User talk:Ponyo/Archive 62

Up for a quickcheck?
Hi Ponyo. You did the last CU check on around Nov 2022. Would you be willing to take a look at ? There's a big topic overlap with the prior socks and similar behaviors in the editing. -- ferret (talk) 01:01, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Drmies, @NinjaRobotPirate would either of you be willing to peak as Ponyo is currently busy IRL? -- ferret (talk) 23:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * DNAVIRAL is probably User:TotalTruthTeller24. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey Ponyo, have fun IRL! Drmies (talk) 00:43, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I wish I had been having fun, but I pinched a nerve in my back and was out of service for nearly a week. Feeling better now though!-- Ponyo bons mots 18:00, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear this. See, in my case old age is always an excuse. DYK I just had surgery for a hernia? Very exciting! I have a new scar! Take care, Drmies (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh no! No more skimpy bikinis for you!-- Ponyo bons mots 21:12, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Birthday, but no birth year
Hi, seeing as that you're an admin I thought I might ask you this, I was wondering if someone's birthday has a reliable source, but no source anywhere for the year, is it okay to put just the former down? Kcj5062 (talk) 08:01, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * In my view, this is not an admin question. However, my answer is no. Just the month and day someone is born is generally not noteworthy (I suppose there might be some rare exceptions). Occasionally I have seen editors add this to BLPs, and I have reverted the edits. Thus far, I haven't clashed with anyone on the issue, but no doubt I've just been lucky. Not that your opinion matters, of course, but what do you think, Ponyo? BTW, I myself wasn't born in December, and I wasn't born on the 21st day of any month. I think that should be added to my article.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Just the day and month doesn't impart any notable information to a BLP, so my inclination would be to exclude it from the article. I would, however, likely make note of the day and month with the corresponding sourcing on the article talk page as it would be helpful to have the sources on hand should additional information regarding the birth year be published. Given that Bbb23 agrees with me, he's clearly linking to the wrong article in his post above.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:11, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Let's get this straight. I don't agree with you; you agree with me, which demonstrates a high degree of intelligence and perspicacity, whatever that means.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:22, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm perspictastic!-- Ponyo bons mots 16:30, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

You
You've been an admin since 2011 (comment at RfA)? Only one year before I became an admin? So, how come you're so much better at it than I am? And don't tell me it's because you're perspictastic. New sections require new humor. Seriously, for some reason I assumed you'd been an admin significantly longer than I have. [after self-imposed pause] Just looked at your RfA. Only one oppose. Pretty damned good. Should've been unanimous as the oppose was lame, not to mention a bit xenophobic, which is ironic, considering that Xeno closed your RfA as successful, or was it réussi?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding the oppose, I've thought about changing the bon mots bit in my signature a few times over the years and then I remember that I worked hard to keep to keep those two little words. That says a lot about me (mainly that I'm stubborn and can hold a grudge long past its 'sell by' date) .-- Ponyo bons mots 17:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Those are certainly characteristics I look for in an admin. I'm holding off supporting the latest RFA until I'm more confident they, too, can hold a grudge for a long time. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:01, 7 July 2023 (UTC) (p.s. you're both noob admins)
 * It comes in extra handy with the CU bit.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:04, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I was never able to talk you into running for somewhere your memory would be useful, though. Courcelles (talk) 18:13, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There are only so many circles of hell I'm willing to tour.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:15, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Bah! I guess the old AUSC was the closest circle I could ever convince you to come and visit. You are definitely smarter than I am. Courcelles (talk) 18:22, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * AUSC had a trap door in the floor that led to Circles #3 and #4.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:41, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Request for protection on spammed article
Hi Ponyo, I wanted to ask if you or another administrator wouldn’t mind protecting the article “Disney Digital 3-D” to allow only extended registered users to edit it? There has been persistent spamming from unregistered users as of late. Any help would be appreciated. (Reposted because I forgot the title). Thanks,

DESERTSCHo0L20 (talk) 00:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)DESERTSCHo0L20
 * The level of disruption doesn't meet the threshold for protection. If this changes, you can make a request at WP:RFPP.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. I saw that someone came to protect the page, so all as well!
 * DESERTSCHo0L20 (talk) 03:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)DESERTSCHo0L20

ScienceAdvisor UPE
Without disclosing anything you shouldn't, can you advise me concerning who you blocked? The comment states reasons checkuser and UPE. I'd like the information to help me determine if their creations could be G5-eligible based on a prior block. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:29, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As ScienceAdvisor is tagged as the master account, G5 would not apply. The articles has to have been created in violation of a block or ban, and SA wasn't evading a block or ban (that we know of) when they edited. Any articles/pages created by ScienceAdvisor's socks would be eligible if they were created after SA's original block on March 2, 2023.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:43, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oof, of course. For some reason I thought your comment meant that there was a *previous* master. Just tired when I posted, I guess. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:22, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Followup - proxy
I'm a little lost who's who in this saga, but I noticed you blocked an IP as a proxy who edited this very same thread. I believe this is one of a VPN range and opened a WPOP case. Thought you might want to see. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:36, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Sock accounts of master sock Kamal Afghan01
You blocked sock account but looks like the same user is back with possibly two sock accounts and both editing same pages and interest in Afghan-Sikh Wars. These new sock account are and .192.189.187.106 (talk) 20:48, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * You’re fast, Ponyo… I was looking at diffs and I notice they’re tagged! Courcelles (talk) 21:07, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Pow pow!.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:09, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * He is back again with another sock accounts Surajsingh09 and RevolutionaryPatriot. The Contributions overlap with all previous sockaccounts of KamalAfghan01. See here. Clearly a duck.
 * and 71.27.92.193 (talk) 21:04, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * There are two more RTC710 and Khekom. How both take interest in making their first edits on a newly created article by sockpuppet Surajsingh09. See here and  71.27.92.193 (talk) 21:10, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * pinging Courcelles since Ponyo is on vacation.71.27.92.193 (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * in addition to information i provided above, Surajsingh09 also moved a draft page as regular article, originally created by sock master Kamal Afghan01. It was reverted back to draft by admin after the indef block of sockmaster but Surajsingh09 moved it back again.
 * See here.. It's quacking. 71.27.92.193 (talk) 22:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * RevolutionaryPatriot comes back as unrelated, otherwise sock drawer given a deep clean. Courcelles (talk) 23:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

- Welcome back from vacation. Hope you had a great time. Back to sockmaster who has striked again. And the new sock accounts are Shiva912, Semijan0 of sockmaster Kamal Afghan01. Battle of Bannu was created by sockmaster Kamal Afghan01 and his guranteed newly created sock account Shiva912 has shown interest on this page with similar editing patterns as that of his sockmaster. Shiva912, an account created on 25 August 2023 created a new page Malik Dilasa Khan which was a draft and just like his previous editing habits, he moved page Draft:Malik Dilasa Khan to Malik Dilasa Khan. While creating Malik Dilasa Khan, he also added exact same content from first paragraph of Battle of Bannu. This is another account that is very curious, Semijan0 because after account Shiva912 moved the page from Draft:Malik Dilasa Khan to Malik Dilasa Khan, Semijan0 went ahead and removed all the AFC draft tags from article Malike Dilasa Khan as seen here. Semijan0 was created on 18 August 2023. These two accounts are also very dubious as they are making same edits to the two pages created by sockmaster. These accounts are Shanglapar created on 26 August 2023 and Naruto Muslim, created on 29 July 2023. The editing pattern is same here as well, where the accounts just picks random unreliable and unverified sources to support the page. Not sure if its sock or meatpuppetry but account Pukhtun zalmai has taken sudden interest on article Battle of Bannu and especially Malik Dilasa Khan right after it was created as draft. Might want to look into this as well. Battle of Bannu article is full on unreliable sources and failed verification and along with Malik Dilasa Khan which too follows same pattern, these two pages should be deleted, created by sock accounts.170.170.200.150 (talk) 22:22, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * ccing incase  isn't available. 170.170.200.164 (talk) 11:53, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

My apologies for accidentally warning you
Hello, I'm Grumpylawnchair, and I'm really sorry that I accidentially warned you while using Huggle. I will not be using Huggle until I gain more experience with semi-automated tools. Again, I'm sorry for any inconvenience that my actions have caused. <span style="background-color:black; color:white; padding: 3px; Grumpylawnchair  ( talk ) 19:02, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand, mistakes happen. I've never used Twinkle, Huggle, or any of the many anti-vandalism scripts; you learn a lot when you memorize templates and make decisions based on the situation as opposed to what's available in a drop down menu. Not dissing the scripts, they're just not my preference.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:04, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I learned a lot memorizing templates too: I learned I have a bad memory, so I use Twinkle. I have accidentally warned users, including admins, but thankfully it's quite rare. Most editors are understanding about it as long as you rectify it as soon as you discover it. BilCat (talk) 00:11, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Declined AIV
about you're message on my talk page, people can just check the page history. Notrealname1234 (talk) 18:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, they can check the history, but they shouldn't have to. The bot removes the report at a set time for a reason, please don't override it unnecessarily. There is no reason for you to be attempting to clerk AIV.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:22, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, explain this? Notrealname1234 (talk) 18:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That was an admin removing stale declined reports after reviewing them as part of their process of reviewing cases. It was 40 minutes after my decline and there was plenty of time for the person who made the report to see why it was declined. --  Ponyo bons mots 19:03, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That is so it will stop showing there are pending AIV entries on my watchlist. I reviewed both of the reports, and as an uninvolved administrator agreeing with the declines I removed them for ease of patrolling. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Recent 4im warning discussion
Hi Ponyo, thanks for the information regarding using level 4im and 4 warnings recently, and sorry if I conveyed some wrong information to the IP there.

Thanks, 𝑭𝒊𝒍𝒎𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔 (talk) 19:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Your advice was obviously made entirely in good faith. -- Ponyo bons mots 19:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Carlin Glynn
I understand that social media websites are generally frowned upon as reflinks, although there are exceptions. (I read WP: INSTAGRAM.) In this case it appears there is a question regarding the Instagram account of Carlin Glynn's daughter, Mary Stuart Masterson.

The following URL is Masterson's confirmed Instagram account where she mentioned her mother's death on July 13. Is this not considered Masterson's confirmed Instagram account???

(https://www.instagram.com/p/CuukQr0uK5j/?img_index=1) (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuukQr0uK5j/).

I am sorry, I don't know how to take a screenshot but just want to be clear.

Thanks, 166.199.114.80 (talk) 17:56, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Confirmed Instagram accounts have a blue check next to the account name; the account you provide is not a confirmed account. -- Ponyo bons mots 18:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

block
Hi, if someone is blocked from a page, does that include the talk page? I have List of tallest people on my watch list and found this Knitsey (talk) 23:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The article talk page is generally left open for partial blocks so that the blocked editor can still discuss content concerns and potential edits. If the disruption spreads to the talk page, then it can be added to the partial block.-- Ponyo bons mots 23:09, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Lovely, thanks so much for the reply. I couldn't remember if it automatically applied to talk page. Thank you! Knitsey (talk) 23:13, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Sid McMath
Hello @Ponyo! Just wondering why you did not think my edit on the Sid McMath page was notable! An explanation would be appreciated and very very helpful :) LoudPorcupine797 (talk) 23:24, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Jim Lee Howell
Hello @Ponyo! Just wondering why you did not think my edit on the Jim Lee Howell page was notable! An explanation would be appreciated and very very helpful :) LoudPorcupine797 (talk) 23:26, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Billy Fleming
Hello @Ponyo! Just wondering why you did not think my edit on the Billy Fleming (landscape architect) page was notable! An explanation would be appreciated and very very helpful :) LoudPorcupine797 (talk) 23:27, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Steve Harrelson
Hello @Ponyo! Just wondering why you did not think my edit on the Steve Harrelson page was notable! An explanation would be appreciated and very very helpful :) LoudPorcupine797 (talk) 23:28, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Eddie Armstrong
Hello @Ponyo! Just wondering why you did not think my edit on the Eddie Armstrong page was notable! An explanation would be appreciated and very very helpful :) LoudPorcupine797 (talk) 23:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Warwick Sabin
Hello @Ponyo! Just wondering why you did not think my edit on the Warwick Sabin page was notable! An explanation would be appreciated and very very helpful :) LoudPorcupine797 (talk) 23:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

George Cole
Hello @Ponyo! Just wondering why you did not think my edit on the George Cole (American football) page was notable! An explanation would be appreciated and very very helpful :) LoudPorcupine797 (talk) 23:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)


 * A student body position doesn't merit an Infobox officeholder template. The information can be added to the relevant articles, assuming reliable sourcing criteria is met, but inclusion of an infobox intended for significant legislative positions is excessive. In addition, you added the infobox to articles where the information wasn't even included in the article itself. -- Ponyo bons mots 17:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Technopat
im not trying to do a edit war with him but it doesn't make sense that he is telling me to get a consensus to restore a page when there wasn't a consensus to delete it in tne first place when I asked him to talk because I wanted to know the whole reason why he ignored me I have no idea what to do so I have just resorted the pages Wwew345t (talk) 02:49, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * So you returned to edit warring on the same set of articles as soon as your block expired? You are edit warring against multiple editors to restore content that was merged to the appropriate list pages long ago. If you continue to edit war instead of discussing your concerns on the individual talk pages, you will likely find yourself blocked again. -- Ponyo bons mots 17:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Ponyo: Sorry to bother you here, but just for the record, and making use of my right to reply, I'd like to point out that, despite Wwew345t's accusation above, I was not wilfully ignoring him/her: I was blissfully sleeping since logging out late last night, local time. On logging on this morning, local time, I saw several alerts waiting for me and immediately replied to the user's two messages on my talk page. I then checked the remaining alerts, which led me to leave a final message on his/her talk page, the gist of which was that I considered those messages downright rude and that s/he had simply continued with the edit warring, despite several warnings. It was with that last message that I expressed my intention to have no further contact with this user. In other words, to "ignore" him/her. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 11:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

User:S201050066 number 73.4
New user which I believe is a sock of who was blocked, has since harassed another editor. I'm so sorry that I don't have all the details yet as I'm just looking for the SPI report. Can you take a look please? Knitsey (talk) 23:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok, you're quicker than the speed of light. Knitsey (talk) 23:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Those blooming brackets!!! Sorry Knitsey (talk) 23:04, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

G5 deletion of Draft:Godwin Izomor
Ponyo, on the draft you deleted: From its creation in Feb 2020 until the sock edited it a week back, the draft saw no socking. The sock just made 4 minor edits in a space of one hour. G5 would not apply, however you may want to re-delete it back as a technical G13. In other words, as if the restoration never happened, and Gbesimi Samuel or anyone else should be able to ask for the refund. Jay 💬 04:41, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * My thinking on this is that it was restored at the request of a confirmed sock, which is akin to the sock having recreated the draft. I tried to be clear in my edit summary as well. To me it seems overly bureaucratic to restore and immediately re-delete the draft as G13. No worries if you want to do it, but I don't think it's necessary in this one specific instance.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:04, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Thumbs Up!
I have observed and shadowed multiple Wikipedia admins, and to be honest you are one of the few who sticks exactly to the rules, and doesn't pull underhanded tricks(like getting articles deleted by posting deletion notice in talk page of another linked article whose talk page has been inactive for years). So thanks, for contributing to the Wikipedia, and a thumbs up from an insignificant person! 117.197.254.209 (talk) 15:57, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I think? It doesn't read so much that I'm doing something good so much as insinuate that others are doing something wrong. But ok.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:59, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Nice to be shadowed, huh? I mean, really, I hope you're not paying much money to get editors to lavish praise on you. I usually pay them conditionally, you know, like if you do a good job, I might send you a carrot.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:24, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I haven't been very praise worthy these days; incredibly busy preparing for a trip to the other Island (watch out, here I come!).-- Ponyo bons mots 19:59, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll go sweep the bridge! Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ha! I'll be sure to let you know if it passes inspection. NB: I expect a fresh pot of steamed mussels upon arrival.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:38, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

This might be a problem?
, see user page. They're adding notability tags to articles. I could be wrong of course. Knitsey (talk) 19:51, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks like someone is on it. Sorry to have bothered you. Knitsey (talk) 19:54, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Meow... Indeffed as LTA. Courcelles (talk) 19:58, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Ban evader is back
Hello Ponyo. I wanted to alert you to Sockpuppet investigations/Andrew5, where an editor (well-known sockmaster) you previously temp blocked for ban evading back in February 2023 has been re-reported for editing once again today on the IP-address without an appeal. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Normally I'd call this stale as the IP hasn't edited in a week, but they've been active on that IP for 2.5 years, so I've reblocked.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:50, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

72.69.36.4
Could you check on this IP's edits? They started editing straight after your 1-year CU block recently expired. IDK who they are, but I just came across some disruption from them in the filter log. Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:F60:8567:519F:32E2:F52B (talk) 05:43, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ponyo's on vacation (or holiday as she would put it), but I've blocked the IP for another year for block evasion. It took a lot of digging to figure out the named sockmaster whose block the IP is evading, but I'm fairly certain it's .--Bbb23 (talk) 12:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :-) 2601:1C0:4401:F60:7C72:5877:80EB:F896 (talk) 20:09, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

New message for you
Thank you for everything you do you are awesome! 98.235.155.81 (talk) 22:02, 16 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I also see you are on vacation have a nice one. 98.235.155.81 (talk) 22:06, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I struggled a bit with this, but I've blocked 98. for another year and, at the same time, blocked Special:contributions/2601:981:4401:1CC0:0:0:0:0/64 (same person) for a year, duplicating your blocks from 2022. They are very strange as editors go. Can you tell me whether they are related to a named account without telling me who? Or is it just a case of disruption and IP jumping? I know you won't be able to reply until you return. I hope you enjoyed your holiday.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:29, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ponyo, unless you have special insight, checking that IPv4 address and IPv6 /64 will not be illuminating to anything. There’s nothing there. Courcelles (talk) 14:10, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If there's one thing I hate, it's non-illuminating IPs. BTW,, Ponyo has lots of "special insight", although perhaps not in this particular instance. :p Thanks for sharing the illuminating non-illumination.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:48, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Believe me, I know she does. “Listen to Ponyo” ought to be on the list of Wikipedia laws. Courcelles (talk) 14:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Awww, you guys said such nice things I came back early from my holiday just to say hi! I don't think my block on the IP was sock related, just standard disruption.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:54, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Vandalism on my talk page
Some IP vandal placed a on my talk page, accusing me of being your sock. It's nothing of consequence, just thought you might like a laugh. 〜 Festucalex  •  talk  12:53, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this sock is particularly ridiculous. Easy to spot, even easier to block.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:07, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * They even added a block notice to tneir own talk page. Strange. BilCat (talk) 16:29, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems that this individual is well-versed in the ways of Wikipedia. Block evasion, probably. 〜 Festucalex  •  talk  19:18, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Sockpuppet
Hello Ponyo. Please see this last topic. Fade258 (talk) 16:23, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Noted, thank you.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:31, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Rozayrex IP socking
Hi, Ponyo.Blocked user is clearly socking on. Br, Sam Sailor 18:54, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Lovely. If they continue to overwrite articles, we could probably add the name to an abuse filter.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Belmont, Massachusetts
Hi, can I ask for a rev/del for these edits please, and. Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 18:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I've Oversighted as potentially libelous/defamatory.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:11, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Knitsey (talk) 18:12, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ...and moved in for the block.--  Ponyo bons mots 18:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was just going to check if there were more edits, lovely, thanks to both of you. Knitsey (talk) 18:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Zombiesnyder
Given the edits BarneyCrumble has made, I really struggle to believe this isn't another sock. Rusted AutoParts 18:30, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's them. Thanks for the heads-up.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:07, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Andrew Zaas potentially as well. Rusted AutoParts  01:57, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Got that one as well.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

You're back
As long as you are, you might as well do something useful. Does (blocked by me, first unblock request declined by you) = ? Editing the same page created by the master, username similarity, similar edit summaries. I also wonder if there aren't others, but that's all I have evidence of at the moment.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I do have another: . Edited the same page as PAC, edited Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samson Arega Bekele, again similar edit summaries.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bbb23 I think m6 block log will answer your question. Yes, these are all the same. Courcelles (talk) 22:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Cute typo (m6) - I kept thinking MI6 and wondering what they had to do with it. Can I tag all of the accounts as confirmed?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep. This is blatantly the same person. Courcelles (talk) 23:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Geez, how am I supposed to do something useful now?-- Ponyo bons mots 22:06, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I’m going to be on a ship for 3 weeks. You can do all the work, then. Courcelles (talk) 22:11, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, but you better bring me back lots of...(quickly Googles "Iceland" and "Greenland")...lichen.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The US Dept of Agriculture may not like that! Of course, three Canadian stops await between Greenland and New York… Courcelles (talk) 23:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Make sure to pick yourself up a maple leaf emblazoned toque eh!-- Ponyo bons mots 23:12, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Quick one
Hi @Ponyo, Can you help review this case again when you have time? Thanks. Jamiebuba (talk) 22:30, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Checkuser is generally rubbish in UPE cases as coordination amongst separate individuals is so common. 's inclination to go with a behavioural check is likely the right call if the technical data doesn't provide a clear connection.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ponyo Does this page qualify for G5? seeing it was the blocked user who moved it to mainspace and also the other editor is obviously the subject of the article is the only other editor? Jamiebuba (talk) 07:20, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * G5 only applies if it's created by an account in violation of a block or ban, which isn't the case here. There's an argument to be made that it was repeatedly moved from draft space by a sock and should be draftified due to the socking/COI issues.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Another sock
You recently blocked. They are now making the same edits as. Thanks for looking at this. Sundayclose (talk) 15:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * No I'm a different person Palbouvelina (talk) 15:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The handwriting is different Palbouvelina (talk) 15:20, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Never mind, blocked by another admin. Sundayclose (talk) 15:26, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Ponyo, another missed opportunity to be useful. :p --Bbb23 (talk) 15:28, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bbb23 Can you spare time to have a look above for me? Jamiebuba (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You can see what Ponyo thinks when she returns, but I don't think it qualifies for G5.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:59, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Page protection
Hi, I saw you protected this page recently ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Muzii ) and protection is now over.

Unfortunately the problem keeps going and I saw that it's been going on for months.

The situation is that one user always adds informations which are unsourced and in fact, are wrong, or rather subjective.

Consensus was of course not reached for these statements (it's always the same anonymous user).

Me and other users tried to explain in the talk page why these statements are wrong from a purely technical point of view (beside being unsourced) but he always keeps adding them. It seems there's no way of having a logical conversation.

I think it's just hating because he keeps writing things like "fake champion", "non champion"...

What can we do? Franisko (talk) 09:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, now you’re blocked as a sockpuppet and that page is protected. Lovely mess that was made. Courcelles (talk) 10:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Space Port Israel
Dear Ponyo,

On 27.09.22 during review process you deleted Space Port Israel content at Sandbox on ground "Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/55538". So, in order to clear that I turned to Israel Defense internet magazine and received their consent to make reference to their publications. See Link to E-Mail below: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/QgrcJHrnwhDnBRKmrsTcgDNNlqKjmMGDFQv Please, reconsider your approval for my Wikipedia article.

Let me know if more clarification needed Thanks in advance.

Orlovsky01 Orlovsky01 (talk) 21:04, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The copyright holder needs to release the material under an appropriate license. Please see Donating copyrighted materials as to how the process works.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:10, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Since not all publishers are cooperative, I would consider removing any reference to the publications. Based on this, can you approve my article? I will be appreciated for positive answer. Thanks in advance. Orlovsky01 (talk) 20:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I cannot restore copyright violations anywhere on Wikipedia. If you want to create a draft, Draft:Space Port Israel would be the place to do it. But, you must ensure that you are writing it in your own words and not copying from other sources or websites.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Will do it. Orlovsky01 (talk) 13:27, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Pendrift and Dopenguins
Hey, what triggered your check? I had Pendrift on my watchlist.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:12, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It was that caught my eye. Pulled the thread and a bunch of socks flew out.--  Ponyo bons mots 23:16, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * They should know better than to catch your eye. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Another obvious sock, Special:Contributions/Xtwitter, all edits have been to readd sock edits. Lavalizard101 (talk) 11:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I've blocked and tagged as obvious. Ponyo can do whatever she thinks best when she gets here (it's kinda early in the morning, but I am blessed with insomnia). Looks like the new account was registered when Ponyo ran the check but hadn't edited yet.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Aussie socks
Hi, our Aussie IP hopping LTA is back again this week at North American F-86 Sabre. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 04:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Well I've blocked the IP, but I imagine the article will ultimately end up protected.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:41, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll let you if they return. BilCat (talk) 22:23, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Back again at North American F-86 Sabre. Sigh. BilCat (talk) 01:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Got it.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:48, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! BilCat (talk) 21:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * More at Republic F-105 Thunderchief. I've reverted twice already. BilCat (talk) 04:23, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * And still reverting. BilCat (talk) 09:09, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you semi-p Republic F-105 Thunderchief please? Thanks. BilCat (talk) 20:34, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Done!-- Ponyo bons mots 21:21, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

any update
Hello Ponyo, did you get a chance to look at the recent sock accounts I mentioned above? ] 192.189.187.115 (talk) 22:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * That's a lot to sift through. For intricate evidence, it's best handled at SPI. There's already a case open at Sockpuppet investigations/Kamal Afghan01, so you can repost your evidence there and a Clerk will review it.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:08, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and submitted the request. It was a struggle to be honest as I am not familiar with all these different platforms, but I think I managed and did it right. It would be great if you could review it. .170.170.200.151 (talk) 01:22, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * An SPI Clerk will review the evidence and either act on the report themselves or endorse for checkuser.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:29, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

IP evading your block
Hi Ponyo - your range block of 2A00:23C8:3984:6201:0:0:0:0/64 is being evaded by. I tried reporting this to AIV this morning, but it was eventually auto-removed as stale. The IP is making the same poor quality broken-English edits as the IPv6 range was, and is re-adding material reverted from articles by experienced editors, such as at Régional 1. The IPv4 IP also posted at the talk page for the IPv6 range. Could you review and potentially block as block-evasion (and maybe extend the block on the IPv6 range? Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 16:26, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Blocked by another admin whilst I toiled away elsewhere.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:55, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Review of Admin Noticeboard post - possible you can resolve directly?
Hey Ponyo - I'm new to reporting problems on Wikipedia, so I apologize if my approach was incorrect. I posted on the Administrators' noticeboard:

But I don't know if that's the right place to make such a post. Is this something you could look into? If you're able to resolve it, that could save a lot of time the other admins to focus elsewhere. Thanks! Requnix (talk) 20:53, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Responded at AN/I thread.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:09, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for properly resolving the issue, Ponyo! Requnix (talk) 01:19, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Followup on a recent block
Greetings! I've followed up at SPI in connection with a recent sock block of an unnamed LTA. The block evasion tag had me wondering: did you have in mind an older blocked registered account? If so, would you consider adding it to the new SPI? If the repeated submissions linked in the MfD discussion was the LTA you were referring to, sorry for my confusion. Thank you! JFHJr (㊟) 22:40, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Due to the use of IPs related to that draft I can't really say anything regarding sockmasters. Note that your request for checkuser will likely be declined at that SPI as both named accounts are .-- Ponyo bons mots 22:55, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand. Thank you! JFHJr (㊟) 23:03, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Having access to CU allows you to know stuff, but often you can't actually say stuff even if you know it. It's frustrating for everyone except the socks.-- Ponyo bons mots 23:10, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Two related accounts who uploaded pics for this article at Commons are not stale. I've opened a case there in case you're also there and inclined to lend a word or hand. JFHJr (㊟) 23:57, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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Protect articles about road signs from being edited by sockpuppets
Hello. I'm here. Can you protect articles about road signs in various countries listed below from editing by sockpuppets? The articles about road signs have already been edited many times by Jermboy27's sockpuppets but all of their edits have been reverted and the sockpuppets get blocked. Another Jermboy27's sockpuppet Marioinanotherperson made edits in the articles below:


 * Road signs in Macau — I created this one very recently
 * Road signs in Argentina
 * Road signs in Brunei
 * Road signs in Singapore

You have actually already protected my draft article about road signs in post-Soviet states from being edited by sockpuppets and unauthorized users many months ago. My article about road signs in post-Soviet states has already been ready.

WWBM (talk) 23:46, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hello Ponyo, Thank you for blocking that user that tried to impersonate me. Also, can I request this user be globally blocked as they have a Wiktionary account and also on the Commons? Global user contributions 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) 23:27, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I can't globally lock accounts, only Stewards can do that. You can make a request here.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Got it! Thanks! 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) 23:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Allocine and the User:TheClubSilencio
@Ponyo Hi. I don't know if you've heard of this site before, but this editor keeps trying to use this as a source for a subject's DOB. I looked into it and it doesn't seem trustworthy as it has the incorrect DOBs for some actors. For instance, it has Laverne Cox's birth year listed as 1984 when her true birth year(1972) was revealed years ago. That's a pretty big red flag right there. What's your opinion? I think I asked about this once on WP:RSN, but I didn't get a response.

And I think you may wanna block or give out a warning to said user. Because I asked him on his talk page what exactly makes this site reliable and even provided him the Cox example. However he ignored that and because I referred to Cox as "her" instead of "him". I'm not sure if hate speech is against the rules, however getting a constructive point from him is clearly out of the question. Kcj5062 (talk) 10:44, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

EDIT: The discussion is at the bottom of his talk page.Kcj5062 (talk) 10:49, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * They were blocked for 31 hours by, and I've now blocked indefinitely as a sock account.--  Ponyo bons mots 20:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Kcj5062 it seems we were all approaching this from a different angle. I left a note for Drmies and you left one here for Ponyo. Ponyo, not sure how you figured out this was sock but good job and to Drmies for making it clear their comments were not acceptable here.  A hodgepodge of uncoordinated teamwork at play (oxymoron but it worked!).  S0091 (talk) 20:43, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I have special goggles that illuminate what is hidden.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ponyo. Drmies (talk) 21:06, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

I'd also like to thank you as well Ponyo. Even if he wasn't a sockpuppet account, I think he would have just kept on using any website he came across that had DOBs for people as a source like the other user you partially blocked and claim that it was reliable. I didn't see the comments that he made before they were removed, however that "fuck off" remark in one of his edit summaries definitely wasn't helping his case.Kcj5062 (talk) 22:53, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

I did an oppsie
I've just used rollback accidentially List of artists from Northern Ireland. They were good faith edits. I'm sorry about that. I'm going to sit on the naughty step. Knitsey (talk) 20:50, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


 * It's "oopsie." Indeffed, topic banned, and courtesy vanished for life. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait...no, hang on a moment! When is a courtesy vanish not a courtesy? I was naughty, I didn't blow anything up though. Off to ARB for you. Knitsey (talk) 21:10, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, SFR, it's off to the AmazingRadishBoard for you!-- Ponyo bons mots 21:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Sheesh, don't give him ideas above his (salad) station. Knitsey (talk) 21:21, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't even imply that with the elections coming up! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Is this you saying you're applying? Knitsey (talk) 21:38, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That depends, will the arb clerks do my yard work and farming for me? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:43, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I've herd (oh yes I did that)they can manage vacuuming. I have a border collie I can sell to you for £10. She has no recall and will eat all your cheese but I'm sure she will try and help out. Knitsey (talk) 21:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not an Arb, but I volunteer to cuddle your bunnies (not a euphemism!). Note that I will need to leave before The Very Bad Thing happens.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:51, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Apparently, rabbit stew was the first solid food my mum fed to me 50*cough*something years ago. Knitsey (talk) 21:54, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I eat rabbit at least once a week. Very efficient way to raise your own protein, lower your carbon footprint, and fertilize your garden. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:02, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you ever find yourself in my area, I'll make sure there's bunnies to cuddle, and I'll cook you something nice that you haven't seen hoping around. I made a wonderful ratatouille straight from the garden a couple weeks ago, cooked in cast iron over a fire. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:54, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Deal.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:58, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I ran for arbcom THREE TIMES and got ZERO clerking of my yard! Who do I complain to? Courcelles (talk) 22:18, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * And I see a couple people in this thread who should be running. But won’t. Because they’re sane. One of whom resisted my multiple attempts to get her to run… Courcelles (talk) 22:20, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, the old "run for Arbcom" chestnut. It's like unwrapping a gift to find a bomb inside (or worse (spoilers!) ). I could try to clerk your yard, but you know I'd only end up with my feet up barking directions at others while drinking all of your wine. FACT.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:26, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * So, arbcom you'd run arbcom like Chanel? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I would run everything like Chanel if I had the (figurative) balls. She's the best at being the worst.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:36, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * You’d end up drinking my champagne, and holding my cats! While I cut the grass.  I gave up on “draft Ponyo for Arbcom” years ago.  Dragging you into AUSC candidacy was as far as I’ll ever get. Courcelles (talk) 22:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ponyo is on the naughty step now. Knitsey (talk) 22:22, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Don’t think I’ve completely forgotten about you, @Knitsey. Courcelles (talk) 22:30, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well that's one way to get me off Ponyos talk page. Knitsey (talk) 22:33, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Go for it! What's the worst that can happen? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:36, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I’m just teasing you, @Knitsey. I mean, I’d nominate you, but I’m also just having fun. Ask Ponyo how many times I tried to talk her into being an arbitrator. (Let’s face it, she wouldn’t be running for Arb, she’d basically win by acclamation.) Courcelles (talk) 22:36, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I see what you're doing there...-- Ponyo bons mots 22:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This year, after two resignations? I don’t expect a particularly competitive election. I’d bet on not enough candidates getting the 60% before I’d bet on a truly contested election! Courcelles (talk) 22:42, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

New message from Magic Fizz
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/170.80.111.10.  Magic Fizz  ( talk ) 23:28, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * All sorted now, it appears.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:31, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Munir Khan
Hello, I see you've just deleted Munir Khan G11. Last I looked, it was decidedly un-G11, detailing his many arrests as a criminal. Has it been recently updated? Wikishovel (talk) 20:47, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm unraveling a large UPE sockfarm via Checkuser at the moment and this was part of it...Hang on a tick, and I'll check for you.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:00, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, that I've restored the article as well as the talk page. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:05, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Probable IP block evasion
Hey, it looks like some IP block evasion is going on and since you were the original blocker, I figured you would know the most about the situation. , which was blocked for evasion, created the page Murders of Linda Gibson and Cody Lee Garrett (now deleted G5) as an accepted draft. A new IP,, just recreated the draft article. Obviously I have no way to know if it's the exact same article, but it probably is since the WHOIS data shows both IPs being from the same general location. I tagged the draft for G5, but I figured you would know more about the block evasion and could take the appropriate action. Thanks, StartOkayStop (talk) 04:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * is on the case!-- Ponyo bons mots 17:05, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

More UPE socking
Hi Ponyo, hope you are well. I came across Draft:Rajan Khinvasara which was created originally in the mainspace by, who did so after gaming autoconfirmed in their own user space. I noticed that this draft was just deleted by you after creation by another user,, who has username similarity, also gamed autoconfirmed, and who you blocked. The block summary doesn't have a link to a SPI case page (I'm guessing there isn't one), so I'm bringing this here hoping you can block this account and delete the draft. Thanks! Uhai (talk) 16:53, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * , see Sockpuppet investigations/Amansharma111 where you can report new (or old!) accounts as you come across them.-- Ponyo bons mots 17:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

A sensitive CU request
Hi Ponyo,

I've made an allegation off-wiki that a prominent user is a prolific sockmaster that has been harassing me and other users. I've presented my evidence to multiple admins, who agreed that the evidence was compelling, but the only one that is a CU felt that they have been too involved in publicly criticizing the user in the past. One of them suggested that I come to you, specifically, because you are "a decent person", and you CU-blocked one of the suspected sockpuppets.

I have a CU request for you, and some corroborating evidence, but I don't want to put it here, in public - I don't want to make public accusations until I'm very, very sure. Is there a way for me to share this information with you privately?

Thank you,

Philomath Philomathes2357 (talk) 18:34, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * While I'm happy to look over the evidence, if the editor in question is really that prominent in the community, it may be more expedient to send the evidence to Arbcom as there will be more checkuser eyes on it. It's a long weekend in my province so I don't want to leave you hanging! Pinging a couple of Arbs who appear to be currently active just to make sure this is good advice . I don't want to lead you astray.--  Ponyo bons mots 18:55, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Pending a response from the Arbs you pinged, I'll just lurk here and await further guidance. Philomathes2357 (talk) 19:05, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Emailing ArbCom is a decent idea, though unfortunately I can't make any promises about how soon we're going to be able to respond. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 19:09, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll give it a shot. Looking forward to stopping the harassment. Thanks for your input @L235 Philomathes2357 (talk) 20:11, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with Kevin, for what it's worth. Primefac (talk) 20:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. I just sent Arbcom an email. I hope someone is able to take a look. I look forward to working with you folks if you want any additional information. Philomathes2357 (talk) 20:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * No idea who told Philomath that you were "a decent person", clearly someone who doesn't know you well. In case you're unaware of this unholy mess, you might look at Sockpuppet investigations/Vizorblaze and this thread at ANI. Indecent talk page watcher over and out.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:41, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Geez, B, can't I have just this one nice thing?-- Ponyo bons mots 18:54, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, if you sent me some of that Häagen-Dazs ice cream you mentioned, I might relent.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:41, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * You don't understand what you ask of me! Would you take my first-born son instead?-- Ponyo bons mots 20:20, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * How Biblical, Jezebel. Even if you had a first-born son, unless he knows how to make ice cream, what use is he to me? BTW, you didn't say what flavor you were going to drown yourself in. Not to be outdone, I just finished an orange almond loaf from our local bakery, and I'm having chicken paprikash tonight for dinner. Put that in your tub and smoke it! --Bbb23 (talk) 20:39, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well if I did have a son, I would teach him to mow lawns and tend gardens and send him your way and you would have the yard of a king! I'm jealous of the paprikash, of course, but I do not smoke it. If I did, I would do it from a hookah, not a tub.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, if you had just told me it was coffee... I don't drink coffee, and I don't eat anything with coffee in it, regardless of whether or not it's caffeinated. Now that I know what you would do if you had a son, I say get on it! --Bbb23 (talk) 21:49, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * There is a reason I picked coffee and don't have a son...-- Ponyo bons mots 21:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I'm picturing you lying back on a divan in a bright red outfit eating your ice cream and smoking a hookah. Why don't you take a selfie?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:15, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Check your email.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:36, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * LOL.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Erroneous use of Wikipedia policy to block edits of an article
The article on Harold Hillam was protected for one month on September 27. The cited reason was "Violations of the biographies of living persons policy" The article, however, is NOT about a living person. The article very clearly discusses the death of the individual. Please remove the block and restore the section on Controversies. Despite claims to the contrary, the three sentences of the new section contain ample citations and meet the standard for references on Wikipedia. 176.228.197.95 (talk) 04:32, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) It doesn't matter that Hillam is dead because WP:BLP applies to the entire project and the claims you are making include allegations involving living persons that are are sourced to primary sources, such as court documents, and 2) you're evading your block to make this complaint. So no, I won't be removing the block or unprotecting the article.-- Ponyo bons mots 17:07, 30 September 2023 (UTC)