User talk:Ponyo/Archives/February/2011

Hello
Hi, sorry to bother you but how can you revert long vandalism? Is there any easy way? Thanks.--NovaSkola (talk) 07:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not completely sure what you mean, perhaps you could provide an example? If you are asking how to deal with long term vandalism, then WP:LTA has some advice as to how to deal with the reporting of such accounts and an area where you can log information that will be helpful in assisting other editors to detect the vandal. You can also keep the notes on a subpage of your userpage, or, as I do, keep a separate file off-wiki in order to track specific long term vandals. I prefer this method as it helps avoid WP:BEANS, that is I keep a list of the long term vandal's typical tell-tale behaviours, but they cannot view it in order to change said behaviours to avoid detection. --Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  14:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Congrats!


From the looks of it, it seems you passed your RFA! Good job, early congrats! T ofutwitch11  (T ALK ) 17:17, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, congrats. That was relatively civilized for an RfA.  The Interior  (Talk) 17:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You've made it through the gauntlet and arrived safely in the land of never-ending backlogs =). Now go forth, and do good unto the wiki. – xeno talk 17:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the well wishes everyone! I was unaware it had closed until a bunch of new tabs popped up when I went to edit a page. I think I have a lot of reading ahead of me....--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:NAS is a good place to start. admin dashboard is useful for finding places where you can push buttons ;> – xeno talk 17:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * oh, and here's your crappy t-shirt! -- Perseus, Son of Zeus ✉ sign here   18:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Congrats! J04n(talk page) 18:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * More congrats here! Well done!  --j &#9883; e deckertalk to me 19:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats. Although the result wasn't really ambiguous, I'm sure it was nerve racking! I'm sure you'll do a great job, but you know where I am if you need anything and you might find some useful scripts in my monobook.js. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats to you as well - no more pressure on your bit! --Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * My congratulations also; and thanks for keeping an eye on my Talk page. If I had known you were running for admin, you could of course have counted upon my support. Cheers. Rodhull  andemu  01:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Rod - and hopefully I won't have to lean on you so much in the future. Your help has always been so appreciated! --Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 03:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Enjoy the backlogs that xeno mentioned! Reaper Eternal (talk) 03:31, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations! It was one of my rare early !votes and I  wasn't  proven wrong. It was also  one of my rare comments on  another part of the page. We need more editors like you to come forward, and I hope you'll take a continued interest in the process that got you there. All the best, Kudpung (talk) 06:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm late as ever, but congratulations. You'll do good :) Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Bill Landreth
Done (sorry, read it too quickly)-- SPhilbrick  T  19:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Responding to my talk page post
Thanks, it's worth a lot. I've seen Malik Shabazz a lot, and have a lot of respect for him, so I didn't take that decision lightly. My hope is that it will be a "oh, duh, of course" moment, but it is good to have independent corroboration in case there's a disagreement.-- SPhilbrick  T  15:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree; there was certainly a valid assertion of notability, therefore it needs to go to AfD if it doesn't meet specific WP:N criteria. As a newbie admin I'm surprised at how many articles are tagged as A7 when it doesn't apply.--<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 15:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Blurb on you

 * Hi, could you check the blurb? Tony   (talk)  05:51, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks fine Tony, thank you for checking. Would it be possible to pipe "BLP clean-ups" to WP:URBLPR? A little extra advertisement never hurts! --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 14:08, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Rudi Bass
Hi Ponyo, thanks for all the help so far re: the Rudi Bass article. Can you tell me how to switch his article over from articles about living persons to the section about non-living persons (deceased)? I already provided the Obit as a reference and I changed the coding in the bottom of the page to "2011 deaths", so what more do I have to do? Julie329 (talk) 21:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Julie - there was a parameter in the Biograpahy project template that needed to be updated. I have done this for you. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 21:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Geneca
Hi Ponyo, had a quick question as to why my corporate site was just deleted. Can you please let me know what I need to change in order to have it meet the necessary criteria? Thanks! Lunchcar513 —Preceding undated comment added 20:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC).
 * There were two overriding factors that lead to the deletion. The first was that the article was purely promotional in nature and the fact that you work for the company creates a clear conflict of interest. I understand that it was likely not your intention to create a self-promotional article, however it is very hard to create a completely neutral article when you are clearly involved. If the company is truly notable by Wikipedia standards, the article will be created eventually. The second factor leading to the deletion was that it was a copyright violation of www.geneca.com., and under Wikipedia's stringent copyright policies we cannot host the material. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 20:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your guidance. I think the author deleted his page. I will do my best to help keep Wikipedia clean. Johnclean184 (talk) 17:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The author's talk page is here; I notified them on your behalf. Thank you for your efforts with regard to reviewing new articles; just ensure that you carefully read through the WP:CSD and WP:PROD requirements and guidelines to ensure you have a firm grasp on the various deletion policies. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 17:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Festus
I've prod blped it, but it looks a C&P of a Wikipedia article - possibly previously deleted. Have a look - it's got a contents box in it (without the box...). Peridon (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought there was a dropoff - that confirms C&P to me... Peridon (talk) 20:45, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I noticed the same thing and did a search before declining to see if it had been previously deleted. I tried different variations on the name and checked for deleted histories and I found....nothing. I'll dig a little deeper and let you know if I find anything. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 20:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ta. I can't find much evidence for the claims made. Strange... Peridon (talk) 21:04, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I deleted it as a blatant hoax - none of the information is verifiable; no matter which variation of the name you use he has 0 G-hits outside of Wikipedia and mirrors; the movies mentioned (despite having "critical acclaim" and being "award-winning") apparently do not exists; and finally I think he cut and pasted another filmbio and blanked the content (save for the index that does not even match his article) in order to give it a credible appearance. Festus is welcome to prove me wrong in which case I can briefly restore the article to his userspace to be worked on, however I don't believe that will likely be necessary. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 21:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Redirect
Sorry about deleting the redirect, I was unsure about why what I had written had been deleted and simply recopied the information back. I believed that that page should probably be a redirect to start with, but was unsure about how to create one! Pizza21 (talk) 17:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you understand, I wasn't certain I was explaining the need for a redirect clearly. If you are keen to start a new article from scratch the WP:Article wizard is a good tool and Your first article has a great deal of useful information. If you have any questions you can drop a note here, or you can post along with your question on your talk page and someone will come by to assist you. There is also a group of fellow editors at Help desk if you're stuck. Happy editing! --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots  17:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Munch
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Raheem Sterling
Trying not to use any disparaging language, but you are a bit of a tool - more specifically a Canadian tool - who should know where the limitations of their knowledge resides. You have deleted a (yes, poorly written) article for the 5th time, not fully realising that the personage (football, or soccer for you, player) is of national interest. Not Canadian national interest, but British. Thus, hundreds, thousands perhaps, are going to the page looking for some information. I - a non-wiki contributor - did what I could to quickly correct the inaccuracies, and horrific writing and to cite the information better. As I'm only a lowly Oxford DPhil student I accept that I know little of the formulaic standards or conventions of your strange wiki world. The article was left in crude, though generally correct, shape - for fanatics like you to then polish to their hearts content into something useful. You, however, re-deleted it in about 20 seconds without thinking there may be something in this wide world outside the scope of your limited knowledge ("Articles are not created in anticipation of notability"). Are all people from BC in a position to decide what constitutes notoriety 5000 miles away, or is it just you??

The way it had been left, at least the millions of Liverpool and England football fans (that's soccer for you) would be able to get some basic bio information on the person who is about to replace Michael Owen in the national consciousness (again, I expect a blank stare from you). Of course this enormous group of non-canadian readers could go to the recently published article by Sky Sports, BBC Sport, The Guardian, The Times, The Independent, the LA Times etc. to get information about this apparently "Non Notable Athlete", but I assume part of the function of Wikipedia is that they shouldn't have to. I was particularly impressed on how you deleted the page after, I'm sure, not having read the edits - just assuming it was same old. In fact, now (or until you deleted it) it was short and correct, and would have been added to over the next week. As it stands, others - not you - will have to start from scratch.

Long story short, you should probably confine yourself to your fish bowl in future (I would think that would encompass the Pacific North West, but that might be stretching it). And as I know your response will be blah blah wiki protocol blah blah has to be in the Vancouver Sun or they aren't famous...you can save it. As I mentioned, I'm only a humble academic and not an elevated, pompous wiki "git" like you.

Best,

Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onbeyondzebra (talk • contribs) 00:47, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just for the record I've come to wikipedia to find out more about Raheem Sterling during my lunch break, since the guy was mentioned in the national news this morning, and was surprised to find that the article about him had been deleted. I wouldn't use the language of the contributor above, but deleting the article would appear to fit with examples of transatlantic 'cultural imperialism' that I've come across on wikipedia before.  Daveofthenewcity (talk) 13:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * There have been several points raised regarding the deletion and it appears there is some confusion as to how and why the article was deleted. Firstly I would like to dispel the view that the deletion was somehow due to regional bias; Wikipedia is designed to counter any regional bias via guidelines and policies that cover all regions equally - for example, the notability criteria applies to all articles; there are no regional exceptions in order to ensure every article is judged by the same measure. Secondly, I did not delete the article due to the fact that Sterling did not meet WP:NFOOTY; this was decided by a group of various editors who commented at this AfD discussion. Note that almost all of the delete votes are from British editors, so once agian this is not a North American bias. The article was subsequently recreated without addressing the WP:NFOOTY/WP:ATHLETE issue that led to the first deletion and it was therefore tagged for speedy deletion as a recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. The tag was applied by another editor and subsequently deleted by another admin yesterday; after that deletion the article was simply recreated repeatedly. It contained very little other than conjecture at what could possibly happen. From the looks of it Sterling is well on his way to having a prosperous football career; once he actually plays in a match for Liverpool then he'll meet the notability criteria, overcoming the issues at the first AfD, and the article can be restored and rewritten. You may also take the speedy deletion to deletion review where you can argue why the deletion is inappropriate and see if there is consensus to restore the article. I know this is a lot of info to absorb, so please let me know if anything needs clarification or if you have any additional questions. <b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 14:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * However, notability criteria are a matter of guidelines, not policies. This boy has been the subject of an article in the LA Times, which is unusual for a British footie player. True, the version just deleted does sink to citing the Daily Wail, but this somewhat febrile article in the Guardian refers to the boy as a "prodigious talent", which (translated from alcoholically fueled British journalistic hyperbole) means that he's rather good. -- Hoary (talk) 01:11, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If any admin is interested in removing the protection and undeleting it in order to turn it into somethig other than a puff piece then I have no issues with them doing so. I've also offered to userfy for anyone interested on working on it if that's preferable. All I had to work with was an article recreated several times in one day that did not address the issue for which it was deleted the first time. My only comment regarding notability in the deletion process was in response to the talk page comment "Surely makes sense to at least wait until Thursday before making a decision on deletion" to which my response was "Articles are not created in anticipation of notability". Once again, if you disagree, please feel free to undo my deletion (perhaps with a quick note to User:JamesBWatson as he deleted it as G4 yesterday as well). Cheers, --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 02:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just restored it. He seems to be a media cynosure, which by itself makes him notable by WP's bio standards. I'll put a little time into the article (only a little, because I know next to nothing about football). -- Hoary (talk) 02:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool - as long as someone is watching it; I can imagine it becoming a bit of a magnet for unsourced commentary and possible BLP issues for the foreseeable future. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 02:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The article claims that something happened (past tense) in May of this year, and that he plays for a football team but that it hasn't yet been decided whether he'll represent that team. Probably just hurried writing to blame here, and the original writer can return and improve. As for me, I've had enough; though yes, I will keep it on my watchlist, at least for a little while. -- Hoary (talk) 03:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree; I think if recreation had been put off a little longer than the article would have had a firmer foundation against any future challenges. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 03:13, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right. But there'd be so many time-wasting complaints from soccer fans. Let them have their article and improve it -- and it already seems to be undergoing improvement. &para; Well, I arrived here on this talk page to ask you about something entirely unrelated to soccer, but was deflected by this soccer stuff. I think I've already wasted enough of your time for a few hours. Back later. -- Hoary (talk) 03:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Page deleted
Hello Ponyo,

Nice meeting you. I saw you deleted "Wormhole web conference" ‎

I can't understand the reason why because there are at least 20 other pages talking about different Web conferences services and products and none of them were deleted.

It is not an advertisement page but a way to show another provider and that is why I published part of the story of the team that might inspire other entrepreneurs.

Thanks a lot for your time
 * I understand that you are frustrated that your article was deleted, however it was clearly created in order to promote a company or product; even your username is linked to the company. It creates a conflict of interest and makes it nearly impossible to write neutrally regarding the subject. If the company meets Wikipedia's notability criteria, then an uninvolved editor will one day create an article on Wormhole web conference. Regarding the appearance of similar companies on Wikipedia, well, other stuff exists. There are a number of articles here that probably should not be, however that does not exempt Wormhole from needing to abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 21:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

...and congratulations on your new mop. It will change your life more than you think! JohnCD (talk) 23:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Nigar Talibova
Hello. Can I ask you, who are you, and why you change the information. You write incorrect information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellenarka (talk • contribs) 18:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I am a friend Nigar. She asked me to amend the information. I also want to download her latest photos. By the way you opened the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellenarka (talk • contribs) 18:25, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

hi. how are you? my name is nigar talibova. i told my friend elllenarka,her full name elnara.i want have correct info about my self. how you know me? also we want show my last pic. thnx:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikachapa (talk • contribs) 18:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello to both of you - I believe that you are somewhat mistaken as to how Wikipedia works; any editor is able to edit articles as long as the information they are adding is compliant to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. In this case there are a number of issue with regard to how you are editing. First, the information you are adding must be verifiable through the use of reliable sources. Adding information based only on your own personal knowledge is considered original research and is not allowed. Secondly, editing articles about yourself or someone with whom you are affiliated is strongly discouraged as it is a conflict of interest. Finally, Wikipedia should not be used a way of promoting an individual or their products. I know it seems like a lot of information, but neutrality and verifiability are a pillar of Wikipedia editing, so please do read through the links I've provided. If you would like to make any changes to the article, I suggest describing what changes you would like to make (along with a source that we can use to verify the information) on the article talk page and it can be added to the article on your behalf. With regard to adding an image, please see Uploading images where there are instructions as to how to proceed. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 19:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Lori Lethin
Hi, I added a page for 80/90s actress Lori Lethin as I noticed she doesn't have a wikipedia page. She has many movie and television credits, so this isn't a name I am making up.

What do I need to do to make sure this article doesn't get deleted? I can link it to other wiki pages as her name appears in other pages on wikipedia as well.

Lorilethinfanpage (talk) 01:49, 24 February 2011 (UTC)Lorilethinfanpage
 * The reason that the article was deleted was that the article was promotional in nature. The purpose of Wikipedia is to present information on notable subjects in a neutral fashion. The fact that you are trying to create an article on Lori Lethin under the username "Lorilethinfanpage" does not provide me with any confidence that you will be able to write an article in a non-promotional manner. If Lethin meets Wikipedia's notability criteria, then someone will likely create an article on her. If you are sure that you are able to write a completely neutral article without any promotional elements, then I suggest you use the article wizard to guide you through the process; note however that if the article is still mainly promotional in nature and lacks reliable sources, it may be deleted again. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 02:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Why did you delete my article Lazybones Laundry & Storage?
Let me know, please. Thanks. [redact] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.48.224 (talk) 20:51, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I deleted a redirect that led nowhere - the text of your article was deleted by another administrator as unambiguous advertising or promotion. Having read through the deleted text, I would have to agree. Wikipedia is not meant to be used as a means of promotion, and creating articles on subjects with which you are affiliated is a conflict of interest. Note that I have redacted the email you provided above in order to protect your privacy and to prevent any spam issues on your end. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots  21:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Ron Atanasio
Thanks for helping out with this article. Regards, P. D. Cook  Talk to me! 19:47, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Happy to help. I have the article watchlisted now so I should be able to catch any future problems, but if I miss something just drop me a note here and I'll follow up. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 19:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Atletico Beograd
Am not convinced that the article was a hoax. I was just about to add a "hang on" tag when you deleted the article and had already added a reference. Nipson anomhmata  (Talk) 20:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to restore it if you have any evidence it's not a hoax. Were you able to find a reference to it somewhere? --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 20:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not much of a reference granted. But it does have a shield for Atletico Beograd: http://fy.hattrick.org/Club/?TeamID=1105461&BrowseIds=
 * Could be worth reinstating as a slow delete.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 20:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've left a note at the AfD; my computer has blocked the link from opening, which doesn't give me a very good feeling about it. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 20:50, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure why. I can see the URL fine. Was just thinking that you might give the article the benefit of the doubt and open it up for a slow AfD.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 05:38, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delay in responding, my wireless connection has been down since around 2pm yesterday. I have restored the article and advised the editor who nominated it for AfD. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 15:31, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of article AFACT
Hello,

I've just logged in to find the article on AFACT deleted for the reason of "A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)"

The organisation "AFACT" is currently embroiled in a landscape changing lawsuit against Australian ISP iiNet, the outcome of which will change the politics, policy and laws concerning fair use, internet access and copyright for decades.

The document "AFACT" is linked from several other wikipedia web pages - indicating that an article describing what an "AFACT" is needs to exist.

The page submitted did state what the significance of this entry is. Terms of:

1. This is a company formed in Australia comprised of American companies

2. This is a company deemed to be acting in bad faith - the name "Australian .... " is misleading - given that the organisations behind this company are Americian.

3. AFACT is currently suing an Australian ISP in an attempt to change Australian copyright law enforcement. This case may soon go to the high court of Australia.

Given this information, as it was provided, I would like to know how the information provided has been deemed to be non-important or insignificant

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattDeBlack (talk • contribs) 04:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * None of the three points that you have made above assert any degree of importance at this time. It appears that you believe that there are current events that may eventually lead to important case law changes; if that occurs then it would definitely be possible to create an article asserting significance for these events. The article as it was written was very negative and did not adhere to Wikipedia's policy regarding presenting a neutral point of view. I would suggest beginning an article via WP:Articles for creation, where others can view the article prior to posting it to ensure it meets all relevant criteria. You can also create the article in your user space, adding information as the case develops, and then posting it once it meets notability criteria. <b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 05:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for responding. I shall look into this as suggested. MattDeBlack (talk) 05:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Drafting an article in your userspace (such as here:User:MattDeBlack/AFACT would give you time to work on the article without the risk of early deletion. You can then move it to main article space when you're satisfied that it's well-sourced and presented neutrally. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 15:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Frank A. McClintock

 * I have undeleted Frank A. McClintock. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 17:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Inniscarra Sailing and Kayaking Club
Hi, is the following article ok? Groarke (talk) 22:39, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Inniscarra Sailing and Kayaking Club
The club is situated at "Inishleena Recreation Area" on the northern shore of Inniscarra Lake, just west of Inniscarra Dam in County Cork. Here sailors and kayakers do not have to worry about reading tide tables or dealing with tidal currents. The hills around the lake provide more protection from the more severe winds encountered on the Cork coastline.

The lake provides ideal conditions for racing radio controlled one meter sailboats with smaller waves than those experienced on the coastline. The Irish National IOM Championships were held at the club in 2010 and the 2011 Southern Championships are due to be held at the club in November.

Other water sports held on the lake include rowing at the National Rowing Centre upstream at Farran Woods and water skiing at Cork Powerboat & Waterski Club in Dripsey.

The club holds kayaking and sailing events throughout the year. The most popular events are the Sunday morning sailing sessions at 10:30 am and the midweek kayaking sessions to Griffins Garden Centre for coffee or tea.

The main events of the year are usually held in September with the Commodore's Shield for kayakers and the Commodore's Cup for dinghy sailors

The club is a Category 1 member of the Irish Sailing Association and organises ISA accredited sail training and powerboat courses. For further information and contact details, visit the club's website www.corksailing.com
 * I can't see the deleted article any more, but there are two issues that spring to mind: (1) not every club or organisation is notable, and this needs to be supported by independent reliable sources; e.g. holding a notable national event, (2) Wikipedia isn't meant to be used for promotion or advertising, and the text of the article seems to me to be very close to that, (3) you can't in general, just use text from your own website here unless that website explicitly releases it free of copyright, which I don't see here. Any other concerns, I'll leave to Ponyo. In the meantime, hope that helps. Rodhull  andemu  23:02, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The always helpful Rodhullandemu has given you the same reply that I would have given you. The copyright concerns were the most immediate issues with the article, however it does have a ring of promotion to it and it lacks the independent sourcing that we would be able to use to confirm it meets notability criteria for inclusion. Note also that if you are closely affiliated with the Inniscarra Sailing and Kayaking Club, then it is a conflict of interest to create an article to promote it. --<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 23:17, 28 February 2011 (UTC)