User talk:Poeticbent/Archive 16

German repressions against Poles who helped Jews
New article by a new user you'll probably enjoy looking through. Also an orphan, I am sure you'll know many places where it can be linked from. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:24, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, User:Piotrus. Perhaps User:Bonus626 would want to consider becoming a member of WikiProject Intertranswiki/Polish by adding his name there due to his ongoing interest in WP:MACHINETRANSLATION by using Google Translate, including previously created: 'W' Hour, Battalion ‘Bolt’, The barricade on Jerusalem Avenue in Warsaw, and... Antonina Żabińska (22 February 2018 without improving the Jan and Antonina Żabiński article which I have doubled in size 3 weeks earlier). Antonina is not even i-linked from her husband's article, as I have just learned for the first time.  Poeticbent  talk  18:40, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Your revert of edits on Antisemitism in Ukraine
Hi, what was your logic behind reverting all edits? Did you look at the talk page, as to why I renamed relevant section titles?--Piznajko (talk) 20:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Zofia Posmysz
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you (!),, for the opportunity to work together with you on a front page lead.  Poeticbent  talk 08:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * My pleasure! - Here are some more red links to fill ;) - Real life calls me for most of the day, - please watch! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Looking for something else, YouTube recommended this: ! Do you think we should add it to her article? She is shown in interview a few times, unfortunately translated, with her voice very soft. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:40, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks User:Gerda Arendt for this precious find.  Poeticbent  talk 22:11, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
 * music for today - the day I saw the opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

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Poland article
Hi, I'm just asking if the image of Narcyza Żmichowska is necessary in the Poland article. I noticed that you added it. The "law" section of the article is a bit overflowing and I don't see why she needs to be there. She isn't significant at all and we already have a historical reference in the section with the Constitution of 3 May. Best Regards, Oliszydlowski, 02:35, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of This Government in the Murder of the Jews
Inspired by the other article, I wrote this short entry. In few days I may nominate it for DYK, but perhaps you'd like to take a look first? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Great story. Thanks for letting me know.  Poeticbent  talk 14:27, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

SPI
Please note you've been reported in Sockpuppet investigations/GizzyCatBella. My forthright apologies if I'm mistaken.Icewhiz (talk) 05:23, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Note
--Neil N  talk to me 19:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Portals
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AFD
See Articles for deletion/Anna Poray.Icewhiz (talk) 12:56, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for The Black Book of Polish Jewry
— Maile (talk) 00:42, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Another great Polish woman
Can you use this obituary for her article? - She was the first violinist I heard in concert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . The Wanda Wiłkomirska article was created 14 October 2008. Another fascinating life story. Good source. I promise to look into it.  Poeticbent  talk  13:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It would be great if you could do it soon, because a mentioning in Recent deaths should be somewhat recent. - I just had a translation program giving me the RP (what's that?) obituary, + a shorter one, - please check, funny English ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Almost accepted for ITN, but always room for improvements! - Precious 6 years, for a nice coincidence. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I was wrong, sadly the time passed for ITN, and it was closed without appearance. I'll write one or more DYK mentioning her, - GA would be another option. What do you think of improving The Passenger (opera). It's after the novel after all (opera says novella), - the audio play has only two characters, Lisa and her husband. We should at least fix that, but there's room for more. I mentioned the opera in a DYK for the singer of Lisa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you write a stub about Jadwiga Szamotulska . I see nothing in English, but YouTube. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅.  Poeticbent  talk  18:37, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That's great! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:38, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Today dyk ... that Katharina Magiera, a member of the Frankfurt Opera, has appeared as Lisa, a former SS officer in Auschwitz, in Weinberg's opera The Passenger? (23 May) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Jadwiga Szamotulska
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Nomination of Disappearance of Debbie Blair for deletion
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== MARK PAUL

There's a "survey" going on under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rescue_of_Jews_by_Poles_during_the_Holocaust aimed at axing all references to Mark Paul's work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatzref (talk • contribs) 15:38, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jadwiga Szamotulska
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Proposed deletion of Irene Tomaszewski


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 * would not pass GNG or AUTHOR even if sourced per my BEFORE

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Zofia Kilanowicz
Could you help me by translating Zofia Kilanowicz? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Unfair topic ban
I find the topic ban you were given ("the history of Poland during World War II, including the Holocaust in Poland") highly unfair, considering you are Wikipedia's most prolific content creator in this area, with dozens of DYKs, several GAs, and so on. Granted, there were some issues of civility and revert warring, but I personally feel that if the AE was to be fair, they should've given you at most some sort of 1RR restriction in this topic area, and a warning to avoid using self-published sources, not a crippling ban that prevents you from contributing to the area you've been shown to be Wikipedia's most active content creator. This is ridiculous. I think you should appeal this. Since it seems that the administrator handing the decision was concerned by WP:NPA related to User:Icewhiz, I'd like to ask Icewhiz what are his thoughts on restructuring the current topic ban, which, I repeat, unfairly prevents you from contributing articles content on WWII Polish-Jewish relations. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:24, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * (watching:) I agree, but please remember that WP:AE and fair don't go together. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That's like an understatement of the year.Volunteer Marek (talk) 18:00, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Responding to ping. I disagree with much of the above, however I do not bear grudges. If there were a well crafted request/appeal (recognizing at least some of the issues) posted - with a narrower focus on Polish-Jewish issues (as opposed to the wider WW2 in Poland, as issues have been limited, in my mind, to particular aspects within Jewish-Polish relations) or some effective editing sanction - I would be willing to state my support (not sure that this would amount to much - but would be willing to do so if you think this would be of use), and state my recognition that while there have been some issues, there has also been significant content generated without issue in the ww2 and Holocaust topic areas. If you feel discussion should be done in private (I will note that I am not sure WP:BANX would exempt such a pre-discussion) - I will respond to email.Icewhiz (talk) 13:00, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Looking at PB's user page, it seems that he written dozens of uncontroversial topics on Polish-Jewish aspects, often in WWII context, so I am unsure what you disagree with, exactly? I think a 1RR restriction in this topic arena would send him the right message - that he should continue writing new content in this area, rather then engage in revert wars (a good advice for everyone, anytime). I understand he was a bit too intense, to say the least, in trying to use and keep some sources that others had smaller or bigger issues with (self-published, reliability), which led to the warring and NPAs which led to the current topic ban (correct me if this is an unfair summary). Again, a 1RR restriction should be sufficient to ensure he will be directed towards the constructive editing. My main point is that we will all benefit if PB write's more new articles like, let's say, an 18th entry on his so far 17-entry series on the WWII Jewish ghettos in Poland. Or would you say that his ghetto articles (to look at a specific topic) are problematic and we are better of with him not continuing it? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  03:41, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Piotrus - while not endorsing your stmt, I did say I was willing to post my support for a more limited editing sanction and do recognize significant content has been generated without issues. An example of an article with issues would've been Stawiski.Icewhiz (talk) 05:08, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Which Poeticbent has not edited since April 21, 2016‎, so I am not sure how this particular article is relevant...? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  05:42, 2 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree that your TBan is very unfair, but remember the universal law of Wikipedia:  AE != justice . Wikipedia is a blend of an Ochlocracy and Technocracy, not a democracy. If you appeal your TBan anytime, please ping me. <b style="color:#060">L293D</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b> • <b style="color:#000">✎</b>) 18:21, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ditto. Nihil novi (talk) 08:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I apologize for not noticing your topic ban sooner. It makes no sense, and yet it makes perfect sense, that one of the only administrative actions in the topic area was brought against one of its coolest heads and most prolific content creators. (The less I say about the administrator who banned you, the better. Suffice it to say, he has acknowledged that he doesn't read much.) As a friend who had kidney stones once told me, this too will pass. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 09:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Same. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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Topic ban is OVER
Hey Poeticbent. I know you were unhappy with the result of that AE result, but on the bright side, it's over, and Wikipedia still would very much like to have more of the contributions that you've been providing. Think about it, please. Take care, Drmies (talk) 17:21, 21 December 2018 (UTC)