User talk:Ponyo/Archive 65

Fake Article
Dear Ponyo, can you deleted Draft:The Smurfs Movie and Draft:The Pagemaster, when I check it this is fake. There this the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Smurfs_Movie https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Pagemaster_(film) 142.122.25.19 (talk) 14:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)


 * and the user is User:The Media Expert. @The Media Expert 142.122.25.19 (talk) 14:14, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * and @2000:999:485:377:9872:C8C6:6099:7244 who created the draft article. 142.122.25.19 (talk) 14:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Ponyo, the IP who is creating these hoaxes is Special:contributions/2001:999:485:377:9872:C8C6:6099:7274. There are a whole bunch of IPs from Finland who have been creating this crap for quite some time. I deleted both drafts. Sometimes I block the IPs, and sometimes I don't, depending on how many edits they've made and when.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The IP making the request here is also evading a 3X ban by posting here. Socks abound.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:31, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

PakistanHistorian?
Nice to see you back. In the hope that you will come in later today, could you check against PH? I see a couple of non-stale socks, and, the former of which was confirmed. There is article intersection between the new account and other socks - the one I've seen most often is. Regardless of anything else, Dekhoaayadon is a suspicious new user, created on March 16, and launching a meritorious SPI, Sockpuppet investigations/Dunki2024, on March 27; the fact that it was well-presented and had merit makes it more suspicious.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * They're editing from ranges known to be used by Sockpuppet investigations/HaughtonBrit/Archive.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to compare them against recently blocked socks and ? As I read the tortured archive,  checked those two on February 16, 2024, and found Dazzem possible and Finmas inconclusive. Both were blocked behaviorally. Dekhoaayadon was created after the check. I feel somewhat uncomfortable blocking Dekhoaayadon based on behavior for two reasons: (1) I'm unfamiliar with the case and (2) there's no obvious behavioral similarity with those two, i.e., article intersection (interestingly enough, there's no article intersection between Dazzem and Finmas either). One thing I did notice is, like Dekhoaayadon, Finmas started an SPI, albeit not about a new master. Forgive the musing, but I'm sorting this out in my head as I type and ask for more help.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks to me that Finmas was editing solely via VPNs (all of which are currently blocked). and  have overlap on two separate ranges. --  Ponyo bons mots 20:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and blocked and tagged.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've been watching (smile). Thanks! --Bbb23 (talk) 20:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Ponyo, could you take a look at the two recent SPI reports on suspected HaughtonBrit socks?
 * Report about Historian2325: a recently re-activated account with almost a complete topic-of-interest and POV overlap with HB
 * Report about RangerRus: I realize that other admins have already taken a look at this and believes that the behavioral evidence indicates that RangerRus is not HB but I am still suspicious based on some overlap in topic-of-interests RR's POV is in sync with HB's (RR does edit a wider range of articles though) and some stylistic overlaps in project-space comments that I am not spelling out here.
 * Would it be possible to check is either of these editors are editing from the known HB ranges near Pittsburgh or one of HB's usual VPNs/proxies? Abecedare (talk) 17:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand the frustration involved when waiting for action on our very backlogged SPI process, but your first request involves an extensive report with around 50(!) diffs to review on an editor that was found to be unrelated to HaughtonBrit in April 2023. I've left a note at the SPI but a Clerk needs to review the evidence presented and make a call on endorsement. For your second request, a Checkuser declined a check and a Clerk closed the report with no further action. If there is new evidence, the report can be reopened but I don't intend to check when the evidence has been reviewed and declined previously. Sorry, the process sucks, I know.--  Ponyo bons mots 22:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I happened to look over it, just now--and it goes totally over my head, and I don't have much knowledge of or experience with the sockmaster. Drmies (talk) 22:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not a Clerk so I can't endorse a CU request, but I spent some time looking through the behavioral evidence for Historian2325. There are a few differences, but more similarities with several of the more recent HB socks. I believe Historian2325's activity conforms more closely to the sockmaster's patterns than RangersRus. I do think that running a CU on Historian2325 has a rational basis and would be within policy. The Wordsmith Talk to me 15:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * , you're so active at SPI lately and do such a great job you should be a Clerk!-- Ponyo bons mots 21:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'm going to apply eventually, but first I'm trying to get a little more experience at SPI especially on the process-heavy parts. Having my actions/closures reviewed by a Clerk or CU before archiving gives me a little extra assurance that any procedural errors I make can be caught. The Wordsmith Talk to me 22:04, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * "And this area is infested with socking POV-warriors, which makes it even more difficult to identify who's-who."
 * There are some sock-masters in this area, but HB definitely makes up the lion's share of sock accounts and disruption in this specific area, he's the most dedicated sock-master I've seen by far, to the point where it seems to be an affliction. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, all. I gather from previous CU comments that this LTA is pretty tricky. And this area is infested with socking POV-warriors, which makes it even more difficult to identify who's-who. Abecedare (talk) 15:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

The archiving bot
My watchlist is littered with your archivals of SPIs. Trying to beat the record of x many archivals in y minutes? Bored? Decided to clerk because the actual clerks aren't? I had no idea I had that many SPIs on my watchlist. Now if you could just clear the CU and open backlogs ... --Bbb23 (talk) 23:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Even with the script it was tedious, slow, and painful. I was going to try to tackle some open cases but the page is just so bogged down right now, I thought I'd try to clear a path. The problem is, once I had archived all the old cases, I had burnt myself out. Maybe tomorrow I'll have the fortitude to try again.-- Ponyo bons mots 23:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * PS We need to encase in bubble wrap and guard them like the royal jewels.  as well.--  Ponyo bons mots 23:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Absolutely right! --Bbb23 (talk) 23:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I could have sworn I had the backlog under 75 cases just a few weeks ago... The Wordsmith Talk to me 00:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You did, but the backlog builds quickly. Per Mad-Eye Moody: Constant Vigilance! --Bbb23 (talk) 00:38, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I noticed the archives of the investigations on my watchlist this evening when I was going for a jog. Yeah, even I got a little confused why Ponyo suddenly decided to archive them so quickly. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 00:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the work you did, Ponyo. I imagine SPILand often feels overwhelming...you archive 3 cases and then 5 new cases are created the same day! I appreciate all of the work you, checkusers, SPI clerks and admins who patrol SPIs do to keep the socks off the platform. Liz Read! Talk! 01:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks . It's very much a "dig a ditch...fill it in" scenario, much like most Admin backlogs. It's just so much more time consuming than anti-vandal or CSD work. A single check can lead to 50 open browser tabs and an hour of brain damage only to conclude or  connections. Good clerks and admins willing to pitch in are worth their weight in gold!--  Ponyo bons mots 15:44, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Cough cough... let's hope that we can stop a lot of socks. It just makes me disappointed that they don't want to take the standard offer and learn their lesson. Oh well, it's basically sort of like WWIII out there. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Please undo revisions by a blocked user
Can you undo the revisions by Hawalul212:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Barney_and_Friends_episodes&diff=prev&oldid=1193416148

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Barney_and_Friends_episodes&diff=prev&oldid=1190907996

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Barney_and_Friends_episodes&diff=prev&oldid=1189591573

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Barney_and_Friends_episodes&diff=prev&oldid=1189591420 148.135.176.37 (talk) 12:24, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The edits were from months ago and there have been subsequent edits. If any of the information is incorrect, please make an edit request on the article talk page.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:29, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

MM..
Hello,

I always appreciate your actions.

However.. sorry but, Is it impossible to take action against IPs?

Once DENOSIO's accounts are blocked, they continue to attack via IP.

I reported it to SPI, but no one resolves it.

Is there no way to take action against IPs that damage WIKI..?

Thanks. Lades2222 (talk) 11:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Because Denosio has a wide array of IPs that change quickly, blocking or rangeblocking isn't very effective. Semi-protection of the target articles is the easiest way to prevent further disruption in this case. Which is the latest IP or article where you've seen them pop up?-- Ponyo bons mots 17:46, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Question or Request:
 * Is it possible to process all countries and regions (about 200) that start with 'Visa Policy' so that only 'auto-verified' editors can edit them?
 * To defend against accounts like DENOSIO, I think we need to block the starting point. (Indefinitely, if possible) Lades2222 (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The protection policy doesn't allow for such sweeping actions. There needs to be evidence of disruption to protect an article, and it should only be protected for the level and duration estimated to be needed to prevent the disruption.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand what you mean. However, it is unfortunate that the inability to catch malicious IPs shows the limitations of Wikipedia. FYI.. I've seen several pages that have been restricted indefinitely. That's why I asked you a question. Lades2222 (talk) 21:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Grandiose delusions
Are we currenlty experiencing an example of this in action? &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:03, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, the irony was not lost on me.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:03, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

username socks
I've blocked as another sock of, per WP:DUCK. I didn't do all the bellls and whistles, but you may want to CU to confirm. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * They admitted it here, but yes, it's also them. Also, hi. Haven't seen you in a while; always nice when you drop by! -- Ponyo bons mots 19:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Cash Flow Posse
Now that's a band I'd love to join. Drmies (talk) 20:13, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Better than insane clowns, for sure.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Question About the Sockpuppet Account
I appreciate you working your admin magic on my talk page. That being said, I would be interested in connecting with that banned user off-Wiki so I can communicate with him without being in violation of the policies myself. I don't like obviously that he is committing so much vandalism, but I know it is out of boredom from what he has said and he honestly seems like a nice person, maybe just a little misguided.

I guess my perspective is that I'm not going to commit any vandalism (in fact my record shows quite the opposite), so I don't see the harm in it and maybe in fact it would be a welcome distraction--I have been in contact with other banned users before like User:Meepsheep and it never affected my conduct. Is there anyway I could maybe point him to one of my emails (maybe one not directly associated with my real name) so he can chat with me without it being disruptive? If that would be a violation too of Wikipedia policies, I will not, but I am just curious what leeway I have here. Thebirdlover (talk) 20:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As you have email enabled, the blocked editor could email you at any time just by clicking the "email this user" link. I haven't revoked email access from any of the blocked accounts.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * True, hopefully he does. --Thebirdlover (talk) 20:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Question: Why Hollywood Life not a RS
Hi Ponyo. Regarding my reverted edit 1218545167 on April 12 for the birth date of Ainsley Earhardt, I was wondering why Hollywood Life is not considered a RS. Its wikiarticle reads, “The site covers celebrity, fashion, beauty, women issues, and entertainment news.” While it doesn’t appear on the RSP list, I can’t find where it has been depreciated or noted as having inaccuracies or a failure of editorial oversight. Is there a RfC for it? Although it may not publish what some would consider “hard” news, it does cover news in its bailiwick. I realize we must comply with DOB but I don’t know of Ainsley Earhardt complaining about inclusion of her date of birth, I don’t know that the edit is contentious material, Hollywood Life is popular enough that it may reasonably be inferred that Earhardt does not object, and a simple Google search brings up her DOB top, front, and center. Your thoughts on this matter will be appreciated. Regards, Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 03:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * There is no evidence of editorial oversight for the webpage as presented. Unlike the articles on Hollywood Life, which include the author's name in the bylines, the /celeb subpages do not provide any information as to how the material is obtained or verified. This is a huge red flag when it comes to using such pages as a reliable source for BLPs. In addition, the website's Terms Of Use are clear that they take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information they publish (see Section 22 here for example). Finally, the BLP policy states that "Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources". As Earhardt's birth date has been disputed and multiple years have been provided, it is critical that the "widely published in reliable sources" criteria is met. In order to uphold BLP as a policy, we don't guess that the subjects of our articles are ok with the content of gossip sites if there is no overt evidence to the contrary. The point of the policy is to remove conjecture altogether and insist on the highest possible sourcing. The unattributed IMDb-type back pages of Hollywood Life does not meet that criteria. -- Ponyo bons mots 21:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Query
Hello, Ponyo,

We have an editor with a little quirk that I wanted to check in with you about and they have had this habit for years now. Every few weeks, about once a month, DinosaursLoveExistence uses their registered account to create a large number of empty categories in really random subject areas but often specific to the UK. And then, after the categories are created, a few days later, they log out and use IP accounts, like User:92.27.37.191 to fill these empty categories. Over the years, I've left probably a dozen messages, on their registered account's talk page and on the IP accounts' talk pages, simply asking them to log in to do all of their editing with their registered account but this habit has persisted for going on years now. I don't want to be a stickler for bureaucracy but as a checkuser, is there anything wrong with this behavior? Their only interest is in creating these large groups of categories and then filling them up a week later so there is no vandalism going on but they have never communicated except occasionally through edit summaries, no talk page responses at all that I have seen over the past few years.

I'm coming to you because I don't know if there is any policy about boomeranging between logged in editing and then logging out to edit, seemingly to do different kinds of tasks. They are unresponsive so I can't get any answer to my queries over the years. The only problem that exists is me tagging dozens of empty categories and then, four or five days later, untagging these categories because they are no longer empty so it's kind of a PITA. But given their lack of explanation, I can see this continuing, indefinitely and thought I'd check in with someone who regularly looks into account data. It's really just bad for them as it reveals their location but they have been alerted to this fact multiple times and they don't seem to care. Any way, I don't want to be looking for problems that aren't there but I thought I'd inquire with you. Thank you in advance for any insight you can provide with this editor's unusual behavior. Liz Read! Talk! 22:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * From my point of view, while there is no hard policy violation of WP:SOCK with your description of the activities, though the edits are disruptive if they are causing a drain on volunteer resoures while failing to communicate, which is required by policy. One possibility is to block the account from category creation, with a note that access can be restored when they explain why they're editing in such a way. Or a final request for communication noting that a block could be forthcoming if they don't respond. It would be a matter of weighing the amount of disruption caused against the benefit of allowing them to continue unabated. -- Ponyo bons mots 21:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewed an image suggestion?
Noticed your WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Bmusique99 filing and took at look the sockpuppet's log out of curiosity. What in the world is "reviewed an image suggestion"? I have never seen that before. S0091 (talk) 20:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Huh. I've never sent that specific log entry before. -- Ponyo bons mots 20:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Posted the question at WP:VPT. Will see. S0091 (talk) 20:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You'll probably get a more complete explanation there, but it has to do with suggested edits for Android apps.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

BetoTheDJ
I wondered about them a while ago. Thanks for figuring it out.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * They'll be back, so you'll get another shot at it.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I'm not familiar with that case and haven't studied the behavior. Probably too lazy to do so. It seems like I spend most of my time identifying socks...just like before but without the assistance of, um, certain tools. I can spend a ton of time on one user and then give up because, although still suspicious, I can't make a connection. Tiring..and sometimes I'm tired of being tired. End of grump.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Happy to help if you can throw evidence at me. I also spend a lot of time digging only to decide I can't quite make the case. -- ferret (talk) 20:48, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Kind of you.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:57, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Image suggestion for article on Nelly Furtado
Hi, I request that you update the infobox image of Nelly Furtado, to a more recent one as Furtado's appearance has since changed, and because it is more consistent with articles on other celebrities. 70.50.199.125 (talk) 03:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Images used in articles of living subjects must be free; you can't just pick an image that you like and upload it to the article. There is no consistency between images of celebrities, with the quality differing greatly (and many lacking images altogether).-- Ponyo bons mots 17:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I see. But if you do happen to find a more recent image of her that is free, then maybe consider updating the infobox image by then (when I say "by then" I mean at that time). 70.50.199.125 (talk) 03:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Zolgensma
Thanks for your work on this. Being that Fostera12 is part of that group, I believe they will all be part of Sockpuppet investigations/Cricket Butterfly this sock farm which is significant as Fostera12 has created 65 pages, many of which were previously G5'd under that farm. Is there a way to run a quick CU with that farm and Fostera12? CNMall41 (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * trying to tie UPE sock farms to a single master is a make-work project with insanity as the only possible outcome. These accounts are generally editing from the same rough geolocation(s), cycling through the same enormous dynamic ranges. There's a reason why most CUs avoid these types of SPIs and they sit for ages. Is there a reason why you want to try to tie Fostera12 to the Cricket Butterfly group? Is it to make Fostera's articles eligible for G5? I ask because I've spent several hours working through the CU-request backlog at SPI over the last couple of days and this additional check will take away from the very limited time I have left to run checks.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand about the sanity part. I don't think many of them would qualify for G5 at this point as there have been quite a few edits to them. I have gone through some of the newer ones that do not look notable and sent to draft. The others I just use as a roadmap for future SPIs. "Breadcrumbs" if you will to tie other future accounts to the farm. No need to check if you think it isn't worth it but I do appreciate the work you did and the reply. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:35, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * A few years ago I burned out completely focussing on these groups, especially the studio spam. I deleted my watchlist and disappeared for several months. It made sad, so I don't want to do that again.--  Ponyo bons mots 22:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * But it did teach me to keep my watchlist somewhere under one zillion.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Currently 10,321. I guess I need to seek help. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Haha. I get it. I am almost at that same bridge. But still have fuel in the tank for the time being. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That's good news, because you do good work here!-- Ponyo bons mots 22:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh I did this too. I purged down from 10k to 1k, and am back to 1.4k now. -- ferret (talk) 23:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Protection of Saffron Barker

 * Saffron Barker

Hi Ponyo, I see that you applied extended protection to that page for sockpuppetry. To me, it would be alright at the time it was applied but today, I feel like it should be no higher than autoconfirmed protection because she is just enough to have a Wikipedia page and there are not really any problems anymore to keep this page protected at extended level today. JuniperChill (talk) 14:37, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've dropped it down to semi-protection. The sock targetting the article is still active, so we'll see how that goes.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Hot dog!
Take me out to the sock game! Come get your clones! Get 'em while they're hot! --Bbb23 (talk) 20:36, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ha, you're dating yourself a little there.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That's only because no one else will date me.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I mean, I'm vegetarian, so I don't even eat meat (although I did accidentally eat an olive and chicken pizza by accident at a party once, so yuck). I would very much prefer a veggie burger with dill pickle relish, olives, cucumbers, tomatoes, lettuce, you name it. Just... not meat. Or I'd just stick to the classic pretzels and popcorn. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 20:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Ullu
Can you take a peek at the history with your goggles and see if it needs ECP sock protection, and if anyone needs to be taken behind the toolshed? I'm a bit involved, so I don't want to do anything on my own. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Lots of socking there, including:
 * All apparently trying to control the narrative regarding Over-the-top media services in India and related articles. Still checking for more...-- Ponyo bons mots 18:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Color me surprised! Or not really surprised. I appreciate the time you're spending taking a peek. In other news I have two dozen duck eggs in the incubator! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * All blocked and tagged. They have a large range available to them, so they may be back (or have older accounts laying in wait). I bumped a couple articles up to ECP and will look to see if more are warranted. I would like to think that "I have two dozen duck eggs in the incubator" is code for something exciting and exotic, but that's unlikely I suppose.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't do anything exciting or exotic. I just move animal shit from one pile to another and grow peppers, onions, garlic, and tomatoes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Exciting is overrated anyhow. You have the home grown ingredients for an amazing Peperonata at your fingertips. Who needs more?-- Ponyo bons mots 18:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That's how I look at it too. A lack of excitement just means nothing is going wrong. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * All blocked and tagged. They have a large range available to them, so they may be back (or have older accounts laying in wait). I bumped a couple articles up to ECP and will look to see if more are warranted. I would like to think that "I have two dozen duck eggs in the incubator" is code for something exciting and exotic, but that's unlikely I suppose.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't do anything exciting or exotic. I just move animal shit from one pile to another and grow peppers, onions, garlic, and tomatoes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Exciting is overrated anyhow. You have the home grown ingredients for an amazing Peperonata at your fingertips. Who needs more?-- Ponyo bons mots 18:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That's how I look at it too. A lack of excitement just means nothing is going wrong. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

 * You're welcome. I'm sorry you had to wait so long for a result in such a straightforward case.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries. Sure I thought that SPI made sense but when I looked at the other ones I realized there were so many who had waited longer - and then when I counted by hand the clerking...I was gobsmacked. I know that folks had been decrying the declining numbers of admins/RfAs a while back (though I tend to stay out of that area) but SPIs & revdels & GA noms etc (oh dear I'm afraid to look into those other two now that I've mentioned it...) are more firmly among the workaday underpinnings of WP and when they grind to a halt...the whole enterprise slows down and the gears start rusting. SPI was telling us all something - not sure what - I just hope the institutional fortitude to figure out what & how to make things better exists. And I would think about volunteering as a clerk but it isn't possible right now - I can only do what I can do. Shearonink (talk) 20:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * SPI has always been an outlier. Unlike many admin tasks where you can get in a groove, each SPI needs to be viewed with fresh eyes and a single case can take up a significant amount of precious volunteer time. When it's running smoothly, Clerks do the initial review of evidence of either endorse a check or decline one. With so few active Clerks at the moment, the checkusers need to do all of the initial digging and evidence review in addition to the actually checking, which in and of itself can be an extensive process. Sockpuppet investigations/Alsho093, for example, looks like an easy case. In order to process it I had to 1) review the evidence presented 2) review both editors' contributions 3) check their contributions on other language Wikipedias 4) run a check on one of the accounts 5) run a check on the second account 6) sort through the ranges used, looking for overlaps 7) compare user agents 8) run proxy checks on suspicious IPs 9) note results 10) block and tag. For that one check I had about 20+ tabs open running comparisons. Having active Clerks and admins to help with the process, especially the preliminary review, is such a huge time saver even for the simplest of cases. The burn out factor is huge, especially when it comes to UPE sock farms that are extremely complicated, tedious and time consuming. --  Ponyo bons mots 21:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh dear I think I just found another one - see Unoduetrevia at this run of the Editor Interaction Utility. Should I add them to the SPI? Shearonink (talk) 20:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's the same editor.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Just requested protection of Johann van Beethoven, an IP has popped up with an identical edit to this article as the Beale ciphers & socks... - Shearonink (talk) 03:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Notice
Hey, you may want to take a look at this as it is directed at you. ภץאคгöร 21:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Redacted and blocked by Spicy. JeffSpaceman (talk) 21:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, I guess I missed it. Was it a loving missive? Socks are generally so receptive to my attention.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Is there a way to block a user?
Hello, There is a user who keeps bothering me. I don't want to discussion to that person anymore. Is there a way to block that user(account)? Lades2222 (talk) 23:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If someone is trying to communicate with you in good faith, they shouldn't be blocked. Note, however, that you can request that an editor no longer post to your talk page and it is generally expected that they should comply with the request. See WP:USERTALKSTOP.-- Ponyo bons mots 23:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry
Hi. I want to resolve this conflict once and for all, I want you to help me. I have a long-standing conflict with Lades2222 because he believes that I am a person who destroys Wikipedia. I don't think so, you can look at my latest edits. I always confirm my changes with links. And I have good faith. Lades2222 is even confused with another user who is from Singapore. Here he is truly violating Wikipedia by not confirming the changes with links. Because of him, you constantly block me. I'm tired of this madness. I want to forget about it and use Wikipedia freely. Please help me figure it out. I will be grateful for your help. RussianFederation02 (talk) 09:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * That's literally block evasion that you're doing, as stated in Because of him, you constantly block me. By the time Ponyo sees this, they're going to consider the account you're using is a sock. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 10:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Your editing style and tone are almost identical to User:Denosio, which was already blocked. In other words, your accounts are showing the same behavior that Denosio behaved. One cannot help but suspect that he is a puppet. We must end situations where people who have already been blocked continue their activities without reflection.
 * If you want to fully resolve the conflict you should avoid creating new accounts. Lades2222 (talk) 13:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * However, I wrote above "Is there a way to block a user?" The target of this is a user other than you. Lades2222 (talk) 13:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'm destroying Wikipedia. I CONFIRM MY CHANGES WITH LINKS! I put a lot of effort into improving the article. I also make the sections much simpler and more convenient, removing unnecessary and outdated information. And you and administrator Ponyo erase all my efforts and efforts. This really irritates me. I'm not a villain. Look at my editorials, they are not criminal. I want to edit articles freely, just like you. I want to agree that I don’t interfere with your editing, and you don’t bother me. That is all. It is very simply and easy. But you are fighting with me. RussianFederation02 (talk) 13:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Latest sock blocked. Noting, as I assume they're still reading this thread, that they are not merely blocked but banned from en.wikipedia and all of their edits will likely be reverted regardless of whether they personally believe them to be productive. --  Ponyo bons mots 15:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

2A02:587:8908:13D4:48C5:6DEE:8656:B115 blocked from editing Soviet War Memorial (Treptower Park)
Just letting you know that the IP you've partially blocked hopped to a different one.  –Skywatcher68 (talk) 14:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * has been particularly helpful while I was AFK. Thank you.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Always glad to lend a hand, especially as you pick up so much of my slack. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

User:Rajanyas
@Ponyo sir, I don't understand what is Wikipedia's policy? This @Rajanyas user removed reliable/sources/content from various pages like Graharipu, Chudachandra etc. and he added his own opinion. I warned him many times but he ignored and continued his vandalism. Please block him. 2409:4085:8E99:F559:0:0:81C9:8A0B (talk) 21:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * My educated guess is that you are both socks who've been having this same battle for ages. If I'm wrong, dispute resolution is where you'll find your answers.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I am reporting myself and a user.
I am engaged in an editorial war with an editor named UserBourenane Chahine on the page "Visa requirements for Algerian citizens".

In order to resolve the issue through dialogue, a bilateral discussion was held in the section titled "Bourenane Chahine" in "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lades2222", but rather than being resolved, the conflict grew larger.

Moreover, the other editor hurled harsh insults and swear words at me.

And he also hurled insults and swear words at my main page (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lades2222&action=history).

I also violated the "revert" rule to defend the page from the editor.

This is unlikely to be effective even through mediation.

Since it can't be resolved at all, what should I do so that both me and the editor in question are punished?

I am already ready to be punished. Lades2222 (talk) 21:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * , I already blocked Bourenane Chahine for gross personal and racist attacks. Your edits fall under WP:3RRNO, no one is going to block you for removing those attacks.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Criminy. You both launched the same racist insults at each other. That's an immediate indef from me. Now I have to rev-del that ridiculous display of throwing toys from prams.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I am Lades2222.
 * Thank you for punishing both.
 * I also deeply reflect on your comments.
 * And what steps do I need from wikipedia to restore my account. 202.68.233.161 (talk) 22:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Seriously? After getting blocked, you decided to perform block evasion? You do realize that this is going to result in an even worse consequence, right? NoobThreePointOh (talk) 22:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about..? I won't create a new account. This is a question about restoring an existing account. 202.68.233.161 (talk) 22:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Even if you're not creating a new account, that's still block evasion per WP:LOUTSOCK. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 22:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

LTA battles
I saw you blocked as a consequence of a sweep of Ttt24 socks including. Another day, another Ttt24 set. -- ferret (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't even catch the TTT24 link! You've given me too much credit; I'm just stumbling through the dark most of the time, tripping over piles of socks.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

You've got mail!
-- ferret (talk) 17:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Noted. Note sure if there's anything to be done at this point as there's no local creation. It should be caught pretty quickly if activated here.-- Ponyo bons mots 17:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

R2dra
Looks like another sock in waiting? -- 2409:4085:8E34:EBDC:0:0:8149:5C08 (talk) 01:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Bbblocked.-- Ponyo bons mots 17:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for Removal of "Criticism" Section from Ilyas Qadri Page
Upon reviewing the content of the page, I have noticed that the "Criticism" section appears to be promoting vandalism rather than contributing constructively to the article. As a result, it may inadvertently perpetuate a negative or biased portrayal of Maulana Ilyas Qadri, which goes against Wikipedia's principles of neutrality and verifiability.

I believe that removing this section would help maintain the integrity of the article and ensure that it presents a fair and balanced representation of Maulana Ilyas Qadri's contributions and activities. By doing so, we can uphold Wikipedia's commitment to providing accurate and reliable information to its readers. Khanadir (talk) 10:42, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Vandalism has a specific meaning on Wikipedia - content disputes, which this pertains to, is not vanadlism. You are welcome to make your arguments on the article talk page.-- Ponyo bons mots 17:10, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Trolling socks
I started with. She acknowledges she is (see also . Says she wanted a new account. Then in looking at Neko's Talk page she admitted (don't think she's said anything about it before the admission) that she's  (that one's edits overlap) (her userpage says she has  as an alternate account, but it doesn't exist). Then, feeling like Alice chasing the rabbit down a hole, I saw  (you should look at the conversation she has with herself/him (with Quirkykiana) on EdenBAnn's Talk page - now mostly blanked). Eden says he's male, emphatically. There is a good possibility they are classmates or something. Also noticed a couple of suppressed edits. Finally, the conversations on this page between the two users is, well, I don't know how to describe it, you can make up your own mind, I don't know enough teenagers.

Then there's the edits themselves. Apparently, she thinks she's up to counter-vandalism, welcoming new users (and IPs), sometimes when they haven't edited, doing the usual bombardment of the Teahouse (my experience is this kind of editor loves yakking with anyone, Wikipedia, the social media platform), and having some really weird discussions on other users' Talk pages (poor User talk:Marchjuly).

That's enough to go on, but I can't help but believe there are more accounts. Over to you.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * All of these are Neko Lexi:


 * This looks the blatant WP:CIR as opposed to purposeful trolling. I've blocked them all, leaving unblocked, though a CIR block looks quite possible there as well.--  Ponyo bons mots 22:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'd block Neko as WP:NOTHERE and WP:CIR, but I don't think it would be fair given your warning. I think there's a fine line between trolling and incompetence, but here I think it's more like immaturity and trolling in the sense that they are taking up tasks that should not be performed by inexperienced, incompetent editors. I guess I'll watch them, but I'm not sure how I'll figure out if they create more accounts, so any block will have to be based on their behavior with that account, and it'll have to be new disruption. Thanks for your work.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hey, I noticed that you disabled autoblock on Quirkykiana. My assumption is that was what was causing Neko's problem, but, at the same time, I couldn't understand why she wouldn't/couldn't provide the autoblock ID; nor could I make heads or tails out of that screenshot. It's a little hard to see, but it is not the text that is shown when autoblock prevents a user from editing. She's exhausting, although I suppose if I removed her from my watchlist, I wouldn't know what she was doing unless she pinged me. I need to know if you object to my blocking her for WP:NOTHERE. If you've been following our dialog, you'll see that I have twice now told her that she can't keep editing her userspace, signing people's guestbooks, treating Wikipedia like social media, etc. After my last warning, she acknowledged the problem, saying "Now I will focus on improving the project, for good". Immediately after that, she made several edits to her userpage, her subpages, and signed yet another guestbook. So, I know I don't need your permission, and I would feel better if you endorsed the block, but I'll be satisfied with something like "I don't object". Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't object. I don't think there is any understanding as to the purpose of Wikipedia...yet. Maybe in a couple of years?-- Ponyo bons mots 21:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know. She might be more mature in a couple of years, but her repeated failure to heed warnings and, at the same time, she she will stop doing what she's been warned about, makes me wonder if chronological maturity will cure it. Hopefully, if she wants to come back here in a few years, she will not have created new accounts in the meantime.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Kids these days (yes, I said that!) create multiple social media accounts that they bounce around on. I imagine that's what's happened here, except we're not social media.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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A goat for you!
Ponyo, you are the G O A T. Thank you for your support.

Drmies (talk) 16:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC) 
 * Fired up by 9am; I'd barely even got a coffee in!-- Ponyo bons mots 16:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

LadybugStardust
For future reference, who was LadybugStardust a sock of? Or is that classified? Dronebogus (talk) 18:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The latter, for now. Frustrating, I know. Circumstances are...in flux at the moment.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * PS this IP is being a pest. They might be a proxy of LS trying to “help” by dragging me into teh dramahz fer lulz but I don’t play that game. Please block them as nothere/harassment and redact their contribs because I don’t appreciate links to hate sites on my talk page. Dronebogus (talk) 06:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

So
(not) surprised Thanks &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * .-- Ponyo bons mots 22:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Query
Hey, Ponyo,

I didn't know where to go with this question and I thought, "Hey, I haven't been to Ponyo's talk page in a while so I'll ask you!" So, here I am. If you don't know the answer, maybe you can point me in the right direction.

One of my daily, boring tasks is deleting orphaned talk pages. I've noticed that when admins do a mass page deletion of pages created by a block-evading sockpuppet, the deletion tool doesn't delete the talk pages associated with the articlea. Do you know how to fix this? I've only done mass deletion one or two times so I'm not sure who came up with the tool and where to request an adjustment. As a checkuser, I assume you have cause to use it more than I have so you might know how this glitch could be resolved. These orphaned talk pages eventually do get deleted (we have a nightly database report that sniffs them out) but it seems like it would be easier if they were deleted when the article pages are deleted.

Thanks and have a pleasant weekend! Liz Read! Talk! 02:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is mw:Extension:Nuke and is already reported on Phabricator as T95797 * Pppery * it has begun... 02:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Praveen Pathak
Hi, can you restore the article of Praveen Pathak in draft? I'll take responsibility for it. He is a former member of the Madhya Pradesh Legislative Assembly which means he passes WP:NPOL. MrMkG (talk) 13:11, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Since you are not here, I have recreated it myself now. But I would like to see what was in the old article, if there is more information I can get out of it. MrMkG (talk) 11:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Hi Ponyo! I just wanted to say, I am sorry for the whole sockpuppet incident and the whole (not) social media thing, I was not doing the right thing. So here is a kitten as an apology.

Neko UwU she/her  20:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC) 

Brudelman
Hello, Ponyo. I saw you were the admin giving them a block notice. It looks like they've made a personal attack (which I've since removed, saw on my watchlist). I haven't looked into their edit history enough to say that they're NOTHERE, but it was a bit discomforting to read. Not a great way to respond to criticism at all. jellyfish &#9993; 03:49, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Cancel that, Bbb23 blocked them for personal attacks. Thank you regardless! jellyfish &#9993; 05:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Negasonic Teenage Warhead
Hi Ponyo, I pinged you over at Talk:Negasonic Teenage Warhead but I'm reaching out here as well in case you don't see it. This article's history has been a mess primarily as the result of a sock associated with an IP you blocked, 84.220.219.37. I'm not sure if there's an SPI case page for this individual but I'm wondering if you could take a look at all the IPs I listed. I think there's a good case for a rangeblock if there isn't too much collateral damage in doing so. Uhai (talk) 00:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There is an SPI page for the banned master account, but I can't link IPs to accounts. I've made a note on the article talk page.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Joey Dickinson the Game of Thrones Ultrafan
This keeps happening. I know they're a sock but don't identify them as Raxythecat. Thanks for taking care of it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The tip-off for me. The unsuccessful ones always return to the scene of the crime.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't look closely enough at the history of that page.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Impersonation
Hello, and I'm here to inform you that Pnnyooszs seems to be copy-pasting all of your user pages. I don't think you are associated with the account, so I'm putting up a heads up here. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know. They've been blocked by .-- Ponyo bons mots 20:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Bothering you again
I'm looking at the following accounts:, , and. You CU-blocked Sssaaraa in October 2023, so unless there's some login data that I can't see, the account would be stale, although CU log data might be helpful. Your edit summary is "UPE studio spam", which doesn't help me much to identify other accounts connected with them. Anyway the latter two accounts seem to be the same person, even if they're not the same person as Sssaaraa, but I don't think the behavioral similarities are compelling enough for me to block without technical confirmation. Any illumination here?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I use "UPE studio spam" (or similar) when there's clear socking but I can't be bothered to try to pin down a master because the ranges are large and littered with accounts abusing Wikipedia to run their scams. God I hate these groups; they're such a soul-sucking waste of time and pixels. From my block log that day it appears that Sssaaraa was the same as and the accounts  were also related. I'll take a look at the other accounts you note now. --  Ponyo bons mots 20:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * and are ✅ to each other and now blocked. The ranges are too large and the UA too generic for me to pin them to a specific group. The CU tool timed out trying to check Perso007, the ranges are that large and busy. I see this though and it looks like possibly the same person?--  Ponyo bons mots 21:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ha, tell us how you really feel about it! I don't recall the CU tool ever timing out for me, and god knows I checked some busy ranges, but perhaps you've reached a new high low. :p As for Perso007, looks like a good fit to me, and I've blocked and tagged. Thanks much for your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppet
Hey there, in a follow-up to this from earlier this year, it appears this user is back editing under an IP. From the Editor Interaction Analyser, they have 7 articles in common with their last IP and they've only made roughly 20 edits. It's same set of articles, related pages for Mr. Robot or Kaiju. Thanks. Drovethrughosts (talk) 10:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The choice of articles between the 2 IPs is clearly not a coincidence, so I've duck blocked 208.56.161.40 for evasion of the block on 38.22.28.24. No comment as to whether the IPs are related to the accounts.-- Ponyo bons mots 17:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Concern
Hey, can you tell me what does that mean and tell me where can I go report in Wikipedia for my protection. And also, it seems like this person has alternative accounts. Can you look the edit history of Bangladesh and create a sockpuppet investigation for that? Mehedi Abedin 23:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you have concerns regarding the linked post you can contact Trust and Safety. If you believe there is ongoing sockpuppetry at Bangladesh, please start an SPI with WP:DIFFS included.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

WP:BKFIP
Hi, Ponyo. Recently you blocked User:Szpilt, and cited WP:BKFIP at Talk:Francis_Scott Key Bridge collapse. Two subsequent IP edits ( and ) to that article concern me, given the similar wording in the edit summary. Would you mind looking into this? MIDI (talk) 09:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The article has now been protected by . -- Ponyo bons mots 21:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

IP block exemption extention
Hi Ponyo,

I am currently IP block exempt until 14 June. I have these rights because I live in China during holidays. I am returning on the 18th of June, and I wish to edit during my time back, so I emailed the checkuser team two weeks ago, but I have gotten no response. Is it possible for me to get an extention on my rights? Thank you very much. Daftation <b style="color:white">🗩</b> <b style="color:white">🖉</b> 18:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * How long do you need it extended for?-- Ponyo bons mots 21:02, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Ponyo, thanks for the quick reply. I would say permanently but that is unlikely, so is it possible if I can get it for as long I can get? I live between China and UK throughout the year. Thank you very much. <b style="color:white">Daftation</b> <b style="color:white">🗩</b> <b style="color:white">🖉</b> 21:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've extended the IPBE for an additional 6 months.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I will notify you for another extension if I need one (probably for Christmas). <b style="color:white">Daftation</b> <b style="color:white">🗩</b> <b style="color:white">🖉</b> 21:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you!-- Ponyo bons mots 21:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Why
...you hating on Zack. Zack is good. Drmies (talk) 21:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Zackiscreatingtoomanyaccounts. That's what Zack is.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

DemoJoker47
Hi Ponyo. I was asked to take a look at the edit warring since I had done the previous block. Two weeks seems a little long. Would you consider a shorter block or a warning? After considering a week-long block or perhaps a month-long partial block, I was about to leave this warning: The main reason I wanted to try one more warning is that it doesn't look like anyone has actually pointed the new editor at MOS:ACCLAIMED and the edits were so slow motion that it seemed reasonable to try another warning. Even if you decide against shortening the block, I still want to leave a note so please let me know what you decide. Thanks for taking another look. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:04, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll reduce the block to 72 hours, but they have repeatedly tried to force their preferred wording into Fallout (American TV series) despite your block for the same behaviour just two weeks ago and have still avoided the related talk page discussion. -- Ponyo bons mots 23:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I agree with your assessment. I just want to make a stronger effort to explain the guidelines and how things work. And I'll do that now. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I can definitely be grumpy and jaded, so thanks for prodding me to review the block length.-- Ponyo bons mots 23:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

History of the Chair protection level
The current level of protection at History of the chair is not slowing the vandalism efforts much. Right now we are getting a lot of IP disruption at article talk and people attempting to insert pending changes to the body. It is getting frustrating - any chance you could increase the protection level temporarily? Simonm223 (talk) 13:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Trout me I saw you already did it. Guess it's just cleanup now. Simonm223 (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Mass deletion of sock articles
Hello, Ponyo,

I think I mentioned this to you before but, to be honest, the past three weeks have been kind of blur to me dealing with a relative in hospice care.

But you did a mass deletion of pages created by a sock earlier today. Unfortunately, whatever tool you use doesn't delete talk pages at the same time so there were 52 talk pages that had to be deleted later (see User:Liz/Test for a list). Is there any way this mass deletion tool could also delete the accompanying talk pages at the same time? I'm not sure who developed this editing tool to make a request on their talk page. Thanks. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:44, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry Liz, the talk pages will only be deleted if they were also created by the same sock account (which is a new feature in and of itself). User:Samwalton9 (WMF) and hist team have taken over the Nuke extension tool. If you notice I've done this in the future, please just give me a nudge and I'll go through and delete the talk pages myself manually - no need for you to have to clean up after me!-- Ponyo bons mots 15:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ponyo Thanks for the ping - this is a feature we'd still like to add at some point. As an easy stopgap we added talk page links to the list of pages to be deleted, so that you can at least see in advance which pages have talk pages. T95797 is the relevant ticket - we worked on a mockup for what the feature could look like (we'd love to know what you think), but I can't promise we'll actually work on it in the near future. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks ; that would certainly be a nice feature (once available).-- Ponyo bons mots 15:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I'm sorry I wasn't able to rev-delete prior to you seeing that garbage. Thank you for what all you do here. -- Ponyo bons mots 20:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ponyo, this is probably related to Talk:Gays Against Groomers, right? There's those two SPAs, a few IPs... Drmies (talk) 15:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Crouch, Swale
Hey Ponyo, I hope I'm not disturbing you, but I'm asking this on your talk page because you're a checkuser and may know something about this. My question is, if Crouch, Swale has multiple blocked (maybe locked) socks, then why is the sockmaster themself not blocked? Just curious. If you reply here, please ping me. Thank you,  thetechie@enwiki  :  ~/talk/  $  00:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * And please do not ping the user in question.  thetechie@enwiki  :  ~/talk/  $  00:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , you can see what happened here. Not every block is a death sentence. Drmies (talk) 00:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Thank you, Drmies, that clears it up. (PS: Note to Ponyo herself, I hope that you aren't too annoyed at the edit I made to your user page, I'm in Pacific Time too and the time wasn't right (I think it was on PST, so an hour behind)).  thetechie@enwiki  :  ~/talk/  $  01:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ponyo was likely having dessert (huge fan of creme brulee), which is why I stepped in. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Mmmmmm....Crème brûlée. At dinner the other night dessert was a trio of mini brûlées - vanilla, chocolate and earl grey. Positively delightful.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Mmm wie het breed heeft laat het breed hangen, hè? Drmies (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Google translate spit out something rather...suggestive.-- Ponyo bons mots 16:35, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * "whoever has it broad, let it hang widely"? Should be "lets"--it's not an injunction, but a statement of fact. The first "it" pertains to one's purse; the second to one's spending pattern, with the suggestion that it is done in a very visible manner. Don't know if that helps. ;) Drmies (talk) 16:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow, I came back here again (through another rabbit hole), and what a conversation here. Hope you both are well, and thank you both for your help tot the project.<span id="TheTechie:1716512704302:User_talkFTTCLNPonyo" class="FTTCmt"> —  thetechie@enwiki  :  ~/talk/  $  01:05, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I saw this user manually undo one of your reverts of a now-blocked sock's edits. Given that this account is only two hours old, and has made no other edits, I don't see this as coincidental. I thought I'd bring this to your attention, since I just stumbled upon this. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . The revert showed up in my notifications and I've blocked the sock. I'll cobble together a quick SPI for easier tracking.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I decided to add the CU findings to Sockpuppet investigations/Pranay Chopde and leave it to a Clerk whether to split the Ageofwars group to a separate SPI.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry about that
I wasn't aware that it applied to blocked editors as well. Fred Zepelin (talk) 20:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem, it's a common misconception - that's why I linked the policy in my edit summary.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was educational, appreciate it. Fred Zepelin (talk) 21:05, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

A possible IP sock
You may wish to block the IP editor on the Carlos Lehder page and revdel their edit summaries. Thanks. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 16:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You complaining as if we were in elementary school. You are a crybaby.--186.154.184.160 (talk) 16:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Not gonna say anything to that. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 16:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Toyota Camry V6 Petition
Camry XV80 has a special link on there at the bottom.

URL: carbuzz.com/camry-fans-petitioning-toyota-bring-v6-back/ - 2600:8801:9B13:EC00:A0CE:4DD6:C16B:598E (talk) 23:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's trivia at best. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of everything related to a topic, no matter how tenuous. -- Ponyo bons mots 23:12, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Why?
Mel Brooks keeps popping into my head. Why is that? You think it's because Wikipedia is sometimes a little like Blazing Saddles? Also, I keep hearing the song "Springtime for Hitler", and if I have to hear (non-classical) songs in my head, I'd prefer some romantic ballad like "Anyone at All" (You've Got Mail). Do you think Hanks died his hair in YGM? It just strikes me as way too black; I keep expecting it to run.

One more rambling note. We're having duck tonight. Yay! --Bbb23 (talk) 20:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hum, remember User:MONGO? Haven't seen them around in ages. Do you think Hanks died his hair when he dyed his hair (which makes me think of D'yer Mak'er, for some reason)? Loose association is fun! Dinner tonight is Harissa Honey-Glazed Chickpea Bowl with Roasted Veggies & Yogurt Dill Sauce.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:24, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh god, I can't even spell dyed. The 5-spice sauce for tonight's duck is also honey-glazed. I love yogurt dill sauce. I remember the username, hard to forget. Didn't know they were so young or that they were born on January 18 (I know someone very well who was born on that day, although not the same year).--Bbb23 (talk) 20:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * More idiocy from me. MONGO meant they were born on Wikipedia in 2005. I'm checking my brain in at the door.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's been a long day and it's only half past one. Any day I have to post more than once at AN/I is bound to be an exhausting one. I'd quit while I was ahead, but that time frame past about 2 hours ago.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't want to top you, but I was (indirectly) brought to AN earlier today. So many admins, so much pissing in the wind, so much nastiness. BTW, you should put diced cucumber, Persian if you have it, in your dill yogurt. Really good.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That would be tzatziki! (Yum).-- Ponyo bons mots 21:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yup. There's a middle eastern restaurant in town we used to go to, and many of their dishes came with tzatziki. Sometimes, I'd buy a pint of it to take home and eat it as a snack with pita. Haven't been in ages.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I fell asleep from traveling in the plane last night and now I have extreme chest pains. It reaaaaalllly hurts. My cousin kept telling me it's acidity reflux, but it's definitely more related to pain in my muscles. Ouch. :( NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you’re planning to treat it with tzatziki, I recommend extra mint & garlic. ;) —Odysseus 1 4 7  9  06:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

75.91.45.205
Honestly, I think they're trolling anyway, I'm not buying the "celebrate Jewish excellence" explanation.  Acroterion   (talk)   18:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Totally trolling; end result is the same, however...-- Ponyo bons mots 18:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Interstate Best
Noticed some more activity in the edit filter log. Perhaps a third account?  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 00:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Likely confirmed with this edit. I'm inclined to open an SPI. I also think WP:CIR applies here. GSK (talk • edits) 00:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Might just be weird
I noticed 's comments at Sockpuppet investigations/Lokicat3345, which were made after I closed the report. WVWX was created on June 1, and they've already amassed almost 300 edits, many of which are weather-related, along with a slew of redirects and bothering every user known to man about Draft:list of particularly dangerous situation watches, which they call an "abandoned draft". They don't look like Lokicat to me, but they could be some other weather sock, and their editing is certainly suspicious enough.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Well it's not this master, and nothing obvious popped up for or he would have mentioned it in the report. I'll see if the behavioural evidence aligns with anyone else, though I'm guessing they just edited as an IP a lot before creating the account.-  Ponyo bons mots 15:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the history of IP editing prior to account creation is most likely, unless new evidence comes to light.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I hadn't noticed the June 5 report, sorry. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I briefly glanced at this and noticed an IP that has been editing for several months that stopped right after this user began editing. I'd lean towards "they finally registered". Edit: Not a CU statement, spotted this just through article histories. -- ferret (talk) 15:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hey, I have a question! If I use the  template at SPI, does that ring a bell somewhere that alerts the Stewards that a lock is needed? Or am I only supposed to use it if I, myself, have requested a global lock somewhere? I've asked this before but I don't remember the answer.--  Ponyo bons mots 17:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm flattered - and surprised - that you think I know anything about templates. That said, my best guess is it creates a pretty image and that's all. In some cases those icons/cues can be used to categorize things, e.g., in the SPI table. If that's done with glr, I don't know where you'd find that. My suggestion is you ask someone more knowledgeable, like  or . General Notability would be great, but he hasn't been around in quite some time.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. I've seen you use it at SPI. Do you only add it when you've made a request to the Stewards for a global lock?-- Ponyo bons mots 18:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It'd help if you'd refresh my memory. It must be quite a while ago. I know I used to use those pretty things when I was a CU but since I haven't, I just use unadorned prose. In the old days, the SPI helper script didn't have the ability to request global locks, and I never liked going to Meta - still don't - so what I recall doing was pinging stewards at SPI and asking - made my life easier. I believe sometimes, I requested glocks on en.wiki but outside of SPI by going to the steward's Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess I'm thinking of this which I saw today. You're correct, you just wrote it out the old-fashioned way.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd like to amend my answer on one point. It's not the "clerk request" template that causes the categorization of the SPI table. I'm fairly sure it's changing the case status to "clerk" that does that.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks like the template just posts an image without doing any magic. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Possible sock
Hi, could you check if this account is a sockpuppet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hidolo Its a newly registered single-purpose account who does nothing other than adding "far-right" or similar to political parties, even if the statement is not supported by sources (eg. here, he/she added "far-right" 1, even though it was not mentioned anywhere is the provided source 1 and was describing a completely different party). The user seems to already be familiar with tagging users and WP:3O (1) which leads me to believe that this is not the first time this person has edited here -- FMSky (talk) 16:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Without more specific evidence and/or a suspected master, this would be a bit of a fishing expedition. This may be better reviewed via AN/I.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm out the door too, but,, you can consider filing at [Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AndresHerutJaim]], and asking User:KrakatoaKatie or User:Maxim or User:Sdrqaz to have a look: they are the most recent three CUs to have looked at one of the ranges they are editing on--but there have been a half dozen more CUs looking on that range. (Ponyo, the edits looked familiar to me--the political tagging) I'm not familiar enough with that user, sorry. Drmies (talk) 22:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Visa policy of Albania
Dear Ponyo, Can you explain to me why you returned the notification for the visa agreement with Azerbaijan to the Future changes section?

- I made that change because it has now entered into force as an agreement and it makes no sense to add it as information because it causes confusion among readers.

- One more thing, if it is possible for you to change the color to green on the map "Visa policy of Albania" for the state of Azerbaijan?

Thank you Brizton (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to restore any edits of yours that I may have inadvertently reverted while cleaning up after a prolific block evader.-- Ponyo bons mots 20:07, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit count
Who cares how many edits you have? I have WAY more than you do. Like Wikipedia articles, it's not quality but quantity that matters. So stuff that in your you-have-more-hats-than-I-do, and my agent fee is going up by 10% effective 30 days from now. You have the right to cancel the agency with a 165,000+ early cancellation fee.

On a wholly related topic, where did I get the idea that Bishonen lives in Canada? Or at least that other commonwealth country, England?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You thought Bish was Canadian? 'Zilla doesn't mind her "please" an "thank yous" and Darwinbish is never sorry. Also, appreciate the 30 day notice - I'll be away for a chunk of July and will get my $$$$'s worth well before the increase kicks in. --  Ponyo bons mots 22:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll be away for a chunk of July. And now you know why your edit count is less than mine. You still have this ridiculous notion that you should have a life outside Wikipedia. Stuff and nonsense. Have fun, wherever you're off to.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:22, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Exotic Alberta locales await!-- Ponyo bons mots 22:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Ponyo, thanks for protecting the Antarpat (TV series) and Abeer Gulal redirects. There's more so I need to put something together at the very least for a RFPP request. I keep coming across them while researching another sock/UPE farm and was planning to file an SPI but set it aside. Do you think an SPI will be useful given these are IPs? Part of me feels like it should be documented but I am also lazy so there's that too lol. S0091 (talk) 18:45, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * SPI is really poor at dealing with India-based UPE like this - the ranges and ISPs are just too dynamic for blocks to be effective. Protection is a blunter tool, but one of the only left available, unfortunately.-- Ponyo bons mots 18:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will pursue protection. Thanks again.  S0091 (talk) 19:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Pages needed attention
These pages required protection against disruption by same sockfarm especially by and  these pages are being continuesly vandalized by same sockGroup see these pages if are eligible for the protection, Siege of Ontala (1599) Chavda (Rajput clan),Vaghela (Rajput clan), because these all pages were redirected by, for poor sources/no coverage and  Siege_of_Ontala_(1599) was redirected after AFD-discusion by .223.123.1.23 (talk) 13:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've protected the redirects for Siege of Ontala (1599) and Vaghela (Rajput clan) due to the history of socking in both and the AfD outcome of Siege of Ontala (1599). Chavda (Rajput clan) isn't as clear cut; it can be protected if there is additional disruption.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! For digging into every page's history separately and PP. For Chavda (Rajput clan), Chavda dynasty, Vaghela dynasty, List of battles in Rajasthan or other pages where this sockfarm has been disrupting for the last 2_3 years, I'll ask later for PP if they bring new entries through new accounts, but generally dynasties-related pages like Vaghela dynasty and Chavda dynasty do not require any protection as such pages are regularly being watched by Wiki volunteers. 223.123.6.206 (talk) 18:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

revdel
Per advice from Nickps, I am requesting the revdel of all edits in User:Immanuelle related to my tagging, since I see you in CAT:RFRD. - Altenmann >talk 21:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't see how any of the revision deletion criteria apply to your edits (unless I missed something egregious). I think it best we just chalk it up to a learning experience and move on.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Political usernames
Neighhh, my little Ponyo. These two accounts were created six hours apart, and have been taken to WP:UAA by two separate users:



said she didn't think they were bad enough to block since they hadn't edited, which made several people angry. But I've got a different angle: we don't actually see a lot of usernames of this nature. Isn't it likely those two are socks? Is it possible to CU them without contributions? Bishonen &#124; tålk 22:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC).


 * Most accounts don't edit so we have a very very high threshold for blocking ones that haven't edited. Secretlondon (talk) 23:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't reject them either, I left them open for others to deal with if they wanted to. Secretlondon (talk) 23:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry for being defensive. Secretlondon (talk) 23:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I know you left them open for others, and altogether I didn't mean to criticise you, Secretlondon — I don't feel strongly either way about blocking those accounts — I was only thinking of a possible sock angle. What do you think, aren't they likely to be one and the same? Bishonen &#124; tålk 23:28, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
 * Even if they are socks, we don't normally block no-contribution socks unless there's an earlier master. I suspect they're different people getting ready for tomorrow's debate.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually User:Alexf blocked them. Secretlondon (talk) 09:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Trolling or socks is immaterial. The names were eminently blockable. There is no place here for political discussion with usernames. -- Alexf(talk) 11:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Under "Usernames that are likely to offend other contributors or cause disruption to productive Wikipedia processes or discussions, or make harmonious editing difficult or impossible to achieve; e.g. by containing profanities, or referencing highly contentious events or controversies."? There's nothing in the policy explicitly about politics. Secretlondon (talk) 17:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

I would have blocked the Joebiden account as an attack name regardless of whether they've edited or not. Probably would've left the Trump one until they edited, then go from there. . As they're both blocked now, any socking aspect is moot.-- Ponyo bons mots 15:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Sock
Hi! I'm pretty sure this is another sock for BKeira930. Doctorhawkes (talk) 10:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. Thanks,-- Ponyo bons mots 15:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)