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Thanks for catching my typo on list of stars in Scorpius. StringTheory11 (t • c) 01:17, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Nuclear physics
I noticed your creation of the proton-neutron ratio article. First, the hyphen in its title irritates me: it should bear either en-dash (proton–neutron ratio) or colon (proton:neutron ratio), although I am not sure that the latter would be punctuationally acceptable.

Second, could you review the Nuclear physics navbox? Your article may deserve inclusion into its “Nuclear model and stability” section, but I am more interested in a feedback about [ my recent restructuring of it]. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:54, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

forest planet
Forest planet is a category or type of hypothetical planet with surface covering of larger plant life in at least a majority percentage, or a surface close to or entirely of forests. The Earth, though covered with some forests, is not considered a forest planet since it is covered by forest by only some 9.4% of its surface (or 30% of total land area); also because the Earth is covered mostly, 70.9% with oceans. Forests function as habitats for organisms, hydrologic flow modulators, and soil conservers, constituting one of the most important aspects of a planet's biosphere. Since the first microlensing detected the signature of what may be far away planets, it follows categorically that Forest Planets are as likely candidates for detection orbiting other stars as super-Earths and other | Earth-like terrestrial planets, and "almost surely" by the same mathematical principle.

Planetary Characteristics
There are limitations to what parameter ranges such planet will exist, survive, and thrive. The main climate type of the planet will be conducive to the forest plant life, and abundant (local version of) precipitation would be necessary, i.e. rain.

Physical Characteristics
Such a planet would require a minimum amount of water or equivalent major life component. Hydrospheric (or equivalent) percentages would fall between 29.10% minimum and a 71.90% maximum.

Orbit Characteristics
The orbit of such a planet can not take it too close (periastron) to its star or the plant life would burn. The orbit of such a planet can not take it too far (apoastron) from its star or the plant life would freeze. Although current understanding of forest planet life is that it can hibernate for periods of time, long lasting winters would have a petrification effect that would lead to severe erosion of biomatter and cause death.

Appearance of planet from space
Depending on the orbit characteristics of the planet, there will be seasons if the axial tilt is greater than nil. And even if the axial tilt is nil there may be sufficient eccentricity to the orbit to cause a periastron/apoastron season cycle.

Such planets may appear green if forest is made mainly of Earth-compatible trees. This type of planet may also appear in other colors such as red if some forest is made not only of trees, for example tree size mushrooms. If the forest planet is made of trees, the planets may appear green only for part of its year. When it is autumn, the color of planet changes to autumn colors such as yellow, orange, red and brown, because tree leaves change to these colors like it does on Earth. When it is winter, most trees lost all the leaves and planet may appear brown by the presence of wood. It may also appear white in some spots because of its snow on its planet's surface. When spring comes, the planet color will turn back green as leaves in the most trees grow. By summer, the planet will be greenest. In contrast, though, mushrooms don't change colors throughout a seasonal year.

Detection and Classification
Another complicating factor in the search of criteria is that only a tiny portion of a planet needs to be habitable to support some "Forest" life. Astrobiologists often concern themselves with "microenvironments" noting that "we lack a fundamental understanding of how evolutionary forces, such as mutation, selection, and genetic drift, operate in microorganisms that act on and respond to changing microenvironments."

More mainstream researchers have arrived at related conclusions, however, without necessarily accepting the teleology implied by Lovelock. David Grinspoon has suggested a "Living Worlds hypothesis" in which our understanding of what constitutes a life-bearing planet. Planets that are geologically and meteorologically alive are much more likely to be biologically alive as well and "a planet and its life will co-evolve."

Further Study
So far forest planets have been found to occur mainly in science fiction, such as Star Wars and Star Trek.


 * Terraforming of Venus - future Forest Planets
 * Terraforming of Mars - future Forest Planets
 * Chicken or the egg - the teleology of planets

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Re: Barren planet
See "Home Soil" for ethical issues with terraforming barren planets in science fiction. Viriditas (talk) 00:31, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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I had a look at your wiki for predicted elements
Just a note that elements 165 and 166 (your pasturium and hubbium?) make +3 and +4 states (and perhaps more?) with 7d, not 8p1/2. Due to relativistic effects 8p1/2 is buried together with 8s by this point! Thus 172 shouldn't be able to make +10.

(If you love high oxidation states, you can go crazy with them in the superactinides. Pyykkö predicted that element 148 should be able to go up to the +12 state.)

On the superactinides: the region around 128 should be mostly tetravalent in simple compounds (halides, oxides blah blah blah) but should not need much convincing to go up to insanely high values like +10 or even perhaps +12. By 132 though the craziness will have ceased and anything beyond +6 should be very difficult. 140 and its region should have trouble going past +3 and +4, and 154 should be extremely noble and need considerable persuasion to go even to +2. The superactinide contraction should be around 20 pm per element.

On beyond 172: These should be "superactinides Mk. 2" with generally lower oxidation states. For example 184 should be mostly +4 in aqueous solutions and +5 and +6 in solids. Anything beyond +6 is very unrealistic, as the 6g shell is so buried that ionizing its electrons also ionizes 9s and 9p1/2! I can't tell you where this ends unfortunately, as nobody bothered to predict it. :-(

On melting points, boiling points, and colours: I honestly dunno. Is there some way to predict melting and boiling points from properties we do know? (Or we can extrapolate them and take into account the additional "g-block" insertion...) Double sharp (talk) 15:30, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Good to learn that elements 165 and 166 share electrons with 7d, not 8s and 8p$1/2$ because they are buried, so pasturium can go up to +5 and hubbium to +6, you agree. This is unlike two above elements, which share 7s and 7p$1/2$. I knew that for superactinides, the highest oxidation states occur around element 128, due to their low ionization energies. Then ionization energies would slowly get higher with increasing Z until element 154, which I know is the most noble metal on the periodic table. I predicted melting and boiling points based on electron configurations or elements above it. I also well aware of closed shell affecting phase transition points. For amperium (element 158), for example, I have melting and boiling points lot lower than tungsten and seaborgium above it, due to its closed 7d$3/2$ orbital. For faradium (element 148), due to its interplay between closed 6f$5/2$ and half-filled 7d$3/2$, I have melting point about the same as lead (over 600 K) but its boiling point is over 5500 K. I know relativistic effects affect energy exchange of electrons between orbitals, which in turn affect colors. Well, look at the famous case of gold, it is uniquely yellow, and it is prelude to greater variety of colors for metals with higher atomic numbers. For example, keplerium (element 163, two rows below gold), can sometimes be called "red gold" because the metal is orange (red + gold = orange) due to same reason why gold is yellow. Metals in periods 8 and 9 can be blue (ex: kelvinium (element 157)), lime green (ex: vanthoffium (element 155)), teal (ex: faradium), red (ex: amperium), apricot (ex: lavoisium (element 121)), or other colors. That's what I'm going to plan on doing for elements beyond 172, but instead of creating individual articles about elements beyond 172, I'll create an article called transramsium element, and I'll include info about element 184.


 * Maybe you forgot to mention nuclear stabilities. The trends of generally decreasing maximum half-lives for increasing atomic numbers is believed to be close to correct, and values are estimated. Elements 122, 124 and 126 have max half-lives of billions of years, with a 117 billion year half-life for 126. After this element, max half-lives generally decrease with increasing atomic numbers. I predict that maximum half-life for element 137 (feynmanium) has a half-life of only 1 millisecond. I predict there will be increase in max half-lives from element 158-164. The element with shortest maximum half-life on the 172-element periodic table is element 171 (bunsenium) with half-life of just 1.4 nanoseconds, and the element after that has a max half-life of 162 nanoseconds. The lightest 14 elements beyond 118 undergo mainly alpha decay, and then undergo cluster decay then spontaneous fission for odd-numbered lighter elements, followed by even-numbered heavier elements.


 * I will update individual element articles in about two months, as well as datas on table pages, especially some oxidation states, plus their atomic masses and their derivatives. I now think that atomic masses were overestimated you see. For nowadays, I'm in progress using Microsoft Word, and in November I will copypaste to articles. Also I'll create new articles, including transramsium element mentioned, transmoscovium element, series of elements, and up to couple others. Planet  Star  22:45, 17 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Yup, islands of stability around 122 and 164, with off-shoots at 114, 126, and 184.
 * Yeah, the atomic masses are really heavy. Fricke's predictions seem closer (504 for element 172).
 * I personally predicted that (using your names for now) pasturium(I) should behave like potassium or silver, pasturium(III) like thallium(III), and pasturium(V) like your average transition metal. (Hubbium(II) like calcium, hubbium(IV) like tin(IV) or lead(IV), hubbium(VI) like your average transition metal.) What do you think? (I could very well be wrong.) Double sharp (talk) 08:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Planet  Star  20:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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Undiscussed move
Although I'm pleased to have found out that you created a talk page attributing the text, you still didn't discuss this move so I've reverted it. Start a discussion and get consensus - which will probably take a couple of weeks given the holiday period. Dougweller (talk) 09:49, 24 December 2013 (UTC)