User talk:Police,Mad,Jack/Archive 2

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RE: Archive
Yup, that looks fine. SGGH speak! 23:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

LOM
The articles for LOM episodes are a great to have I'm changing the LOM template to include them and then I'll improve them -  J. Naven  11:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Gene Hunt
I think we should nominate this for Good article or at least try. He will and does have more info than Sam and Alex as he's in more episodes -  J. Naven  16:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks of course I stole it but thanks anyway -  J. Naven  12:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * i was only thinking GA not FA -  J. Naven  14:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Haha
Basketball 110  what famous people say  16:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Images
Good idea, I've added the images. Copying an image is really simple, though - just edit the article you're copying from, look for the " " markup in the relevant section, and copy and paste the whole thing to the new article. It would be better if we could get different and more illustrative pictures for each article, but there's no problem in reusing an image across several articles. (Image:Police_armed_uk.jpg was already being used on more than one.) --McGeddon (talk) 17:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Unlucky
You got tricked as well? -  J. Naven  17:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I did too, on the bright side you get barnstars -  J. Naven  18:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Award!
— ComputerGuy890100  17:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Book citing
Up to you to make the call about whether it's worth including. If it makes for a good paragraph of historical context, and if you cite the source, it should be fine. --McGeddon (talk) 17:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Bot
No, sorry. You need to know a programming code like perl or PHP in order to make a bot. You could be WP:AWB also. Look at Wikipedia's description if you like.  WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN that one guy who buried stuff  21:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

The Third Foward
Police, Mad, Jack. For your efforts in the 3rd WP:LE Forward, I award you your prizes, for completing sections A1 and A9 you receive two one-stripe project awards! Thank you for all your hard work, this has been the most successful forward so far. SGGH speak! 23:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

A2A 2night
This one should be good lets hope alex hits Gene agian, but doesn't kill him -  J. Naven  19:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Police use of firearms in the United Kingdom

 * Sorry, been a bit distracted lately. I've just got the first (1986) edition of the Armed Police book and am waiting for the new version to arrive, so I'll see about working the material in, but appropriately referenced. Nick Cooper (talk) 14:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Vandalism
Yeah, it's because I'm getting more involved in the vandal fighting process. Some refuse to accept my actions...  WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN aka john lennon  18:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * True. Very true.  WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN  aka john lennon  18:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL <font face="Book Antiqua"> WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN <font color="#666666">aka john lennon  18:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for lateness
Hi Sorry for not joining the LOM WikiProject when you requested, haven't logged in for ages. Thanks for inviting me, and have now added my name to the list

Sam —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shealer (talk • contribs) 23:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Life on Mars
Hi Police,Mad,Jack:

I have a couple of questions regarding WikiProject Life on Mars which I hope you will do your best to answer.

Would the exclusive short story based on the show written by Matthew Graham for The Mail on Sunday over Christmas 2007 (the story itself has no title, but appears to be known as Life on Mars Christmas Special) have any place in WikiProject Life on Mars? The story is set at Christmas 1973, and appears to be set after the end of the television series -- as well as implying that Sam Tyler did not die soon after he returned permanently to 1973, but went instead into an irreversible coma in which he survived until at least the end of 2006. That's the theory I worked out from reading the story, anyway...!

Does WikiProject Life on Mars also plan to cover the books Life on Mars: The Official Companion by Guy Adams and Lee Thompson, published by Pocket Books in 2006, and Life on Mars: The Rules of Modern Policing - 1973 Edition by 'DCI Gene Hunt' (in reality, Guy Adams), published by Bantam Press in 2007?

I await your reply with great interest.

See you around,

Freddie R. Aldous--Freddie R. Aldous (talk) 19:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Prison Cell article
Jack,

Thanks for your interest in and contributions to law-enforcement related articles on Wikipedia. I recently reviewed Prison cell and found that much of the article seem to be your contributions. That is an ambitious undertaking! However, I am a bit troubled by the quality of your contribution. Wikipedia is accessible to all, thus should be written in such a manner that the author's message is clear. Your contributions on Prison cell contains several run-on sentences, rampant unnecessary capitalization, and information that may have local accuracy, but lacks validity on a grander scale. Each error distracts the reader and reduces the article's usefulness. It is apparent from your user page that you have a great interest in Wikipedia - as such, I would ask you to pay more attention to the quality of your submissions and not edit articles unless your edits meet Wikipedia's quality standards. It may be best to have someone else review your text before posting. Good luck in your future career in law-enforcement, it is a great field (I've been a police officer in the USA for about six years now). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foiltape (talk • contribs) 05:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Citing sources
Hello there. Good work on digging up sources - if you put around the URLs you're citing (instead of the square brackets), then they'll automatically appear in the references list further down the article. --McGeddon (talk) 15:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, citing a book is fine - just give as much detail as you can, including the page number. It's probably easiest to just cut and paste the template at Template:Cite_book, and fill in the details as appropriate. Give me a shout if you've got any questions. --McGeddon (talk) 15:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Almost! You just need to put either side of it, so that it appears in the references at the bottom, rather than in the body of the article. I've made the change, so that you can see what I mean. --McGeddon (talk) 15:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Fixed the spacing - it was because there was a gap between the two refs. They need to follow on without any gap at all, to appear on the same line. --McGeddon (talk) 15:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The line "Fully automatic weapons can be granted for special use in hostage rescue situations." still needs a source, so feel free to just put at the end of that, and remove the section tag. --McGeddon (talk) 15:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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the bill
just trying to help Malpass93 (talk) 19:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Might be worth it. The project is inactive, so lets make it active. I'll sign up now. Malpass93 (talk) 19:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

confused
I don't know, it was like it wasn't even Ashes and the story was stupid and confusing, Ashes isn't as good as LoM I was hopin it would be - <span style="font-family:Dungeon,Andy,cursive;color:#ddf;"> J. Naven  22:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Ray Carling edits
They do make it a better article. What was there before I edited (and what has now reppeared) is poorly written and will make little or no sense to someone who has not watched the episodes in question. But if you think the article deserves to be written in the style of a concussed G.C.S.E. student, go ahead! Perhaps Life On Mars doesn't deserve any better. I, however, think it does.

B.T.W., I found your message almost impossible to comprehend. Is English your second language? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucy McGough (talk • contribs) 10:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Blanking discussion page
The above user said: "Is English your second language?", so I replied. <font face="Book Antiqua">WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN <font color="#666666">aka john lennon 20:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha! And the rugby springs to mind :) <font face="Book Antiqua">WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN <font color="#666666">aka john lennon  20:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's never happened...and we don't actually wear kilts everyday. <font face="Book Antiqua">WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN <font color="#666666">aka john lennon  20:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ;) <font face="Book Antiqua">WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN <font color="#666666">aka john lennon  20:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes Articles
I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about. I have never deleted Life on Mars (an article about the possibility of life on Mars) or Ashes to Ashes (a disambiguation page), nor the articles on the David Bowie songs Life on Mars? and Ashes to Ashes (song). What are the exact names of the articles I'm suppose to have deleted? —Angr If you've written a quality article... 20:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see. I didn't delete any articles, I deleted four images, Image:Annie Cartwright.jpg, Image:Chris Skelton.jpg, Image:Ray carling.jpg, and Image:Sam tyler.jpg. All four of these images had been tagged since February 29 as having disputed fair-use rationales. The tag in all four cases read, "This is a cropped screenshot of the BBC Life on Mars website, which includes the background pattern of the page. It is not from a 'press kit or similar source, for the purpose of reuse by the media'." —Angr If you've written a quality article... 20:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Apology
I'm sorry I was rude to you. It was completely uncalled for. Please accept my sincere apologies.

...
I hope so too. All the best! Lucy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucy McGough (talk • contribs) 16:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Firearms Unit
Thanks for the heads up, but it makes more sense to leave those sorts of comments on the talk page of the article, so that everyone interested in working on it can see it and respond. --McGeddon (talk) 18:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Links are still links, even without the brackets - Wikipedia detects the "http://" and turns the whole URL into a link. Ideally these should all be proper links that have the titles of the destination pages, but in the absence of that, a full URL is more useful to the reader than a mysterious number. --McGeddon (talk) 18:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

External links will tell you all you need to know. --McGeddon (talk) 18:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

If there's no picture there already, you might as well put something up there and see what other editors think. If you want to discuss it beforehand, it'd make more sense to do it on the articles' talk pages (or a relevant Wikiproject page?) than a single user's talk page. --McGeddon (talk) 18:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Userboxes
Oh jeez, this is difficult. I use this code: {| border="0" align="center" style="text-align:left; background:#FFFFFF" ...

and you keep going on like that. For the scrollbars:

CONTENT CONTENT CONTENT

</div

Any questions to me please... <font face="Book Antiqua">WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN <font color="#666666">tell me a joke... 22:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstars survey
Hi Police,Mad,Jack. I'm running a small survey about wikipedian barnstars. If you have the time, I would really appreciate you taking a look and participating. The survey can be found here. Thank you! Bestchai (talk) 22:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

User warnings
Sorry to bring this up again, but you seem to have forgotten it. When issuing a warning to a user with no previous warnings, you should start with a level one warning and progress it from there. Going straight to a level three is an unhelpful misuse of the warning system - not only does it discourage good faith editors, but the first warning level often explains what the problem is (the third level warning assumes that the editor has already had a first and second level one, so doesn't repeat it in detail).

You should also sign your warnings so that the editor can contact you if they have any questions (and so that they realise it's a message from another editor, rather than an automated Wikipedia alert).

Thanks for taking the time to issue warnings, but please be a bit more careful about which ones you use. Cheers. --McGeddon (talk) 11:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Even if you're pointing out people's mistakes in your corrective edit summaries, you should still start with a level one warning and work your way up. It's quite possible that a user who is new to Wikipedia wouldn't know to check the edit history, and would only see that their edit had disappeared. --McGeddon (talk) 20:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Police,Mad,Jack I would love it if you could adopt me! Thank you! Hamishmackellar (talk) 09:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

^ what he said!

I have asked for adoption as I saw you were adopting and noone has offered to adopt me yet and I seriously need to learn how to use wiki technology!! and I think you are the only member I know about(kinda) who is adopting1 Flardox (talk) 22:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Adoption
Yeah, I know the feeling. I have too. I'm in year 7. You? Anyways, my interests are computers, science and warfare. I could be described as a Power Gamer as I just spent £85 on a keyboard and mouse! When i was little i dreamt of being a cop, fireman or soldier. yeah, that's me in a nutshell. I'm so short I could probably fit in one too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamishmackellar (talk • contribs) 16:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Fake article
Go for it. I'll make a new page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamishmackellar (talk • contribs) 17:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought you could make a new subpage on my userpage. anyway, what page above? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamishmackellar (talk • contribs) 17:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Done!! Hamishmackellar (talk) 17:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Fake article
changed:-) Hamishmackellar (talk) 17:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

watchlist
nope, i have no idea what it is Hamishmackellar (talk) 18:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

by the way, ive read those guides --Hamishmackellar (talk) 18:09, 17 March 2008 (UTC) so it's really just a list of who has made changes to what pages i'm watching, right? Hamishmackellar (talk) 18:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC) nice Hamishmackellar (talk) 19:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I was doing some stuff on the Nangpa La Shootings and Wilkes University, but I'm open to suggestions! Hamishmackellar (talk) 19:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC) dude, im gonna go to bed now cos i'm knackered. my house is a building site at the moment! :-D e-mail me at hamish.mackellar@crypt.gloucs.sch.uk. i'll probably reply at lunch. Or in french :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamishmackellar (talk • contribs) 19:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

i've just copy edited jail cell! Hamishmackellar (talk) 18:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, cheers! What do i do now? Hamishmackellar (talk) 18:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jack, i owe you one! 19:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamishmackellar (talk • contribs)

It went ok, i copy edited jail cell but thta's about all so far. Hamishmackellar (talk) 15:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC) PS if you want to go on a really good game then search for hapland!

thank you!
hi police,mad,jack

thanks again for getting rid of the vandalism on my user page

I was wondering if I could place this picture on the vandals page?



ok if it would not be good.

Flardox —Preceding comment was added at 20:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

done!
i did it! 16:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks! Hamishmackellar (talk) 16:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Gloucester Hamishmackellar (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

What school are you at?? Hamishmackellar (talk) 20:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

You OK?
Are you OK Jack, It's been 2 days and I haven't heard from you? Hamishmackellar (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

done!
Done it! Hamishmackellar (talk) 08:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem!
It's easy to make mistakes - I make plenty! Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 09:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Charity Begins at Home (Ashes to Ashes)
Why do you keep being so picky on the above article, I worked hard on it and now your just making it something it shouldnt be, have you actually seen the episode? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Police,Mad,Jack (talk • contribs)
 * Not yet but your plot description is impossible to read. It has some atrocious grammar and is very unclear.  I would help edit but it's quite late.  Sorry about that spelling correction.  I chose the wrong word in my spell checker. --Phoenix Hacker (talk) 11:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Thats fine we all make mistakes, but ok fair enough I dont want you to keep you up as its only 11:00AM here, but apart from grammar its content was good, wasnt it? Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 11:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a start. Upon reading it again it looks like you've got the essential information there.  It just needs some editing for formatting and grammar. --Phoenix Hacker (talk) 11:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 11:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Thanks a ton! I'm a newbie, so I need to find out how to do this stuff properly.

Maybe I'll stick to editing text, rather than images!

Dibship (talk) 17:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC) P.S. Did that work? It should have my name there.

Vague or ambiguous time
The category is added automatically because the template is called somewhere in the article. --McGeddon (talk) 15:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry!
Sorry I haven;t replied for a while benn quite busy. What did you mena about the stuff you put on the adoptions page? Hamishmackellar (talk) 19:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Oh right, I get it now. Hamishmackellar (talk) 08:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Mikkalai
You are aware that user:Mikkalai is an admin, right? <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  19:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree, but WP:DTTR applies. <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  19:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thankyou for signing, I'm glad you like my page. I would like to award you with this barnstar. Have a nice day! wwe socks sign 22:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome! wwe socks sign 22:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Phew
And here I thought I'd have to move another freakin' comment to User talk:21655/Mistakes. But thanks. Hehe.  21 <font color="#990000">6 55  τalk/ʃign 21:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The Adopt-a-User Barnstar
I was going to add my name to Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area/Adopters so that I could adopt a user, and when I saw your name on the list of adopting users I thought that you deserved this barnstar! Enjoy!--Mifter (talk) 21:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Wikibreak
Thanks! SGGH speak! 23:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Birthday poss vandalism
No problem! Vandal fighters here at wiki are so much charged up that they do revert some edits like this one. ;) -- S M S  Talk 19:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Life on Mars - April 2008 Newsletter
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Re: Luke French
Hey,

I think in some cases deletion can be necessary, because there are some characters that are just so minor they'll never satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria, but with Luke being a major character in a much publicized BBC drama, I totally agree there's room for improvement there. Irritatingly, I completely missed it earlier, but the BBC Press Office releases are so detailed for HolbyBlue, I always feel I know exactly what's going to happen anyway - oh, but Robert died tonight, didn't he? Hm, I might have to watch it on BBC iPlayer. Was it a good episode? Frickative (talk) 00:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Months and years
Please see WP:Dates: "Links to date elements that do not contain both a day number and a month are not required; for example, solitary months, solitary days of the week, solitary years, decades, centuries, and month and year combinations. Such links must not be used unless the reader needs to follow the link to understand the topic". Only useful terms need to be linked - not every instance of a year, month or other mundane term that adds no value to the article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 18:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Someone vandalized my Userspace! But a little angel came along and fixed it! Thank you! You can thank others by using {{subst:Vangel}}!  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  18:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Revert to my edits on ASBO
Hello, You recently reverted an edit I made to the ASBO page, and threatened to block me for 'vandalism'. My edit was not vandalism; I was removing vandalism and making a minor grammatical edit. I trust that you will not revert my edit again, nor accuse me of vandalism. Thank you.Mattsea (talk) 00:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

hi mate
Hi sorry I not been here lately, I had tones of coursework and then went on holiday so I took a wikibreak, just wondering how the LOM project is going - <span style="font-family:Dungeon,Andy,cursive;color:#ddf;"> J. Naven  14:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks I did have a nice holiday in Miami, but got sunburnt. I've just wrote episode 8 of Ashes which was mint. We'll have to get the project a comeback. - <span style="font-family:Dungeon,Andy,cursive;color:#ddf;"> J. Naven  15:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Police,Mad,Jack, thanks for the compliment! It was very warmly received. I'd like to introduce more articles in the scope of law enforcement, but most wikipedians seem to have done a excellent job covering most areas already, I tend to add little bits here and there. If and when I can add anything substantial to the project, I will! --Factorylad (talk) 15:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's right, I'm not too keen on going into details on the internet as you can understand, however if it gives me an excuse to add another userbox to my user page, I'm more than happy! All I'll say is that I've got more than a couple of years service and I work on a response team in a very busy city.  Hope that's enough to go on :) --Factorylad (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you SW3C (talk) 16:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

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Block of Fake
barneca not me, I just replied to the topic. barneca did the work. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Rgoodermote  14:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Hiya!
Hello, sorry for the messed-up-ness of my talk page, I've got a layout on there, didn't realise it would create problems if people tried to leave a message, sorry 'bout that. :S Looking at the history and what you originally wrote, you mentioned something about userboxes? Mine look all weird at the moment, got any tips? Anyway thanks for (trying!) to leave a message, much appreciated.

PS: I'm from east London. :) londonsista  | <sup style="color:#ff66cc;">Prod  13:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Law
Cheers, thanks for the welcome. Prosaic contributions aren't easy at the moment because as you may have figured, I'm rather busy lately, but once exams are over, I'll dip my feet in further. WilliamH (talk) 18:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandal warnings
Sorry to bring this up again, but you still seem to be issuing level four warnings against new users, without going through the first two or three levels. I appreciate that vandals are annoying and can sometimes seem quite blatant, but a level four warning is only appropriate in extreme situations. Many new users delete pages or add gibberish into articles while getting a feel for Wikipedia, and we shouldn't scare them off with a "stop right now or you will be banned" warning.

You're also still failing to sign your vandal-warning comments, giving the user no sense of who has warned them, and who they should talk to about it. It's important to put your signature at the end. Thanks. --McGeddon (talk) 16:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I really don't think you understand how the vandalism warning system works. A level-four-im warning should only be issued for extreme bad faith edits where the vandal needs to be stopped dead in their tracks, such as being in the process of spamming a link across a hundred articles, using some technical exploit to damage Wikipedia, or being the sockpuppet of a known, repeat vandal. It's not for kids who write their name in the middle of a single article as their first edit.
 * For minor graffiti like this, we should assume good faith and see how the user reacts to a polite level one warning - most will stop anyway when they realise that they're being watched, and a slim few will apologise for their test edits and go on to become constructive Wikipedia editors. I'm not "defending the vandals", as you put it, I'm defending the slim minority who are just making test edits and will calm down if warned politely. We shouldn't bite the newcomers.
 * Please make sure you understand how the vandalism warning system works before continuing to use it. And please sign your warnings - perhaps your thinking is that if you don't sign the comment then the vandal won't come and vandalise your user page, but you're also cutting out apologies and questions from valuable newcomers. --McGeddon (talk) 09:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for listening. I trust you'll sign your warnings in future. --McGeddon (talk) 09:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

And just to get across how serious this is - User:89.240.132.87 appears to have left Wikipedia after you gave them an unsigned level-four bad-faith warning for (accidentally?) deleting a character from a list, while cleaning up the whitespace in an article. They could have become a useful Bill-related contributor, but you told them they'd be banned if they made another mistake, and they left. --McGeddon (talk) 09:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, they made no further edits after your warning. They could have come back via another IP address or set up an account, but it'd be completely understandable if they gave up on Wikipedia after being told that their attempt to clean up an article was "disruptive" and that continuing this "vandalism" would result in an immediate ban. Don't bite the newcomers - we were all new here once. --McGeddon (talk) 16:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, he could be ill, or on holiday, or an actual vandal, but he could also have been genuinely driven away solely by your inappropriate usage of a level four warning, which should be a sobering thought. Vandal warnings are powerful things, and can do a great deal of damage to new users if misused - it's good that you're helping out by issuing them, you just need to be more careful about how you use them. --McGeddon (talk) 19:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

EOKA
I reverted your edit because: Hope this provides a good enough explanation Georgeg (talk) 18:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * EOKA was disbanded in 1959 hence could not have carried out an attack in 1980 as per your entry and
 * your claim is unreferenced

yet another possible source for the show
Hi I hope I'm not breaking any rules, but I find the instructions a bit hard to follow!

I have just read a DREADFUL book published in 1957 by John Dickson Carr. The large print version ISBN is 0-7089-4606-2.

Detective John Cheviot, following a car accident, finds himself back in 1829 as a gentleman named John Cheviot who is trying to make the newly formed police force be viewed as a respectable body.

He applies his modern knowledge to the solution of a murder mystery and gets into lots of difficulty with the customs of the time and his knowledge of what is going to happen.

He is murdered in the past and returns to his present day persona to find that his 1829 mistress is in fact his present day wife.

The parallels are rather striking, I think!

Fran Myers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.163.137.112 (talk) 02:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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We here at Wikiproject Law Enforcement are currently in the process of deciding wither or not to make this WikiProject Law Enforcement's official Barnstar award. Being that you are a member of Wikiproject Law Enforcement, we are humbly asking you to voice your opinion here about our new Barnstar.

Thank You and All the Best, Mifter (talk) 20:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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Inappropriate warnings, again
Please stop giving new Wikipedia users unsigned level-4 warnings, Jack. You said you'd stop, but you've just done it again here, giving a new user a bad-faith level four warning after their first and only edit was an innocent question in the body of an article. This is exactly the situation that merits a hello-and-welcome Template:Uw-talkinarticle template - not a final, unsigned warning.

Inappropriate vandalism warnings deter new users and damage Wikipedia. If you continue to threaten new users with inappropriate level-four warnings, you will be reported. --McGeddon (talk) 15:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:VAND. Editors should try to start with a level-one warning, and may choose to move up to a level two or three if they're confident that it's bad-faith vandalism. A level four should only be issued in an extreme situation, such as an active spammer, a sockpuppet or someone maliciously moving articles around.
 * None of your level four warnings have been for an extreme situation. You've given one out for someone removing whitespace and a duplicate entry from a list, and you've now given another for asking a question which you feel a Bill viewer should know the answer to (to take five seconds to assume good faith, maybe they were using Wikipedia to check something that a friend had told them). At the strongest, Wikipedia would only encourage a level three warning - at its weakest, we have the completely appropriate Template:uw-delete and Template:uw-talkinarticle.
 * In both cases you've decided not to sign the comment to make your life easier, because you're afraid the vandal might vandalise your page in response, and don't seem to care that they might be an innocent user who'd have a question and wouldn't know who to ask. Presumably the level four warning is to save you the effort of having to issue further warnings if they ignore you and repeat their vandalism. This just isn't on, Jack - you shouldn't risk harming the Wikipedia project to make your own activity on it slightly easier. --McGeddon (talk) 18:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You're right, I don't know what your motives for assuming bad faith and giving level-four warnings to new Wikipedia users, but you've said on my talk page that you aren't signing your warnings "so no attacks are brought against me". I appreciate it's to spare you the time of deleting any abuse on your talk page rather than being "scared" by it, but it's still inappropriate - users (including people who might end up being assigned that IP address by their ISP three months down the line) should be given a clear indication that the warning came from a human being who they can apologise or appeal to.
 * Try issuing a level one or two warning the next time you see a vandal, you'll see that it still works. You might even get an apology and a helpful editor out of it. --McGeddon (talk) 20:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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Re. The Bill Character Articles
In reply to your message: Yeh i know - most of them were stubs without a real need for references. I mean why would you need to reference the fact that they are characters from The Bill. It's like having to reference that Kevin Rudd is the Prime Minister of Australia. It's pretty obvious. I guess someone thought otherwise though! If I had more time on my hands and knew about the PRODs I'd have fixed them up or contested, but oh well... SMC89 ( talk • contribs ) 09:48, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm back
Hi Jack, sorry I haven't been around lately, we're currently renovating my house and I just came back from a rugby tour. How are things going? Hamishmackellar (talk) 18:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

yeah, i'm alright. got a swollen face from bein punched though. fun fun. Hamishmackellar (talk) 15:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

course! Hamishmackellar (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Blair
You claimed an "uncanny" ressemblance. There is no reference to any uncanniness in the Menezes article. There were claims in the media that the Met doctored some released photos to try to heighten any ressemblance. So whilst it is correct to say that they thought Menezes was one of the bombers, claims that it was due to an uncaany ressemblance ar unjustified.--Peter cohen (talk) 16:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Your ANI posting
You may wish to apologise to the IP before this escalates further. As per my reply on ANI, I've reviewed every single one of this IP's edits and they're all valid - including the edits to your userpage and talkpage - whereas a glance at their talkpage history shows what appears to be a sustained campaign of harassment and malicious "warnings" by yourself. On reading this talkpage I can see you've already been repeatedly warned regarding your inappropriate use of level 4 warnings.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent  17:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Adminship
Heh, sure! Thanks mate  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  18:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And Happy Birthday for yesterday! ;)  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  18:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

WBOSITG's RfA
<div class="boilerplate metadata afd vfd xfd-closed" style="background-color: #F0F0FF; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAACC;"> Hello Police,Mad,Jack, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your participation in my RfA which was passed with a final tally of 114/10/4. I'm both shocked and honoured to gain so much support from users whom I admire and trust, and I hope I can avoid breaking that backing by being the best administrator I possibly can. I will take on board the opposition's comments and I hope to improve over the coming months and years. Once again, thank you!  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  20:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

User page vandalism
Thanks for the fix. --McGeddon (talk) 15:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: The Template Barnstar
Thanks a Lot For the Barnstar, that was a very un-expected surprise, I have been doing some vandal fighting recently using Huggle, and I thought for sure your message would be some Anon complaining that I wrongly reverted their edits :) but, to my happy surprise it was not some complaining anon but a good friend of mine stopping in to give me a barnstar :D. Anyways thanks for the star it was a very pleasant surprise :). All the Best, --Mifter (talk) 10:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Done
hi jack i've done the article on the adoptions page it's on the Heckler & Koch MK23 pistol

I've just seen mate, well done. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 18:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Mistaken revert
This revert was made in error, it was a spelling correction from vandalise to vandalize. ff m  15:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No, PMJ is right; "vandalise" is the correct spelling.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent  16:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that the revert button should only be used for reverting vandalism. In any case, I forgot the difference between US and UK english, as "vandalize" is correct in the USA. ff m  16:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If they were not intended to be edited, then they would be protected as css and js pages are. In any case, I had the user's permission to do so and it was a trivial edit. Would you revert people changing templates for the userbox migration? ff m  16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * (in reply to this) Woah, woah, woah, I knew about this, calm down, all. Be civil, thank you.  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  16:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I'm amazed at the amount of wikidrama that can come off a single edit that changed one byte. ff m  16:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it's alright, but the edit summary might have signified a joke. No worries, everyone's still alive and such :D   weburiedoursecrets  inthegarden  16:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Really, it's no big deal. Sorry for all the talk page eating drama ^^;   weburiedoursecrets  inthegarden  16:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose. But I'm not offended by the revert, it's all right.   weburiedoursecrets  inthegarden  18:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Tagging
Actually, Police,Mad,Jack, as per our scope we don't have military-police-related articles in our remit. We leave those to WP:MILHIST so that is the tag you should be putting on. Don't worry, easy mistake to make, I used to tag them too before we wrote down guidelines for it. Regards, SGGH speak! 14:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * S'alright :) SGGH speak! 16:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Exams
Thanks! I had my last one yesterday. I think they all went well. :)  weburiedoursecrets  inthegarden  15:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

flardox vandal
they appear to have stopped. if it happens again we'll get them blocked. ninety:one 15:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * if teutonic ryte does it again, he can get a block. anymore vandalism to that page and we'll have to go to admins for some kind of protection. ninety:one 17:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * textbook case of WP:DICK. of all the people to pick on though... ninety:one 17:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * don't feed the trolls ;) just ignore his talk page, all he wants is attention. ninety:one 15:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you'll find that this is ongoing, PMJ. The source is on a blacklisted website and they consider Flardox to be an easy target, and regretably he is. A friend of his is apparently vandalising the article on Flardox over there. FYI.  Get  Dumb   09:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Revert
Thanks! Now blocked...<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent  15:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Again, I must apologize
sorry i haven't been on for a while Jack, the wall in my kitchen was taken out with a jackhammer 2 hours ago. things like that keep on happening. Hamishmackellar (talk) 12:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Nazi. I concur.

Ah, it happens. Hamishmackellar (talk) 08:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Personal attack by TeutonicRyte (Heading put in place by me)
I concur.

Nazi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TeutonicRyte (talk • contribs) 16:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC) reported User:TeutonicRyte to ANI. ninety:one 16:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * and now he is blocked ninety:one 16:56, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Help needed
The user User:Beamathan is starting an edit war on the Kosovo page about an image that I have posted. His requests sound reasonable, yet are not. Could you please monitor or block him because he is purposly stoping my contributions and attacking me.24.36.19.38 (talk) 02:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject United Kingdom Supermarkets and Retailers
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RE: RE: Your opinion
I think it's alright, just needs some cleanup. Feel free to take it to AfD, if you like.  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  09:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright then :)  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  09:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure. You're right enough about the project, it does seem to have died a little. Nevermind, I'm sure we'll get some quality articles on LoM without the project. Good luck,  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  09:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, I don't really like Indy movies. I saw part of one on BBC a while back, it didn't particularly interest me :)  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  09:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * ...Ok then :) Gotta love USSR!  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  09:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, enjoy the film!  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  09:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps. You'd have to be contributing actively to XfDs and tagging new vandalistic pages for deletion. I can coach you if you want, but you'd have to hold on for a few months before your RfA. :D  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  16:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks for the reply. Could I contact you in the future if I need advice on what I should do if people are edit waring?24.36.19.38 (talk) 22:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
I'm cross-posting this part of the conversation from my talk page, as I think it makes sense for whoever takes you on to see it, so they can see - and disagree with if necessary - what advice I've given you<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent 16:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC) I was thinking and reading requests for admin coaching and I am intending putting my name down on it. Would you be interested in coaching me? Its no worries if your not, but I thought i'd ask because you strike me as someone who knows what they are doing. Many thanks. Yours, Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 11:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Although I'm certainly willing to answer any questions, I'm probably not the best person to act as admin coach, since — although I do have admin status — I tend to focus in fairly specialised areas, and there are large chunks of Wikipedia I don't really spend any time with. Also, given the nature of my work, I'm quite often away or busy for long periods of time; there's also a conflict of interest situation (both on Wikipedia and in the real world) if I were to edit and/or discuss at length many of the articles you work on. Of the current coaches, the ones I think would best suit you are Balloonman or Pedro. I think LaraLove would also suit you very well, but she's in Texas so (I'm guessing) would probably never be online at the same time as you. When you go for RFA, the participants will generally look at your history for the last couple of months. A few things I'd recommend doing now — to make sure any problems are well in the past by the time of the RFA - are:
 * 1) At the moment, your edit summary usage is unacceptably low. I'd strongly recommend ticking "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" under "Editing" in your preferences;
 * 1) While by-and-large you've worked in a reasonable variety of areas, you've virtually no Wikipedia Talk edits — only 39, and all but 15 of them are to WikiProject pages. Because Wikipedia Talk is where policy is discussed, it's good (although not essential) to be able to demonstrate you've participated in policy discussions so you understand how consensus is formed, and also to show that you understand the high levels of abuse that admins get subjected to;
 * 1) You've a lot of userboxes on your user page; while there's no policy at all against this, you might want to trim them down quite substantially. The people who vote at WP:RFA tend to be strongly against people using Wikipedia as a social networking site, and a lot of information about yourself — as opposed to what you bring to Wikipedia — can (fairly or not) swing people against you. In particular, I'd get rid of "This user is not a Wikipedia administrator, but would like to be one someday", which a lot of people hate; adminship on Wikipedia isn't any kind of promotion, it just means a few more technical powers.


 * 1) Although you've created a fair few articles, some of them are a bit messy (as you can see by the assorted cleanup tags people have put on them), and none of them are very long. As one question that is always asked at RFA is "What is your best contribution to Wikipedia", I'd suggest picking one or two and expanding them into long, informative articles. They don't have to be masterpieces of writing, but they ideally should: cover everything a casual reader without specialist knowledge who stumbled on the article would be interested in knowing; have inline citations for each piece of information; be from a neutral point of view. Have a look at the (now slightly out of date) article I wrote on Central Communications Command for the sort of thing I mean in a police-related context; I freely admit that it's messy and deathly dull, but if you didn't know anything about the subject, it tells you everything a non-specialist is likely to want to know.
 * 1) Stop giving out level 4 warnings unless the vandal has already received earlier warnings or the vandalism is really serious! Because AGF is part of the fourth of the Five pillars, even if you're perfect in every other way, an RFA will be shot down in flames unless you show you're willing to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, as nobody will trust you with the protect & block buttons. I'd strongly recommend making a habit of reading WP:AN, WP:ANI and WT:RFA every day, even though they're generally dull as ditchwater, to get a feeling for the way admins "behave" on Wikipedia.

Hope all that helps! Sorry it's a bit long-winded... When you do find an admin coach, I'd suggest you point this conversation out to them, so they can see what I've already told you (and disagree if necesary). One thing I can't emphasise enough is don't nominate yourself for RFA; self-nominations almost always fail. Your admin coach(es) will nominate you themselves when they think you have a reasonable chance of passing.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent 16:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) You've very little experience in deletions, and deletion policy is such a core theme that people will expect you to have demonstrated that you understand it. Read (and make sure you understand) WP:CSD and WP:DEL as people will ask you questions about them. Read through the the current deletion discussions whenever you get the chance, to see what sort of things are discussed; once you feel confident that you understand policy — but not until then — start to join in at least the occasional discussion there.
 * 1) The same few questions are asked at RFA each time. Read the questions-and-answers at the most recent successful RFAs to get a feel for what questions you're going to be asked, and what the people who answered them successfully said.

How It Came About
- 		 - 	well, I moved into our new house about 8 months ago from a house we built ourselves and discovered that the guy who owned this house before us had botched it all. He rented it out and on the first day here we found underwear on the floor. Lovely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamishmackellar (talk • contribs) 18:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, it happens. Hamishmackellar (talk) 20:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi
You are like so kind, thanks for taking the time to leave me a nice messge thats very sweet, and your page rocks! I'm from Australia, Sydney where do you hail from? Also do you mind if I steal that image on your talkpage and by the way how did you find me. :) Wannabe Wiki  ( talk ) 10:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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Wannabe Wiki ( talk ) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

YEP, Thats the one and don't worry I won't tell anyone where you got it from :) Wow Cambridge huh? I want to go there one day. Wannabe Wiki  ( talk ) 10:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm 14 hope that's not young or too old, what about you? Wannabe Wiki ( talk ) 10:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm female. :) Wannabe Wiki ( talk ) 10:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

PMJ and Coaching
Hi PMJ,

I've just taken a close look at your edits and at this point in time, I can't accept you as a coachee. I generally target coachees who I feel are 2-3 months away from running for adminship and who have concerns that I believe I can help with. At this time, I am not sure if you are 2-3 months away or if I would be able to assist you. There are issues that you need to address. Most of this you've already heard, but you seemed reluctant to make the changes. For example, when McGeddon tried to help, you got defensive (even rude.) He correctly challenged your use of level 4 warnings and how that can chase off otherwise solid users. He also talked about how you need to sign your warnings. You continued to have issue with these two points until an admin reiterated these concerns. That admin then gave you a number of solid ideas on his talk page. Many of these ideas don't appear to have been worked on. This leaves me wondering how you would respond to my "homework" assignments... especially the one's where I would be challenging you to explore wikipedia more.

Then there is your attitude. Right now I see a lot of edits from you that are a little overly hostile, for example:  There were a lot more, but your manner is overly agressive and I don't believe that it is indicative of what we are looking for in admins. I would strongly advise you to listen to the guidance issued by Iridescent and McGeddon. I would also try to watch what you say and how you say it. Words like crappy and what the hell are not things we want to see. Not only do you need to Assume Good Faith, but you need to communicate in a manner that isn't likely to escalate issues.

Now, I may be completely off, but civility and communication skills are the two things that I look for most in potential coachees. Everything else I can work with, but when I question a potential coachees civility and patience, then I have to wonder. I do wish you the best and would be happy to review you again in a few months. If you doubt this assessment, I would encourage an Editor Review.Balloonman (talk) 06:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * One other thing, start responding to people on the page where the discussion began. It is a real pain in the butt to figure out conversations when there is only one side of the discussion.  This is particularly true when there are multiple people commenting and responding on the same thread.  I have another coachee, whom I almost rejected, because by reading just his talk page, he looked like he had major problems.  It was only by reading the responses that I realized what was going on.  If he left his page the way it was, he might have found it harder to pass an RfA in the future.  Some of your interactions about your activities (especially when you are being criticized) would be a lot easier to follow if they were all on the same page.Balloonman (talk) 07:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

What I've decided to do is reply on others talk pages as well as on my owns, what do you think? Good idea? Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 17:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

What now?
What should I do now? Hamishmackellar (talk) 07:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC) Wow, thanks dude! Hamishmackellar (talk) 15:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Thanks Hamish MacKellar (talk) 18:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Coaching
Hi there. I am thinking of getting out of the whole admin coaching thing, and your message has reminded me I need to take my name off of the list. I did coach someone a while ago but haven't heard from them since so I assume they don't need my help anymore, but I will be happy to give you advice. SGGH speak! 14:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit made with my sock
Hello PMJ.

I wanted to apologize for editing your page against your wishes, but I also want to tell you why I did that.

Someone recently added Category:WikiLove templates to various templates, such as Template:Smile, Template:Cookie, and several others.

However, the person who added the category to the templates neglected to put the category inside tags, so the category got added whenever someone used those templates. Since people subst those templates, merely changing the template would not remove the category from all those talk pages, (which are certainly not wikilove templates) so I used AutoWikiBrowser to correct this problem.

I will not remove the category again, but I don't think your talk page belongs in it.

I hope my explanation is adequate.

<font color="#ffe800">J.d <font color="#00ff00">ela noy gabs analyze  17:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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prod
We do not delete articles for things which appear to be notable just because they have only one reference. There is no requirement for more unless the reference fails to show sufficient notability. The thing to do rather is to tag "improvereferences" -- or,even better, to look for them yourself. Deletion is the last resort, per WP:Deletion policy. DGG (talk) 01:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA Nomination
I have always looked up to you especially when I first arrived here at Wikipedia back in February, and I have no doubt that you would make a good GREAT admin, you have been with wikipedia for over two years and I think that that is more than long enough to be a sysop :). So, if you wish to have a go at becoming an admin leave a note on my talk page :). All the Best, --Mifter (talk) 02:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * PMJ, although I'm not your coach I urge you to reject this. At this stage, it will fail, for the reasons Balloonman & I discussed a couple of weeks ago.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent  02:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ditto... all we will have to do is link to the discussions that we had with you.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 02:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, we wouldn't even have to do that... somebody else would do it before Iridescent or I realized you were at RfA.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 02:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just looked at the nom---it doesn't exist. All Mifter did was attached the template to this page.  He hasn't actually created the page yet.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 02:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

(My reply)

Hello Mifter

First of all I would like to thank you very much for attempting to nominate me, and I am glad I have had such an affect on you like the one you stated. At the moment I am refining my edits so a coach would be happy to do exactly that with me, and hopefully one day I will be an Administrator but I need more time to refine my edits and generally build up a good rapport as the selection process is stringent. At the moment I am sadly going to decline because of the above and advice from two Admins I have gone to in search of coaching, but one day in the near-ish future I would love to be able to accept your nomination. Many thanks again. Yours, Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 14:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
After determining you are an experienced and trusted user, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you do not want rollback, then contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some information on how to use rollback, you can view this page. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, just leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Happy editing! Malinaccier (talk) 23:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
 * Rollback can only be used to revert vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback may be removed at any time.

My Reply

Thank you very much, how kind of you. Many thanks, yours. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 16:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem! :) Malinaccier (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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moved to article talk page ninety:one 14:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Criminal Investigation Department‎
Hi. I'm concerned about a couple of things going on in this article related to you:

You've reverted a change once and twice. The editor clearly stated why he/she removed the sentence which was because it doesn't make sense and wasn't cited. The user was correct on both comments.

Then you reported the editor to AIV for what should have been clear to you was a good faith edit. Both Tan and I felt this was not vandalism. The user clearly has not been warned appropriately as an IP editor either. The editor hasn't been active in 2 days.

Upon looking further into this article, this does not appear to be vandalism, rather a good faith edit. I suspect the term applies to both Indian and UK police.

Please WP:AGF. It has become a problem. Toddst1 (talk) 15:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Kew Constabulary
I've reverted this edit to Kew Constabulary, as it contained some glaring inaccuracies. I know this was a good faith edit, but please be careful with things like this. Although the article was uncited, all the above facts are easily checkable. I appreciate this is about as low priority an article as it's possible to get, but it's still important to check facts.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> – <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent 15:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) There is no such thing as a "Police Force" in the UK and has not been for some years; "Force" in the legal context has a specific meaning which no longer applies to police services.
 * 2) "Special" also has a specific meaning in law enforcement, and it's a meaning that does not apply to KC, which is not a "Special Police Force" but a fully-fledged constabulary (albeit a small one).
 * 3) KC is responsible for policing Kew Gardens, rather than for law enforcement. (Picky I know, but this article was carefully worded.) The force areas of KC and the Metropolitan Police Service overlap, and the MPS has ultimate responsiblity for law enforcement.
 * 4) The "while on duty" is not correct; under UK law, as police are office holders rather than employees, they have police powers whether on duty or not provided they are in the area to which their warrant applies (in the case of most constabularies, this is England/Wales, Scotland or NI; in KC's case it's within a 3 mile radius of the gardens).
 * 5) There was no "POV" to the article it was written. I assume you're referring to the "rarely use their powers" by this; that is not a value judgement but a statement of fact — by longstanding agreement, any significant policing activity in the gardens is provided by the MPS (as stated in the article).
 * 6) KC are not responsible for policing the "immediate surrounding area", as you state. Their responsibility is within the gardens; the "three mile radius" is to allow them to pursue suspects out of their force area if necessary.

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 * I have finished editing Talk:Baton charge. Hold your horses a minute while I edit, please. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)