User talk:Piotrus/Archive 40

Radzymin - again...
Hi there, could you take a look at Grandiose's comments on copyright of photos you uploaded to commons here? I'm not an expert and I'm not sure what is it that he really want.  // Halibutt 22:37, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I took a look at Staszic and did a quick ce, adding some who tags here and there. Sadly, I wouldn't feel comfortable assessing the article myself as I can't really tell much of the prose. Not a native speaker.  // Halibutt 20:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This horse never dies apparently. Would you mind?. I mean the question No. 2: "File:The_fighting_near_Radzymin.jpg: what steps have been taken to look for previous publication? Same for other images from that source". Any ideas? I must say I also liked the questions about the architect of the church depicted on one of the photos.  // Halibutt 21:29, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

History of Poland in the Early Modern era,History of Poland (1569–1795) + History of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (various)
You appear to have left various split/merge tags on these pages. Do you intend to update these articles? Op47 (talk) 20:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm aware of the merge issues that have been raised. What keeps it from happening is that History of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (1764–1795), the third and last of the detailed History of Commonwealth series is not finished, as I'm being distracted by several other projects. May be I should prioritize this work to get the Commonwealth situation cleaned up. Orczar (talk) 22:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I've made new suggestions under Talk:History of Poland in the Early Modern era. Orczar (talk) 15:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

We miss you!
Piotrus: On behalf of WPPOLAND - we hope to see you back with us again one day!

Hopefully inside the next 5 days we launch a new website with the first of 5 printed booklets on anti-Polish sentiment. I planned to inform Wiki Polish editors encase they can use it. Jniech (talk) 22:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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Bias real or perceived?
Hello, I'm the anonymous editor that recently got involved in a coupe disputes regarding the editing style on a coupe of pages such as Haller's Blue Army and Poland Armed Forces. As a casual user of Wikipedia I was unsettled by editing which I consider as bias towards polish subject matter. When comparing pages on similar topics I noticed that the language used on pages related to a polish topics used much harder (judgmental) terms, and the phraseology used created a subtle, but clear bias towards Poles that presents them in a negative way.

One example was the recent Buckshot06 edits on Polish Armed Forces page, when I stumbled on this page there was only one picture in the "History" section, and it showed Polish soldiers in a diminutive way that only invited negative and stereoscopical perceptions. So, I added the current pictures which show the Polish military in a respectable, but neutral way. Now, user Buckshot06 is trying to remove them one at a time, by claiming that they have nothing to do with the text.

Another, editing issue that I'm involved in is that of American football coach Jerry Sandusky who was accused of child abuse. Sandusky himself is an American first... of mixed Polish and Irish descent. But, the page only mentioned his Polish roots omitting his Irish ancestry, and when his Irish ancestry was added, administrator Milowent was insistent on only highlighting Sandusky's Polish roots first, as if the man was 100% Polish. Please see the edits below to see how he keeps changing the page structure to highlight this, and in the most recent edit he locked the page despite the fact that no vandalism or edit warring took place.

''1st edit: Sandusky was born in Washington, Pennsylvania, the only son of Evelyn Mae (née Lee) and Arthur Sandusky. His paternal grandparents were Polish immigrants and his mother came from a small coal-mining town.''

2nd edit (neutral): Sandusky was born in Washington, Pennsylvania, the only son of Evelyn Mae (née Lee) an Irish Catholic homemaker who came from a small Pennsylvania coal-mining town, and Arthur Sandusky who's parents immigrated from Poland.

...and this is what the section was changed to (below). It seems strange how in this case someone wants too highlight the man's Polish root, even if it means that the structure of the text is moved in a incoherent way, since the earlier sections listed the mother first, than the father, and proceeded to list the father's accomplishments, Also, how many times is the editor going to try to use Poland or Polish in one sentence, it seems like he's trying to fill the page with this fact.

3rd edit: Sandusky was born in Washington, Pennsylvania, the only son of Arthur Sandusky, whose Polish parents had immigrated from Poland, and Evelyn Mae (née Lee) an Irish Catholic homemaker who came from a small Pennsylvania coal-mining town.

Now, since the page is locked, I'm not able to revert the changes, and I can't constantly argue with an administrator who clearly has more power to block IP's or lock pages. And, to prove my point of a bias, don't see any mention of Polish ancestry on pages related to other football players/coaches such as Mike Ditka, Don Majkowski, or Rob Gronkowski. Yet, in the case of child abuser Jerry Sandusky his polish background is highlighted and edited to maintain this bias. --76.118.227.161 (talk) 02:01, 4 December 2011


 * There's always the WP category for "Polish bank robbers". P ЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 20:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * If you set up a questionnaire sandbox, I'll fill out. Best, P ЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 19:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind, added mine to the sandbox! P ЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 20:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

guilt trippin'
Ay, with this you're making me feel bad. I'll try to do some of these soon. One thing though that has turned me of is that the particular time period that is being dealt with - 18th century - is both one that I'm not all that familiar with and one that, relatedly, not that interested in. Volunteer Marek 00:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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Saw your quotes
I was reading the University Times on-line and saw your quotes. Great job and thanks for taking a stand. CrazyPaco (talk) 00:23, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Yeah, I noticed the info on the noticeboard and thought that - since you are probably the only wikipedian actively involved with WP:PL, there would be no better person than yourself. Certainly I'm not the one as technically speaking I'm not even a member :)  // Halibutt 20:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note, Piotr. I hope that you take the time to participate in the interview. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 06:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

You should also direct Vecrumba to the interview (if you haven't already). I don't know if he has listed himself as a project member, but he certainly contributes a good bit. Volunteer Marek 18:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I "promoted" myself to more active status. :-) P ЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 19:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, you won, I added my 2 groszes :)  // Halibutt 23:14, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Maps
Hello again! I uploaded the finished files and you can see them at the Map Workshop. As for File:Armia_krajowa_1.png it looks straightforward and can be done quickly, so send in the translations. By the way, I wonder if you could get Lonio17, the creator of these and many other excellent maps, to start doing them in SVG instead. SVG is infinitely more usable and modifiable, and learning the software should be an easy task for someone who already has the skill to produce such maps. Cheers! -- Orionist  ★  talk  19:08, 10 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Here are the the Armia Krajowa and second Berlin maps:


 * I closed the Map Workshop request as "resolved" so there's no need to reply there. As for the Berlin defences map, I've already started working on it. I'm trying to overlay it on a map of the city to make it possible to add more useful details. The Z sector was very easy to figure out, while the second line traces several water bodies closely. I also found a decent map of Berlin in 1945 that shows the extent of the urban area, but if you have a good one and can find a detailed description of the lines it would greatly increase accuracy. Later, we'll be able to use this as a basis for other maps illustrating the battle inside Berlin. Cheers! -- Orionist  ★  talk  05:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

WP:Poland interview
Czesc. When is the deadline for the interview? I would like to contribute, but until tomorrow evening I am kinda busy. - Darwinek (talk) 21:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Number of sejmiks
I checked a few books, but found only descriptions, not numbers. Orczar (talk) 14:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Seriously :)
Hi! What've I done? I've been a lazy sloth of late except Calais and a few jazz stubs.. Ja kitty looks quite spiteful..♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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We miss you! Update
The new version of the German Camps, Polish Victims website is now live. http://germancampspolishvictims.info/ It has the first of the associated booklets called “German camps, Polish Victims: The BBC coverage of German occupied Poland” available for free download. This 64 page booklet outlines what studying over 500 pages on the BBC website found.

If time please check out the site and download the booklet. Any comments on either would be appreciated. The booklet goes to the printer end of next week, so any comments on its content and format would be useful. Note: the cover is still missing due to it needing to be converted to PDF but I don’t have the software at present.

Perhaps the link to the web site could be added to Polish "Polish death camp" controversy or the Anti-Polish sentiment articles on Wiki Jniech (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

You said: Interesting project, I'll take a look. Have you considered releasing your content under a Wikipedia-compatible license?

This project is why I am not active on Wikipedia. Can you direct me to “Wikipedia-compatible license” details? I am happy for the material to be used on Wikipedia. Jniech (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not publish original research – Is not my booklet original research? Still can’t others use it?  It is fully referenced and I am seen as an expert inside the Polish community e.g. my recent award. Jniech (talk) 22:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your reversion in Marx
I can't see the justification for your argument for reversion. In archive 9, arguments from both yourself and Itsmejudith indicate the section shouldn't be present. As such I've started a discussion on the talk page, please comment. Fifelfoo (talk) 23:18, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Research Newsletter
Hi Piotrus, the draft for the upcoming (Feb 27) issue is here and your contributions would be most welcome! The list of papers to cover is here.

And thanks again for your work last time. BTW, I notified Greenstein and Zhu of the review of their paper and got a very nice reply.

Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 09:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I had indeed looked briefly at the "Sciencepaper" paper (haven't had another chance since then, though) and indeed the quality issues at least regarding the writing were obvious. But I thought that they might have something interesting to to say, at least in the sense that the paper contains information that would not otherwise be accessible to non-Chinese speakers. In any case, even bad papers should be covered in the research newsletter; this can save the reader a lot of time ;)
 * I have added several more papers (CSCW 2012 took place this month), two of which may interest you in particular: (seems essentially a social sciences paper), and (slides - I see to recall you have also used Wikipedia in your teaching).
 * Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 02:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Sarpay Beikman Manuscript Awards
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DYK for Battle of Grunwald (painting)
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DYK for University Times
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DYK for Foucauldian discourse analysis
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WMF's "rate this page"


I opened a discussion of the WMF's "rate this page" initiative to recruit editors from readers.

Such recruitment "surveys" are prohibited by the ethical code of public-opinion researchers.

Sincerely, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 22:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Piotrus,
 * This may interest you and the others in the Wikipedia Research Project, which seemed to hide from me as my eyes bled from the strain of reading your user page. ;;) For relaxation, I'm going to read a paper by K. C. Kiwiel, preferably typeset in a SIAM Journal. ;;D
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tb
I'm on Piotrus' talk page to discover if I should thank "Piotrus" (he/she whatever) for creating User Talk Page:Winston Trechane. That's I. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winston Trechane (talk • contribs) 14:59, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Go away, stay gone.
Stay off my talk page.Shajure (talk) 13:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This is not optional and is not a request. Stay off.  Not add it and then delete it.  Stay. Off. No, I will not "tone down", and don't need to:  This is toned down.  If you don't understand, you may want to see the block history of those who don't accept this injunction.  If you have some overwhelming urge to continue this discussion, feel free to do it here.Shajure (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Do not ever again post on my talk page. In the the more general case, do not incorrectly warn other users.  Seek guidance which you desperately need.

"If you don't understand, you may want to see the block history of those who don't accept this injunction." - If you think this is a threat, you need to consider some other way to spend your time.

Now to be clear: STAY OFF MY TALK PAGE!!!!! Shajure (talk) 20:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

ANI thread
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Radzymin
Good idea.  // Halibutt 01:22, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Merging Commonwealth history articles
I merged the texts of the two articles. The technical merge, which will eliminate the now duplicate History of Poland (1569–1795) needs to be done. However the last time I did merges I did something wrong and the history on one of the articles was missing or something like that. May be you could do the merge itself, to avoid this problem. Thank you. Orczar (talk) 17:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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Stec photo taken in 1946
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_execution_in_D%C4%99bica_(1946)#A_legendary_photo

I'd be happy to contribute a copy of the Stec photo taken in 1946 for this page since it is no longer available at the Debica link. I'm not a frequent contributor and have no idea where to send it. Contact me if you have an interest in the 1946 Stec photo.

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Silesian Military District
Some well-meaning wikipedians, plus myself as the originator, have managed to make a bit of a mess of the original Polish translation of this article. Would you mind taking a look at the original and the now translation? Many thanks -- can help as much as I'm able to with this. Buckshot06 (talk) 04:01, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

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Kaytek the Wizard
Hi Piotrus,

No problem, and thanks for the support! I’m not very familiar with the book (I’ve only read the first few chapters, in a friend’s translation), so it would be hard for me to expand the article much. Once I’ve read the whole book, I could add a plot summary, but (presumably since the book is not yet available in English), there are essentially no English references, other than mentioning the title, so the article is hard to expand.

I plan to read the book in the near future (friend’s translation), and see if I can find any other references, but likely can’t expand the article much.

Any help you could provide (esp. Polish references) would be much appreciated! (Please have a crack at it if you’d like.) The Polish Wikipedia page also isn’t very detailed, but any information from there would be welcome.

BTW, one weird point – it’s unclear whether the book was originally published in 1934 or 1935 (sources differ, one even gives 1934/35); would be nice if it could be cleared up, but I’m not holding my breath.

Thanks again!
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 23:26, 6 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the great expansion!
 * I copied the text about “as popular as Harry Potter” from the Janusz Korczak page, where it was also uncited. I’ve remove/reworded this, just stating that it was “highly popular”, and made a few minor edits.
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 23:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK proposal posted at DYK nominations: March 4, and reproduced below. Feel free to propose alternative hooks, and thanks for the push!
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DYK for Feeder of lice
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Disamming
I try to be but that's also a 2 year old edit :) --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 05:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Alfred Jahn
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Talkback
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Zygmunt Kaczkowski
Hey Piotrus, through chance rather than wisdom I managed to create an article on a Polish author. I browsed around but could not find any English-language sources through Google News and Books (I may well have the wrong spelling, of course). Maybe you can do something with it... Drmies (talk) 00:08, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Kaytek the Wizard
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Women Love Diamonds
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Labour Party (Poland)
Hi, Peter! I have added the basic information from this disambig page to the Labour Party disambig page under the current and historic Poland subtitles. Is there anything left useful for the Labor Party (Poland) disambig page to exist? --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd merge it. Good, but what to do, exactly? It seems to me that I have already merged the information, and what may remain is to delete the Labor Party (Poland) disambig page completely. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. The article on Polish camps needs a lot of work, and I am currently busy like hell, and I simply have no time to work on it. I have plenty of ideas for new articles, and way too little time. Greetings. Tymek (talk) 21:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks ...
... for your help on my home page. I've now taken it the next step to what I wanted (as best I now understand it; not delving too deeply).

Being more schooled, now, maybe, I can refer one here to the Manual of Style's description of what you provided me.

A small observation re: your own page here: Is the reference to "Archive 36" as the auto-archive-destination correct or out-of-date? I quail to propose the latter in the face of your immense contributions/apparent-Wiki-sophistication but, Maybe. No need for an answer. (But if I link to this, I want to know where to link, right? :-))

Anyway, thanks again. Swliv 00:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
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Re: Occupy Pittsburgh

 * restore, I see no AfD note on talk or in the article about a redirect-like deletion

The small, 7,605 bytes stub was merged and redirected to its parent article per best practice. What was deleted and why would you revert such a merge? Do you believe that a small stub on Occupy Pittsburgh is going to grow into a larger article? Viriditas (talk) 23:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Katyn
Witaj Piotrze, dobrze zrozumiales, poprosze o przetlumaczenie, Serdecznosci Lonio17 (talk) 20:07, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Wielkie dzieki, nazwy juz zrobiłem,pozdrawiam Lonio17 (talk) 05:00, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Mam tylko dwie wąpliwe nazwy miast: Przemyśl i Juchnów w obwodzie smoleńskim. To nie jest ten w jest w obwodzie kaluskim i po polsku Juchnow. Proponuję zostawić z polską pisownią, serd. Lonio17 (talk) 11:54, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Witaj, poproszę o korektę . Serdeczności z wiosennej W-wy, Lonio17 (talk) 11:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
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Gdańsk article
W artykule o Gdańsku, w rozdziałach o okresie międzywojennym, II wojnie światowej i okresie współczesnym, znalazłem rażące błędy i antypolskie tezy, które oznaczyłem szablonem {dubious}. Pierwszy dotyczy jakiegoś nalotu polskiego hydroplanu z Helu (!!!), drugi zaś tego, że po wojnie Gdańsk odbudowywano tak, by niemieckie zabytki, jako pozostałości "pruskiego barbarzyństwa" zniszczyć, co jest oczywistym fałszem. Nie mam czasu ani ochoty polemizować z naszymi "niemieckimi przyjaciółmi", ale wartoby to wyprostować. Pozdrawiam. belissarius (talk) 01:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Sejm of the Congress Poland
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Talk:Constitution of May 3, 1791 (painting)/GA1
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New article you may or may not be interested in
Hello; I saw that you had worked on the szlachta article. I created one about the Western Ukrainian nobility and invite you to contribute; perhaps you have Polish sources I don't have access to. Would the article be appropriate for Wikiproject Poland? Best,Faustian (talk) 13:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Polish civilian camps in World War II
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Wikimedia Research Newsletter
Hi Piotrus,

I think Dario already notified you, and it seemed you may be taking a break, but just in case you could still find the opportunity to contribute within the next four hours, this paper seems in the social sciences category and could benefit from a reviewer with good knowledge of the community (it concerns the debates about flagged revisions). Any other help is appreciated as well - we are quite behind schedule this time.

Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 17:05, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, Njullien just added a review, this is kind of an awkward coincidence - feel free to expand it though, or to pick another item, there are still around 10 uncovered... Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 18:22, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Be careful on bio banners
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Your opinion requested
On this CfD discussion, similar to a previous discussion you participated in December: Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_March_28 Thanks! --Karl.brown (talk) 21:36, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 March newsletter
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Rhodesiana
Thanks for the review! Have expanded. Hope it's okay now. <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">—<b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">Cliftonian</b> <b style="color:white; background:darkgreen">(talk)</b></b> 18:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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Wikiproject proposal
Hi Piotrus,

I'm really excited about your Wikiproject fellowship proposal. I added another recent bit of research to the 'Previous Work' section... hope you don't mind. I would love to talk about this with you at length. I've been complaining to Siko about getting WMF serious about WikiProjects for a while, and am starting to see promising signs.

Oh, and also your research question #4 is my dissertation topic :) Yeah, we definitely need to make this proposal happen. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. - J-Mo  Talk to Me   Email Me  03:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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Constitution of May 3, 1791 (painting)
No problem. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:13, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


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Stanisław Kania vs. the Nazis
Howdy, Piotr! Since I saw [literally: I unfortunately don't understand Polish] you'd remarked on the Dyskusja:Główna Komisja Badania Zbrodni Niemieckich w Polsce page, it occurred to me - and not for the first time, though it's been a while - you're the go-to guy on some topics of mutual interest. So I'd appreciate your input on the matter I just raised at Talk:Stanisław Kania. I'm just now coming into contact with some source materials that may be relevant to expand Wikipedia articles, so I'm taking some initial steps to help make these more accessible. -- Deborahjay (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Łukasz Orbitowski
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Haller's Blue Army
There is an ongoing neutrality dispute regarding Haller's Blue Army. Users Faustian and Malik Shabazz are re-adding phrases that through discussion on the "Talk" page were deemed as inaccurate, and through consensus removed. When I deleted them, they are now accusing me of war editing, and threatening to block me. I also noted that the entire "Controversies" section is written in a bias language that unfairly sensationalizes the events in question, and characterizes the issue in black and white only. If it's not too much trouble I ask that a senior contributor like yourself look at the issue. --91.150.222.225 (talk) 21:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


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Kleparów
Hi there, it is difficult to find English sources for this article. I created the page because I saw Polish wiki does have an article. Since I don't read that language, could you please expand it more from translating the Polish wiki and add some sources. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  03:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

TDYK
Hi, Thank you for your suggestion. I am of strong opinion that self-listing for any kind of notice is immodest; wikiholism-based sins of vanity and pride. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Serfdom in Poland
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Can you help with a quick translation?
Hi, Piotrus. :)

I'm sorry to drop in on you with such short notice, but I'm hoping you can give me a quick hand. The Wikimedia Foundation wants to announce the new Terms of Use and would like to make the announcement to the Polish language projects in Polish. We've got a translation of the Terms themselves (meta:Terms_of_use/pl), but I need to get two sentences translated from English into Polish as quickly as possible. Since we've engaged so much in volunteer work, of course I thought of you. I was hoping maybe you could assist.

The sentences are:
 * Our updated Terms of Use will become effective on May 20th, 2012. Find out more.

I think that this may be about right:
 * Nasze zaktualizowane Warunki użytkowania wejdzie w życie 20 maja 2012 roku. Dowiedz się więcej.

Is that okay, or is there a better way to say that? If you don't have time, or would prefer not to, please just let me know, and I'll track down somebody else. If we can get these done in time, we plan to make the announcements this weekend and will be able to actually change that date to the 15th. :)

Hope all is well with you! --Moonriddengirl/Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 12:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, Piotrus! Next time I'll know where to go to get something translated in a hurry. I don't do much IRC but follow the basics. :D


 * The Terms of Use you link at my talk page are the old Terms of Use, so I guess it's a good thing we're replacing them. If the issue is in the new ones, at meta:Terms_of_use/pl, you should be able to edit those, too. They may use an unfamiliar mechanism, though; they don't edit like regular wiki pages. At the top of the page, it says, This page is a translated version of a page Terms of use and the translation is 100% complete. If you see any issues, clicking on "translated version" will take you to an editable page. A weird editable page, if you're not used to it, but an editable page. :) --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 17:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyediting and removing of information
I am sure it was incidental, but in your c/e of this section, where did the mention of 14th-15th centuries go? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 15:36, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

The section title states the period over which the described changes took place, to which I refer in the replacement text. The elimination of prisoner-of-war slavery did not take place in the 14th and 15th centuries; it occurred gradually over the entire period. By the 14th century the conversion from captive slavery into hereditary serfdom was essentially complete, not only in Poland but over most of Christian Europe.

Note that the article is similarly unclear with regard to peasant or villein (chłop pańszczyźniany) vs. yeoman or free tenant (wolny kmieć) terminology. A peasant, by definition, is a farmer who does not own his land, but is settled on his lord's land in exchange for corvée labor (pańszczyzna). A farmer who owns his land and is free to migrate is not a peasant. I suggest you start from this resource. Hope this helps. :-) Freederick (talk) 18:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Association of Telehealth Service Providers for deletion
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