truong-son.jpg
Witaj. Czy mógłbyś przyjrzeć się tej fotce? Chciałem załadować na commons, ale w Internecie to zdjęcie bez problemu można znaleźć i mam spore wątpliwości, czy jest to  (a może się mylę?). Pozdrawiam pjahr 12:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

About your pictures from Baranów Sand. castle
Dear Piotr:

Hi! We do not meet from time ago. Congratulations for your gallery in commons.

I took advantage of your pictures in Baranów Sandomierski castle. You may see the results in w:commons:Category:Coats of arms of families of Poland in Baranow-Sandomierski castle Your work is excellent, do not you wish to include this images in your gallery? As you can see the credit remains all yours. Be free to change or to delete whatever you want.

By the way, in I could identify Herb Wieniawa easily but I am not sure about the other three ones. I suppose they are woj. Sandomierskie (the stripes and the stars), woj. Rawskie (the crowned black eagle) and woj. Rúskie (the crowned lion), but I am not sure. Do you know something about?

Best regards my friend.

--Gustavo 02:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Dear Piotr:

I do know you are busy, but I need some help with the Polish language. I already included your photos in the Polish coats of arms of the en:wiki. Now I would like to do the same thing in the pl:wiki. I presume that, as an example, "Wawdicz coat of arms in Baranow-Sandomierski castle" is "Herb Wawdicz w zamku Baranowie Sandomierkie" but I am not sure. May you tell me? Remember that my Polish is worst than my English. Imaging! Thank you and best regards.

--Gustavo 07:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Ooops
Monobook in tools cat - apologies and thanks for the heads up, done -- Herby talk thyme 07:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Warsaw
Someone calling himself Bg007 probably demolished an article about Warsaw. I don't know how to repair it. Could you help me, please? Polaco77 08:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

defenders of nippon
Hello there, I was looking through Katsuhiro Otomo's filmography, and noticed a new entry, namely "defenders of nippon". From the history of the page, I believe you added that, so I'm wondering where you got that info and if you have a source. Thanks in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.206.62 (talk) 19:22, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You are mistaken, I did not add this; I only ilinked one of his works. You may want to read Help:Page history and practice more with the relevant tools to find out the editor who added that info.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:26, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Historiography
You might be interested in Soviet historiography, which I recently stubbed and (possibly foolishly) tagged into WPSU. Digwuren 18:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

eve wiki
hi ive set up a wiki for my corporation on the eve wiki sit but im a bit of a noob and cant link it 2 the correct catagory (pc corps) i think it should meet the standerd but no doubt my corpmates will wish 2 c*ap all over my hard work and edit it as they see fit so if it isnt plz dont flag it for delition right away thanks MURDAH/Scivi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.150.63 (talk) 03:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Space Cadet is in troubles
Hi, I think you might be interested in this Space Cadet in troubles.  ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 13:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Front page day is pudding day
Oh, dear, the lead is turning into a pudding. This is a perfect example of how articles deteriorate. Someone adds a superfluous detail to the lead ("several calls to do so"). Someone else decides, without reading the rest of the article, where that point is expanded and referenced, to add a "citation needed" tag. Someone else comes along and helpfully references the point, adding all sorts of other details too, just to nail it home, without taking into account the need for a sense of proportion in the lead or the fact that all this is already covered and referenced in the body of the article. And the lead now says that the Soviets delayed because Warsaw hadn't yet fallen, whereas the body of the article gives a number of reasons from a range of sources. I don't think I'll try and sort this out until after the 24 hours, because good concise prose in the lead is a fine art and cannot be attempted while swatting flies, with one foot in a swamp. This experience convinces me that maybe it's best to cite everything in the lead in future: some people obviously don't realise that it's a deliberate style choice not to cite too much in the lead, particularly those people who start editing the lead before they've read the whole article. :(. qp10qp 15:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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