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December 2021
Hello, I'm Paper9oll. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Nancy (singer), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page.    —  Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  05:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

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Paper9oll i am with the company, it's the person who pays me to edit, i am only asked out that to be edit, it is been lacking information as they have said, it's better if you're the ones who will put it, since i am not really into this, she has a little notability so that's why we are asked to put it for her, some of them are misleading this is the reason why we are called, and not my wish. @Popicks 11:07 PM 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll if the edits cannot take place then there would no be an accurate information, as i have said before, there is no available much of the resources because she needs to have more notability @Popicks 11:10 PM 1 December 2021 (UTC)

You forgot to add your employer's name in your disclosure :P. Firestar464 (talk) 01:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Firestar464 believe me or not, i'm telling truth and yes i work with her @Popicks
 * Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, you MUST add her name to your disclosure. It is required. Firestar464 (talk) 01:10, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Firestar464 give me the link @Popicks 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Here is the link to your user page: User:Popicks. Currently, your user page says you have been paid by "INSERT NAME OF EMPLOYER HERE" -- that part should be replaced with the name of your employer. - Whisperjanes (talk) 21:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Example
You wrote "Nancy was born to a korean mother Lee Myeong-Ju a housewife and a gardener and to an irish american fahter Richard Jowel McDonie a retired US military veteran and a college professor in Gachon University." All of this may be true, but it was reverted because you did not provide a reliable source reference. Biographies of living people have a strict referencing policy. And that should have been "Nancy was born to a Korean mother Lee Myeong-Ju, a housewife and a gardener, and to an Irish-American father Richard Jowel McDonie, a retired US military veteran and a college professor at Gachon University." David notMD (talk) 16:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

(talk) Yes, i did, i did put that, because that's the information and the ones that is true in which came from herself directly i am only assisting her on her biography, indeed it might be strict here according to your wikipedia rules, but herself does not really require it, she is actually seeing the page recently, she is seeing this conversation right now. @Popicks 2:34 2 December 2021 (UTC)

David notMD banning me from wikipedia will not help the article and there is no one who is willing to put it, you cannot base the edits of other users because they're mostly KPOP fans from fandom and they are just transferring the information from another innaccurate media source, i am just 10 minute walk away from the company she is working and i live in seoul city and my english might not be that accurate because i still use google translate in some words, i am korean and i don't speak english at all, sometimes i can have difficulty talking with foreigners but i will try my best communicate, i had never been outside of my country yet, i rarely visit english language installed websites, in south korea everything is in korean we don't have much that opportunity to learn and speak english and i only learn english by books based upon translations from my native language me and nancy are talking regarding her wikipedia information but we only talk in korean language, thanks @Popicks 2:34 2 December 2021 (UTC)

David notMD I am an assistant working in her KPOP dance company i am assigned to give internet information for KPOP stars, nancy and i talk personally and i work with her daily, nancy is not one who's giving me a paycheck, me and her work in the same company and we are both employees @Popicks 3:23 2 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Popicks, I'll try to re-explain what David has already said above:
 * We understand that you know Nancy personally. Regardless - Do you have a source for the information you wrote that is published? The source can be a newspaper article, website page, or other printed source - the source can even be in Korean, if that is easier. Right now, you are telling me you heard this information from the person herself. But even if that is true, Wikipedia doesn't report on information said out loud unless someone also published that information somewhere else. You can read more about this policy at WP:Verifiability. The best thing for us would be if you give a URL link to a news article (or other source) that contains the information you said above. There are also other sources that are considered "reliable" outside of news sources, but I think a news source is the easiest type to use. Either way, you should make sure that, even if the source is published, that the source is also considered "reliable" by Wikipedia standards. You can read more about reliable sources here: WP:Reliable sources. Let me know if this makes sense, or if you need more explanation. - Whisperjanes (talk) 19:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Early on, Wikipedia had a bad period when it was realized that people lied about themselves in articles - their age, their acomplishments, deleting content that was true but unflattering - so Wikipedia shifted to a strict verification policy. For example, what a person says about themselves in a published interview is not considered to be verification. Same for press releases. David notMD (talk) 20:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I didn't know about the part that so many users are lying about the information they are giving, i am totally unaware of this since that i do not often make visit in a non korean website places like this one, the company i am working for assigned me to assist her i am also working as an informant to her parents whenever she goes around with her tour concerts worldwide, i inform them her status, i am not doing any lies in my life we koreans are not doing that in our own website news and vlogs where we lie about the information regarding someone or a happened event we are always genuine with our contents and we treat our websites and community like that because we treat our things like home like our country, we treat it as a village as you can see we are safe in south korea and we didn't had high crimes like robbery or shooting or even kidnapping although sometimes it happens but very rare, lying is not common in south korea it is almost non existent in our society (Popicks) 7:11 2 December 2021(UTC) Popicks (talk) 22:12, 1 December 2021 (UTC)


 * A fellow editor here. Just to clarify:  I am sure that what you say about Korean society is true, and that lying is very rare there.


 * As David notMD said above, Wikipedia requires facts to have published references (as the WP:Verifiability link says, mentioned above). This means, theoretically, that any reader could look at the sources and verify the information.  That is a core principle of the English wikipedia and it is why a person's knowledge is not an accepted source here. This applies to all articles here.  Also see WP:VNT (which is named "Verifiabilty, not truth").  Thanks.  73.127.147.187 (talk) 11:17, 29 December 2021 (UTC)