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Zuni Kachinas
Hi Plasiloo, I noticed your recent work on the Kachina article (thanks a lot, that article has been a mess for a while)! I hope you don't mind that I fixed some grammar and a citation that ended up on the wrong line, I had to put back in the cited information that had been there previously because it is cited.

Would you be able to provide citations for the information you added? This pages is sorely in need of some proper sources, and you seem to have an understanding of the subject matter. I don't want to remove any information you've added, but we really need some reliable sources to back the text up.  Wasechun tashunka HOWLTRACK 17:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I did put my work through a grammar check. As for the Shalako Ceremony, that is based on the Zuni tribal stats. You have many things wrong about the Hopi Kachinas. Also I don't understand why your putting, "The Hopis have built their cult into a more elaborate ritual, and seem to have a greater sense of drama and artistry than the Zunis"? What evidences do you have of that or the sources? You are very Hopi biased. I know both cultures really well and there is no need to compare. Each of them have differences. Plasiloo (talk) 18:22, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi again, I actually didn't write the text on that article, I simply tidied it up the other day. The only reason I put that sentence back in is that it was added by someone else with a citation, so unless there is a very good reason to remove it (eg., a counter citation which proves it's false) then we can't take it out. I don't doubt for one second your knowledge of kachina and kachina ceremonies (and I'm certainly not Hopi-biased, if anything I'm Navajo-biased), however, one of the most important rules on Wikipedia is, when you say something, back it up with a citation! So, if you have stats proving that the Shalako Ceremony is the most popular, it would be really helpful if you could put a citation in for it, too! That way, readers can see it is fact without having to take your word for it. Have a good day,  Wasechun tashunka HOWLTRACK 19:43, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Well that's what Wikipedia basically is to begin with. I don't understand why you would put anything about the Kachinas if your Navajo. That's like the my being Pueblo and writing about Navajo ceremonies. In addition, I did consent with the Zuni Pueblo and I was told to not put any stats about the Shalako, so I did take that out. As for that ridiculous comparison of Zuni and Hopi Kachinas, that is absurd. The both share Kachinas and Zuni did influence the Shalako and other dances to the Hopi. Overall, I will challenge that. Best.