User talk:Pious Brother

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RS Discussion Amnesty.
The format of RFCs at this board have a standard format, please don't change the options. You cannot change the options after people have commented in any case. If you think there is supposed to be an option 5 you can say so in your comments in the discussion section. Thanks for your attention.Selfstudier (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The options you gave were not WP:RFCNEUTRAL and should have included an option to attribute as opinion. Pious Brother (talk) 16:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You are a new editor so I will explain once more. Attribute as opinion is Option 2. Those are standard options. And you cannot by yourself alter an RFC after it has started anyway. Please desist. If you think the RFC is not neutral you can say so in your comments.Selfstudier (talk) 16:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not new as I've been contributing intermittently since 2006 and I've seen RFCs where attribution was an option. I didn't realize attribution would be included in option 2. Thanks for explaining. Pious Brother (talk) 16:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Pious Brother, have you contributed with other accounts? If so, which ones? Thanks. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 10:27, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I have added an email to my account for administrators to ask me that should they wish to. Pious Brother (talk) 04:29, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

February 2022
— Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 10:38, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

EPAM Systems
I work in marketing at EPAM Systems. You recently added a paragraph to the EPAM page regarding controversy about the CEO's comments related to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I would like to suggest a couple tweaks based on the following points:


 * (1) There are two criticisms: (a) "refrained from condemning Russia" and (b) "rejected calls to assist the Ukranian military." The current page explains the CEO's defense to criticism (b), but not to (a). The currently cited Forbes article (and other sources) explain the CEO didn't want to condemn Russia publicly, because doing so would put the lives of Belarusian and Russian employees at-risk. I think this is important context to add to the page.


 * (2) The currently-cited Forbes article explains EPAM gave employees in Ukraine a $1,000 emergency grant and supported Ukranian relief efforts. Bloomberg also explained the company spent $50 million relocating staff out of war zones and providing humanitarian aid. I think adding this would offer a more complete picture like the sources do.

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia and the time you spend considering my suggestions. Naturally, pursuant to WP:COI, I am not allowed to make any edits on the subject and will defer to impartial Wikipedians. However, let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Ladida555 (talk) 21:31, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you . I will work on your suggestions. Pious Brother (talk) 19:13, 20 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your prompt and courteous response. For item (1) regarding the CEO not condemning Russia due to concerns over the safety of EPAM employees, here is the source material I am referring to:

Excerpted from Forbes

"Dobkin also defended his initial statement on the war, which mentioned neither President Putin, Russia nor his native Belarus. “I have a very strong reason why. I have senior people in Belarus and I know if I risk this, they can be arrested,” says Dobkin. “So I have responsibility for 14,000 people in Ukraine, but I also have responsibility for 18,000 people in Belarus and Russia. These are good people.”

''Belarus, which has been dubbed Europe’s last dictatorship, led a brutal crackdown against pro-democracy protests last year, and now imposes prison sentences of up to seven years for just following opposition accounts on the messaging app Telegram. “Arkadiy’s from Belarus, and he has an intimate background of how things happen there,” says a senior Epam staffer who asked not to be named. “He’s facing an impossible position because of the laws in Belarus and Russia. . . people could easily go to jail just based on whatever he’s posting publicly.”''

Excerpted from Bloomberg (reposted on Yahoo!)

"In an interview with Bloomberg News, Dobkin said he had been clear in internal town hall meetings that “Russian aggression” was to blame for the conflict. But he said that he had to be careful with his public statements as he does not want to jeopardize the safety of his employees based in Russia and Belarus.

''“We are an international company,” he said. “When you make a statement you can endanger people in Belarus and Russia who could be arrested.”''


 * Let me know if I can be of any additional assistance and thanks again for your time/attention. Best regards. Ladida555 (talk) 20:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

talk page guidelines
In several recent instances, you have said something similar to: Why are you so opposed to covering the opposition to this policy? in reference to Zero-COVID and allegations of undercounting. You have also referenced the talk page guidelines in criticizing my specific behavior.

I would urge you to re-read those guidelines, and pay particular attention to the point: Misrepresentation of other people particularly the sub-point: [Be] precise in quoting others. When referencing other people's contributions or edits, use "diffs."

I have seen many instances where you vaguely refer to the position of others as "opposed" to something that they are very clearly in favor of, but not as intensely in favor of as you appear to be, and not in the specific way that you appear to be. Moving forward, please try to be precise in your criticisms of others, and try to criticize their interpretation of content, not their conduct. Use diffs and quotes to describe what they have said, not your interpretation of their position. My third grade teacher had it right: when we assume, we make an ass out of u and me. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 12:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Dudi Kalish moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Dudi Kalish, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Thefinaldestiny (talk) 04:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dudi Kalish (July 23)
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Greenman (talk) 08:23, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Hasidic Jewish music
Hello, Pious Brother. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Hasidic Jewish music, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 04:01, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Hasidic Jewish music


Hello, Pious Brother. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Hasidic Jewish music".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 03:12, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Dudi Kalish
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 09:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Dudi Kalish


Hello, Pious Brother. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Dudi Kalish".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 08:34, 23 January 2023 (UTC)