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While your series of articles on "Country X-Country Y" relations fill a useful niche in the project, would you mind not creating them until you have some content? At the moment many of them simply read "Country X-Country Y relations are relations between country X and country Y"; not very useful or informative. Ironholds (talk) 13:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

People's Republic of China–Hungarian relations
Sorry that I used this big template in your User talk wall.

Can you hel me in this article? : People's Republic of China–Hungarian relations ? Thanks a lot ! --Tamás Kádár (talk) 18:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks your help! Where can I find the maps which was used by you People's Republic of China–Hungarian relations ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:China_Hungary_Locator.png ?

I would like to use pictures : for this articles:

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Italy–Switzerland relations
In Italy–Switzerland relations you wrote:


 * Both countries are full members of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, of the European Union and of NATO.

This is clearly wrong, Switzerland is not a member of the EU, and certainly not of NATO. I removed the phrase, be more careful in the future about this kind of mistakes.--Piccolo Modificatore Laborioso (talk) 12:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI notice
FYI, there is a discussion about your editing at WP:ANI. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

New articles
Hey, I noticed your article creating urge! However, I'm not sure the notability of these are really that big. Therefore, I'm going to nominate most of them for ANI. Cheers.  Im per a t § r (Talk)  18:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, can you halt for a moment in creating all those international relationship articles? There's a discussion at WP:ANI. Cheers.  Im per a t § r (Talk)  18:30, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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Please stop creating random country-international relations articles.
You have been warned about this before. Several users have noted that these articles, which stand no chance of being expanded to anything more than bare stubs, are probably not helpful to have at Wikipedia. To continue to create them over the objections of these many editors seems disruptive. Please see WP:ANI for a new discussion relating to your behavior. Be aware that this is the second such discussion. If you persist in creating these articles without the support or consensus of other editors, you may be blocked for being disruptive. --Jayron32. talk . contribs 19:30, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Stemming from the discussion at ANI, I have proposed a number of the articles you created for deletion. See the few messages above for the relevant information, as its the same for each one.  Grsz 11  22:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You have been blocked for 72 hours, for continuing the same type of editing that led to blocks under your other account Groubani. I have also blocked Groubani indefinitely as it is being used in violation of our sockpuppetry policy. If you wish to edit from Groubani, I will unblock that account and block this account indefinitely instead. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 22:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I saw that he was creating some articles, some of which looked good, so I had created a few international relations stubs myself. I did not know that has been warned before and I will no longer create stubs if the said entries are systematically refused/deleted from Wikipedia. I am a conservationist however and I would probably not mind keeping them. ADM (talk) 23:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In general these articles aren't systematically deleted. It has been established in deletion discussions that many (maybe not all) are notable. See Articles for deletion/Argentina–Singapore relations.
 * That said, Plumoyr, you must do a better job of citing your sources for your articles, so the silly discussions about them needing deletion will go away. Wily D 00:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As already aluded to, and to respond to ADM's concerns, the issue is not in the creation of a international relations articles, where there are references to support a substantive article. If country A and country B have signed several bilateral treaties, been party to bilateral trade talks, have reports of working together on international issues, held summits together, then by all means, create the article.  However, creating articles on every possible combination of two countries, without regard for actually researching or adding any substantive information to those articles, merely to have the complete set of every possible permutation of two countries, well that is not helpful.  Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.  Simply creating articles, because one can, without regard for actually having substantive, referenced information to fill that article with is the definition of indiscriminate.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  01:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Few if any of the articles created have been shown to be non-notable. Many have been shown to be notable.  And I see no allegations that any of the information is unverfiable.  There simply isn't a problem here, and I'm puzzled at the number of editors who seem interested in persecuting Plumoyr. Wily D  01:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, its not about the individual articles themselves. Finding one or two or five that may or may not have reliable references is moot.  Its the action of creating a plethora of articles indiscriminately, that is without regard for whether or not substantive information exists in the real world to add to the article.  The proper method of creating articles is 1) find references 2) create article with those references.  This method seems to be 1) pick 2 random countries 2) create an article about their relations 3) rinse and repeat.  So far no evidence has been presented that there is any intent on expanding these articles, or indeed whether or not it may actually be possible to ever expand these articles, and the entire enterprise seems to be about saying I can do this because I feel like it and you cannot stop me.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  02:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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Diplomacy
In your series or articles on diplomacy, are the two countries always in alphabetical order? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 09:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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good work
Good work or creation of some of the international relations articles. While most are getting deleted, that is only because a group of deletionists band together to destroy stuff. Fight the machine! 65.121.141.34 (talk) 18:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

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Nomination of Czech Republic–Libya relations for deletion
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File:Denmark Tunisia Locator.png listed for deletion
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File:Georgia Spain Locator.png listed for discussion
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Ways to improve Italy–Netherlands relations
Hello, Plumoyr,

Thank you for creating Italy–Netherlands relations.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

"Hi, this article needs some references and would benefit from an expansion - I also wonder why it mentions the Italian consulate in Maracaibo, a city in Venezuela (is it because of the proximity to the Dutch Caribbean? Whatever the reason, it should be explained)"

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Kingsif (talk) 19:46, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Italy–Montenegro relations
Hello, Plumoyr

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I wanted to let you know, however, that I've proposed an article that you started, Italy–Montenegro relations, for deletion because it meets one or more of our deletion criteria, and I don't think that it is suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. The particular issue can be found in the notice that is now visible at the top of the article.

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Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Italy–Montenegro relations for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Italy–Montenegro relations is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Italy–Montenegro relations until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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