User talk:Portayla



Westminster Abbey still retains Richard's version. The royal arms were not standardised until the Tudors reigned, but it is clear that the royal patron St Edward the Confessor was very important to the House of Plantagenet, even if the Tudors didn't venerate him. You are in the wrong!

Opinionated lies wont get you anywhere! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.15.230 (talk) 23:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)