User talk:Poomfang/Archive 1

This is the first archive to User talk:Kitch. It dates from Kitch's arrival to Wikipedia in December 11, 2004, to April 17, 2006.

Dance Dance Revolution individual mix titles
Hi, I started reverting the changes you reverted, but I think this could lead to some hostility if we keep reverting changes to the pages. I suggest we instead discuss it on Talk:Dance Dance Revolution. Thanks.

Redundant Gameplay info on DDR pages
Hey, I'm thinking that sometime in the future, we should compress the Gameplay sections of the individual DDR game articles. Basic gameplay that is universal to all DDR games can be merged into the Gameplay section of the main DDR article, and the individual games can instead focus on their specific differences and new features. Conversely, all the info on the main DDR article that relates to specific games can be moved to the correct articles. This would include the Notable songs section which seems out-of-place on the main page. I was also thinking of adding song lists for each mix as subpages (Dance Dance Revolution 2ndMIX/Song list). Let me know what you think. --Poiuytman 15:38, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. Only the scoring really changes from mix to mix (1st-4th, then 5th, then MAX, then MAX2/Extreme, Ultramix, Extreme US, and Ultramix 2. And I agree about the Notable song list.  In the main page, it's heavily MAX-weighted. --Kitch 16:25, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Re: DDR 5th Mix Song List
Whoops, I didn't realize you were following the default 5th Mix order. I changed it back. --Poiuytman 07:52, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Extra stages
Quick note: Japanese versions of DDR (arcade and home) all use the text "One More Extra Stage" after AAing Extra Stage, and then display the text "Extra Stage" (in white text instead of red) on the black screen after selecting the song.

Only the US PS2 (and perhaps Xbox?) versions use the name "Another Extra Stage", and I'm not sure what it displays after selecting the song.

Incidentally, there is a "Special Stage" graphic that has been found on the MAX/MAX2/EX game discs; this graphic is never used in the game. There are also several announcer files never used in DDR (such as "Press the 2 Player start button!"). --Poiuytman 18:19, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ahh, okay. I don't think "I won't forget you." has ever been used, either. As for Xbox, they don't even have an arcade mode, so they don't have extra stages. You just keep choosing songs and playing, and if you fail one, it just takes you back to the song select screen. --Kitch 19:28, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

DDR Solo Mixes
How about merging Solo Bass and 2000 into one page (Dance Dance Revolution Solo)? Other than the interface upgrade, there aren't really any other improvements between Bass and 2000. Solo 2000 even has all the songs from the previous game. As for Solo 4th and 4th+, they can be briefly mentioned on the page, as well as the 4th Mix page, since they are almost identical to the 4th Mix games other than 6-panel mode replacing Double mode.

I'll see if I can expand the Interface and Graphics section. There's a Solo 2000 in town, but I haven't played it in a while. I haven't personally played on a Solo Bass, so I've only seen the interface in screenshots. However, I do know that Solo Bass has a hardware bug which prevents three arrow panels from registering at the same time. This is problematic if, for example, one foot is standing on both Left and Up-Left, and tries to hit Down. This is fixed in the other Solo mixes, and a handful of songs even have four-panel jumps as their last step (L, R, UL and UR). --Poiuytman 11:11, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

An incomplete Dance Dance Revolution Solo article is now up. Also see Talk:Dance Dance Revolution Solo BASS MIX. --Poiuyt Man (talk)  20:56, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Finally got around to it. All the information from Solo BASS MIX and Solo 2000 has been merged into Dance Dance Revolution Solo (the articles are now redirects). There are several more game details I plan to include. Tell me what you think. --Poiuyt Man (talk)  00:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pop'N Music a kid's game?
I think not. It may have bright colors and big buttons, but it's often considered to be on par with the difficulty of Beatmania IIDX (if not harder). Check out this video. --Poiuytman 15:07, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Hey, I wasn't the one that said it was a kid's game. All I did to the article was put in a wrong-name-due-to-technical-limitations boilerplate (which somebody removed).  And I'm aware how difficult it is.  I've played it before.  But it is undoubtedly marketed toward kids.  --Kitch 17:29, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Err, I was talking about the description in the DDR Extreme song list. Nevermind. --Poiuytman 17:53, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Song list tables
Any criticisms of the song list revamp? I added the gridlines to make the difficulties easier to distinguish, since they're now compressed on the right side. And did I go too far renaming the section titles in DDR Extreme to the exact titles (including the Japanese Home Version text)? Maybe they should just be the common-usage names. --Poiuytman 17:53, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Also considering that the song-group titles in DDR Extreme directly conflict with the spelling and capitalization of certain games on Konami's websites. --Poiuytman 18:05, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I like it. Could you add the correct symbol forms for Sakura, Kakumei, Daikenkai, Aoi Shoudou and Love Love Sugar, please?  Or tell me how to do katakana in Wikipedia? (PS: I found the code for Sakura, but don't know the rest) --Kitch 19:58, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just found the Japanese symbols on the official Konami site, and copied them into the text editor. Wikipedia automatically converts them into code. --Poiuytman 23:13, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Supplementary mixes.
Do you think 2nd Mix Link Ver, 3rd Mix Plus, 4th Mix Plus should get their own song lists? I was just about to add the new Link Version songs to the 2nd Mix list, but I realized they also belong to the Normal mode and Hard mode sections. It also removes Trip Machine Luv Mix, so I don't know how to neatly incorporate that into the existing 2nd Mix list. --Poiuytman 19:23, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * That's the only one with that problem. 3rd Mix and 4th Mix just add songs in their plus versions.  Do what I did with 3rd Mix: Just note that Trip Machine Luv isn't in Link Ver. --Kitch 12:59, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

DYK
 Did you know has been updated and a fact from the article Florida Lottery, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at the section's talk page.

Vandalism of user pages
Vandalism is an annoyance, and an increasingly inevitable one, but our preferred response has been to revert and ignore -- virtually all vandals take one or two pot shots and move on. The protection of user pages has been discussed a few times, but we generally feel that it's better to use the nature of the wiki, the soft security approach, than to use harder security that just tempts the vandals to test the system. A user page is generally only protected if it's subjected to continuous disruptive attack, and even then the protection will probably be removed again in a few days or weeks.

I'm sorry that you were exposed to an image that may have been distasteful to you; it makes it harder to shrug it off and move on when the vandals work so hard to shock and offend. Please try to ignore their attempts to bait you, and we will continue to try to find solutions that don't cripple the openness that made this project possible. Best wishes, &mdash; Catherine\talk 18:02, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi. Please don't vandalize pages; also, please read Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. &mdash; Dan | Talk 01:54, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Image:BSA-logo.jpg
Hello. I am letting you know that this image is going to be placed on Images for Deletion. The reason I am doing that is that this image was replaced by Image:BSA_Color_Logo.png. Once I replaced your image with the new one, it became an orphan, since it was only used on the Boy Scouts of America article. If you have any questions or comments, come see me. Thank you. Zscout370 (talk) 18:19, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Trey Stone and Davenbelle
Hi! Trey Stone has Requested Arbitration with me:


 * Requests for arbitration/Trey Stone and Davenbelle
 * Requests for arbitration/Trey Stone and Davenbelle/Evidence

You are mentioned in evidence that I have presented and I'm bringing this to your attention. Comments and evidence of your own are welcome.

Sincerely, Davenbelle 01:11, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

PlayStation abbreviation
According to the PlayStation article, PSone is the name of the re-released smaller version of the console. The older version is abbreviated PS1 or PSOne. I say we just use "PlayStation" in the DDR articles and avoid the acronyms. --Poiuyt Man talk  20:16, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I've never ever seen PS1 used in connection with the old machine, officially or not. Before PS2, it was always abbreviated to PSX, for its pre-naming codename.  It was redesigned right as PS2 was released, and I've only seen PSone used as its abbreviation. --Kitch 13:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)


 * That's funny, I've only seen it as PS1. "PS1 PlayStation" gets 20,300,000 hits on Google, while "PSone PlayStation" only gets 1,180,000. As I said before, it's not relevant, since it's not the job of a DDR article to explain the acronyms of the PlayStation. Especially when the link to PlayStation is right there.


 * "for the Sony PlayStation (or PSone) video game console" -> "for the Sony PlayStation video game console". --Poiuyt Man talk  19:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)


 * According to the PlayStation article, the official abbreviation for the PlayStation is PS1 or PSone (I tend to use PS1 for the original or both, PSone for the redesign.) PSX would refer to the PSX, a luxury PS2/PVR released only in Japan. --Wulf 19:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Switched Almost/Boo on US Mix?
Hey, I know I've seen one of the US mixes (I believe either DDRMAX or DDRMAX2) that has Almost and Boo switched. That is, when compared to the Japanese versions, instead of Boo=Almost, Miss=Boo, it is switched to Boo=Boo, Miss=Almost. Would you happen to know which mix I'm talking about? --Poiuyt Man talk  12:57, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I dunno. Then again, I never played Konamix.  That might be the one, but I've never played it, so I didn't think they'd switch them in that one. --Kitch 12:59, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

GFDL
Certainly I can explain how gfdl applies to your that digitization of your picture (I assume you mean the anthropomorphic dog). All eligible contributions to Wikipedia must licensed under the GFDL. There is a clear copyright notice on the picture which indicates that you own copyright to it. I assume you uploaded this with good faith and it wasn't uploaded in error. So it is GFDL.

This is how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia isn't a free web provider. The price of contributing is that those contributions are released under gfdl. If you prefer we can switch the tag to &#123;&#123;nonfreedelete&#125;&#125; and delete the image, which would be a shame. But we will not store the image indefinitely without a gfdl release.

So what do you say. Do you want to keep the image. I have changed the tag back to &#123;&#123;copyrighted&#125;&#125; for now. But if you want to save the image from deletion you will have to use gfdl.

Zeimusu | (Talk page) 00:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There she is!!
Is there actually anything that makes this an extraordinarily notable flash animation? Snowspinner 21:14, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)


 * The fact that both are at the top of the Newgrounds Flash Portal all-time rankings, both have over 900,000 views on the website, and their creating website SamBakZa has an undisputed article here. --Kitch 21:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image:John-t-walton.jpg
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The This page sucks and is in need of attention pseudo tag
Dang if my guffaws didn't scare the cats when I saw that. I felt compelled to borrow it for my user page, it's very funny. Please feel free to edit it off though if you object to my theft of it for use on my page too, it is your idea (and it's a very good one!) - Flawiki 02:36, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Mercury move
I have just reverted your page move of Mercury (planet) to Mercury, and related changes. A single topic only receives the primary disambiguation (ie. gets its own page name without (planet), (element) etc.) when it is the major dominant use of that name. Mercury the planet shares its name with the element and many others, meaning that no specific meanings gets the primary name. In the future major moves like this should be suggested and discussed on the relevant talk page before carrying them out. -- Chuq 09:31, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Isetta
I moved the paragraph from Isetta 600 to Misc. There was a similer paragraph already there, but yours is more informative. Regards Oldfarm 20:31, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

BG James
Hello. I requested that the article on BG James be moved from Brian James to allow for disambiguation. I had originally requested that the page be moved to B.G. James, but I was informed that this was not in line with the wikipedia naming conventions, and that the title should be B. G. James (with a space). However, there was already an article at B. G. James, so I changed my request to BG James (as this is how TNA spells his name, ). I rolled back your edit as cut-and-paste moves are not allowed, as they eliminate the page history. You could, however, request that the page be moved to B.G. James irregardless of naming conventions. McPhail 19:34, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

TNA pay-per-views
Hello. Given that your recaps of the TNA pay-per-view are normally very comprehensive, I thought maybe we should split recurring pay-per-views, e.g. TNA Turning Point would become TNA Turning Point 2004 and TNA Turning Point 2005 rather than a single article with the different years within it. What do you think? McPhail 12:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


 * OK, no hurry. McPhail 12:57, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Page moves
Please move pages using the move function rather than cutting-and-pasting, as this destroys the edit history. Thanks. McPhail 23:25, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Pro Wrestling Wikiproject
Hello Kitch, Im SWD316. I would like to welcome you to the Professional wrestling WikiProject. I saw you make great edits to professional wrestling articles and we would love for you to join. Just add you name to the list of members and your in! Hope you join!
 * S W D 3 1 6 talk to me 21:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject:Florida
Have you considered joining up? Would love to have ya.  &#08492;  astique &#09660;  par &#08467; er  &#09829;  voir  &#09809;  (aka FtLaudWolf) 21:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Arbcom candidate userbox
Greetings. I've made a new userbox for arbcom candidates to show on their userpages so that visiters will know they're running.
 * User arbcom nom

If you'd like to place it on your userpage, feel free. Regards, – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 02:22, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration committee elections
Hi, you are currently standing in the Arbitration Committee elections.

If you aren't already aware, you are only attracting a vote of under 20% support to 80% oppose. This is mostly due to perceptions of a lack of experience.

Statistically, your vote is unlikely to rise above a 70-80% supermajority threshold required for election.

Therefore, it would be helpful if you would withdraw your candidacy from the election. This way there will be less candidates for others to read through before deciding their votes. The best place to announce such a decision would be on your candidate statement on the vote page, or on WP:AN/I, IF you choose to withdraw.

Better luck for the future. --Victim of signature fascism | help remove biblecruft 19:11, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

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WikiFur box on furry fandom
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As such I have created a modified version in the See also section instead. I think this is more likely to stay around. Thanks for taking the time to make the original version. :-) GreenReaper 23:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

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Featured Image Candidate of Jupiter was successful

 * Congrats! Thanks for the nominating such an outstanding image. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 19:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Anthony Rapp
Thanks for fixing that; you were able to come with the wording I couldn't think of. Ckessler 07:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

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