User talk:Pius 2021

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Happy editing! Nick Moyes (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the constructive comments, Nick. I already requested a change in name. It is my first contribution on Wikipedia and I still find it quite hard to navigate the technical details, the process is quite different that what I have encountered elsewhere, so please bear with me. :-) Please be assured that this is not an autobiographic article, I am not writing for myself. As I said in my reasons for the unblock request, my idea was to create several articles for people who currently work in the field of Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy and started with Dr. Olivotto as a test article as he is one of the most active and prolific experts in the field. I intend to do this for several other experts in the field. A lot of patients on social media groups ask questions on different prominent contributors in the field, who works on what, and I thought that Wikipedia can be a good source for that. I am definitely not paid by anybody for that and I have tried to be as objective as possible, linking to articles from Google Scholar and avoiding words that sound like promotion. I believe that Dr. Olivotto meats several of the criteria for inclusion as he has not only contributed numerous articles in the field but is also on the board of different magazines and is the principal investigator on key new drugs. I will rework the article putting the articles in Selected Publications. How can I eventually remove the article and work on it in my Sandbox only without publishing it publicly, so I can get the approval that everything is properly formatted? Thanks! HCMNews (talk) 09:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome - and a few concerns to raise with you
Welcome to Wikipedia. It's great to have experts in their field here on Wikipedia. However, as an administrator, I think I should raise a few key points so that you are aware of our rules and policies, and how you have inadvertently broken a few of them.

Firstly, we do not permit usernames which either are - or suggest they are - operated by more than one person. As such, HCMNews unfortunately does do that, and it would be better to request a name change (see WP:RENAME) or simply start a new account and abandon this one entirely. Either route is acceptable.

Secondly, you do appear to be trying to write a rather autobiographical page, rather than an an encyclopaedic summary of what others have written about the subject. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and Conflict of Interests, as both are relevant here. Papers you have published on the subject of Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy ought to go in 'Selected publications' and should not be used as citations about you directly. You might care to read WP:ACADEMIC to understand out 'notability criteria' for academics. You may well meet them - I am not sure, but you ought not to be the person writing about yourself here. Only information that can be Verified from published sources (including biographies of university websites). However, it is not OK simply to copy/paste them into Wikipedia, as that is a breach of copyright. We required editors to write and rephrase sources in their own words so as not to cause copyright problems. For that reason I am afraid I have had to remove one key paragraph as it is directly taken from a copyrighted source. (See comparison here)

What you could most usefully contribute towards is furthering the encyclopaedic content in your specialist subject by critiquing and improving articles in that field. It's fair to say that Wikipedia takes a different approach to writing than academia does. Here, Original Research is frowned upon, whereas summarising what other secondary sources have written about a subject is what we do best ... or try to! Medical articles have a higher standard of reliability for citation requirements than all other article types - see WP:MEDRS for an explanation.

Ironically, I'm heading off tomorrow morning to my local hospital for an ECG, having experienced some of the symptoms of HCM, so I might well be reading that article in greater detail if they find anything abnormal! Either way, I hope this hasn't put you off contributing to Wikipedia, but please be aware that there is quite a learning curve for anyone wanting to share their knowledge and work with others here on this encyclopaedia. Let me know if I can help you further, or ask questions relating to editing at The Teahouse. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

September 2021
 Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of name and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions other than promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must:
 * Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the Paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  23:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

How did you come to write about Dr. Olivotto? The sources that you offered seem to mostly be his work- this could not support an article about him. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. 331dot (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all the valuable comments and suggestions. As I already mentioned above, my intention was to create a series of articles on people who currently contribute in the field of HCM as I have been observing it for quite a long time, and I decided to start with Dr. Olivotto because he had been active in virtually all areas of this field. Now I realize that my approach to writing the article had not been correct as it should have relied more on secondary sources and the formatting should have been different. This is why I would like to kindly ask one of the administrators, who had commented here, to delete the page. I cannot delete it myself because my account is blocked. I will then try to rewrite it properly in the accepted format and will go through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process, where I can learn from the experience of others in writing on scientific topics. Thanks a lot for deleting it!HCMNews (talk) 11:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Dear admins, may I ask you to speed up the process of unblocking me so I can delete the article and rewrite it in a more proper format via the AfC? I already changed my user name and I believe that I have given the requested explanation for an unblock. Thanks a lot for your support! Pius 2021 (talk) 07:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has no firm deadlines and is a project conducted mostly by volunteers in their free time, so please be patient. Do you work in this industry, even if you are not writing about people associated with you directly? 331dot (talk) 09:33, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I understand that patience is needed. :-) I just wanted to see if there is anything more I can do to get unblocked. No, I have nothing to do with this industry. My family is affected by HCM. Pius 2021 (talk) 11:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The article is in place now at Iacopo Olivotto. That's where you'd go to improve it. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  13:44, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mike, but I am still blocked and cannot make any edits. :-( Can you please unblock me? Pius 2021 (talk) 15:33, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi guys, I would really appreciate an unblock so I can start editing. Or do I need to do anything in addition to be unblocked? Thanks for the help!Pius 2021 (talk) 14:24, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Pinging blocking editor,. I don't know if you saw my lengthy note to this editor prior to you blocking them for promotional editing? Rather than unblock them myself, would you review and make a decision, please? Thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, Nick! As I said, I am still learning and all comments are very valuable to me, I simply did not have time to react to yours before being blocked because I was away for a couple of days. I intend to remove the article, edit it and submit it through the AfC process, before I re-submit it again with other articles on the subject to follow. Life is a constant learning! :-) Pius 2021 (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You’re welcome. You can leave the article in place and work on it there, as it was move into mainspace by by the admin who blocked you. Focus on paring out irrelevant content to highlight notability. (less is more!) And move his published works into their own section. (pleased to report my ECG came back normal) Nick Moyes (talk) 05:53, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for the unblock, guys! And Nick, I am very happy that your ECG came back normal, that's great news, was just about to ask. One question: should I remove the photo from the article or leave it there? I see some similar articles with photos and some without. Pius 2021 (talk) 07:05, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So long as it is not a copyright image taken off another website where it’s free use is not made totally clear, or has been passed to you via another person to upload, then you can leave it there. If you took it yourself, that would suggest a possible close link to the subject (and thus a potential ‘Conflict of Interest’ you really would need to declare or explain it on your userpage . The reason many articles don’t have photos is purely because it’s so hard to obtain properly licensed ones. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:25, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, Nick. The photo was taken from the site of a conference, they did not have a clear copyright policy so I removed it. I have actually decided to delete the whole article for now as I still need to learn how to write properly with secondary references which seems to be quite tricky in the scientific area, how notability can be highlighted, etc., and I do not feel comfortable having a content online which is not fully up to the standards. Maybe the idea to start my contributions with articles about scientists in that area was not the best one. I should maybe practice on other related topics and then revisit the idea about articles about scientists. In any case, thanks a lot about all your advice, I may need it again :-) Have a great weekend! Cheers, Pius 2021 (talk) 08:04, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

globally renamed HCMNews to Pius 2021
globally renamed HCMNews to Pius 2021 -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 18:20, 11 September 2021 (UTC)