User talk:PodcastingKat1990

June 2019
There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, If you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

If you intend to make useful contributions about some topic other than your business or organisation, you may request an unblock. To do so, post the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:CentralAuth to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy. Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In that reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block. To do so, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the text at the bottom of your talk page, replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason for thinking that the block was an error, and publish the page. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:36, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I would like to confirm the following in order to reinstate my account: Message text. WonderyMedia (talk) 16:50, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I confirm that this account will only be used by myself.
 * I agree to avoid creating or directly editing articles related to my organization, Wondery.
 * I agree to abide by the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use and disclose any paid relationship in accordance with the paid contributor policy.
 * I will only edit news lated to the larger podcasting space. Such as new technology updates, new show releases, other media releases that are concise and easy to understand. I have a strong interest in editing Wikipedia beyond Wondery.
 * Since podcasting is within your conflict of interest as it's your field, it's going to be difficult for you to directly edit about any aspect of podcasting. (per WP:SIMPLECOI; "Do not edit articles about yourself, your family or friends, your organization, your clients, or your competitors") Are there any subjects unrelated to podcasting that you want to edit about?  331dot (talk) 19:50, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I ask because if you want to be a general contributor and edit about other subjects, you could then make edit requests for podcasting-related subjects. If you are only here to edit about podcasting, I'm not sure an admin would be willing to unblock you(though you are free to make a new unblock request that will be reviewed by someone else). 331dot (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate the information. WonderyMedia (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The user name problem has been dealt with, and you have undertaken to edit in conformity with the guidelines on conflict of interest and the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use. As far as I am concerned that means that both of the issues that were given as reasons for the block have been dealt with, and there is no good reason not to unblock your account (on the understanding, of course, that if you don't stick to what you have said then you can be blocked again, but there is no reason to assume that will happen, and every reason to assume it won't). However, I am generally much more willing to unblock than most administrators, and it would not be a good idea for me to unilaterally take action when I know that there may be a strong consensus against me. I would therefore be grateful if, the blocking administrator, would comment on this request. Comments from any other administrators would also be welcome. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I would feel better about unblocking if this user agreed to not edit about podcasting in general, since that is their field. However, if unblocking is okay with the blocking admin, it's okay with me. 331dot (talk) 20:20, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping . I must concur with, I'd rather them not edit in their COI area. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:56, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, but in that case I have two questions. (1) If you intended that the editor should remain blocked unless they wouldn't edit on the whole topic of podcasts, then why didn't you say that in the block notice? You told the editor that the block was about use of the account for advertising or promotion, the username policy, and intention to edit about some topic other than "your business or organisation". When the editor complies with every one of the requirements that you have specified you move the goal posts by introducing another requirement. Do you think it fair to encourage a new editor to believe that they will be allowed to edit if they comply with a particular set of requirements, and when they do so tell them that they still can't? Would it not have been more helpful to have given a block notice which accurately reflected what you really required? (2) The reasons you gave for blocking are fully supported by the policies and guidelines on advertising, user names, and conflict of interest. Can you point to a policy or guideline which justifies keeping an editor blocked on the basis that he or she intends to edit in the general topic area in which he or she has professional experience, but not about his or her business? If you can then there's a hell of a large number of regular editors who need to be blocked, including quite a number of administrators. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The company that this user's original username is, WonderyMedia, is a podcasting company; it's their field and they indicate they will still edit about it, so the goalposts have not been moved as they haven't yet agreed to not edit about their business. 331dot (talk) 11:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * What? How is "I agree to avoid creating or directly editing articles related to my organization, Wondery" not agreeing to not edit about their business? However, your post did serve a useful purpose: it led me to check the exact wording of the unblock request, and I realised that it says "I will not be making any edits to any pages in the podcasting space", which as far as I can see seems to mean complying with your "if this user agreed to not edit about podcasting in general" and 's '"I'd rather them not edit in their COI area". So that seems to be it: the editor has complied not only with the conditions that were set when the block was imposed, but also with the new condition that has been imposed since, and so must be unblocked. (And yes, not making any edits on anything to do with podcasting certainly is a new condition, different from the more limited restriction of not editing about the editor's own business.) JamesBWatson (talk) 14:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:SIMPLECOI states "Do not edit articles about yourself, your family or friends, your organization, your clients, or your competitors." In this case, as they are in the podcasting business, most podcasts, especially those produced by the company's direct competitors, would be within their conflict of interest. It isn't "my condition", but something I've seen applied to many users and by people other than myself as an interpretation of a conflict of interest. However, I see no need for a big discussion here; I will not stand in the way of an unblock if you are satisfied. I think I was a little uncertain as to their statement about what they would edit, as it seemed to me that would still include podcasts, but I am probably mistaken there. Thanks. 331dot (talk) 14:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I also didn't mean for this to turn into a large discussion., I understand your point here and I agreed with 331dot on the basis of WP:SIMPLECOI and past experience with COI editors. I probably should've replied with a longer explanation but if NPOV is one of our five pillars, I was worried about how this editor would navigate that in their COI area. I do see that gave them advice above about edit requests which they said to have understood and appreciated. If you want to apply AGF and unblock that isn't a problem then.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:57, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

globally renamed WonderyMedia to PodcastingKat1990
I globally renamed WonderyMedia to PodcastingKat1990. Dlohcierekim (talk) 11:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)