User talk:Pokerdance/Archive 1

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About Another Cinderella Story. I agree, but ...
It's obvious to me that such plot summaries are WP:OR, but there isn't a strong consensus for that. Probably better to stick with the argument that the current one-paragraph summary tells the reader everything necessary to permit understanding of the real-world information in the article.&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd leave it, but if it comes back, I wouldn't try upgrading to uw-nor2.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Miley (given name)
Your reason for removing the photo was not sufficient. The name has become popular due to the singer, who is a representative of the name. Please do not remove it again. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 00:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Edits
Will you stop changing my edits, I know your stalking my contributions. Thats how you get around and change other people's edits but you think your in control of me so you change every edit I make. And you can get blocked for doing that so many times. And one more thing why change the brackets on the song I think they looked perfectly fine how the genres were stacked up like that but you have to change my edits. All I am saying is will you talk on the talk page before making the edits please. --Sprite7868 (talk) 01.22, 19 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.167.132 (talk)

Rollback
I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see New admin school/Rollback and Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 22:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:Gaga
Hey thanks for wishing! Your edits are really good and if I reverted any good faith ones, I apol;ogize, must be a mistake at my part. And congrats on getting the rollback feature!! --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 03:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk to Charmed36, don't edit war
There's probably a version in-between those two versions of The Fame that will make you both happy. Charmed36's reversion is certainly not vandalism, and he should not have gotten a vandalism warning. Both of you need to stop reverting and start talking. Remember: four reverts in 24 hours will certainly get you blocked (see WP:3RR), and a long, slow edit-war probably will too.&mdash;Kww(talk) 03:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * He likes his version better than yours. That's a disagreement, not vandalism. His has citations, yours has better references to the relevant main articles and a better structure. There's a happy medium there somewhere if you work towards it.&mdash;Kww(talk) 03:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Gaga GAN
Please donot re nominate the article. It already failed one GAN and there are tons of issues in the article still. Criteria#5 is totally disrupted as too much of edit war going on and poor structure. Also, to be very frank, you hardly worked anything on the article. Its User:Realist2's work. Donot take credit for it. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 03:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You are right about anybody nominating it. But when somebody has not worked on it, it just goes to show your conscience. About the image and single section, your reasoning is poor and unacceptable. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And removing other users explanation is considered bad faith also. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Report me if you like, I really donot care. But that doesnot change the fact that you ignore to understand policies regarding WP:NFCC and fail to understand WP:GAC. Instead of understanding them, you are vehemently removing content from articles and edit warring while misusing features allocated to you. I just explained all these two sections up, but you removed them. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:44, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Lets not get cranky and discuss things at the talk page which you should have done before removing such huge content. Even you donot own the article hence every user including Charmed36 has right to oppose your edit. So I have reverted to the original content before your or Charmed36's edits were made. I believe both of you come at teh talk page and all of us lets discuss. I'll leave the message at his talk page also. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:50, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:The Fame US Cover.jpg
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Please Understand
Im not writing good at writing articles, so I copied part of yours I put something on my page the other day telling you about what I did to my userpage but, then I took it off and said I put most everything into my own words. And by the way I am actually 13 years old thats why when I saw your page. I didnt know how to write a good decription so I borrowed yours. And what are you gonna do about it block me see if I care. At least I ant stuck here everyday of my life of every hour of the day updating pages I actually got a life so if you block me here you cant block me from my life. --Sprite7868 ( talk 2 ) 03:49, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

You know what some of that I said was pretty reasonable and good job for being in high school that still does not prove your worth anything and your calling me immature I was actually being a little bit reasonable you were being all stuck up on my page. At first I thought we were gonna be friend's like wiki friends but I cant trust someone like you to be my wiki friend. And for your information I been here for one year longer than you and no alot more than you do (except writing skills). This all I got to say your just bringing alot on yourself for writing on my page like that. Dont write on my page unless you got something good/nice (mature) to say. Oh yeah I'm gonna be 14 this summer anyways. so I will be your age is thyat what your calling immature. --Sprite7868 ( talk 2 ) 03:49, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Just Dance
That's okay, I know it was just a misunderstanding and that you didn't mean to regard my edits as vandalism. :) Happy editing! Funk Junkie (talk) 04:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Genre warrior
I believe talk it out with User:Eyeliners and Cigarettes because this reverting will continue. Lets see what is the user's theory regarding this and why is he/she intending to use these genres. Leave a message to the user's talk page. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 08:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats why I believe, begin a section in the talkpage so that other users will give their input. Its not a controversial change, just a matter of difference of opinion. However, you revert he revert, this will ultimately make the article unstable, so its better we approach in that way. Cheers! --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 08:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Demi Lovato
Demi Lovato was born in Albuquerque, New Mexico not Dallas, Texas. She was raised in Dallas. She said it here in her live chat. FF to the 4:00 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfLqXDz95CU —Preceding unsigned comment added by THAOlula (talk • contribs) 21:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Lady Gaga

 * Hey, I should have discussed my changes on a talk page
 * for the Lady Gaga article, I apologize.


 * General: I have searched the history, to find there were
 * references for the article's genre/s, as well as other
 * categorie/s in the informnation box - these were removed.
 * It would be best if users do not remove references,
 * so confusion like this could not take place.


 * Genre/s: I believe the best way to deal with this situation
 * is to provide reliable third party references for the
 * genres.


 * Occupation/s: You type that Disc Jockey and Go-Go dancer
 * as failing WP:NOTE, could you please specify which point/s,
 * the said occupation/s (Disc Jockey and Go-Go dancer) fail.


 * Eyeliner and Cigarettes(User/Talk/Sign)  05:06, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

jonas Brothers Acting
honor Society shoudnt be in acting its a record label in acting im deleting it from itKing007ofrock (talk) 20:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)King007ofrock

Advice
Go to WP:RFPP and get your user page semi-protected. That'll take care of half the problem. As for your talk page, it's par for the course. I don't even bother to revert crap like that anymore. Warn them, report them at WP:AIV if they hit final warning, but don't let it get to you.&mdash;Kww(talk) 03:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I semi'd your userpage indefinitely, removed a personal attack made by King007, blocked King for a week, and blocked all the IPs that hit your userpage and user talk page within the last week. Happy editing,  Enigma msg  14:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Selena Gomez
You should discuss it, your edits aren't improving the page, you're just adding whole chunks of pointless information like (including the show's theme song, Everything Is Not What it Seems). You're also adding uncited text and adding every single TV and film role in the lead which is wrong considering the lead isn't for her minor guest appearances, unsuccessful soundtrack duets considering Gomez's career is just starting. She's only 17 years old for God's sake. She is best known for Wizards of Waverly Place, that put her on the map. Her Barney appearance was short, don't look at the IMDB episodes, it's all user submitted and wrong. She appeared in a couple of episodes in Barney and didn't play a large part in the series, why have it in the lead? The lead is for all of the notable and career milestones, Wizards is a career milestone, her TV movie roles aren't, in the new lead it says that she's also well known for appearing in teen TV movies such as Princess Protection Program, why have every single TV movie role she's had in the lead? notable or not, it doesn't matter because Gomez is a rising star. Another Cinderella Story, the Wizards TV movie and Princess Protection Program are all good movies but are they major career milestones that transitioned Gomez from a children actress to a adult actress? NO, they are teen movies that are no where near becoming milestones for her career, she isn't known in the Philippines for appearing in Another Cinderella Story, she isn't known in Armenia for appearing in Princess Protection Program, she is known for Wizards. Another thing is that Gomez has said many times that Another Cinderella Story isn't a sequel of the original, go read interviews instead of listening to fan blogs and gossip magazines. Why is it in the lead? The lead introduction is supposed to be for her milestones, she is eventually going to release millions of singles are part of her record deal with Hollywood Records, why do we have her non-album singles/duets in the lead? Did those singles enter dozens of charts worldwide and break records? Did those singles sell millions and establish Gomez as a serious successful pop-rock musician? NO, they're just normal songs, One in the Same as a official single hasn't even been cited, just because a song is featured in a TV movie and then a music video for the song is released doesn't make it a single. Learn what a single is... the music video is clearly promotion for the TV movie, that's the only reason they made the music video. When a song/movie/show doesn't have it's own article, don't put it in the template, that makes it useless the template is for links. They need to lead to an article about the song she has recorded, not a song someone else has done. The lead you submitted is horrible, she is only 17 years old her career will continue and blossom, she has many intentions of becoming a serious adult actress, she wants to mature and grow up and listing every single role she's done in her childhood and pre-teen years won't help and isn't notable. Is her 30 second Suite Life role notable enough to be in the lead? Basically all you've done is copy the acting career section. Don't copy, what's the point of having an acting career section if everything is already in the lead? That's just messed up and screwed...

The way you've set the sections is wrong, look at other pages. Every single page about singers-actors is set out like this Acting, Music, not as an actress, as a musician. It's not like that. The header you had is too long and isn't improving the page. The page right now doesn't need improving, she hasn't done alot of roles and she hasn't had many milestones, wait until her career progresses not her personal life. Wait until she does something different, like star in a serious film then add it to the lead, that's worthy of being in the freaking lead! since she's never starred or co-starred in a mainstream, serious and mature film. Surely she'll do this in the future, her career isn't over she's just starting! By all means, she's no Miley Cyrus, she's a completely different kind of actress so please don't rush this and don't make the intro long, pointless and a newer version of the acting section as you did before. She's only done a couple of movies and most of her roles have been small, wait until a new major role in a non-tween movie happens. It's still 2009, she's still young and rising, she's a rising star not Molly Ringwald! Please stop rushing, wait and discuss!---Randolph3 (talk • contribs) 09:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Exposed - Kristinia DeBarge Album
The second single is a double a-side release.

Look at a highh profile artist such as Leona Lewis, on her album Spirit the songs "Better in Time" and "Footprints in the Sand" were released as a double a-side. They have been listed as "Better in Time/Footprints in the Sand" in that infobox and the album has been praised for its high quality and standards. Listsing the singles together does not make the songs the same thing - the article and track-listing explain this significantly and the fact that "future love" is track 2 and "sabotage" track 5 is evidence enough that they are the same song. if you choose to revert again with discussion i will report you to administrators for WP:IDHT or WP:disruptive editing. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 20:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC))


 * a classic case of WP:IDHT, you don't seem to be bothered that even a high profile release such as Leona Lewis even states this. Your approach to editing is wp:disruptive and your language when discussing issues is verging on profane, it is not appreciated or needed. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC))

you still fail to get the point my feelings are irrelevant to this discussion. believe me it takes a lot more than your comments to offend me i was merely pointing out that such language and failure to discuss/justify your edits can result in a ban from wikipedia. Listing the songs together with a '/' between them does not indicate that it was released as one single song. for the last time the article itself explains that it was a double single release and that one song was sent to pop radio whilst the other was sent to urban radio. why can't you accept that the fact that the songs appear on the track-listing individually and that it is CLEARLY WRITTEN/STATED in the article is sufficiant. for your information the article i referred to has been featured as an example to others. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:25, 30 July 2009 (UTC))


 * your still failing to acknowledge the issue, "if i were a boy" and "single ladies" were actually released as DUAL singles not as a double a-side. a double a-side is where the CD features both tracks. Beyonce released her singles seperately i.e. both recieved their own CDs. the CD single version of "if i were a boy" did not feature "single ladies" and vise versa. that is the MAJOR difference between yours and my example. i have invited several nuetral users to mediate the situation Talk:Exposed (Kristinia DeBarge album). and with regards to your language and personal comment "i am NOT shoving anything down anyone's throats" i am merely sharing what i have learnt through my own mistakes when editing. i am simply trying to make the article most accurate. it would be appreciated that you keep your personal problems to yourself, wikipedia is not a place to discuss problems with users, it us about discussing problems with the article, thats the major difference to my and your responses. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC))

Hey
Just came to say hi and how you have been but it seems that even you also have been the subject of IP attacks! He he that means you are surely doing something right here. :) --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh really!! My goodness. Hope that poltergeist has been blocked for eternity. I just noticed your user page notice regarding the IP attacks. Well done my friend! --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)