User talk:Ponyo/Archive 47

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 * , editors are allowed to blank most content from their user talk pages. See WP:BLANKING.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:52, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand the whole blanking thing but one would think that the blocks should remain. Oh well they weren't here to contribute anyways Mr Xaero   ☎️ 19:56, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree that it would make sense, but adding current block notices to the list of things that cannot be removed has been discussed previously and there has never been consensus to modify policy to include it.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:58, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Zendaya vandalism
Hi, Ponyo. I noticed you recently blocked for block evasion. I assume this is the same Zendaya/Dove Cameron vandal that has been active recently. Do you know if there is a SPI for this user? If not, would I be able to let you know when I see them come back? – Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 21:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of an SPI. Feel free to ping me if you see them pop up again.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:39, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The IP user is back with the same vandalism. I also reported them to AIV. – Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 12:28, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Regarding...
...this, - yes, it's trolling. It's the same MO that character has been using for years. Standard practice is to revert on sight. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:49, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

LTA of some sort
Hello Ponyo. I saw your edit summary about this. Whoever they are they've been asking these questions for a few years now. They've been posting questions about TV shows at the ref desks and user talk pages. I don't know if there is an LTA for them somewhere. If there isn't I don't know if one would be useful. I suspect you are aware of this but wanted to let you know what I've observed just in case. Best wishes to ya. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah I see Bugs got here before me so I'll make this a subsection of his post :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I've come across them before, but I'll certainly recognize them moving forward. Thanks, and .--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Tubalcain rollback
THANK YOU for the explanation. It makes tons of sense. If that was the reason for the original rollback and it'd been in the comment, I'd've accepted it on the spot. You're a champ.
 * Riventree (talk) 22:36, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The guidelines for DAB pages are quite unique and many editors are unaware of their intended use. It's all part of the learning process here, which never really ends.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:40, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

New accounts
Hi JP, is it just me or are there a lot more new accounts than usual signing up today? I'm not sure if it's normal or not, but if one scans Recent changes he'll see them coming in at a good clip. A minority have engaged in COI editing or vandalism, maybe that is to be expected. I'm also not sure if there's a pattern in the choice of names or not. StonyBrook (talk) 22:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I have a number of filters set up on recent changes, so I rarely view the raw feed. I'm not sure if there are more account creations than usual at the moment. Are there any that you find specifically concerning?-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Some egregious names and some obvious (or more subtle) COIs were promptly blocked. Some of the others were welcomed but there were a lot more who probably weren't (or the bot will). All caps or trailing letters were left alone. StonyBrook (talk) 22:59, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

WOW
I was just looking at being a possible sock, and I see you have just blocked it. How did you figure it out? Just curious. Thank you.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:17, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * And Erika Mansilver too! You are my hero today, thanks for the speedy service. The socks seem to have a new "I am just a good faith naive nobody who happened along and would like to help" routine. It must be in the "editing WP for profit" manual.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:20, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The edit summary "Previous Account" kept popping up in a recent changes filter I keep an eye on. Lo and behold...-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:24, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I was literally on the way to file an SPI. SPECTACULAR! Thanks.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:25, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That's why they pay me the big bucks!-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:28, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ha! A truly sincere thank you for expediting that task so beautifully.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:30, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You did all the heavy lifting, I just swept up after. Thanks for all you do here.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:33, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay
I need help, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:569:7CF0:9300:A47E:5CD:254B:F95 there is this user that is being accused of being me cause in the past I did those account thingies. But Im not that user, I have tried to behave and am very angry. Can you confirm this is not me with the fact you can look at ips and stuff like that and you are the only person I know, who knows my Ip address. I want to cleared.--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:19, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Checkusers cannot run checks on editors who request it (see WP:Checkuser). Behaviourally, I don't see any reason to believe that IP would be you. There's some article overlap, but they appear to be disagreeing with you. And, no offense, but they're more articulate. Who's saying you're the same person?-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:30, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dunkleosteus77 this guy, you know the person you tasked with telling on me or something--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:34, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't "task" anyone withe anything regarding your account. If believes that you are violating WP:SOCK, they can file an an SPI report.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:40, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

I see, sorry about that. But yeah can you talk to him about that account not being me?--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:54, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know that the IP is not you, I just noted that, after a quick review, it doesn't stand out to me behaviourally. These types of investigations are handled at SPI, which is where Dunkleosteus77 would need to present their evidence if they want to accuse of you WP:SOCK violations.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:58, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

well its only him, so I mean I would just ignore it. Elmide is one but I dont care about him/her anymore. Maybe I should not keep feeding him, It will make everything worse. I can go on with life. I mean as long as I know its not me, I could not care less, I also think its important to stop thinking about one person, he can complain (making conspiracies on the way) and say some Canadian (he provided the information about the users IP) user is me. But thanks for the help and clarification. I will keep on editing and trying to be a better person and making this site a better place. --Bubblesorg (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * What you describe above is called "dropping the stick" around these parts and will do wonders for avoiding getting caught up in conflicts and edit warring drama.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:10, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Yup, and I think its a great strategy.--Bubblesorg (talk) 21:15, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Blocked IP making disruptive edits to own talkpage
Hi Ponyo. The IP that you blocked a couple of days ago for their disruptive editing of Arron Banks is editing their own talkpage in a disruptive manner - see this. I don't know if this is sufficient to warrant removing their access to their own talkpage, but even if not it would seem prudent for an admin to keep an eye on activity there. Thanks. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:02, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This is Ponyo's PA. I've revoked TPA for the range.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:29, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Watch 37.36.105.212 for me, would ya?
Hey Pon,

I seem to have noticed that the IP account for User talk:37.36.105.212 made a rather nonconstructive edit to the page for the PM of Kuwait. I have sent him a little reversion notice, yet as an admin I would like you to watch his page so that I can focus on editing constructively. Once I get admin status (if ever) we can work together so that no more disruptive edits are made by this user.

Thanks,

SamRathbone (chat mi mwan)  15:34, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Controversies on user biographies
You said and I quote

"Siihb, per policy we avoid the creation of controversy sections in biography articles, instead integrating such content into the body of the article. Your edit warring behaviour to restore a separate controversy section is disruptive and needs to stop"

However if I go to the pages of Brett Kavanaugh or Donald Trump those both have controversy sections. "Controversies involving Russia" for example.

Why is this behavior inconsistent? Please note that I am preparing a story on paid wikipedia editing that prompted all of this in the first place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siihb (talk • contribs) 20:58, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Did you read WP:CRIT? It explains clearly when controversy sections may be acceptable in an article subject to editorial discretion and consensus. Your attempt to highlight a specific incident by removing it from within the article prose into a separate controversy section violates WP:UNDUE and is disruptive. Perhaps your future article and reader(s) would be better served if you took the time to read through the various policies and guidelines others are attempting to explain to you as opposed to attempting to right what you perceive to be great wrongs regarding content.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:09, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

I actually did read it and I quote "For a specific controversy that is broadly covered in reliable sources." Which that was. Additionally "The topic of the controversy is best named in the section title (when there are distinct groups of controversies, the section title can be "Controversies", with subsection titles indicating what these are about)."

Which this is. Now would you like to revisit your position? Clearly the wikipedia guidelines are being followed here in my case, not in the case of the paid Huffman page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siihb (talk • contribs) 21:25, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The controversy was not broadly covered in reliable sources; it's sourced to a Vice article. Are you seriously comparing a single reddit thread incident to the myriad controversies related to the current President of the United States? Your attempt to add the separate section to highlight this one incident in order to portray Hoffman in the worst light possible runs completely afoul of our policies regarding living persons and neutrality. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:50, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Linked the dispute btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Steve_Huffman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siihb (talk • contribs) 21:32, 25 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello Ponyo. In case you haven't seen it this editor's user page User:Siihb is being used to cast WP:ASPERSIONS. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen it and warned them about making such claims here. I'm sure I'll be added to list of PR hacks censoring the Steve Huffman article from content...that already appears in the article verbatim. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:09, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Bmatthewsmsu35
I changed block to NLT indef for this user. Made legal threat against you after your block. User opened a new account and vandalized the same school article, and threatened more vandalism. Article semi-protected. -- Alexf(talk) 13:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update, .-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:16, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Not for nothing, but in looking at this cat's name reminds me of something. Michigan State University's (actually all Michigan state schools, not just MSU) IP range begins with 35, and I have directly experienced much vandalism from MSU's IP's. John from Idegon (talk) 19:07, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Sepehr.Sǎsǎni
Please revoke talk page access. There's no good coming from it. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 20:07, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The helpful beat me to it. It's not surprising that Sepehr.Sǎsǎni has also been blocked with talk page access revoked on their home wiki.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:03, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

User right
Sir, I had requested for conformed, made for Pending Changes reviewer and Rollbacker but you do not see the contribution of others, if you cannot give me any member rights then you can only give rights to Auto conformed user.Vivek ji123 (talk) 01:22, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what message you're trying to convey.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Joe Scarce
User talk:JoeScarce

Hi,

I was wondering whether you'd seen this gentleman's response to your block message. I've just had some fairly unpleasant comments from this chap and, you know what, I just have this feeling his wiki career will end in tears. Would you mind having a look at his recent comments. WCM email 01:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I saw, but it was pretty tame in comparison to what is usually thrown my way. Given they've been blocked again between your message above and my response today, you could very well be right regarding their account longevity.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:02, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I type slow on my phone. Thanks, P.John from Idegon (talk) 19:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Request
Can you please unblock the IP range of 2606:a000:fc11:7400::/64? I checked with them and they're innocent. They promised to source their content from now on. 98.24.238.45 (talk) 21:45, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I think someone else just made Santa's Floq's naughty list.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Revert Undo?
Hi, why did you revert the undo I did earlier? I think spouse and number of children is useful information. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imran_Chaudhri&oldid=prev&diff=924788921&diffmode=source —Flicky1984 (talk) 00:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I thought my edit summary was quite clear. The infobox is meant to be a quick overview of article content; we don't include personal information in an infobox that is not supported by reliably sourced article content. In addition, you restored the "religion" parameter was removed from the template itself in 2016 .-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 00:49, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I actually didn't see any edit summary. Which makes me think that I do not know how to view those if they're not automatically presented on the article history page. So I'll look into that. —Flicky1984 (talk) 13:59, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You can view all edit summaries in the article history. If an edit or revert seems odd to you, checking the article history may shed some light. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:37, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. I'm not seeing much in the way of edit summaries on that page, perhaps I have a different theme? https://i.imgur.com/pxYdWk1.png —Flicky1984 (talk) 12:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * How strange! You should definitely be seeing edit summaries when viewing page histories. The entire point of leaving an edit summary is to allow other editors to know why you made specific changes to an article (see how it's supposed to work here). Do you see the edit summary under my username in this diff? That's what should also appear in the article history. Maybe leave a note at the Village Pump? -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Nonstop socking
This longstanding sock is back again. This one too, and intersects with Uricnobel in Ashok Vemuri and Srinivas Kandula with same edit summary. 137.97.115.232 (talk) 16:57, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I blocked both and  as Padmalakshmisx socks. They were ✅ from Padma sock .--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * When there's socking involved at an AfD the sooner you can put a lid on it, the better.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Obamium
The user immediately recreated this page. ubiquity (talk) 20:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yup. Now re-deleted and IP blocked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:45, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

IPM Deleted Page
I am not getting compensated for the page I am creating for IPM. Will you please undo the delete to the IPM page? I put a lot of work into it and can't see any of my edits or citations. BdilleyIPM (talk) 00:58, 8 November 2019 (UTC)BdilleyIPM
 * Your username makes your affiliation with IPM clear. There is an inherent conflict of interest with your edits and you should not be attempting to create an article on your company. In addition, the article cannot be restored as it was a blatant copyright violation. You lifted a large amount of content from your company's website and pasted it into your sandbox. The copyright policy violation was noted in the welcome message I left on your page. Please do read through both WP:COI and WP:COPYRIGHT. Thank you, -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:36, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

I thought there was a "thanks" button on logged actions like blocking...
...but I guess not. This will have to substitute. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Have you heard of "quid pro quo"? It's all the rage these days! Could you protect this for a spell? It has attracted an LTA troll.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Can I have my $400 million now? --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! As soon as I get my Wikimedia Foundation cheque covering 12 years, 7 months, and 11 days of unpaid labour.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:34, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Admin Request
You wouldn't mind making me an admin, would you? TheRuleObeyer (talk) 00:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * [sprinkling fairy dust] You're blocked! --Bbb23 (talk) 00:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Bigpeen27
If it's of any interest to you, I was thinking of asking for someone to do what you did, but you got there first. As for the user name change, do you know I am so incredibly naive I hadn't even thought of it, but of course you are right. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You live in a world of AGF whereas I'm jaded and cynical. I envy you! -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:12, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Yeet
Greetings. Can you recreate that page as a redirect to Koe Yeet? It's her surname, but should probably still be protected because it's also a meme and thus an obvious vandal target. Geolodus (talk) 15:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure that simply having the last name Yeet is reason enough to create the redirect. Per WP:LEAST, redirects and similar guidance pages should only point to pages where the reader would expect to land upon clicking a link or searching a title. I don't think the majority of our readers would expect to be taken to the Koe Yeet article when they search "yeet", and sending them to her article would likely just expose this BLP subject to significant vandalism. Perhaps you could drop a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect to see what others think? -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:12, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

LTA issues
Can someone please Semi-Protect my talk page for another 6 months? Some LTAs came back soon after the last round of protection expired, and they've been vandalizing my talk page ever since. (I think it's primarily the same LTA, MRY.) It appears to be the same LTA from before. The IP edits were either involved in rolling back vandalism or contributing to the mess (in the case of IP socks). Thanks.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 19:26, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * was quicker than me. I guess I'll have to find another way to meet my admin quota for the day! -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:30, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for dealing with and the other(s). I was catching some serious stink off of that account and it looked like there was some promo stuff happening at Ashi Singh and Randeep Rai. Any chance is related in any way? They asked Ashdeepx to add a photo, but were also editing those articles. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:03, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * There are only three edits recent enough to go on, and they don't match the range the other ones were mucking about on. The extended confirmed I added to the Singh and Rai articles will hopefully help limit the disruption. You know how it is however, you take care of one group and another pops up in its place to continue the cycle. Sigh.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:07, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

is there an SPI?
Is there an SPI I can reference on your BANREVERT of this CU block? I'm seeing multiple IP tunnel edits, some the same as in this article. It certainly looks like the same editor. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:46:4481:18B0:81F5:19F8:5078:B2BD and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:46:4481:18B0:2C8D:7B1F:77BA:22F3 Meters (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Since that's a CheckUser block, she's very unlikely to connect it to an SPI since we are not allowed to connect IPs to accounts based off of CU evidence. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:30, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Meters (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * TonyB is correct, I can't link to an SPI or master without getting my knuckles rapped very sharply.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:19, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

You've blocked him before. We've both seen this kind of attitude in editors before, this inability to onboard advise. Does it ever work out? Not in my experience. John from Idegon (talk) 18:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Clearly felt the same.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

UPE
Hi there, I think is engaging in UPE. There have been some bizarre coincidences that he's been involved in. Like, I had a problem at Harshad Chopda with Dimpletisha socks routinely trying to force in the Asian Viewers Television Award. There was no article on this award, so no presumed notability. Back and forth, back and forth, then boom, Noormohammad satya creates the article. I brought him up in a Dimpletisha SPI, but that didnt go anywhere, and whoa, I literally just discovered Sockpuppet_investigations/Noormohammed_satya/Archive while I was typing this to you. Also, why is some IP building an article on his talk page and who's that other guy who's trying to communicate with him on Whatsapp? Very stinky. Verrrrrry stinky. Also Bonadea just threw a warning on his page for creating Zee Classic (TV Channel) after Zee Classic had been salted. Some IP user made the request on his talk page. From the look of things, he creates the article, then some IP jumps in to flesh it out. Note this where he is removing content, probably to hide the details of the request from his talk page. Per the text at the top of the comment, the IP feels that if they create it, it will be deleted. Certainly feels like coordinated agenda editing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:19, 3 December 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  23:39, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The incessant UPE and socking in this topic area led me to take an extended Wikibreak early last year. Noormohammad satya has a history of socking and was blocked by for doing so, but was given another chance. I think if there continues to be significant overlap of creating articles targeted by UPE groups and doing so upon the request of anon IPs who are prevented from creating the articles themselves, it will be hard to maintain the good faith that was extended. There is a new(ish) email queue for checkuser/UPE investigation that you can use if you have evidence you don't think should be disclosed via SPI (paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org). On an unrelated note, they have waaaaayyyy too much personal info on their user page.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:32, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , I find his blanking of the IPs' posts to be a further point of complicity and have blocked him. I deleted many of the more recent uploads and proxied creations. We can no longer trust him.
 * Thanks, mate. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks Berean Hunter. A well-placed ping can work wonders. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:47, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I wish in my heart of hearts that there were a blanket heavy-weight policy that anybody who looks like a paid editor could be blocked immediately, kinda like how we have those heavy ARBCOM sanctions that I know nothing about. "Undisclosed Paid Editing is seriooos business, blah blah, discretionary sanctions!" Like here's another person who just shows up and pastes entire articles about fringe people and films. And then one of our eagle-eyed editors thinks socking is involved, but that doesn't pan out, even though we know that this user is probably up to something... Anyway, don't do anything about this new person. I haven't looked that closely into their work. BUT SOMETHING IS FISHY! Just wish I could go around hitting everything with hammers, sometimes. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:55, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , the amount of blood, sweat and tears you put into this topic area cannot be overstated, nor my gratitude for your efforts. So a huge THANK YOU from me!-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You too! You work harder than I, I am certain. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:46, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * 100% totally with absolute certainty always agree that you both are hugely helpful around all of this. Thank you for the special effort you all put in this rather ugly area of Wikipedia.  Ravensfire  (talk) 22:42, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:44, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Your contributions, vandal-fighting and overall dedication to integrity are hugely helpful as well! Please join the hug club! Now while I have both of your attentions... I'm looking at this guy, who too has the aroma... It's yet another editor who conveniently doesn't understand all of our guidelines and policies, yet is cranking out the hits. I asked him how he could possibly hold ownership of File:Hariprriya.jpg, when it's clearly taken by someone called Pran Udiyana if you were to follow the Twitter link. OK, OK, maybe that's an invasive personal question, which is why they deleted it. But then they deleted my other admonishment for fabricating information. And yet weirdly, they kept the comment from the very suspicious St. Petersburg IP-hopper who seems to influence lots of these (cough cough) perfectly legitimate accounts. Thoughts? Am I just being paranoid? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:29, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I've blocked Shreyashv26 for promotional editing and for very likely being another UPE account. As I noted in the block log there is cross over with other UPE sock groups such Nagendra NJ, and there are also some promotional logged-out edits.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:44, 5 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi P, I think we've got a flare-up of the same issue. I see and  editing in tandem at Hariprriya. HV tries to add Hariprriya.jpg, which we discussed above and which has been deleted. He again tries here and here, which prompts Poshith to upload it about 12 minutes after Hv2604's last attempt, if I'm reading the log correctly. Poshith also removed COI and Advertisement templates from the page, which is stinky as well. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I've blocked as  as extremely  socks of each other, who in turn are  . Maybe EC protection is needed for Hariprriya? Though it has been useful as a honeypot for this group. --  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:27, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll defer ECing. I think you're right about the honeypot. If you look at this article, wanna guess where that IP geolocates? Hmmm? Hmmm? I'll give you a hint: It's St. Petersburg, Russia. Doh! Spoiler! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:40, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Poof! It's gone.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:51, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Edgar181
You are just as surprised as me re today's block by Checkuser evidence. Per the user's recently added section, I am familiar with a couple of names on there. Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 21:43, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm familiar with a number of the names there. It's mind boggling.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:45, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sweet Jesus.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:06, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Iknowrite?-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:14, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know how long you keep e-mail, but if, like me, you never throw anything electronic away, look at an e-mail from me dated February 8, 2017. I'll write ArbCom about it tomorrow (too tired to do it tonight, and it will keep). I'm a bit pissed at myself because I neglected to record the others in my notes.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:24, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Holy moly, I steered you away from digging too deep in that exchange! Not the first time I've been bit in the ass by AGF, but certainly the consequences were more pronounced in this instance.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:50, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course it was all your fault. Seriously, I thought your "guess" was plausible, and, besides, who would've thunk it? I always thought of him as one of our more mild-mannered admins. It just didn't seem in character. And I pride myself on being a good judge of character, but I suppose even I, the Supreme Executive Assistant of Ponyo, can be wrong.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:05, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, if there is a bright side to all this, at least I got to see 's name pop up in my watchlist and notifications!-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was as shocked as everyone else when I noticed the announcement in my watchlist. I saw lots of things over the years that made me wonder. I don't recall anything to do with Edgar181, but I know that I used heaps of AGF elsewhere on occasion. Anyway, Happy Holidays, y'all! —DoRD (talk)​ 18:06, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Seeing DoRD’s name pop up on a watchlist is the highlight of any wikiday. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:08, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, y'all may like to see DoRD's name pop up, but not me. It just reinforces how much I miss having him around on a regular basis doing his usual exemplary work.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:10, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

UPE?
Undisclosed paid editing? Brand new user has dropped 5 new articles in 2 hours. At No. 1 Kodalu, he copy/pasted "boasts of a strong ensemble cast ... among others" from this. Kind of has the stink to me... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:57, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And they figured out how to enable gadgets such as Shortdesc helper within their first handful of edits. Any ideas for a master?-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:17, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Never mind - CU returned a whack of UPE accounts. Stay tuned.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * See Sockpuppet investigations/MohammedS2221.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:33, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow! If I were to start deleting some of those articles, I don't suppose I could do it under G5 for blocked user, what about G11 for unambiguous advertising? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:09, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * G5 would apply if I could tie the group to another promo sock farm with blocked accounts, but I couldn't. The ranges are so large, dynamic and varied it makes linking anything very difficult and time consuming. I imagine could pull a rabbit out of a hat here, but not this lowly CU. G13 is the only option at this point.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:24, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry to disappoint but... --Bbb23 (talk) 22:56, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Cue the music...-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:03, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * G13 doesn't seem right--that's for stale drafts. Did you mean G11? Not trying to be a pain, just want to help and do it right so nobody yells at me. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Gah! G11, of course. I'd have remembered it if it was a more exciting criteria, like a G6.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 00:19, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * LOL! Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:43, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, Noormohammad Satya edited Virgin Bhasskar one of the articles created by this sock ring. Coincidence? Who knows. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:51, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well I just ruined their day by deleting most of their crap advertising! One last thing: Should I buhlete the stuff generated from MohammadS2221? That was the only declared account, but this all seems part of a promotional effort. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:11, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Disregard. Taking a hint from Abba, I took a chance-took-a-chance-chance and scrubbed all of Mohammad's works. The declaration of paid editing doesn't sit well as fair play when he was subversively disregarding our policies and operating or orchestrating all these other accounts that were clearly promoting Zee5 crap. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:55, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Is related to this drawer? They asked me to restore George Reddy (film), claiming there was nothing promotion going on with it, but it was created by one of the undisclosed accounts. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:35, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * is active on one of the same ISPs as the ArthurCurry70 group above, but it's a large network filled with UPE and promo accounts. There is, however, a connection (editing from the same IP) between 96karuna and, who you encountered here and who stated " i work for that organisation and our daily work is like movie promotion and short films,distribution and tv shows and youtube channel.this we do on daily basis." in their block appeal.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:37, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing the term "possilikely" gets used due to the fact that the flip side is "likability" and that only applies on certain occasions and to certain people - like Ponyo and Cyphoidbomb and Bbb23 :-) Cheers to you all. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:47, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Awww.... and you too. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


 * P, just for some follow-up for my edification, if they declare to be paid, but they're going around creating articles about potentially non-notable topics in a way that looks like blatant advertising, is that permissible? I get that we do permit paid editors, but with this batch above, they were creating so much sprawl that it didn't smell ethical at all. Thoughts? Opinions from talk page stalkers welcome. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The paid editing disclosure is a requirement to even be allowed to edit the topics/articles they've disclosed and provides no special shield against review and deletion. They're still beholden entirely to WP:COI and WP:NOTPROMO. It's covered at Paid-contribution disclosure.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:27, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess I'm looking for validation or correction on my decision to delete those articles, since you're more experienced in the UPE area than I. To me, if someone comes here to create article sprawl related to their company or clients, that's advertising regardless or whether they're getting paid to or not and I personally have no qualms ruining their day by deleting their stuff. Is that an OK approach? I'm looking at the Silly Monks Studios and I'm hovering over G11 for unambiguous promotion, but could also see a practical reason to AFD it (so that others can decide that it's simply not notable.) Advice appreciated. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If they're following WP:COI, declared paid editing accounts should be using the AfC process to create their articles. The Silly Monks Studios in its current state would never make it through AfC and moved to article space. In this case WP:DRAFTIFY is a good option as it checks all of the boxes for a move to draft space.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:45, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Just discovered . Blocked as duck sock of ArthurCurry70. Attempted to paste bomb various drafts of articles previously deleted, plus a couple more. I deleted all articles. User might be worth a look. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Could be related to this ring? Something ain't right about him. I've seen him intersect several times with Noormohammed satya, who seems to be related to this Zee5 promotion ring. This sock MohammedS2221 seems like a candidate. Anyway, FascinateGuy is relatively new, he's been tinkering with his common.js file, early user page creation, he's rating his own articles, he's created several articles... this article is vitually all socks, having been created by a sock of Vc4137, although FascinateGuy has only made one edit there. So I mean, I'm not exactly sure what this guy's deal is, or who he might be, but I don't think he's actually a brand new user who has decided to leap headlong into the tricky world of Wikipedia editing.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:49, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Panipat1 sock
I am quite certain that the edit warring IP at the Battle of Saragarhi article is Panipat1 logged out. Is it necessary to file an SPI? --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:35, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No need to file an SPI as has now semi-protected the article. If you were to file one in the future, it should be done under Sockpuppet investigations/Mujhideen101.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

"Hello Dear" St. Petersburg
Hi P, do you collect IPs of that "Hello Dear" St. Petersburg person who's always soliciting n00bz to upload photos and create articles? If so, saw them again at 178.66.99.91. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I used to block them but gave up. The IPs were too dynamic and it was clearly having no effect.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:28, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

 * Thank you! Same to you MarnetteD!-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:42, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Many thanks P. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:55, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Likely sockpuppet
User talk:Marnie_Hawes whom you blocked is now editing under the name User talk:Fallen_Joseph. See the first three edits of these two accounts. They have again not disclosed their COI with respect to Rocky De La Fuente. 2401:4900:2185:29A4:3469:1707:474A:ED3E (talk) 12:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Obvious sock, now blocked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm also suspicious of Special:Contributions/Humaira Hafsah - she has a Bangladeshi female name (Marnie Hawes claimed to be a Bangladeshi woman on her userpage), and she racked up 10 edits and immediately started editing Rocky de la Fuente and Rocky De La Fuente 2020 presidential campaign. I was going to wait until there was more evidence to file a SPI, but I've just seen this, so thought I'd bring it up here... SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 18:17, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I've blocked that account as well as another obvious sock. Note both accounts in this thread have been using (now blocked) webhosts and VPNs to try to cover their tracks.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:33, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I see you page-protected Rocky's page; it might also make sense to protect Rocky De La Fuente 2020 presidential campaign, as that page on the same general topic was also being edited by the blocked accounts. --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:37, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I took a look at the history and didn't see the same level of disruption as at Rocky De La Fuente, so I decided to watchlist and monitor the page for a bit instead of semi-protecting. It will act as a bit of a honeypot as well. Should the socking there become persistent I'll definitely apply some protection.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:41, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Along this line, have you taken a look at user:Jacques Talon?? A recent editor with a fairly short contribution list, most of which are either directly de la Fuente-related or pages de la Fuente is mentioned on. Between that and the don't-merge !vote in regard to the De La Fuente pages, sockhood seems a possibility. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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Dimpletisha / KaranSharma0445?
Hi P, there's been a recent flare-up of idiotic edit-warring at Bepannah. Often in these TV articles it winds up being Dimpletisha and KaranSharma0445, but I don't know if any of the recent ones are either and if they are, which is which? The main actors are, a new SPA and. Em231par was brought to the edit-warring board but I haven't done anything with them yet. for Is this something you can suss out, please? And if not, no probs. It's a bad time of year for sockpuppetry. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:47, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not sure who these accounts are. They're not Dimpletisha though.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:34, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Weird. I'm at a loss, then. Thanks for looking! Hope you're enjoying a cup of cocoa, and if not, what do you have against cocoa? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It's still early here, so it's tea. The cocoa will come later, though I may skip it all together and go straight for a Hot toddy.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:55, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Panipat1 sock(s)?
Sorry to re-hash this issue, but did you run an SPI on Panipat1? I noticed another editor,, that made the exact same edit on Battle of Saragarhi that Panipat1 made.CorrectionalFacility, Panipat1&Panipat1 --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:45, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Beahviourally diverges from the master (Sockpuppet investigations/Mujhideen101) to a significant enough degree that I was going to decline to check it. However, the edits at Battle of Saragarhi and the username were just enough to raise the possibility that the master account only had intermittent access to this account, hence the behvaioural anomalies. The accounts are ❌.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. Sorry to have bothered you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No bother at all, ! -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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