User talk:Pkeets/Archive 1

Please don't keep adding your forum to the Roger Daltrey page. It doesn't actually add anything to our knowledge about Daltrey and anyone who really cares can find it by other means. James James 00:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Questions about Wiki Experience from a Newbie
Hi, In December I tried my first minor edits to Wikipedia articles and checking back now, I don't see them. I thought these were bits of information that were commonly known, but the page history indicates maybe they weren't accepted. Is this likely, and why? Should I provide references to verify what I add? Also, I've got a snotty message from some guy about adding a fan forum link, when I see these on plenty of other celebrity articles. What should I think about this? Thanks for the help. Pkeets 01:52, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Pkeets,
 * It's recommended that you always cite your sources, even if it seems to be common knowledge. (Some users may think it unverifiable and remove it.)
 * On the fan forum link: if you see the fan forum links on numerous other articles, mention that in a message on the talk page. If the subject of that article indeed has a large fan forum, and it's relevant to the article, it would probably be useful; however, if you are getting warnings about it, it may be best to first discuss. --Wikiacc 20:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I did notice that some articles linked to the ones I worked on are now missing, which leaves a link hanging. If you're going to delete articles, shouldn't someone clean up these broken links? Pkeets 02:42, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It depends on the article. If the subject of the article deleted is non-notable or otherwise not deserving of an article, the links to it are usually removed. If the subject is notable, we usually keep the links so people can find them later and create a good article. (Redirects to the deleted page are always deleted.) --Wikiacc 20:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Sandii & the Sunsetz
This article was deleted because it did not contain evidence of the topic's notability. I think this was too quick for that: you should have been given time to fix it up after just creating it. However, in this case the text is copied directly from the websites listed at the bottom, which is not allowed. If you are making articles from the Requested articles page you should do a little check to make sure the text is not copied from somewhere else. —Centrx→talk &bull; 04:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, N. Can you retrieve the info for me? This was an "article requested for two years" and I had done considerable work in assembling the info, which I was in process of assembling into an article. It was ill considered to save it in that condition, but the fact remains now that the work I had done on it is lost if you can't retrieve it. Pkeets 04:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I've taken a closer look. Here is the beginning and end parts, that you created. Everything in between was from the linked websites. Note in the future though, you can't begin the page with the copied content and then work from there. It's possible no one will notice, but if the copyright holder does contact the Wikimedia Foundation, the entire page might end up having to be deleted (and it also does pose this practical problem of an admin hastily deleting it after seeing a copy-paste page, which are typically not improved).

Good job. Thanks. I added just a wee bits. Bearian 21:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

VK bands
The only thing I can think of that would establish notability in any of these cases would be a discography, maybe. All those bands never released anything major in Japan that I can think of offhand, and I'm not even sure if any of them ever released an album. You're looking at bands that lasted two to three years, and that was it. As such, they don't meet notability guidelines as they stand now.

what you need is back issues of Fool's Mate and SHOXX, and I don't have any from the time period you need. If you can find scans, I can certainly read them and add them if they're useful. What you might want to do in the meantime is let the articles go, and start with a label article on Key Party, because they had anybody who was anybody at the time. however, I would suggest you move your current articles to userspace and continue to work on them. However, TBH, I don't think any of those bands were notable for themselves; rather, they were notable only because a small niche group of people picked up on the genre and pushed it regardless of quality of music. However, a label as a driving force is notable, esp. with the Key Party concerts and omnibus albums. Matina and Soleil did similar things as well. In short, come at your topic from a different angle, and remember to sign your posts with four tildes. MSJapan 00:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Edit the page you want to move, select all the text, and then copy/paste it to a subpage (you would make a subpage by doing User:Pkeets/whatever, and you can do that repeatedly), and that's it. Japanese Net sources on VK bands are minimal, and usually don't meet RS.  For MR, I found grass thread, the VK DB, an even worse article on the Japanese WP, and that's about it.  You really need the mags, because they were mainstream enough and covered the bands multiple times. MSJapan 01:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Deleted Key Party Records Reference
Let me quote the FAQ on jrocksaga.com:

''I'm a 20-something portuguese lass. My online nickname is klept, although I have a couple of other aliases (it's pretty random but I'm pretty much the same person! ;). I keep this site because I love japanese rock and I want to share it with as many people as possible and also because this site makes a good web project where I can experiment different ideas.''
 * › Who are you and why do you keep this website?

So basically, it's just a random person running a self-published web page with a lot of content on Japanese rock music. Or in other words, a fan site. This does not qualify as a reliable source per WP:RS and hence should not be used to reference information on Wikipedia. I know there are not all that many reliable English sources on modern Japanese music but you can always turn to places like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan and editors from that project if you need help with Japanese sources.

One more thing: If one of your additions is being removed, with a rationale and/or an applicable guideline given in the other editors edit summary, try to discuss this matter immediately, or add a rationale in your own summary, should you revert the removal (like you did here, but without a summary). More communication between editors = less stress for everyone involved. Have a nice day - Cyrus XIII 15:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yoshukai International
Sorry about re adding fact tag, missed the retired gynaecologist bit when I skimmed the ref 1st time, just seen to many MA instructors claiming the title dr/prof, without evidence of or, usually, any legitimate reason at all. --Nate 08:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Thanks
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Operation Ore
Thanks for figuring out that Darren Campbell stuff. Sorry I got the wrong one. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Your missilina rei article
Hi, been away for some time now, so I just thought I should let you know I've responded to your comments on my user page. Bfg 15:40, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Visual kei
Unfortunately, I don't think I can really help. I've only worked on visual kei related stuff as part of a project to work on all the "music ofs" and such articles - I don't really have any particular knowledge of visual kei, or sources that would really help expand info in that area. Sorry... Tuf-Kat 03:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well... he's probably right. In most cases, fan sites are not reliable sources - we didn't use to be very strict about that kind of thing, but they really should be verified with more appropriate resources. Tuf-Kat 18:22, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Rock gods
Help:Redirect may help you. Will (talk) 21:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * - use that to edit the page so it isn't a redirect. Will (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Aliene Ma'riage
I know you have worked on this before - he deleted the main page and "integrated" the info into the opening paragraph. I actually started this hoping someone would come flesh it out. Will you take a look? []Denaar 13:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to get around digging up some information on Missalina Rei and see what I can find. They aren't a recent band so that means digging through magazines. I do know a little about the Bass player's later bands. :) Denaar 05:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Missalina Rei
I understand what you're saying, though the Japanese Wikipedia version of the band was also deleted back in december (granted, it was speedied, but still). If you're still concerned then you have an arguable case at WP:DRV, I'll support you taking it there. Wizardman 03:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Award
I think you deserve this...

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Talkback
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I removed something
I have just removed something...thinking its to be on the talk page...but now that i see it was you I am not sure...is it normal to see the nominated for deletion on main page?? I think it set a POV tone right of the bat if this page/person is relevant..but like i said did not see it was you ...O yes i mean here --->Masami Tsuruoka ...anyways if this is the norm pls revert my edit.Moxy (talk) 02:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * So i am done ..sorry i took over that article...i am the guy that takes care of the Order of Ontario/Canada etc people. Moxy (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Redirecting
Hey Pkeets. I'd just like to inform you, that to redirect a page, you do this "#REDIRECT Pagelink". I hope to see you making more great articles! Thanks for the contributions! If you have any questions, just reply here. :D Endofskull (talk) 02:11, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Julia Usher
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Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I  did not delete the article, for the award indicates importance. But it's only a 4th place award from a specialized society. Recording are asserted, but details will be required to show notability I advise you to do this very quickly, before the article gets nominated for deletion by a regular deletion process.  DGG ( talk ) 22:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but note there are two awards listed.Pkeets (talk) 23:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, there. I've lest you some further advice and sources at WikiProject Composers. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:09, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

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Article creations
Thanks for your brilliant article creation work; in light of the high quality, I've asked an admin to give you autopatrolled rights, a sign of a trusted content creator. Many thanks, and congrats! Ironholds (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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Could I have an administrator's assistance for this review? It appears that the consensus is to reverse the deletion of the article, so I need to get that done. A suggestion has been made to place the reinstated article into my user space for revision. Pkeets (talk) 14:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅. The restored article, with its history, is now at User:Pkeets/Kinuyo Yamashita. I moved the version you had there to User:Pkeets/Kinuyo Yamashita-2; if you have no further use for that one, please tag it and it will be deleted. JohnCD (talk) 15:08, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Pkeets (talk) 15:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I have done two things to the restored version which you will need to undo after you move it back to the mainspace: added a userspace draft template at the top, and "commented out" the categories at the bottom with . Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:17, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Minako Hamano
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Kinuyo Yamashita
Hi, been absent for a few days. Did you get everything you needed? Or do you still need anything from deleted revisions of the article? Stephen 01:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Well done. --Stephen 22:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Books LLC, Alphascript, Betascript, Fastbook Publishing ...
Hi Pkeets, I've removed the following Books LLC reference: See: User:Fences and windows/Unreliable sources and Amazon.com controversies. Playmobilonhishorse (talk) 07:46, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-musician-Introduction-Watanabe-N-S/dp/1157702058/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294643187&sr=1-1 archived here.
 * http://booksllc.net/book.cfm?id=3742766&CFID=4002711&CFTOKEN=75835016 archived here.
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Hi there. What is your source for this edit? Per WP:BLP, this requires a source, and the only other place I see this DOD is on the Portuguese Wikipedia, which is not a reliable source to report someone's death. Canadian  Paul  18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Pkeets! I am Dthomsen8 and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. Thank you for your contributions. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions check out Questions, or feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or type helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. Again, welcome! DThomsen8 (talk) 14:17, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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Maura Bosch
I came across your article on Maura Bosch in the course of looking at wp:Pennsylvania articles without class or importance. I added several templates to the talk page, including a Biography I took from Edward T. Cone. Your article on Bosch is well done, and I see that you have done many more articles on composers.

I am writing to you now to suggest that you add the appropriate templates to the talk pages as you create new articles. Perhaps the class will be stub, to be changed as the article is expanded by other editors. I have the unassessed articles for Pennsylvania below 700, but the number sometimes goes up rather than down as new templates are added without assessments.

Keep up the good work. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Celeste de Longpré Heckscher
I added a PERSONDATA template to Celeste de Longpré Heckscher, but I am uncertain about her name, especially the "de Longpré" part of it. Please take a look, and change it if needed. The sort order could be involved, but I would expect "Heckscher" to be the definitive surname. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:13, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you've listed it correctly. I did change the Short Description to "Heckscher", too, as her scores seem to be published under that name rather than Massey. Thanks for your interest in the article!Pkeets (talk) 15:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of No Plan B (band)


A tag has been placed on No Plan B (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you.  Nik the  stoned  10:47, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Pkeets. You have new messages at Nikthestoned's talk page. --13:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Mark Hepburn (disambiguation)
Hello, just to let you know that this doesn't seem to meet WP:TWODABS guindelines and has been nominated for deletion using Template:db-disambig. I've added a hatnote, so the karetka will still be easy to find. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:37, 16 September 2011 (UTC)