User talk:Pmoseneca

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November 2009
Please do not add content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to Mehdi Mollahasani. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 03:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

a request
You removed material from the article on Linda Frum, asserting the nearby references didn't substantiate it.

One example - you removed the assertion that she was a campaign chair for the United Jewish Appeal.

Okay, so how hard was it to do a web search to refute or confirm whether she held that position? It took me about 20 seconds to confirm that. 

I suggest to you the best way to improve a wikipedia article is to confine yourself to only editing in a cooperative way, and to forgo adversarial editing.

Once you remove material like that, and some other good faith contributor comes across a reference that substantiates her chairmanship, they have to duplicate the work of the person who first added the assertion. By removing that material you are making extra work for everybody.

When should we remove what we think are undocumented assertions from articles? I dunno. Obvious instances of libel/slander -- which this wasn't. Obvious instances of assertions that seem incredible -- like an assertion she was campaign chair for the Canadian Nazi party, or buddhists for nudism, or the flat Earth society? I'd remove those too, as likely drive-by vandalism. But Frum agreeing to raise fund like this? Highly credible, even if it isn't explicitly referenced.

We don't footnote everything. We don't footnote "The sky is blue".

Please remember, every one of us is subject to moments of normal human fallibility. Did it occur to you that one or more of the references did support that assertion, and you had a moment of normal human fallibility, and didn't recognize it said so?

If you want to improve the Linda Frum article, and you come across an assertion you really think needs a citation, why not spend enough time to do your own web search, and, if it is easy to provide the reference, provide the reference yourself. If you think you are too important to do that kind of work, we have tags contributors can place after assertions they think need a citation.

But simply removing non-controversial assertions, because they don't seem to be referenced? Please, in the interests of actually improving the article, don't do that.

Could you go back to the Linda Frum article, and revert all the excisions you made because you didn't recognize a supporting reference, and either find a reference, or use a tag requesting other contributors look for a supporting reference?

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 20:51, 12 September 2018 (UTC)