User talk:Polaris999/Archive 2

Libya
Thank you for promoting the Libya article to "good article". I've spent hours and hours, sometimes days editing it and I felt it deserved it. Thanks again, Jaw101ie 16:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Many thanks to you, Jaw101ie, for the wonderful Libyan Barnstar! It is definitely one of the most attractive I have ever seen, and I am very honored to have it on my User page.  Incidentally, I had not looked at the Libya article for many months, but happened to visit the Good articles/Nominations page yesterday and, as soon as I noticed Libya listed there, clicked over. It was a pleasure to see all of the improvements you had made in the text, and also the outstanding images that had been added throughout. I hope that you will continue developing it  -- including the addition of some inline citations -- so that it may eventually become a candidate for Featured Article status. Perhaps you might also include a mention of the GMR (and a link to the GMR article) in the Geography or Economy section since that project is of such great importance for Libya and the world. Congratulations on your impressive accomplishment! -- Polaris999 07:01, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Auto-hidden timelines
I know you managed to get the very impressive timeline at Cgtimeline to be automatically hidden, and be shown only if the reader clicks on "show". I am trying to do this for a timeline at Richard Francis Burton but without success... do you think you could advise me on what I am doing wrong? Many thanks, TheGrappler 22:48, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello TheGrappler. I certainly wish I could be of help but I have looked at your Richard Francis Burton timeline and the code seems fine to me. The only idea that comes to mind is the possibility that if you were to put the RFB timeline into a template the auto-"Hide" function might then work?  Have you tried this?
 * Polaris999 00:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello again, TheGrappler. A bit of good news: I just fixed your timeline. Hope it works perfectly for you from now on! (You can see the additional code in the statement.) -- Best wishes, Polaris999 08:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Fantastic, thank you very much :-) Surprisingly I was able to get my timelines to hide on List of New Jersey hurricanes too. Your efforts are very much appreciated. Once they're working properly, aren't these EasyTimelines neat? I think a lot of biographies could do with one, they certainly put a person's life into context! TheGrappler 21:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * You are most welcome! Speaking of surprising, I would put the fact that Cgtimeline hides itself without the additional code into that category, too -- I haven't figured out the reason yet.  Yes, I really like EasyTimelines -- viewing information in a graphical format provides a different perspective and, for me at least, makes the dates easier to remember. Polaris999 21:29, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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Che
Hey, I noticed that you rv'd my edit about Guevara's persecution of "gays, dissidents, and AIDS victims", made under my IP address. I just wanted to let you know that that was not intended as vandalism. In fact, it is nearly verbatim from the [link that accompanied it http://www.slate.com/id/2107100/]. However, you definitely have a valid point, and this is perplexing. What do you make of it? JianLi 05:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I make of it that www.slate.com is not a reliable source. I hope that you will raise the matter with them, and I would be very interested to hear their response. -- Polaris999 05:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Slate (magazine) is owned by the Washington Post. And the San Francisco Chronicle makes a similar point: "This camp was the precursor to the systematic confinement of dissidents, homosexuals, AIDS patients, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses and Afro-Cuban priests." JianLi 05:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, it seems that they are referring to Guanahacabibes in Pinar del Rio province which Guevara set up as a disciplinary center for officials working in the Ministry of Industries while he was the Minister. The violations in question had to do with things such as extreme administrative negligence, accepting bribes, etc. Definitely nothing at all to do with AIDS (which would have been impossible since, as we discussed above, AIDS was not discovered until 14 years after his death) or questions of sexuality or religious beliefs.  What did happen was that after Guevara left Cuba, the Guanahacabibes camp was transferred away from the Ministry of Industries and taken over by some other state entity and what happened there subsequently I do not know. But surely Guevara can not be held responsible for any abuses that may have occurred in that place after he had resigned all of his government posts, renounced his Cuban citizenship, and left Cuba!


 * Since we are discussing this matter, I would like to invite your attention to the hypothetical question of how Guevara, as a doctor, might have responded to the AIDS epidemic had he lived long enough to become aware of it. Perhaps you have seen or read The Motorcycle Diaries? If so, you will know that he chose the specialty of Dermatology because he had a particular concern for the suffering of leprosy patients, and that the whole point of the trip related in The Motorcycle Diaries was to get to the San Pablo Leper Colony in Perú in order to do volunteer work there. If you saw the film, you will also have seen how he rebelled against the administrators of the Leprosarium because of the way they treated the lepers as if they were a sub-class of humanity, how he refused to wear the "mandatory" gloves when shaking hands with or treating the patients and thereby aroused the ire of the administrators, etc.  Based on these facts, and on his strong sense of solidarity with all those who were suffering or oppressed for whatever reason, I personally believe that he would have been at the forefront of those in the medical community who are fighting for compassionate and comprehensive treatment for all individuals who have AIDS or are HIV-positive.


 * Well, I have told you my opinion about this, and now I would very much like to hear yours. -- Polaris999 06:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

'''NOTE: I have transferred this discussion to the Talk page of the Che Guevara article. Please post any follow-up there.''' Polaris999 09:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

AWB bot did great damage to the Che Guevara article
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I actually downloaded the before-and-after versions using wget and diffed them. The only change between the two versions is the replacement of "a.k.a." with "also known as", which was the entire purpose of my edit. You, sir, are simply mistaken as to the impact of the edits. Please do not attempt to assert ownership of articles. I am reinstating my edit. Kelly Martin (talk) 01:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Please go to Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser to see continuation of this topic. Polaris999 20:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Template for Che Guevara article
If you have the template, I can convert the calls on Che Guevara using AWB. No need to change them manually. Just drop a note on my talk. Cheers, --Ligulem 14:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Multiverse link
I'm disambiguifying links to the Multiverse page, and I notice that you have one in your favorite article list. Could you please change it to either Multiverse (science) or Parallel universe (fiction), or whatever else is appropriate? Thanks. --Mbell 19:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Will do. Thank you for informing me about the change. -- Polaris999 19:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Libya
The Libya article which you promoted to 'good' status has now been put forward as a candidate to become a 'Featured Article'. Feel free to evaluate it.

Featured article candidates

Thanks Jaw101ie 12:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello Jaw101ie and thank you for alerting me to the nomination of the Libya article for FA status. I looked at the article just now and noticed one issue that I believe requires your immediate attention before other editors see it and make critical comments: You have several times in the References section cited Wikipedia articles or lists as sources.  However, it is not accepted for a Wikipedia article to give another Wikipedia article or list as a source.  Here is the relevant statement about this, extracted from WP:Reliable Sources:


 * When reporting facts, Wikipedia articles should cite sources. Wikipedia is a tertiary source. Wikipedia cannot cite itself as a source—that would be a self-reference. There is a wealth of reliable information in tertiary sources such as the Encyclopædia Britannica. Note that unsigned Encyclopædia Britannica, World Book,  and Encarta articles are written by staff, who may not be experts, and the articles may therefore not have the same level of credibility, but they are regarded as reliable sources for Wikipedia's purposes. When wikipedians have the ambition to write a better encyclopedia entry than those extant, it does not suffice to rely on the content of such tertiary sources. Therefore, in general, as primary sources are also to be treated with caution (see above), secondary sources are the stock material on which Wikipedia articles depend for their references.


 * I would also suggest that you consider re-structuring the References section by dividing it into two sub-sections, one for printed matter and the other for websites (as has been done in the Che Guevara article). Good luck on the FAC! -- Polaris999 16:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments to Talk:CG
I've just removed the comments by the anonymous user and left a note in his talk page. It was an attack on the editors as a group (WP:NPA), it was out of place (Wikipedia is not a forum or a soapboax, WP:NOT) etc. etc. Feel free to do the same if it happens again. Note, it's not wrong to attack the subject of an article or to profer insults, per se, but doing it all the time unconstructively and/or attacking the editors is not only against the rules: it's disruptive and can be vandalic. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 17:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Many thanks, Pablo D. Flores, for resolving this problem and also for the explanation and references re how to proceed in case of a recurrence. -- Polaris999 19:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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