User talk:Pippu d'Angelo/Archive1

Hi, my name is Pippu d'Angelo. My parents are Sicilian, from the province of Catania, around Fiumefreddo and Mascali, between Mount Etna and the Mediterannean. I co-found the Sicilian version of Wikipedia in October 2004. If you are interested in dicussing the Sicilian language, please come to the linguasiciliana forum. This is what you will find on my user page in scn:wiki, in Sicilian of course.

'' Ciau a tutti vuàutri chi siti amici dâ lingua siciliana. Mi chiamu Pippu d'Angelo e campu n Australia. Li mei ginitura vennu dâ pruvincia Catania, nnî parti di Ciumifriddu (Fiumefreddo di Sicilia) e Mascali.''

''Parrai u sicilianu quannu era picciriddu, e nni st'ùrtimi tri misi riscuprìi la mia bedda lingua matri. Mi putiti cuntattari a pippudoz at yahoo puntu it. Participu ntô linguasiciliana forum. ''

''Finarmenti, la nostra lingua millinaria pò aviri na prisenza nzèmmula cu tutti l'àutri lingui dû munnu, e chissu è quarchi cosa chi cci mèrita. Salutamu. ''

Uttùviru, 2004 (l'accuminzata dâ wikipedia siciliana) 

Pippu, thanks for your kind words on the Constance of Sicily article. I added a few things, see the talk page for that article. One a bigger scale, one thing we could use is articles on important people in Sicilian history just below the monarch level, like Stephen of Perche. Loren Rosen 07:06, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

AFL
Pippu,

Re: "a banana bender with taped back ears and no neck who doesn't mind sniffing the odd backside". You're a funny guy! Ciao. -- Ian &equiv; talk 05:23, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject AFL
Ciao,

Good to see a fellow Italian on here, even if you are Sicilian (I'm Calabrese BTW). Just wondering if you'd be interested in joining WikiProject AFL? Cheers Rogerthat 06:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)


 * So you're in! Cool. Don't forget to add your name to the List of participants on the Project page Cheers, Rogerthat 11:23, 18 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Hehehe :D Just tell the wife it's very important work :). When I came to this site I had a quick look at some of the AFL players on offer and when I saw legends like Norm Smith weren't on here I figured something needed to be done. Plus there's not that much on the web when it comes to players, especially past ones. Anyway mate look forward to collaborating with people such as yourself on this. Ciao, Rogerthat 11:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Sicilian School
Pippu, thank you for your feedback on the discussion page of the Sicilian School, I changed the text to include the names of some scholars, but i fear i may give the impression to have left out intentionally other professors from other countries (I don't know much about them) who deserve to be quoted. If you have some names in mind, feel free to include them. I'm giving a look at bibliographies. No holidays in Sicily this year! But i'll try to be more present on the Sicilian Wiki, so i can learn how to write on it. Ciao e stammi bene! --Wikipedius 22:22, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Image:WesternBulldogsLogo.png
Hi, I noticed you see to be using this image in your signature. Unfortunately, it has a non-free copyright. So, it can only be used in cases where "fair use" applies (e.g. in an article about the team). So, its probably best not to use it elsewhere. --Rob 00:43, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:TPR domain 1.png
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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Longhair 10:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:TPR domain 2.png
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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Longhair 10:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Reversion in Romance languages
Every Italian dialect, French dialect or other Romance language dialect is recognized by Ethnologue and has its own page: check Piedmontese language, Lombard language, Emiliano-Romagnolo, Ligurian language (Romance), Neapolitan language, Venetian language, Corsican language, Picard language, Norman language and many many many others. So you put all of these languages/dialects in the article, and clutter it irremediably, or you remove the Sicilian languages, that doesn't deserve more than any other one. GhePeU 10:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi mate
G'day, thought I'd drop you a line. How's your work over at the wiki siciliano going? You'll be pleased to know someone started up an article on your man Daniel Giansiracusa. ;)  R o  gerthat  Talk  12:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Footscray
Thank you for the kind words. I am indeed from Footscray. New here so trying to keep to non-contentious issues but will no doubt screw up at times. Grusl 20:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

G'day, I wish I could add some more photos of F'cray! Problem is that I have moved up to Cairns. I worked in Footscray last year and the thing that I found the most beautiful about Footscray was the entrance into it, the cargo and cranes which I found quite beautiful and striking and as a result, I now have a stackload of photos of cargo (I loved watching the colours change on the crates). Next time in Melbourne, I'll try to make an effort to get down there and maybe take a photo of Nicholson St. Please don't discredit ordinary scenery, it often is the best :) Frances76 11:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Ha ha, you win :) It will be a while til I can get back to Melbourne.... Frances76 07:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Requesting short translation
I'm working on translating a biography from Italian to English, in order to write a featured article. If possible, can you please translate just this paragraph:
 * "Il misero Maggi, che in secolo vilissimo nulla aveva a donare ed abbisognava di lutto e di tutti, forse credeva farsene un protettore, forse schivare da penna terribile del maldicente, quando ne cantava:
 * « L'uom tre volte chiarissimo e divino
 * » Il famoso immortai Pietro Aretino (1)."

Thanks for your help :) &mdash; 0918 BRIAN &bull; 2006-03-14 04:53


 * The main writing is from 1862. I'm not sure how old the quote is. It could be as old as the 1600s. &mdash; 0918 BRIAN &bull; 2006-03-14 07:22

My Username
Hi. In June last year my username User:Jebus Christ was blocked. I discovered recently that the admin responsible User:Secretlondon was involved in protecting the article relating to the profet mahommed images under the banner of freedom of speach. I personally find this hypocritical.

I've started a petition to get my username back. If you support this can you please sign my petition on my talk page User talk:Jebus Christ.

Thanks Jimididit 12:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Amateur AFL teams
Hello Pippu d'angelo. Recently, North Carolina Tigers was put on Articles for deletion/North Carolina Tigers by myself, with the result being to merge the team to its respective league - United States Australian Football League, on the grounds that the performance and competition level is not of first-class standard, although the leagues in themselves are of interest. At the time I wrote a rather large discussion, indicating that the AfD could be a litmus-test or precedent for similar AFL teams and I would like to see what people think about this, as to I (or someone else) should go ahead and merge them, without sending a whole pile to AfD. I have posted this at WP:AWNB and WP:AFL and would appreciate some feedback.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 02:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Simon Atkins
Hey mate, it's a really easy mistake to make when you carry over a template. As an Essendon supporter, it even crossed my mind very briefly that Sheeds may have picked him up somewhere in the draft and he donned one of those long sleeve jumpers for us, but no, just for the scraggers and the roys i'm quite positive. cheers Havencheese 12:37, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Sicilian Project
Hello! Thank you for all of your encouragement and interest in the project. I am still in class, so I have been rather hesitant about starting a big project (I was planning on starting it in the Summer - but I will have some more time to work on it soon), so I am very glad you took the initiative, and I appreciate your suggestions for the project. The more people involved, the better, so anyone you know who would be interested is great. Look forward to talking to you soon. -AKeen 03:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * As a person of Calabrian descent, it pains me to discuss something that aims to further Sicily's heritage pippu ;) :D Seriously, I've taken a look at what you've set up so far and it looks impressive, the only advice I could add would be to add some sort of progress % on each area (such as key Sicilian landmarks), which gives the Project some sort of scope and goal, as well as a sense of achivement. Good work so far on the page.  R o  gerthat  Talk  04:22, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm feeling rather dim - I can't find the project page in question... help! Jigsawpuzzleman 18:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


 * OK I found it, thanks. Jigsawpuzzleman 18:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

About WikiProject Sicily
Hi Pippu, sorry if I wasn't able to answer you right on time, but I'm full of plenty of work to do this time. About the questions you posted in my talkpage: --Angelo 12:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) I think it'd be a rather good idea to leave a message both on the Italian and the Sicilian wiki community. Even if we speak English here ...
 * 2) For the comuni template, it is just the template used by all the italian towns and cities. I think we should not implement any template for Sicilian comuni, as they are administratively part of Italy, and the current one would fit much better in my opinion. For now let's think first about articles ;)

Progress in Sicily Categorization
I've finally finished migrating all of the articles in "Category: Towns in Sicily" and "Category:Cities in Sicily" to the appropriate "Municipalities of the Province of..." Category. These old categories are now officially empty, which I think is a good step forward in the project. Also, you might want to check out, which has recently been created- AKeen 18:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Who supports the bulldogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you support the Bulldogs please put your name here Sony Bill Williams has returned lately it seems! C'mon Bulldogs!!!!!!!Ohnomad 09:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

AFL season article naming convention
As a participant of WikiProject AFL I thought you might be interested in this. I have started a vote to get a consensus on the naming convention for AFL season articles. You can participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject AFL. Cheers. Remy B 13:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Franco Battiato
Dear friend, I've just expanded to a sizeable size the entry about our favourite Sicilian singer. Can you copyedit it now, if your English is better than mine? Ciaooo!!! Attilios 14:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Gela
Just expanded Gela, which could need your copyedit help. Also added Template:Province of Caltanissetta. Attilios 22:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

suffix -ty in Sicilian
I learned that there are two suffixes for English -ty in Sicilian: -tà and -tati. Which one is more preferable? Grazzî! Frosty 00:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Australia/Anniversaries
Hi Pipput. I have started a proposal at Portal talk:Australia for an inclusion of an anniversary/on this day section to be displayed on the portal. If you are interested in this making this happen, you can comment there or go to the anniversary pages and adding in things that you consider to be notable. (Yes, possibly contrary to public opinion, that can include AFL events). Regards,

Italian naming convention
Dear Pippu, thanks for your help. Just a note: when you change the name of communes articles (i.e.: san Cataldo --> San Cataldo (CL), please first verify the integrity of redirect links to it (using What links here button). For example, in the San Cataldo, Palermo there was a reference :For the tha Italian commune, see San Cataldo that, after your moving, referred to the disambig page. See you soon and thanks. user:Attilios

Syracuse
Maybe you'll be interested in this: Talk:Syracuse. Ciao!!

Sicily
Hello. Would you be interested in voting for History of Sicily for COTW here ? Thank you. -- Darwinek 20:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

COTW Project
You voted for History of Sicily, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. Davodd 00:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Italian Categorization Scheme
There is a lot of conversation going on about how Italian towns/cities/provinces should be categorized at Category_talk:Cities_and_towns_in_Italy. You might want to check it out and weigh in on the subject. There might be big structural changes. - AKeen 03:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Commune
Hello, I've responded to your comments about translation of the Italian comuni over at Category talk:Cities and towns in Italy. In short, I argued that "commune" is the standard English translation for this term. Even if "commune" is not used in English to refer to municipalities in English-speaking countries, it is used to refer to French, Italian, etc. local government entities, and I provided dictionary entries to back me up on this. I don't think we should overtranslate. john k 11:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I certainly know about the hippy meaning of "commune," but words can have more than one meaning. All of the English dictionaries either of us has so far mentioned include a definition of "commune" which includes French and Italian communes/comuni. The wikipedia article italicizing "commune" seems to be based on the same misconception as calling Italian comuni municipalities - that "commune" in English is not an appropriate translation of the French commune. But it seems clear from our readings of dictionaries that "commune" is an appropriate translation of French commune (and Italien comune). That this isn't the primary meaning of the word is irrelevant. Perhaps the word "count" would form a good example. The word "Count" has an English noun meaning related to the verb "count" - a "vote count," for instance. And I'd think that this would be the primary English noun meaning of "count." That doesn't mean that we should translate French comte, German graf, etc, as "Earl". "Commune" is the appropriate English term for these local government units. I don't see why we shouldn't use it. john k 12:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Constantly Constance
Just a reply to your note. Many thanks: it's good to meet someone so alert about the articles. Though I've got a degree in History (medieval specialism), I don't have enough history books around the house, and I'm too far from a good library, to really be much use resolving the issues - but I'm an English-usage maniac, and so I can maybe help with copy editing. I've had some adventures in Sicily myself, and so just reading these articles brings the whole magical place back to me. Keep up all your good work. qp10qp 15:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Tables
Just so you know, I didn't compose either table. Gnangarra created the first, and Snottygobble the second. I simply added the box around the first to differentiate it from comments. Thanks, --cj | talk 06:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Top work !
Well done with some of your efforts on Aussie Rules and the doggies ! Good also to find a football (soccer) supporter who is not completely anti-AFL ! Perhaps you could help with the Italian translation. This page is not looking too flash at the moment. --Rulesfan 04:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: name change of soccer project

 * I'm ok with what you proposed, and I have said as much back at Wikiproject AFL - for what it's worth. πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  07:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks mate for the supporting reply... it seems anyway that there isn't a consensus on what to change the name to anyway so it may not matter after all. Cheers. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 09:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Non-football question
Pippu, it just occurred to me that you might know the answer to this. Do Italians refer to the "toe/heel of Italy"? Is it an English language thing? I can't find many references to "Punta dell'Italia" or "Tallone dell'Italia" on the web. Are such terms regarded as offensive? I was wondering as I do a bit of work on World War 2 articles, where it crops up quite a bit, and I've never been sure if it's really encyclopedic to use such terms. Grant65 | Talk 01:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Grant65 | Talk 15:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

wikiProject:Italy
Would you like to collaborate to a WikiProject Italy? Check my talk, it should be a redirect to the proposal page if you're interested. Bye. --Attilios 18:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Here is the temporary page for WikiProject Italy. Kingjeff 17:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

AFL Quiz
Sorry, Pippu. Given that you had in some sense been right about the previous question, I chose a Footscray question for you. But pointing out that I'd done that would have made it a bit too obvious! JPD (talk) 14:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Sicilian flag - revised


Here is a new version I made, it should fit better with the official one: the triskelion is for sure the official one, as I've taken it from the Regione Sicilia website. If you like it, you may also consider using it rather than the old version. --Angelo 02:36, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

AFL Quiz
Hi there. Just thought I'd mention that I answered your last question at the AFL quiz and I'm waiting with anticipation to see if I am correct. --TheGrantley 07:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Arab Norman period
Thanks for pointing that out, I changed it to 1061-1194AD.--Thesicilianist 00:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

invite
Graeme Bartlett 03:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Contributo
Ciao, puoi dare il tuo contributo partecipando a questa discussione. Ho visto che hai contribuito pure alla voce it:football australiano. Mio zio è cittadino australiano e vive in Haberfield, New South Wales quindi io son stato in Australia per 6 volte. Io considero il football australiano sport nazionale e più popolare in Australia ma alcuni contestano. Amichevoli saluti.--PIO (talk) 15:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Neutralisation
I have balanced out discussion on Chilean Australian so go to the talkpage and view my comments please. Thankyou TeePee-20.7 (talk) 16:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Chilean-Australian. Resolution sought
ATTN: PelleSmith, Pippu d'angelo, Itsmejudith, Blnguyen, Angusmclellan, SQL, Ned Scott and AussieLegend

I think it is in all our interests that we resolve the debate on the cited number of Chilean-Australians.

TeePee and myself have presented our arguments and rebuttals for some days now.

I thank you for your attention to the issues, and especially for bearing with us in this challenging debate. While I can not speak for TeePee, I would assume he is equally grateful.

But now is the time to get this debate finally finished.

I have drafted a comprimise version here (15:58, 17 May 2008 ) which provides references to the Jupp 2001 estimate and the ABS 2006 ancestry estimate, with caveats attached which explain their respective difficiencies.

Now I respectfully ask if you could pass judgement on my text for this version, with a support or oppose provided on Talk:Chilean Australian. If you have not responded by 20 May I will presume you have elected not to take part.

I myself, and I would hope and expect TeePee, will abide by your ruling.

Thank you. Kransky (talk) 16:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * "Although I do think it is in all our interest that we resolve the debate, I still think there are some issues needed to be addressed. I am equally as grateful as Kransky for all your time and effort but do not agree with his revision especially since it still contains information which has been referenced by an invalid reference which has been the major issues I have had with him throughout the whole history of this article. My version here provides references to the Embassy 2006 estimate and the ABS 2006 ancestory estimate. I respectfully ask you view my edit first as I asked first and tell me what problems you have with it before viewing Kransky's revision. (This was the terms I agreed to Kransky before promising I would not revert your revision, as you did not respect my request and want your revision to be viewed first I do not see why I should respect your request and let the article remain in it's current revision especially since you have provided that invalid reference which you have been doing for months). Thankyou TeePee-20.7 (talk) 17:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Dogs or Scraggers?
Pip, can you have a look at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_AFL and help me work out/decide/offer your opinion on whether it should be Category:Western Bulldogs players or Category:Footscray Football Club players or both? Should EJ be in the Category:Footscray Football Club players cat and Wil Minson only in Category:Western Bulldogs players, with Scott West in both? We'd value your input. The-Pope (talk) 12:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Firstly - sorry to nag but

Please remember to mark your edits as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.'

secondly - I don't think I want to be directed to a talk page of another project necessarily - eg through your signature link. I am not registered with that project and my comment refers to this project not that one and your edits here (not necessarily there) Regards Matilda talk 04:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

(test) --πιππίνυ δ - (dica)  00:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)