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--Postaire (talk) 10:01, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, I can’t change the text of this file because i have no access to the « edit » function but only to « edit source ». What can I do? Thanks and best regards,--Postaire (talk) 10:01, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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advice
I have been working here for 12 years primarily screening new articles, especially biographies of scientists. I think I can help you avoid some of the difficulties yo have unfortunately been running into from improper reviewing. .

In starting an article, it is in practice a good idea to add a reference at the very first edit. It should be enough if you add them quickly, but the way articles are reviewed here, they are often seen first by reviewers who make no allowances for the incomplete state, even if it is just the next minute after starting. (They are not following Deletion Policy correctly if they immediately list it for deletion, but they do it anyway, & I have found that if they are not a beginner but set in their ways, there's no likelihood of trying to get them to do otherwise). And then there are some administrators here who simply delete everything listed for speedy deletion without evaluating it. (They are not properly following deletion Policy either, but there's usually no point in trying to tell them). The only safe thing to do is to have at least one reference at hand that proves the main point of notability, and add it as part of the first edit. It's not supposed to be that way, and I and the great majority of admins will stop every such deletion we are aware of, or undelete it if it has been wrongly deleted, but it's better not to have that problem.

In translating articles, it is absolutely essential that you use an edit summary at the very first edit saying what you are translating from. (This should then be expanded into more detail as explained at WP:COPYWITHIN). Most sensible reviewers and admins will simply add the statement if the article is listed for deletion as a copyvio, but there are a few who are over-literal. It's essentially hopeless to explain to them why it is not good practice to do that.

In translating articles from the frWP and deWP, there is generally a problem with references, since they do it differently. Ultimately, each reference will need to be rewritten according to our practice, and some way found for dealing with the general references they use in situations where we would use specific references. It is sometimes a good idea to simply copy paste the reference section from the page as it appears, and clean it up later.

Please keep up the good work. I do not unfortunately have time to check each article as you write it to make sure it isn't deleted, but if you do run into difficulties, please notify me on my talk page and I will try to deal with it.I know how to do it without getting into a confrontation.  DGG ( talk ) 04:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Also, please note our manner of organizing a page. Look at the way I reorganized Corval. We put the awards at the end.  DGG ( talk ) 05:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Jean-François Bach - translation?
Hey! Thanks for creating Jean-François Bach, but I just wanted to ask if it is a translation of the French article of the same name? If so (just like has been said in the message above) you must state this at the article - please see the information on this at the following pages: Translation; WP:TFOLWP. In the future, you may find using the Content Translation tool useful, as this automatically attributes the translation. Si vous avez besoin d'un traduction - ou vous voudriez parler en français, n'hésitez pas de m'envoyer un message ici (if you need a translation - or you would like to talk in French, don't hesitate to send me a message here). Merci!  Seagull123  Φ  17:24, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour seagull123, la notice Wikipédia en anglais de Jean-François Bach est bien une traduction de sa fiche française. Je n'ai pas bien compris ce que je dois faire pour le signifier. Pouvez vous m'aider ? Cordialement,--Postaire (talk) 08:04, 24 July 2019 (UTC) --Postaire (talk) 08:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

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Hi. I changed the mistakes. Thanks. Best regards--Postaire (talk) 14:34, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

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Alert!
It is absolutely required that when you translate a page from another Wikipedia into the English Wikipedia, that you indicate this, preferably both on the article itself, usually after the references section, and in the edit summary. Preferably, this should indicate not just the article title, but also specific vesion ID of the original, so that it is perfectly clear just what has been used. You asked above how to do it. Just add the text, along with the link.

This is not optional. At enWP, it is considered a copyright violation, and pages lacking this are very likely to be deleted unless someone adds the attribution. As a reviewing administrator,  I will do it when I see it, but I cannot and do not see everything.

Please also make the interwiki link, using the "Add link" tool in the bottom of the right hand margin after the page is created. Otherwise, someone else will have to do it for you. This is your responsibility.

(And, as I pointed out above, you need to change links to our style. You need to at least make the link to the enWP articles for the French Academy of Sciences and other institutions. You also need to give dates of his degrees ., and we do not accept vague sentences like "Called to teach in various places, including Europe, the United States, Latin America and China,"  Give the permanent positions specifically, andi ncate those that are visiting.

The copyright matter in particular is considered quite serious here, and '''I must ask you for your assurances that you will do this for all articles that you translate. ' DGG''' ( talk ) 01:20, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

You seem to have taken absolutely no notice of the advice you have been given. When you translate text from a foreign language Wikipedia you must provide attribution to the original authors in your edit summary or on the page, and add a translation tag to the talk page, as I have done for Pierre Encrenaz. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:04, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please add translation templates to the talk pages of the other articles you have created by translation. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:04, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Soyez plus précis svp quand vous écrivez "Please add translation templates to the talk pages of the other articles you have created by translation". Que dois je faire exactement. Je ne comprends pas. Merci--Postaire (talk) 08:05, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is an example of one I added myself. . You can add this template to the talk page of articles you translate, just changing "François Forget" to the title of the article you have translated. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:06, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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Sandra Lavorel moved to draftspace
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You have, once again, failed to credit the source, and to conform to the English wiki's standards for biographies. See Template:Biography for a model. Cabayi (talk) 10:48, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Robert Guillaumont moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Robert Guillaumont, ... You know what's wrong. You haven't credited the French original which deprives the french contributors of the credit they deserve for their work. You haven't converted any of the French templates to their English equivalents (Lien web -> Cite web). You've left French style quotes « » in the article instead of using English style quotes "". References come after punctuation. There's no References section. The other article I moved to draft had few inline citations WP:INCITE, and put every mention of the subject's name into bold. Please, please, please start with Drafts and make them good before moving them to mainspace. Even better, use the Articles for creation process. Cabayi (talk) 11:04, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

If you continue to create article on enwiki using translations from the French wiki without giving credit to the French original you are likely to be blocked. The French contributors are entitled to credit for their work. You are stealing their effort. There is far more difference between the French wiki and the English wiki than just the language. It would be far better if you created your translations in Draft, got some help from the relevant projects to bring the draft up to standard, and used the Articles for Creation process. I hope that helps.
 * Excuse the Google translation...

Si vous continuez à créer un article sur enwiki en utilisant des traductions du wiki français sans accorder de crédit à l'original français, vous risquez d'être bloqué. Les contributeurs français ont droit à un crédit pour leur travail. Vous volez leur effort. Il y a beaucoup plus de différence entre le wiki français et le wiki anglais que juste la langue. Il serait préférable que vous créiez vos traductions dans Draft, que vous obteniez de l'aide des projets concernés pour mettre le projet à niveau et que vous utilisiez le processus Articles pour la création. J'espère que ça aide. Cabayi (talk) 11:17, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I expected to see credit given in your initial edit summary on [ the page's history], not on the talk page. My mistake, you have done what was required.
 * Je m'attendais à voir un crédit donné dans votre résumé de modification initial sur l'historique de la page, pas sur la page de discussion. Mon erreur, vous avez fait ce qui était nécessaire. Cabayi (talk) 11:41, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour, Pouvez vous restituer la fiche anglaise de Robert Guillaumont ? Hello, Can you restore Robert Guillaumont's English file? Thanks --Postaire (talk) 11:48, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


 * It hasn't been deleted, just moved - Draft:Robert Guillaumont. Cabayi (talk) 12:18, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Pourquoi le laisser en draft ? Il est fini et c'est moi qui avait rédigé la version française. Why leave it in draft? It is finished and I was the one who wrote the French version. Merci. Thanks --Postaire (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Same problem again with Eva Pebay-Peyroula. I have enough French to understand the fr.wp article, but I'm going to put you straight about this: if you can't translate French Wikipedia articles into idiomatic English, they are all going to be draft-ified. Dude, if you keep this up, you are gonna find your ass blocked. And this doesn't mean restrictions on your donkey. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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Jean-Marc Egly moved to draftspace
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It is a translation of the french article.

It is a translation of the french article.

Edgardo D. Carosella moved to draftspace
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Advice
The English WP is not the same as the French WP. This applies especially to biographies of living people, where we have a rule that all information must be referenced. For bios of scientists, such as you have been doing, this means more specifically: In addition, it is our practice that we do not include all the papers of an individual. We do include all their published books. But we include only the most important papers, which is normally shown   by the papers having the highest citations, usually by Google, though Scopus or WebofScience is also fine. We usually include 3 to 5 papers. There can sometimes be occasion to cite others in the discussions of their work.  DGG ( talk ) 23:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) the basic plain  facts of the persons life --birth, education, spositions held -- can be taken from their official CV, but this needs to be specifically cited as a reference.
 * 2) The books and papers they have written can be sourced by their publication information. For books, this can be done explicitly by giving the ISBN. For journal articles, it's done by giving the link to the online version.
 * 3) Awards can if necessary also be sourced to the CV, but if at all possible they should be referenced by a third-party source. This is usually possible, because announcements of awards are generally published.
 * 4) Everything else must have a third-party independent reliable source. This especially applies to judgments of quality or importance or significance of their work.
 * 5) Material that can not be sourced must be removed.

Jean-Didier Vincent moved to draftspace
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It is a translation of the french article.

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Wikipedia Google book cite
Hi This may be of help: All you do is plug in a google book cite url, select the today button and it will create a proper ref from a google book URL. Hope that helps.  scope_creep Talk  10:04, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
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Bernard Dujon
I did considerable cleanup of this article, including fixing the nonidiomatic translations of various phrases and positions. You really should be able to do this yourself. There are two key items of information miswisng: is he currently retired--what sort of emeritus position does he now have; and, what is the title and publisher of his popular science book.  DGG ( talk ) 10:20, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Jean-François Bach


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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jean-Didier Vincent has been accepted
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Deletion discussion about Jean-Pierre Grünfeld
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