User talk:PopularOutcast/Archive 2019

Gainesville, Florida
The last sentence that I added states that Gaivesville is a college town. This is most certainly true, with the school UF having over 56,000 students and Santa Fe College having over 20,000, and UF has 27,000 employees. Even wikipedia's own article on list of college towns states that Gainesville is one of them. It is important to know that much of Gainesville revolves around UF. BobRoberts14 (talk) 02:59, 11 June 2019 (UTC)BobRoberts14

Gainesville, Florida
Wasn't pleased to see that the little bit I thought we had settled on was undone by the user again. I've punted this to WP:AN/3. I didn't look at what you and the user were doing later so I don't know if there is anything there that should be added to the report. Meters (talk) 01:18, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , So I tried to do ANI but I had never done it before so I guess I did it wrong or at the wrong place. I will take a look at the report. PopularOutcasttalk2me! 01:19, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , Okay, I see that I was at fault for some of this. I felt that the source that you provided was opinion rather than fact and I reworded it. The other person did not like my rewording and changed it back to what was contentious. I tried to meet in the middle but s/he did not like it. Nonetheless, it's just been a lot of editing based on what this persons feels is correct about Gainesville. Someone else, not involved, came by and improved the article. Again, this person changed wording back to what they felt was best. I really didn't know what to do about it and tried to do an ANI but did so incorrectly. Every effort at civility has been met with outlandish claims and finger pointing. I was going to contact you about helping but figured you might want to wash your hands of it. I do appreciate that you did a correct AN/3 report. I hope the new editor is able to work with us and improve the article. PopularOutcasttalk2me! 01:33, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no issue at all with you challenging he source I added. It was a weak source and I knew it. It is mentioned elsewhere on Wikipedia as a College town, and I was just trying to find a quick compromise for  an editor who just wasn't getting it. There's no way the editor should have reverted to a stronger claim after you raised the discussion about the source. There are lots of sources that call Gainesville a college town. The Orlando Sentinel reported on a study of college towns https://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/os-gainesville-ranked-best-college-town-florida-post.html or the Washington Post inan articel about serial killings there https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1990/08/29/serial-killings-of-five-students-terrorize-florida-college-town/643d21d6-200e-40ec-865d-86e3019fa78c/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.13a1c286f781, for example. What we would really like is a source that defines the term and specifies that Gainesville fits the term, but I've done too much editing to the article for now.. I'll let things settle. Meters (talk) 02:16, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I am also going to let it sit for now. An editor I have met IRL at a couple of Wikipediathons has agreed to take a look at it when he has time. I will judiciously not edit portions that are causing problems. And, yes, it's likely fine to call Gainesville a college town but I took exception to the original source as well as including Santa Fe in on that; I just feel the term is vague. It doesn't really matter as long as it's not SYNTH or OR. Thanks again for your time. PopularOutcasttalk2me! 02:52, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It's fine, I will find sources describing Gainesville as a college town, since anyone who lives there knows that it is. I'll also prove that Santa Fe is considered to be in Gainesville, since although it is less than a mile outside city limits, it's still considered in Gainesville, since its campus stretches into Gainesville and it has 22,000 students, many of whom live in Gainesville. You both need to realize that not everything needs to be sourced. Saying that a city with 100,000 people working or students at UF, and 22,000 students at santa fe, is a college town needs no source. Same goes with stating that Santa Fe is in Gainesville. But if you two insist that I include citations, I will definitely do so. I'll also work on other parts of the article and make sure to include citations to research. BobRoberts14 (talk) 06:08, 12 June 2019 (UTC)BobRoberts14
 * You keep repeating yourself. Repetition does not make it true. You seem to not understand how things work here. You can make any assertion that you like. Other editors can come by and question your assertion by deleting information without references. When an editor (you or others) puts the information back in with references, the references can be called into question. It really does not matter what you know and it isn't just us two that insist that you include citations. Wikipedia insists that you include citations. This has all been a colossal waste of time because you are not adding any new information to the argument. You just keep restating what you think you know. This is not how any of this works. Take a step back and read the getting started links that are on your talk page. Then come back and let's make the article better. PopularOutcasttalk2me! 15:07, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * When I was originally reverting edits, I didn't know what I was doing. Now I realize that you need consensus and sources to back up your claims. So I am sorry for any trouble I have been causing. But still. arguing that Santa Fe isn't in Gainesville does not help anyone. BobRoberts14 (talk) 19:24, 12 June 2019 (UTC)BobRoberts14
 * Thanks Meters and Cygnis insignis. I missed the nastiness while I was out and about. I even got lunch comped at my favorite place because I picked up some slack and wiped down tables while they were super busy. One of the best things about the restaurant is that you can see the Hipp from it. That's such a pretty building. That was after taking a sewing class at the library (another gorgeous building). Alachua County Library District Headquarters (NW corner).JPG
 * BobRoberts14, we are all volunteers who try to make Wikipedia the best we can with the skills we have. I hope that we can work together in the future to make the Gainesville article the best it can be. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 21:59, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, I didn't realize that you actually live in Gainesville (or in Alachua County), since I assumed someone who lived here would know that it is a college town, and that Santa Fe is a big school. Still though, I guess Santa Fe is probably mostly comprised of people who just live in the surrounding area, and have since they were born, with it most likely not having many people who moved to Gainesville just to attend Santa Fe. UF, on the other hand, has many people who move to Gainesville just to attend it. So I agree that Santa Fe doesn't really help make Gainesville a college town. BobRoberts14 (talk) 00:41, 13 June 2019 (UTC)BobRoberts14
 * I get that you didn't know that but it doesn't really matter where I live and that is why I didn't bring it up. All that matters is what I can provide references for and I think that was the crux of our conflict. It was never about a personal disagreement. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 00:48, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * A very interesting building in the photo, sympathetically restored and extended from what I could glean. There are strong resemblances to a local period I like reading about, which rather oddly (but delightfully) contains Spanish architectural statements. cygnis insignis 10:13, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , oooh if you are interested in that style, you might like to take a Google Street walk around Coral Gables, Florida. The have an architectural board that requires that edifices of buildings keep a certain style. It's definitely one of the rich areas of Miami. I always loved looking at the houses when I had to drive through there. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 14:32, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to sit down with a fellow fan and take that tour, cheers for the recommendation. cygnis insignis 14:54, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to sit down with a fellow fan and take that tour, cheers for the recommendation. cygnis insignis 14:54, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

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July 2019 GOCE drive bling
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I removed your copyvio tag
Hi PopularOutcast,

Just wanted to let you know that I removed the tag you placed here as the alleged source page seems to be offline now and was apparently not successfully recorded by Internet Archive. As you may have realised at the time, "close in wording" isn't necessarily a reason for removal, or I'm sure you would have done the necessary rather than place a tag. Not sure there's anything left to do, but thought it courteous to drop you a line in case you wanted to add any further detail.

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Samsara 18:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Credit
I think to bother you sometimes, but try to imagine what an observant copy-editor would point out instead. You continue to be helpful without lifting a finger. ~ cygnis insignis 16:55, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , LOL! Thanks! I would be happy to look at what you are working on if you need another eye. I haven't been doing very much on here lately ... learned to crochet in early July and am currently enthralled with that. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 16:59, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * So jealous, and why should I be, I could learn crocheting in a snap! I forget we are both interested in … what? community arts? is that a good term for it :-} ~ cygnis insignis 17:05, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , Hobbies? Crafts? I didn't realize you were interested. I've done a bunch of stuff this summer -- finger knitting, sewing, ink stamping, envelope making -- but crochet really won me over. I still stamp and envelope-make since I have numerous pen pals but I am spending an inordinate amount of time crocheting. Basically adult summer camp. :D Last few days my editing has been mostly of things I am watching on TV as I crochet (I look up the thing to learn more and then find some problems). I also decided to learn all the world countries and their capitals. What have you been up to? <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 17:14, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The season has just changed here, its like those segues in cartoons the way it drops. There will be orchids soon, which will give me some insight into the subsoil ecology in the local area; all this is through a dark glass and I can only guess at what is going one here. There is a self-imposed barrier to those who can teach more about knotting and spinning, because I am reluctant to intrude where they are doing and listening in a stitching circle. I would enjoy moving to pen-to-paper correspondence, as well as typing into light. Cheers for the chat ~ cygnis insignis 17:40, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , My adult summer camp was facilitated through my local library. I also paid for a short course through our adult community education to learn crochet. Teacher was not good but it got me going and then I used library resources and YouTube to learn more. I would not do well in a stitching circle scenario. If you like, email me your contact info and I will snail mail you a letter in the coming weeks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/PopularOutcast). <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 17:51, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * it is getting started that I need to be shown, I failed knots after trying to follow the sketchy diagrams. And cool, will do. ~ cygnis insignis 17:59, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * , woot! Thanks. I am excited to go through the process so that I can help with the project in the future. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 16:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , hi! I've wrapped up my first runthrough of the GA review. Please take a look and respond as needed. :) Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 16:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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Archive fixes
Hi P.O., just a note to say thank you for fixing the mistakes in the GOCE Request archives; it's important to have an accurate record so your effort is very much appreciated. I'd never have noticed something like that! :) Cheers,  Baffle gab1978  22:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , it was my pleasure. If there's anything more I can do, don't hesitate to ask. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 23:17, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks for asking btw; I've just done more fixes in the table. If you notice any oddities like incorrect (custom) usernames, misspellings, etc, a fix would be much appreciated. I think I got them all, but there are more requests to archive. There's a copy in my sandbox if you'd like to play around. :) Thanks again, cheers,  Baffle gab1978  00:39, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , you found the ones that I saw. I did just catch User:AdrianGamer without the appropriate parameter. When pulled into a spreadsheet it takes that as a different requester.
 * The one thing that I was sure about was the section vs. section c/e in the purpose. Should they all be the same? Two say section and one says section c/e. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 00:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Good catch, yes we should standardise it. "Section" seems like a natural choice since we know it's a c/e request; but either is okay. Thanks forthe AdrianGamer fix; may I ask why you've changed "Feminist" to "feminist" and "Épine" to "épine" ? We normally record the editor's actual account name rather than their preferred version or custom sig., which can change. I actually changed those entries a few hours ago. Cheers,  Baffle gab1978  02:17, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , ummmm. I didn't although I see in the history that it says that I did. That's really weird. I didn't even search for those so not sure how I would have inadvertently made the change. I am a little freaked out right now to be honest. They aren't even next to each other. Nor does it look like it might have been a badly fixed edit conflict. Weird. Sorry, I will correct and standardize to "section". <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 02:23, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. I must have had a previous version of the page open and didn't realize it. Although I think it still should have told me there was an edit conflict. Weird. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 02:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , also it seems that Sasuke Uchiha was also a section copyedit but for FAC. Not sure if the purpose should be section or FAC. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 02:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem P.O.; you may have inadvertently reverted my changes, maybe you had the page open before I edited. Don't worry; odd stuff happens on WP from time to time. Regarding Sasuke Uchiha, I think the FAC overrides 'section'; maybe "FAC (section)" would do? I've always ignored the 'section' part and recorded as normal.There's no need to ping me btw; I'm watching this page and I've disabled pings, so I don't see them! Cheers,  Baffle gab1978  02:43, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, no ping. I have the reply script on so it does it automatically. I will try to remember.
 * I don't have an issue with either of the choices—FAC section or FAC. It really depends on what the Guild is trying to count. If the point is to count how many times help is offered to people who are trying to get their work featured, then FAC (or appropriate purpose) is fine. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 02:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah right, I never knew there was a script for replying... I'm a Javascript avoider!:D I think that as long as we can interpret the table it's fine, and if not it'll get corrected eventually. We do analyze the stats at year's end (I've been readying the Annual Report) and see what's been requested and the reasons. I'm going offline in a bit, take care and thanks for discussing. :) Cheers,  Baffle gab1978  03:08, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't have an issue with either of the choices—FAC section or FAC. It really depends on what the Guild is trying to count. If the point is to count how many times help is offered to people who are trying to get their work featured, then FAC (or appropriate purpose) is fine. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 02:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah right, I never knew there was a script for replying... I'm a Javascript avoider!:D I think that as long as we can interpret the table it's fine, and if not it'll get corrected eventually. We do analyze the stats at year's end (I've been readying the Annual Report) and see what's been requested and the reasons. I'm going offline in a bit, take care and thanks for discussing. :) Cheers,  Baffle gab1978  03:08, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy Wikipedia Day!
I'm in New York City, but I know there is a great group in Gainesville, and have been assisting remotely with their event a bit. If you do happen to free to get there at like 6pm, I'm sure they will save you a slice of wikicake :)--Pharos (talk) 17:17, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , lol, thanks! <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 17:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes we will ^_^. If enough people show up, we might also get food or drinks afterwards — just let us know when you can make it and we’ll let you know what’s still going on! — Gaurav (talk) 18:52, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , cool beans. I was hoping to see my UPS driver as I was headed back from the gym but he wasn't around. We'll see what I can do. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 19:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Wish
Hello. Help improve and copy edit for article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you. Trinhthisau (talk) 22:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hope you help. Trinhthisau (talk) 22:58, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sock of Haiyenslna; see SPI.  Baffle gab1978  23:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

GOCE 2018 Annual Report
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Speedy deletion declined: Bright Ideas Trust
Hello PopularOutcast. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Bright Ideas Trust, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Having been founded by a notable person indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI, WP:CCSI). Thank you. So Why  11:27, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , I apologize. I didn't realize that winning a reality show was considered notable. That was not meant with any snark. I was just ignorant to that until now. Thank you for your speedy reply. :D <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 20:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Whether he is notable for that or despite that is not the point. Point is, he has an article, so any notability problems with subjects related to him can (and usually should) be solved via WP:ATD, e.g. redirecting or merging to his article. Regards So  Why  21:33, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , Yup, yup, I wasn't arguing. <b style="color:#008080">Popular</b><b style="color:#8A2BE2">Outcast</b>talk2me! 21:41, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Didn't assume you were, just thought I try to explain my thinking further. Always happy to help after all. Regards  So  Why  08:01, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Art+Feminism editathon in Gainesville this Saturday, March 16, 2019
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